Any way to disable need for password when dialing voicemail fromphone

I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
from my phone.
Is there a way to set this up?
Thanks

On Dec 27, 3:37 am, techman41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
> from my phone.
> Is there a way to set this up?
> Thanks

can program your password altogether with *86 into contacts.
Will need to use pauses, thou - see your phone manual.

gk <gk.latv@excite.com> wrote in news:9e82e117-6218-4292-acff-
667f5afa26b1@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 27, 3:37 am, techman41...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
>> from my phone.
>> Is there a way to set this up?
>> Thanks
>
> can program your password altogether with *86 into contacts.
> Will need to use pauses, thou - see your phone manual.
>

I have Motorola phones, here. To call voicemail automatically, including
with voice, I made an entry in the regular phone book called
"BitchBox"...(c;

For the number, I entered my own SELLphone number, some pauses, the
passcode numbers. The entire call is automated. Just press the
voicedial button on the headset and say:
"Call Bitchbox"
It dials its own number, waits for 3 pause periods for Alltel's voicemail
greeting to ask for the password, then touchtones in my passcode numbers.

555-555-5555ppp87654321pp1
(number) passcode (1 command)

The extra pp1 on the end is because on Alltel the voice tells you to dial
1 to hear your messages.

Play around with how many p (pauses) it takes to do it in a minimal
length of time and you'll have automated the whole process.

Of course, if someone steals your phone, HE has the passcode to your
voicemail, too....if that matters.

Larry
--
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My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST), techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
>I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
>from my phone.
>Is there a way to set this up?

My phone lets me change the voicemail number so I added the password:
*86 (pause) (pause) (password)

Bob Scheurle wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST), techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
>>from my phone.
>> Is there a way to set this up?
>
> My phone lets me change the voicemail number so I added the password:
> *86 (pause) (pause) (password)
>

I have found that the pauses are no longer required. It's been at least
a year, perhaps longer that the voicemail seems to buffer the entire
incoming number stream.

Q

jk <kend99@hotmail.com> wrote in news:dbl8n390kfcv0l3cb7541rdjjuqru62fjc@
4ax.com:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST), techman41973@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>>I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>>phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
>>from my phone.
>>Is there a way to set this up?
>>Thanks
>
> You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need
> to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you
> how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled. It should be
> is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they don't because
> you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as
> they say - time is money.
>

And you are confident enough to have Verizon handling it just knowing the
phone and not the person using the phone? If so, can I borrow your phone
when they fix this?

At 27 Dec 2007 20:02:09 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:

> > You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need
> > to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you
> > how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled. It should be
> > is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they don't because
> > you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as
> > they say - time is money.
>
> And you are confident enough to have Verizon handling it just knowing the
> phone and not the person using the phone? If so, can I borrow your phone
> when they fix this?

To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you have
to enter a password when calling from your own phone.

Verizon could offer the option for those who choose that level of security,
rather than play nanny for everyone.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:fl2d41$ja5$2@aioe.org:

> At 27 Dec 2007 20:02:09 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
>
>> > You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the
>> > need to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is
>> > telling you how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled.
>> > It should be is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they
>> > don't because you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the
>> > password. And as they say - time is money.
>>
>> And you are confident enough to have Verizon handling it just knowing
>> the phone and not the person using the phone? If so, can I borrow
>> your phone when they fix this?
>
> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you
> have to enter a password when calling from your own phone.

Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option.
>
> Verizon could offer the option for those who choose that level of
> security, rather than play nanny for everyone.
>
>
>

CozmicDebris wrote:
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
>> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you
>> have to enter a password when calling from your own phone.
>
> Which carriers?

AT&T

On 2007-12-28, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you
>>> have to enter a password when calling from your own phone.
>>
>> Which carriers?
>
> AT&T

and Sprint. And maybe T-Mo.


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Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
newso7an3pfcdr9lnc2ilp44idji67sec16u9@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:27:11 -0600, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>>Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option.
>
> So switch carriers if it bothers you that much...otherwise just setup a
> "contact" for voicemail that automatically sends your pw when it
> connects!
>

Who said it bothered me? I simply asked a question.

At 28 Dec 2007 07:27:11 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
> news:fl2d41$ja5$2@aioe.org:

> > To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not you
> > have to enter a password when calling from your own phone.
>
> Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option.


T-Mobile has it as an option in their voicemail setup menu, as did Cingular
in the old TDMA days (the last time I used them.) AFAIK, AT&T no longer
offers the option (their VM defaults to no password needed, apparently,
since it made an acquaintence of mine switch to Verizon since he needed the
assurance if he accidentally left his phone at a client's place, they
couldn't listen to his VMs.

jk wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST), techman41973@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my
>> voicemail from my phone.
>> Is there a way to set this up?
>> Thanks
>
> You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need
> to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you
> how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled. It should be
> is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they don't because
> you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as
> they say - time is money.
>

That's a pretty cynical viewpoint guy. As a couple of other people have
pointed out on this thread, some users wouldn't want their voicemail
accessible if they lost, or had stolen, their phone. I'm one of those.

The solutions suggested in this thread sure seem simple enough to implement
if that's the way you want to go.

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 28 Dec 2007 07:27:11 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
>> news:fl2d41$ja5$2@aioe.org:
>
>>> To be fair, some other carriers allow you to choose whether or not
>>> you have to enter a password when calling from your own phone.
>>
>> Which carriers? I don't remember this ever being an option.
>
>
> T-Mobile has it as an option in their voicemail setup menu, as did
> Cingular in the old TDMA days (the last time I used them.) AFAIK,
> AT&T no longer offers the option (their VM defaults to no password
> needed, apparently, since it made an acquaintence of mine switch to
> Verizon since he needed the assurance if he accidentally left his
> phone at a client's place, they couldn't listen to his VMs.
>
There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small inconvenience
(ie. entering a password). Good anecdote.

Carl wrote:
> jk wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:37:04 -0800 (PST), techman41973@yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
>>> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my
>>> voicemail from my phone.
>>> Is there a way to set this up?
>>> Thanks
>> You are right! It should recognize the phone and eliminate the need
>> to put in the password. BUT it won't. Everyone else is telling you
>> how to handle it, but It shouldn't need to be handled. It should be
>> is handled at the Verizon end. My guess is that they don't because
>> you spend time waiting for prompts and keying in the password. And as
>> they say - time is money.
>>
>
> That's a pretty cynical viewpoint guy. As a couple of other people have
> pointed out on this thread, some users wouldn't want their voicemail
> accessible if they lost, or had stolen, their phone. I'm one of those.
>
> The solutions suggested in this thread sure seem simple enough to implement
> if that's the way you want to go.
>
>
Same here, I like the idea of being pro security. I don't want someone
to be able to access my voicemail simply because I lost or misplaced the
phone.

techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
> I would think that the Verizon voicemail system could recognize my
> phone and NOT prompt me for me password when calling into my voicemail
> from my phone.
> Is there a way to set this up?
> Thanks

How about if someone else borrowed or stole your phone??

At 29 Dec 2007 20:42:40 -0500 Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> How about if someone else borrowed or stole your phone??

You could key-lock the phone to prevent it from calling voicemail (or
anyone else.)

At 28 Dec 2007 23:38:07 -0500 Carl wrote:

> There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small
inconvenience
> (ie. entering a password). Good anecdote.

I'm not sure I feel as strongly about it myself, but he often had
confidential info about other clients in his VM that would be inappropriate
to leave unprotected.

T-Mo gives you the option and I chose not to have a password prompt when
calling from the handset when I used their VM system (I use a Visual
Voicemail system these days,) but then again my handset automatically
password locks after 10 minutes of non-use, so anyone stealing or finding
it better move quickly!

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:fl7t4t$d1t$3@aioe.org:

> At 28 Dec 2007 23:38:07 -0500 Carl wrote:
>
>> There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small
> inconvenience
>> (ie. entering a password). Good anecdote.
>
> I'm not sure I feel as strongly about it myself, but he often had
> confidential info about other clients in his VM that would be
> inappropriate to leave unprotected.
>
> T-Mo gives you the option and I chose not to have a password prompt
> when calling from the handset when I used their VM system (I use a
> Visual Voicemail system these days,) but then again my handset
> automatically password locks after 10 minutes of non-use, so anyone
> stealing or finding it better move quickly!
>
>
>

Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with other
carriers?

At 30 Dec 2007 09:16:55 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:

> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can
> with other carriers?


I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on T-
Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted. Obviously you
can access the VM by calling the mobile phone- that always requires a VM
password, regardless of settings.

That will get you to your voicemail. But you still have to enter your
password.

"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> wrote in message
news:Xns9A165495150A6isheforreal@216.196.97.136...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
> news:fl7t4t$d1t$3@aioe.org:
>
>> At 28 Dec 2007 23:38:07 -0500 Carl wrote:
>>
>>> There you go. A pretty steep price to pay for a rather small
>> inconvenience
>>> (ie. entering a password). Good anecdote.
>>
>> I'm not sure I feel as strongly about it myself, but he often had
>> confidential info about other clients in his VM that would be
>> inappropriate to leave unprotected.
>>
>> T-Mo gives you the option and I chose not to have a password prompt
>> when calling from the handset when I used their VM system (I use a
>> Visual Voicemail system these days,) but then again my handset
>> automatically password locks after 10 minutes of non-use, so anyone
>> stealing or finding it better move quickly!
>>
>>
>>
>
> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with
> other
> carriers?

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:fl8pb2$6qs$2@aioe.org:

> At 30 Dec 2007 09:16:55 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
>
>> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can
>> with other carriers?
>
>
> I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on
> T- Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted.
> Obviously you can access the VM by calling the mobile phone- that
> always requires a VM password, regardless of settings.
>
>
>

I was talking the second option. So you are saying that I can set up
voicemail with no password, but then would need a password if I accessed VM
by calling the phone? When is that password set up?

I'm actually not trying to be a smartass here- honest questions.

"Richard" <rick749@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4777e94c$0$13905
$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> That will get you to your voicemail. But you still have to enter your
> password.
>

>
>

What if there is no password on the VM account?

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 30 Dec 2007 09:16:55 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
>
>> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can
>> with other carriers?
>
>
> I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on T-
> Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted.

The number is 1-805-637-7243. I've use it with my mother's prepaid
T-Mobile account. There is an option to leave a message for a T-Mobile
subscriber, or to access the voice mail system if you are a T-Mobile
subscriber.

CozmicDebris wrote:

> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with other
> carriers?

That's not a back door. A back door is being able to leave a message for
someone, or check your voicemail, by calling a regular phone number. For
T-Mobile, it's 1-805-637-7243. Verizon has a bunch of local back door
numbers.

=?UTF-8?B?U01TIOaWr+iSguaWh+KAoiDlpI8=?= <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in news:477817f1$0$84247$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> CozmicDebris wrote:
>
>> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can with
>> other carriers?
>
> That's not a back door. A back door is being able to leave a message
> for someone, or check your voicemail, by calling a regular phone
> number. For T-Mobile, it's 1-805-637-7243. Verizon has a bunch of
> local back door numbers.
>

A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the
cellphone.

On 2007-12-30, SMS 斯蒂文• 夏 <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> The number is 1-805-637-7243. I've use it with my mother's prepaid
> T-Mobile account. There is an option to leave a message for a T-Mobile
> subscriber, or to access the voice mail system if you are a T-Mobile
> subscriber.

That's right, and it's been programmed as the voice mail number on all of
the T-Mo phones we've owned since signing on with T-Mo in 2005. It would
probably be easier to memorize it as 1-805-MESSAGE.


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CozmicDebris wrote:
> A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the
> cellphone.

http://tinyurl.com/34fwv8
Google results for *back door cell phone voice mail numbers*

At 30 Dec 2007 16:37:22 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:

> A back door is any way to get into VM other than dialing it with the
> cellphone.


I'm with Steven on this one- typically, in common parlance, a "backdoor" is
a way to access the VM system without ringing the phone itself- calling the
phone's own number, (the "front door,") to access VM is simply remote
retrieval.

At 30 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
> news:fl8pb2$6qs$2@aioe.org:
>
> > At 30 Dec 2007 09:16:55 -0600 CozmicDebris wrote:
> >
> >> Can you backdoor the voicemail by calling the phone like you can
> >> with other carriers?
> >
> >
> > I assume you mean a true backdoor (without making the phone ring?) on
> > T- Mo's system. I've never seen such a backdoor number posted.
> > Obviously you can access the VM by calling the mobile phone- that
> > always requires a VM password, regardless of settings.
> >
> >
> >
>
> I was talking the second option. So you are saying that I can set up
> voicemail with no password, but then would need a password if I accessed
VM
> by calling the phone? When is that password set up?
>
> I'm actually not trying to be a smartass here- honest questions.


Understood! The password creation is a forced option when you first setup
your mailbox. The next question the VRU asks is if you want to require it
when calling from your own cellphone.

If you never set up your mailbox, (i.e. a new account) a default is used
(it's been so long that I don't remember if the default is a fixed set of
digits like "1111" or the last 4 of your phone number.)