>My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
hands.
badgolferman wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
>
> I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
> just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
> forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
> clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
> phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
> hands.
>
>
I will probably stay with mine as well. I don't have to prove how cool
I am. I just want a phone that works. If it supports some PDA
functions with a good user interface, so much the better.
My RAZR falls a little short of perfection; pressing the 2-ABC key four
times to get a C is not what I call a well designed user interface.
Fortunately, I don't need to use the keypad to enter alphanumeric data;
I can plug it into my computer and use a real keyboard for such things.
I have been tempted by the Blackberry but it's expensive to buy and I'm
told I'd have to pay for a "data plan" as well.
> My RAZR falls a little short of perfection; pressing the 2-ABC key
> four times to get a C is not what I call a well designed user
> interface.
Get used to using the ITAP method of entering text. It works very well
although occassionally you must enter in words manually that are not in
its dictionary. But that's only ONCE since it will remember it from
then on.
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> badgolferman wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>> My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
>>
>> I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
>> just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
>> forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
>> clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
>> phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
>> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
>> hands.
>>
>>
>
> I will probably stay with mine as well. I don't have to prove how cool
> I am. I just want a phone that works. If it supports some PDA
> functions with a good user interface, so much the better.
>
Actually it has little to do with "being cool". Presumably you used a
computer to make your post? And maybe you do other stuff with the computer?
Its really handy to have a powerful mobile device. Example, we were in
Philly last week. The usual drill when leaving Philly if you need to go
north is hop on the Schuylkill and hope it doesn't take 2 hours to drive
the next ten miles because it is only two lanes in each direction and
any accident etc can really tie it up. PennDOT has cameras all along the
expressway. In a couple taps I could see it was a parking lot so we had
another coffee and relaxed instead of fighting traffic. Or we went on a
long bicycle ride on a day with changeable weather. With a couple taps I
could see the live weather radar and judge how much more time we had. Or
I had a rental car the other day without a GPS. I was in an area where I
am only familiar with a few streets. There was a wreck by my exit and
I couldn't get off. A couple taps and I got turn by turn instructions
how to backtrack through the city to get to my destination.
> My RAZR falls a little short of perfection; pressing the 2-ABC key four
> times to get a C is not what I call a well designed user interface.
> Fortunately, I don't need to use the keypad to enter alphanumeric data;
> I can plug it into my computer and use a real keyboard for such things.
>
> I have been tempted by the Blackberry but it's expensive to buy and I'm
> told I'd have to pay for a "data plan" as well.
badgolferman wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
>
> I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
> just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
> forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
> clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
> phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
> hands.
>
>
George wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> badgolferman wrote:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>
>>>> My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
>>>
>>> I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
>>> just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
>>> forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
>>> clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
>>> phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
>>> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
>>> hands.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I will probably stay with mine as well. I don't have to prove how
>> cool I am. I just want a phone that works. If it supports some PDA
>> functions with a good user interface, so much the better.
>>
>
> Actually it has little to do with "being cool". Presumably you used a
> computer to make your post? And maybe you do other stuff with the computer?
>
Oh yes. I'm typing this from a real, full size keyboard and reading it
on a 21" monitor.
> Its really handy to have a powerful mobile device. Example, we were in
> Philly last week. The usual drill when leaving Philly if you need to go
> north is hop on the Schuylkill and hope it doesn't take 2 hours to drive
> the next ten miles because it is only two lanes in each direction and
> any accident etc can really tie it up. PennDOT has cameras all along the
> expressway. In a couple taps I could see it was a parking lot so we had
Is there any really good alternative to the Schuylkill? ;-)
> another coffee and relaxed instead of fighting traffic. Or we went on a
> long bicycle ride on a day with changeable weather. With a couple taps I
> could see the live weather radar and judge how much more time we had. Or
How do you get the "live weather radar" on your phone? Nothing that
came with my phone almost two years ago and nothing I've heard until now
even suggested it was possible! Can you see anything useful on a 2-1/4"
(diagonal) screen? That's the size of the screen on my RAZR. Even a
Blackberry has only a 3-1/4" diagonal screen.
> I had a rental car the other day without a GPS. I was in an area where I
> am only familiar with a few streets. There was a wreck by my exit and I
> couldn't get off. A couple taps and I got turn by turn instructions how
> to backtrack through the city to get to my destination.
<snip>
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:hd4q5f$a4v$1@news.eternal-
september.org:
> Its really handy to have a powerful mobile device.
Yes, it is.....an unhobbled up netbook with a 10" display the damned
sellphone company hasn't had its fingers into turning useful things like
FLASH off in.....
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
news:nLSdnSkrepSKlWvXnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com :
> How do you get the "live weather radar" on your phone? Nothing that
> came with my phone almost two years ago and nothing I've heard until now
> even suggested it was possible! Can you see anything useful on a 2-1/4"
> (diagonal) screen? That's the size of the screen on my RAZR. Even a
> Blackberry has only a 3-1/4" diagonal screen.
>
>
It's a WAP page with almost nothing to cram your smartphone and the
graphics are small and GIF movies the damned sellphone companies haven't
hobbled up.........yet......instead of the JAVA it won't play or FLASH.
It's so compact and quick I use it on all the computers here for the radar
images on it....just use the larger ones on your real computers.
Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:hd4q5f$a4v$1@news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> Its really handy to have a powerful mobile device.
>
> Yes, it is.....an unhobbled up netbook with a 10" display the damned
> sellphone company hasn't had its fingers into turning useful things like
> FLASH off in.....
>
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> George wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>> badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My hopelessly obsolete RAZR V3m does what I need.
>>>>
>>>> I've gone back to mine twice! Even got another battery since I plan to
>>>> just stay with it. All new phones I've used or tried out seem to have
>>>> forgotten their #1 function should be signal strength and voice
>>>> clarity. My RAZR receives calls in our house when the wife and kids'
>>>> phones don't. It feels solid and fits in my pocket nicely. All those
>>>> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
>>>> hands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I will probably stay with mine as well. I don't have to prove how
>>> cool I am. I just want a phone that works. If it supports some PDA
>>> functions with a good user interface, so much the better.
>>>
>>
>> Actually it has little to do with "being cool". Presumably you used a
>> computer to make your post? And maybe you do other stuff with the
>> computer?
>>
>
>
> Oh yes. I'm typing this from a real, full size keyboard and reading it
> on a 21" monitor.
Me too, but there seems to be some portability issues with that and my
back hurts from hauling it around..
You certainly aren't going to edit multiple documents and have a browser
open at the same time but mobiles are perfectly usable and much much
better than nothing.
>
>> Its really handy to have a powerful mobile device. Example, we were in
>> Philly last week. The usual drill when leaving Philly if you need to
>> go north is hop on the Schuylkill and hope it doesn't take 2 hours to
>> drive the next ten miles because it is only two lanes in each
>> direction and any accident etc can really tie it up. PennDOT has
>> cameras all along the expressway. In a couple taps I could see it was
>> a parking lot so we had
>
> Is there any really good alternative to the Schuylkill? ;-)
No, but at least now I don't need to race from 0-5 MPH 250 times in 10
miles if you take a quick look at a couple traffic cams.
>
>> another coffee and relaxed instead of fighting traffic. Or we went on
>> a long bicycle ride on a day with changeable weather. With a couple
>> taps I could see the live weather radar and judge how much more time
>> we had. Or
>
> How do you get the "live weather radar" on your phone? Nothing that
> came with my phone almost two years ago and nothing I've heard until now
> even suggested it was possible! Can you see anything useful on a 2-1/4"
> (diagonal) screen? That's the size of the screen on my RAZR. Even a
> Blackberry has only a 3-1/4" diagonal screen.
Pretty much all of the usual weather sites have a smaller version that
runs well on a mobile phone.
>
>> I had a rental car the other day without a GPS. I was in an area where
>> I am only familiar with a few streets. There was a wreck by my exit
>> and I couldn't get off. A couple taps and I got turn by turn
>> instructions how to backtrack through the city to get to my destination.
> <snip>
Larry wrote:
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:xn0ghdcrgrwc9004@reader.albasani.net:
>
>> All those
>> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
>> hands.
>>
>
> I disagree. Computers do USEFUL things at their OWNER's bidding.
> Smartphones work for sellphone corporations to prevent using bandwidth...
>
> Useless....Droid is no different.
>
>
Honestly, has there ever been a day in your life when there wasn't a
black cloud over your head? There are lots of folks like me who look at
the utility value of devices and really don't care about downloading
100Gb/day of pirated movies on them.
3rd & Long wrote:
> "3rd & Long" <defense@sec.fb> wrote in message
> news:hd45gi$71s$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Well, what say you-- good, bad, what?
>>
>
> Ah yes, the old ACV newsgroup phenomena!
>
> 21 hours since the OP, 13 spleen-venting philosophical responses--- but no
> one answered the question ;-)
>
>
Has it occurred to you that maybe no one here has bought one or cared
enough to go the the VZW store and look at it?
Why don't you just go buy one, use it for a week or two, and write a review?
> "3rd & Long" <defense@sec.fb> wrote in message
> news:hd45gi$71s$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Well, what say you-- good, bad, what?
>
> Ah yes, the old ACV newsgroup phenomena!
>
> 21 hours since the OP, 13 spleen-venting philosophical
> responses--- but no one answered the question ;-)
Since the Droid was made available only a day or two ago I doubt that
anyone has had one long enough to give an answer. If I'd ordered one
the day it appeared on VZW's website I probably wouldn't have it until
Monday.
> I have looked all over and can't get an answer anywhere on the
> Internet so I'll ask here. Are the new Droid phones Global or
> CDMA only?
>
> I travel a lot and I need a global phone.
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:hd6df2$967$1@news.eternal-september.org:
> Larry wrote:
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:xn0ghdcrgrwc9004@reader.albasani.net:
>>
>>> All those
>>> fancy devices goming out these days are merely a computer in one's
>>> hands.
>>>
>>
>> I disagree. Computers do USEFUL things at their OWNER's bidding.
>> Smartphones work for sellphone corporations to prevent using
>> bandwidth...
>>
>> Useless....Droid is no different.
>>
>>
> Honestly, has there ever been a day in your life when there wasn't a
> black cloud over your head? There are lots of folks like me who look
> at the utility value of devices and really don't care about
> downloading 100Gb/day of pirated movies on them.
>
Other than email and the simplest of webpages, pray tell us what your Droid
will do for you hobbled up like this.....I'm sure I won't be the only one
interested.
Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:005597e7$0$16792
$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
> Are the new Droid phones Global or CDMA only?
>
One of the most important things a sellphone, any sellphone, does is to
protect its company from "churning", customers fed up being able to go
anywhere they like. This is particularly in the USA where the companies
were allowed to implement a whole array of completely incompatible systems
so the you Verizon phone will never work on T-Mobile....or your ATT phone
will never work on Verizon....over their dead bodies.
Seeing this scam, much of the rest of the sane world FORCED the carriers
into one digital scheme to protect their citizens. USA is more interested
in corporations than citizens, especially of late. Notice we had trillions
of dollars to give out to failed corporations, but they're bitching like
hell about the cost of less than $1T so the CITIZENS can be guaranteed a
doctor when they desparately need it.
So, most every phone any of the carriers sell will NEVER be compatible with
their COMPETITORS' systems, if they can prevent it. It's why there are so
few phones that work on all the systems and all the different frequency
bands used around the planet.....to prevent churning.
Droid is no exception, just like iPhone only works on GSM, Droid only works
on CDMA.
In article <hd45gi$71s$1@news.albasani.net>,
"3rd & Long" <defense@sec.fb> wrote:
> Well, what say you-- good, bad, what?
I had a pretty long time with one at the VW store. I thought it might be
Verizon's iPhone. It is not.
First, it is HEAVY. I put it in my pocket and was very much aware of it.
It is about the same size as the iPhone but the weight makes a big
difference.
The main deal killer is even though it says "Voice Dialing", it is not.
I connected my bluetooth headset to it. You cannot voice dial through
bluetooth. In order to voice dial you have to open the phone, go through
a few menus then speak to it. It would be easier to simply go to your
contacts and dial that way. I need to be able to voice dial in my car
without touching the phone. Not possible on the droid.
The keyboard is ok but very small. I would probably not bother with it,
though the touchpad is pretty coarse. The menus and interface appear
archaic. I was not able to get to the GPS street view. Maybe it is
possible but certainly not intuitive. There are way too many menus to go
through to get anywhere.
I am a long time vzw user, and a longer time Mac user. I have an iPod
Touch and use an iPhone a lot. The Droid is nowhere near the class of an
iPhone. The screen may have more pixels but it is not as bright or
clear.
My current phone is a Razr v9m and I'm keeping it.
"M-M" <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote in message
news:nospam.m-m-3BC9BF.01164209112009@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com...
> In article <hd45gi$71s$1@news.albasani.net>,
> "3rd & Long" <defense@sec.fb> wrote:
>
>> Well, what say you-- good, bad, what?
>
>
> I had a pretty long time with one at the VW store. I thought it might be
> Verizon's iPhone. It is not.
>
> First, it is HEAVY. I put it in my pocket and was very much aware of it.
> It is about the same size as the iPhone but the weight makes a big
> difference.
>
> The main deal killer is even though it says "Voice Dialing", it is not.
> I connected my bluetooth headset to it. You cannot voice dial through
> bluetooth. In order to voice dial you have to open the phone, go through
> a few menus then speak to it. It would be easier to simply go to your
> contacts and dial that way. I need to be able to voice dial in my car
> without touching the phone. Not possible on the droid.
>
> The keyboard is ok but very small. I would probably not bother with it,
> though the touchpad is pretty coarse. The menus and interface appear
> archaic. I was not able to get to the GPS street view. Maybe it is
> possible but certainly not intuitive. There are way too many menus to go
> through to get anywhere.
>
> I am a long time vzw user, and a longer time Mac user. I have an iPod
> Touch and use an iPhone a lot. The Droid is nowhere near the class of an
> iPhone. The screen may have more pixels but it is not as bright or
> clear.
>
> My current phone is a Razr v9m and I'm keeping it.
>
> --
> m-m
> http://www.mhmyers.com
badgolferman wrote:
> M-M, 11/9/2009,1:16:42 AM, wrote:
>
>> My current phone is a Razr v9m and I'm keeping it.
>
> Imagine that, yet another loyalist.
>
If you're rich, maybe you can buy new technology as soon as it hits the
streets. Most of us have to make our cars, phones, and other appliances
last as long as possible. I'm on my third cell phone now and have had
it for two years. With any luck I'll be able to get another two or
three years out of it. My previous phones gave me four or five years each!
When my NE2 comes up in late December, I'll look at what's available.
It's possible that they will be offering something irresistible! I
really can't see spending a lot of money on "just another cell phone".
3rd & Long wrote:
> "M-M" <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote in message
> news:nospam.m-m-3BC9BF.01164209112009@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com...
>> In article <hd45gi$71s$1@news.albasani.net>,
>> "3rd & Long" <defense@sec.fb> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, what say you-- good, bad, what?
>>
>> I had a pretty long time with one at the VW store. I thought it might be
>> Verizon's iPhone. It is not.
>>
>> First, it is HEAVY. I put it in my pocket and was very much aware of it.
>> It is about the same size as the iPhone but the weight makes a big
>> difference.
>>
>> The main deal killer is even though it says "Voice Dialing", it is not.
>> I connected my bluetooth headset to it. You cannot voice dial through
>> bluetooth. In order to voice dial you have to open the phone, go through
>> a few menus then speak to it. It would be easier to simply go to your
>> contacts and dial that way. I need to be able to voice dial in my car
>> without touching the phone. Not possible on the droid.
>>
>> The keyboard is ok but very small. I would probably not bother with it,
>> though the touchpad is pretty coarse. The menus and interface appear
>> archaic. I was not able to get to the GPS street view. Maybe it is
>> possible but certainly not intuitive. There are way too many menus to go
>> through to get anywhere.
>>
>> I am a long time vzw user, and a longer time Mac user. I have an iPod
>> Touch and use an iPhone a lot. The Droid is nowhere near the class of an
>> iPhone. The screen may have more pixels but it is not as bright or
>> clear.
>>
>> My current phone is a Razr v9m and I'm keeping it.
>>
>> --
>> m-m
>> http://www.mhmyers.com
>
>
> Ahh, finally-- a review. Thank you!
>
>
How long has the "Droid" been available? A week? I expect that we'll
find both good and bad features as the days pass.
XS11E wrote:
> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I have looked all over and can't get an answer anywhere on the
>> Internet so I'll ask here. Are the new Droid phones Global or
>> CDMA only?
>>
>> I travel a lot and I need a global phone.
>
> Near as I can tell, CDMA only.
>
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
> How do you get the "live weather radar" on your phone? Nothing that
> came with my phone almost two years ago and nothing I've heard until
> now
> even suggested it was possible! Can you see anything useful on a
> 2-1/4"
> (diagonal) screen? That's the size of the screen on my RAZR. Even a
> Blackberry has only a 3-1/4" diagonal screen.
> <snip>
I have seen all kinds of live weather radar displayed on Apple's iPhone.
They even have weatherunderground wunder radar which you can zoom right
down to your house!
I have seen users tell how many minutes we have before we have to
suspend activites to avoid the rain simply by watching a real time radar
display on the iPhone.
Anyone Gotta Droid Yet? 
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