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Old 11-26-2006, 02:51 PM
goodman
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Default Best phone for BT to PDA for internet?

What phone is the easy to set up BT connection with PDA (AXIM) to get
it on the internet? Just need to be able to check email couple of
times a day.

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Old 11-26-2006, 03:38 PM
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goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:urdjm2575irm4el0q3qfilgditi0bsql05@
4ax.com:

> What phone is the easy to set up BT connection with PDA (AXIM) to get
> it on the internet? Just need to be able to check email couple of
> times a day.
>


I just sent back an Axim X51v because most of the BT was inoperative, such
as talking to mobile devices....headset, hands-free, keyboards, etc. If
you don't get a connection on BT with a cellphone, don't be surprised. It
may not be installed, either. The X51V would BT to my laptop, but that's
not acting as a BT modem, just a synchronizer.

You can pair up BT headsets with the Axim, but when you go to tell it to
use the BT as the audio device or hands-free device, notice how those
selections are GREYED OUT.

Call the Indians on Dell Tech Support and get the runaround like I did.
They'll finally admit to you, if you persist, that most BT functions are
unavailable to the Axim. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Search around. There may be a hack for it, though.

Axims suck!

Larry
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by Christmas Eve....rrrrump..pa-pum...pum...up his bum....

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Old 11-26-2006, 03:43 PM
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Did you try f/w update? I have the AXIM 30 so hopefully it will work.
I hooked it to someone esle phone and they seen each other was just
haveing trouble dialing out. well it would dail out but then said log
and pass was wrong.


On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:38:49 -0500, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:urdjm2575irm4el0q3qfilgditi0bsql05@
>4ax.com:
>
>> What phone is the easy to set up BT connection with PDA (AXIM) to get
>> it on the internet? Just need to be able to check email couple of
>> times a day.
>>

>
>I just sent back an Axim X51v because most of the BT was inoperative, such
>as talking to mobile devices....headset, hands-free, keyboards, etc. If
>you don't get a connection on BT with a cellphone, don't be surprised. It
>may not be installed, either. The X51V would BT to my laptop, but that's
>not acting as a BT modem, just a synchronizer.
>
>You can pair up BT headsets with the Axim, but when you go to tell it to
>use the BT as the audio device or hands-free device, notice how those
>selections are GREYED OUT.
>
>Call the Indians on Dell Tech Support and get the runaround like I did.
>They'll finally admit to you, if you persist, that most BT functions are
>unavailable to the Axim. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
>
>Search around. There may be a hack for it, though.
>
>Axims suck!
>
>Larry



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Old 11-26-2006, 09:12 PM
Larry
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goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
4ax.com:

> Did you try f/w update?


The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth was
disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what programs were
installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY screen, programs would
simply disappear with no way to retrieve them. "Switcher", a utility to
switch between programs Micro$not forgot to write, would totally lose them
from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!

Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a REfund...(c;

I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!

Larry

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Old 11-26-2006, 09:39 PM
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In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>4ax.com:
>
>> Did you try f/w update?

>
>The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth was
>disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what programs were
>installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY screen, programs would
>simply disappear with no way to retrieve them. "Switcher", a utility to
>switch between programs Micro$not forgot to write, would totally lose them
>from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>
>Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a REfund...(c;
>
>I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>
>Larry



If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie TG50. It
has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I have it paired
to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a commercial ISP via voice
minutes.

Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no $60+/month
charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP option gives me
the ability to access the Internet even if I'm roaming or in analog
territory, so I don't even lose Internet service if I'm completely off
digital or Verizon's network.

Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.

Scott

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Old 11-27-2006, 02:18 AM
Larry
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scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote in news:456a17bd$0$567$b45e6eb0
@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu:

> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>
> Scott
>


Thanks, Scott. I'll check it out when Skype comes out for the wifi Palms.

I ordered the $159 wifi SMC phone package for Skype....

Larry
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Best phone for BT to PDA for internet?

But what phone do you have? I want to make sure I get new phone that
has BT and will work with my PDA BT to dail out. try on someone raz
and did not work.


On 26 Nov 2006 22:39:57 GMT, scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:

>In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
>Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> Did you try f/w update?

>>
>>The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth was
>>disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what programs were
>>installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY screen, programs would
>>simply disappear with no way to retrieve them. "Switcher", a utility to
>>switch between programs Micro$not forgot to write, would totally lose them
>>from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>>Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>>
>>Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a REfund...(c;
>>
>>I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>>charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>>
>>Larry

>
>
>If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie TG50. It
>has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I have it paired
>to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a commercial ISP via voice
>minutes.
>
>Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no $60+/month
>charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP option gives me
>the ability to access the Internet even if I'm roaming or in analog
>territory, so I don't even lose Internet service if I'm completely off
>digital or Verizon's network.
>
>Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>
>Scott



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Old 11-28-2006, 01:13 AM
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Larry wrote:
> scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote in news:456a17bd$0$567$b45e6eb0
> @senator-bedfellow.mit.edu:
>
>> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>>
>> Scott
>>

>
> Thanks, Scott. I'll check it out when Skype comes out for the wifi Palms.
>
> I ordered the $159 wifi SMC phone package for Skype....
>
> Larry


Don't hold your breath on the Palm and Skype. Palm is pretty much in
the lowest drawer for updates.

Q

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Old 11-28-2006, 01:15 AM
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goodman wrote:
> But what phone do you have? I want to make sure I get new phone that
> has BT and will work with my PDA BT to dail out. try on someone raz
> and did not work.
>
>
> On 26 Nov 2006 22:39:57 GMT, scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>> goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>>> 4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Did you try f/w update?
>>> The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth was
>>> disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what programs were
>>> installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY screen, programs would
>>> simply disappear with no way to retrieve them. "Switcher", a utility to
>>> switch between programs Micro$not forgot to write, would totally lose them
>> >from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>>> Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>>>
>>> Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a REfund...(c;
>>>
>>> I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>>> charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>>>
>>> Larry

>>
>> If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie TG50. It
>> has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I have it paired
>> to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a commercial ISP via voice
>> minutes.
>>
>> Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no $60+/month
>> charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP option gives me
>> the ability to access the Internet even if I'm roaming or in analog
>> territory, so I don't even lose Internet service if I'm completely off
>> digital or Verizon's network.
>>
>> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>>
>> Scott

>


Unless someone knows differently, Verizon has actively locked out their
phone BT systems for PDAs and most, if not all, computer pairings. You
can purchase a PC-Card for computer connectivity.

Q

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Old 11-28-2006, 11:48 PM
Scott Ehrlich
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In article <fbCdnUBu-c1EBvbYnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Quaoar <quaoar@marcabfleet.com> wrote:
>goodman wrote:
>> But what phone do you have? I want to make sure I get new phone that
>> has BT and will work with my PDA BT to dail out. try on someone raz
>> and did not work.
>>
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2006 22:39:57 GMT, scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>> goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>>>> 4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Did you try f/w update?
>>>> The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth was
>>>> disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what programs were
>>>> installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY screen, programs would
>>>> simply disappear with no way to retrieve them. "Switcher", a utility to
>>>> switch between programs Micro$not forgot to write, would totally lose them
>>> >from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>>>> Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>>>>
>>>> Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a REfund...(c;
>>>>
>>>> I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>>>> charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>
>>> If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie TG50. It
>>> has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I have it paired
>>> to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a commercial ISP via voice
>>> minutes.
>>>
>>> Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no $60+/month
>>> charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP option gives me
>>> the ability to access the Internet even if I'm roaming or in analog
>>> territory, so I don't even lose Internet service if I'm completely off
>>> digital or Verizon's network.
>>>
>>> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>>>
>>> Scott

>>


I had to buy, from a third-party, the Motorola bluetooth battery cover to
help my 270c phone pair with my PDA, so Verizon never got in the way
there.

Reportedly, the Nokia 6256i for Verizon was never made "public" by Verizon
because Nokia reportedly didn't cripple bluetooth capability.

I'll learn soon enough when my Nokia arrives from a winning ebay bid...

Scott

>
>Unless someone knows differently, Verizon has actively locked out their
>phone BT systems for PDAs and most, if not all, computer pairings. You
>can purchase a PC-Card for computer connectivity.
>
>Q




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Old 11-29-2006, 02:13 AM
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Quaoar wrote:
> goodman wrote:
>
>> But what phone do you have? I want to make sure I get new phone that
>> has BT and will work with my PDA BT to dail out. try on someone raz
>> and did not work.
>>
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2006 22:39:57 GMT, scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>>>> 4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Did you try f/w update?
>>>>
>>>> The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth
>>>> was disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what
>>>> programs were installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY
>>>> screen, programs would simply disappear with no way to retrieve
>>>> them. "Switcher", a utility to switch between programs Micro$not
>>>> forgot to write, would totally lose them
>>>
>>> >from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>>>
>>>> Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>>>>
>>>> Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a
>>>> REfund...(c;
>>>>
>>>> I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>>>> charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie
>>> TG50. It has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I
>>> have it paired to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a
>>> commercial ISP via voice minutes.
>>>
>>> Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no
>>> $60+/month charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP
>>> option gives me the ability to access the Internet even if I'm
>>> roaming or in analog territory, so I don't even lose Internet service
>>> if I'm completely off digital or Verizon's network.
>>>
>>> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>>>
>>> Scott

>>
>>

>
> Unless someone knows differently, Verizon has actively locked out their
> phone BT systems for PDAs and most, if not all, computer pairings. You
> can purchase a PC-Card for computer connectivity.
>
> Q

That's one reason I decided to get a Nokia 6236i (besides liking the bar
form factor better, and good experiences with the 6289i and 6015i - good
backups) for my NE2 a while back. The infrared is NOT locked out
(harder to do without messing up something else?), so I can use it with
my Zire 71/72 PDA's as a modem for them to access the internet.

However, I never could quite get the IR working with Windows XP or Linux
on my Thinkpad X30 to make that connection, so I got the Nokia DKU-2 USB
cable, and it does fine (easier with Ubuntu Linux than with XP ;-).

One thing that hindered me with 1xRTT access was that the Nokia requires
a unique modem init string, and until I tracked that down on the net, I
thought VZW had changed the "usual" access number (#777), and Id/pw from
<10-digit_phone_#>@vzw3g.com/vzw since the error messages indicated
"authorization" type failures. A lot of folks see that problem, and I
suspect it is because the phone needs a special setting to connect to
the right network.

FWIW,
ROC

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Old 11-29-2006, 11:57 PM
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Just received my Nokia 6256i from ebay. Activated it on my account, then
paired it with my Sony Clie TG50 via bluetooth. Performed a successful
data call to a $6/month commercial ISP, and web browsed from the PDA
effortlessly.

I'll let my Motorola 270c on Page Plus Cellular lapse. I've got more than
enough voice minutes to have a lot of fun with the Nokia (data calls using
voice minutes).

Scott

In article <LV6bh.59862$HD6.46234@tornado.southeast.rr.com> ,
rocxspam <nospam@xspamx.no> wrote:
>Quaoar wrote:
>> goodman wrote:
>>
>>> But what phone do you have? I want to make sure I get new phone that
>>> has BT and will work with my PDA BT to dail out. try on someone raz
>>> and did not work.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2006 22:39:57 GMT, scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <Xns9887AF7985DCCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
>>>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> goodman <no@no.com> wrote in news:bugjm2pagjvsl5icj4e43ihkr88uc8jb3s@
>>>>> 4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you try f/w update?
>>>>>
>>>>> The X51v was brand new from Dell....latest firmware. Most Bluetooth
>>>>> was disabled. WM5.1 crashed 8 times a day. It even forgot what
>>>>> programs were installed, some even when RUNNING! On the TODAY
>>>>> screen, programs would simply disappear with no way to retrieve
>>>>> them. "Switcher", a utility to switch between programs Micro$not
>>>>> forgot to write, would totally lose them
>>>>
>>>> >from its running program list when the OS did, then you couldn't reboot
>>>>
>>>>> Switcher because the OS had forgotten where IT was!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fed up with constant reset, reset, REset...I REturned it for a
>>>>> REfund...(c;
>>>>>
>>>>> I always thought a PDA should run LONGER than my Gateway laptop on a
>>>>> charge, too. Dell blew that thought out of the water!
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you are willing to go the Palm route, check out the Sony Clie
>>>> TG50. It has a built-in keyboard, decent screen, and bluetooth. I
>>>> have it paired to a bluetooth-enabled VZW phone and dial into a
>>>> commercial ISP via voice minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Works like a charm. My VZW plan + $6/month for the ISP, and no
>>>> $60+/month charge from Verizon. Actually, using the commercial ISP
>>>> option gives me the ability to access the Internet even if I'm
>>>> roaming or in analog territory, so I don't even lose Internet service
>>>> if I'm completely off digital or Verizon's network.
>>>>
>>>> Check Ebay for the Clie TG50.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Unless someone knows differently, Verizon has actively locked out their
>> phone BT systems for PDAs and most, if not all, computer pairings. You
>> can purchase a PC-Card for computer connectivity.
>>
>> Q

>That's one reason I decided to get a Nokia 6236i (besides liking the bar
>form factor better, and good experiences with the 6289i and 6015i - good
>backups) for my NE2 a while back. The infrared is NOT locked out
>(harder to do without messing up something else?), so I can use it with
>my Zire 71/72 PDA's as a modem for them to access the internet.
>
>However, I never could quite get the IR working with Windows XP or Linux
>on my Thinkpad X30 to make that connection, so I got the Nokia DKU-2 USB
>cable, and it does fine (easier with Ubuntu Linux than with XP ;-).
>
>One thing that hindered me with 1xRTT access was that the Nokia requires
>a unique modem init string, and until I tracked that down on the net, I
>thought VZW had changed the "usual" access number (#777), and Id/pw from
><10-digit_phone_#>@vzw3g.com/vzw since the error messages indicated
>"authorization" type failures. A lot of folks see that problem, and I
>suspect it is because the phone needs a special setting to connect to
>the right network.
>
>FWIW,
>ROC




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Old 12-04-2006, 07:37 PM
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:51:01 -0500, goodman wrote:

> What phone is the easy to set up BT connection with PDA (AXIM) to get
> it on the internet? Just need to be able to check email couple of
> times a day.


My Axim 30h works fine with either my Moto Razr or my Moto 815.

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