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Old 07-17-2011, 06:21 PM
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Default A bit OT: Handsfree car kits

I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's a
PITA.

I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed in
the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a land
line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.

However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care: I
had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.

Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.

Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I found
this glitch...)

I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.

I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...

Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out there,
but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....



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Old 07-17-2011, 10:05 PM
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
> office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's a
> PITA.
>
> I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed in
> the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a land
> line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>
> However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care: I
> had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
> into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>
> Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
> that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
> player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>
> Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
> the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
> this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I found
> this glitch...)
>
> I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
> the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
> stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>
> I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
> patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
> But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>
> Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out there,
> but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....


Me, I'd look for a car stereo that has bluetooth stereo and not just
bluetooth hands free and then use an app similar to the iheartradio app
instead of XM.



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Old 07-18-2011, 02:21 AM
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:05:11 -0500, Roger 2008 wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:4e2319fc$0$29260$c3e8da3$10cdda79@news.astraw eb.com...
>>I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
>> office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's a
>> PITA.
>>
>> I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed in
>> the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a land
>> line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>>
>> However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care: I
>> had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
>> into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>>
>> Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
>> that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
>> player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>>
>> Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
>> the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
>> this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I found
>> this glitch...)
>>
>> I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
>> the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
>> stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>>
>> I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
>> patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
>> But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>>
>> Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out there,
>> but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....

>
> Me, I'd look for a car stereo that has bluetooth stereo and not just
> bluetooth hands free and then use an app similar to the iheartradio app
> instead of XM.



I only get 20MB of data...



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Old 07-18-2011, 02:22 AM
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:02:41 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:21:00 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
> wrote:
>
>>I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
>>office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's a
>>PITA.
>>
>>I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed in
>>the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a land
>>line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>>
>>However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care: I
>>had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
>>into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>>
>>Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
>>that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
>>player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>>
>>Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
>>the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
>>this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I found
>>this glitch...)
>>
>>I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
>>the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
>>stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>>
>>I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
>>patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
>>But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>>
>>Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out there,
>>but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....

>
> Why not get a car stereo that does Bluetooth hands free and XM?



Yeah, that seems to be the easy out. Problem is, I like my older JVC!


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Old 07-18-2011, 02:23 AM
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:05:11 -0500, Roger 2008 wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:4e2319fc$0$29260$c3e8da3$10cdda79@news.astraw eb.com...
>>>I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
>>> office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's
>>> a
>>> PITA.
>>>
>>> I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed
>>> in
>>> the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a
>>> land
>>> line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>>>
>>> However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care:
>>> I
>>> had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
>>> into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>>>
>>> Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
>>> that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
>>> player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>>>
>>> Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
>>> the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
>>> this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I
>>> found
>>> this glitch...)
>>>
>>> I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
>>> the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
>>> stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>>>
>>> I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
>>> patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
>>> But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>>>
>>> Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out
>>> there,
>>> but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....

>>
>> Me, I'd look for a car stereo that has bluetooth stereo and not just
>> bluetooth hands free and then use an app similar to the iheartradio app
>> instead of XM.

>
> I only get 20MB of data...


Big OUCH.

Out of curiosity I looked up the Sony mex-BT2600 (a car radio with bluetooth
that I bought a long time ago) and it says SAT Radio ready but it looks like
all that means is it has an AUX input.



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Old 07-18-2011, 04:40 AM
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:23:50 -0500, Roger 2008 wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:05:11 -0500, Roger 2008 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:4e2319fc$0$29260$c3e8da3$10cdda79@news.astraw eb.com...
>>>>I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
>>>> office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's
>>>> a
>>>> PITA.
>>>>
>>>> I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed
>>>> in
>>>> the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a
>>>> land
>>>> line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>>>>
>>>> However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care:
>>>> I
>>>> had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
>>>> into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>>>>
>>>> Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
>>>> that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
>>>> player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>>>>
>>>> Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
>>>> the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
>>>> this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I
>>>> found
>>>> this glitch...)
>>>>
>>>> I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
>>>> the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
>>>> stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>>>>
>>>> I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
>>>> patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
>>>> But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>>>>
>>>> Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out
>>>> there,
>>>> but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....
>>>
>>> Me, I'd look for a car stereo that has bluetooth stereo and not just
>>> bluetooth hands free and then use an app similar to the iheartradio app
>>> instead of XM.

>>
>> I only get 20MB of data...

>
> Big OUCH.
>
> Out of curiosity I looked up the Sony mex-BT2600 (a car radio with bluetooth
> that I bought a long time ago) and it says SAT Radio ready but it looks like
> all that means is it has an AUX input.



That's fine. I have an older Delphi Roady 2 that has a 3.5mm out. That
would work.

I found a couple around for ~$165, and a Double Din for $188.


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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:33:18 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 21:23:50 -0500, "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Big OUCH.
>>
>>Out of curiosity I looked up the Sony mex-BT2600 (a car radio with bluetooth
>>that I bought a long time ago) and it says SAT Radio ready but it looks like
>>all that means is it has an AUX input.

>
> My stereo is the Clarion cz-500. It can be had for under $200, and the
> satellite option is around $80 - $100, and there's also a HD option
> for $80 - $100. Every once in a while Crutchfield runs a special where
> the XM or HD option is thrown in.



I thought the CZ-500 had built-in BT? It's one of the ones I have been
looking at.

The options are funny. JVC has one BT option for $150, while another can
be found for $49.

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/product...392953332.html

There's also this, which would fit quite nicely in my Scion's Dbl DIN
opening. They list $399, but I have seen them for $190...

http://www.clarion.com/us/en/product...392720983.html


BTW, how do you like the Clarion? They used to be OEM on some Toyotas, and
they had AWESOME receivers! Sometimes the tape section (old school)
lacked, but the radios were magnificent.



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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:51:32 -0700, Evan Platt wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:46:26 -0500, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
> wrote:
>
>>I thought the CZ-500 had built-in BT? It's one of the ones I have been
>>looking at.

>
> Yes, it does. Your two add on choices are HD and satellite.
>
>>
>>The options are funny. JVC has one BT option for $150, while another can
>>be found for $49.
>>
>>http://www.clarion.com/us/en/product...392953332.html
>>
>>There's also this, which would fit quite nicely in my Scion's Dbl DIN
>>opening. They list $399, but I have seen them for $190...
>>
>>http://www.clarion.com/us/en/product...392720983.html
>>
>>
>>BTW, how do you like the Clarion? They used to be OEM on some Toyotas, and
>>they had AWESOME receivers! Sometimes the tape section (old school)
>>lacked, but the radios were magnificent.
>>

>
> It's not bad. A little quirky. Sometimes my iPod won't connect, but it
> could be my iPod, not the stereo.



I was looking at reviews of a couple Clarion models, and this seems to be
the major complaint. However, since I'll be replacing a stereo I really
like, I want to make sure of a couple things: that the audio quality of
the radio/CD/MP3 (from CD) is as good as my JVC, and that people can HEAR
me when I'm talking to them!

People tell me my Motorola is really clear.

And as far as pairing issues, every BT I have tried has quirks. The
Motorola is the best, it ALWAYS pairs with my BlackBerry when I start the
car. However, it doesn't do one thing that the $15 BT speakerphone I had
before did, and that is, if you get out of range, and then come back in
range, pairing was automatic. If I leave the ACC on, I have to turn the
car completely Off and then back on, and it pairs again automatically.

Funny thing is, JVC is behind Clarion in terms of features. The three
Clarion models I am looking at have 2 USB ports (front and rear), THREE
outputs, at least one of them 4 volts, and a front panel AUX port, and a
microphone connector in the rear. JVC has nothing that sophisticated.

The one thing I don't like about the JVCs I have (and I have 4 of them!)
is that after about 18 months the faceplates don't connect properly, and
you either get a blank face or a "Panel Disconnect" warning.

Perhaps it is time to look elsewhere!

(And the CZ501 is only $127!)



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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:21:00 -0500, Hachiroku ハチ*ク wrote:

> I have been looking for a handsfree car kit, since my car is basically my
> office. I drove one car last week that didn't have a handsfree and it's a
> PITA.
>
> I installed a Motorola HF-850, dedicated car kit (needs to be installed in
> the vehicle) and it is MAGNIFICENT! People say I sound like I'm on a land
> line, and can hear me even at 60 MPH with the windows down.
>
> However, it requires a seaprate speaker. In my '89 Mazda, I don't care: I
> had another handsfree with a powered speaker already, so I just tapped
> into that. It looks nerdy, but it works very well.
>
> Now, in my Scion, I don't want to mess things up, and am looking for one
> that can be tapped into the car stereo. I have an aftermarket CD/MP3
> player, so the dedicated Toyota kits won't work.
>
> Motorola also makes the T-605 with a 3.5mm input that patches through to
> the stereo, but for some odd reason, they didn't pass the Bluetooth into
> this connection! (I have one of those coming; I ordered it before I found
> this glitch...)
>
> I have XM set up in all my cars, so I want to plug the XM receiver into
> the handsfree, and then into the car stereo, so calls come through the
> stereo's speakers. I could just get a new stereo, I guess.
>
> I did find a Scosche BT-1200 that has an input, and if the output is
> patched into the line-in on your stereo, calls will come through that.
> But I'm a cheap SOB; I paid $25 for each of the Motorolas...
>
> Anybody have a car kit that does what I want? There are others out there,
> but they require ISO connectors that neither my car nor stereo have....



Followup...wound up getting a Clarion CZ500 from eBay. Just waiting for it
to get here...

Built-in BT and an add-on mic. Let's see what happens...


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