My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all their
phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950). Assuming
the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only", and assuming
the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question, is it possible
for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate location? I'm
assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact that the phone is
turned ON.
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all their
> phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950). Assuming
> the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only", and assuming
> the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question, is it possible
> for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate location? I'm
> assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact that the phone is
> turned ON.
>
>
Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end users:
"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950).
>> Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only",
>> and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question,
>> is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate
>> location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact
>> that the phone is turned ON.
> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>
> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>
> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end users:
>
> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the nearest
antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on the
reading list.
"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950).
>>> Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only",
>>> and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question,
>>> is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate
>>> location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact
>>> that the phone is turned ON.
>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
>> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>
>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>
>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end users:
>>
>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>
>
> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
> often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
>
> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the
> nearest antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on
> the reading list.
I was told that Chaperone tracking uses a tower triangulation method that is
more accurate than GPS if multiple towers are in range, and will wprl even
inside a building unlike GPS. True? Don't know.
"Bob La Londe" <nospam@nospam.no> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:iZL0m.6796$Uq5.3628@newsfe23.iad...
>> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>>>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung
>>>> SCH-A950). Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911
>>>> emergency only", and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the
>>>> carrier in question, is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and
>>>> get an approximate location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user,
>>>> other than the fact that the phone is turned ON.
>>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
>>> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>>
>>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>>
>>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end
>>> users:
>>>
>>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>>
>>
>> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
>> often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
>>
>> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the
>> nearest antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on
>> the reading list.
>
> I was told that Chaperone tracking uses a tower triangulation method that
> is more accurate than GPS if multiple towers are in range, and will wprl
> even inside a building unlike GPS. True? Don't know.
It would seem that way, considering the location examples given on the
Verizon site. "Kid leaves schoolyard, you get a text message".
"Bob La Londe" <nospam@nospam.no> wrote in
news:h20701$jjk$1@news.eternal-september.org:
> I was told that Chaperone tracking uses a tower triangulation method
> that is more accurate than GPS if multiple towers are in range, and
> will wprl even inside a building unlike GPS. True? Don't know.
>
>
No, any cheap GPS is a thousand times more accurate than stupid
triangulation from sellphone towers, a patchwork system because GPS
doesn't work inside buildings where it can't see the satellites 16,800
miles away.
If you REALLY care for your son's safety, Spot will give you a spot
device free just for subscribing to their service. It makes accurate
fixes to the spot web server you can keep running, if you like, within
about 3', every 30 minutes, 24/7. No access to spotty-in-the-woods and
no-service-in-the-backcountry-mountains sellphone service is necessary.
Spot transmits to INMARSAT low earth orbit satellites passing over its
position. If you son's group gets into trouble, he simply presses a
button on the little Spot box to call for help, directly through the
satellites to Spot, from anywhere on the planet.
http://www.findmespot.com/en/
I THINK Spot still will give you a Spot device for free. They do
specials every once in a while, but that's not an issue for you now at
this late date. Call them and ask them if the free Spot device special
is still going on. They'll deal in this depression.
Is your son worth $50/year for unlimited service? $7.95/yr is the
Search and Rescue addon and well worth it, if he is...(c;]
I have friends who own a nice pleasure trawler. We track them on Spot
whenever they are at sea by simply logging on to their Spot webpage:
Poor babies are stuck in Marsh Harbor, a Bahamian resort, on their nice
trawler yacht. Don't you feel sorry for them?...hee hee. He's
converting rum into urine by this time a day....a chemical engineer.
AH, HERE IT IS: http://www.findmespot.com/freespot/
Sign up for two years of unlimited Spot service for $99 and the whole
cost of the Spot satellite system for your pocket is REBATED, making it
free. $99 is a bargain for the safety of your son and his party.....
Please don't depend on intermittent sellphone service in some big forest
for your son's ability to call for help. Get Spot free and buy the
Search and Rescue service for a pittance. You'll know EXACTLY, within
about 3 ft, of where he is, every time Spot position reports, 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week. Just tell him to turn it on while they're on the
move. Go see all the neat stuff it does. It really works
fantastic...anywhere on the planet!
--
-----
Larry
If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9C357E5DA90D9noonehomecom@
74.209.131.13:
it
> free. $99 is a bargain for the safety of your son and his party.....
>
Oh, and if you get it, don't forget to post his Spot web address to this
thread so the rest of us can follow along while they're on the hike! I'd
like to watch the hike take place!
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950).
>>> Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only",
>>> and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question,
>>> is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate
>>> location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact
>>> that the phone is turned ON.
>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
>> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>
>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>
>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end users:
>>
>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>
>
> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
> often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
Just out of curiosity why the high level of paranoia? Lots of folks
(including me and possibly you) grew up and went on lots of hikes and
disappeared with our bikes for the day in the summertime without a
monitoring bracelet.
>
> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the nearest
> antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on the
> reading list.
>
>
The cell system needs to register your phone so it knows which tower to
use to contact it.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C357F13B8D69noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9C357E5DA90D9noonehomecom@
> 74.209.131.13:
>
> it
>> free. $99 is a bargain for the safety of your son and his party.....
>>
>
> Oh, and if you get it, don't forget to post his Spot web address to this
> thread so the rest of us can follow along while they're on the hike! I'd
> like to watch the hike take place!
>
> Thanks!
> Larry
That might be tiring to follow. He's taken 30 friends on long hiking trips.
Only two have agreed to go with him again. :-) Our biggest worry isn't about
the woods. Rather, he and his buddy will spend some time walking along route
1 in California. I've reminded him of what he's told me: 98% of drivers are
completely and permanently incompetent for one or more reasons.
"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:h209p6$39s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>>>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung
>>>> SCH-A950). Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911
>>>> emergency only", and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the
>>>> carrier in question, is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and
>>>> get an approximate location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user,
>>>> other than the fact that the phone is turned ON.
>>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
>>> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>>
>>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>>
>>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end
>>> users:
>>>
>>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>>
>>
>> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
>> often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
>
> Just out of curiosity why the high level of paranoia? Lots of folks
> (including me and possibly you) grew up and went on lots of hikes and
> disappeared with our bikes for the day in the summertime without a
> monitoring bracelet.
>
Short answer: Large cats, and stupid handgun laws which prevent people from
having the tools they need.
>> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the
>> nearest antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on
>> the reading list.
> The cell system needs to register your phone so it knows which tower to
> use to contact it.
OK, but I'm not sure that answers the question about periodic contact with
towers.
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and all
>>> their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung SCH-A950).
>>> Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911 emergency only",
>>> and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the carrier in question,
>>> is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone and get an approximate
>>> location? I'm assuming no input from the phone user, other than the fact
>>> that the phone is turned ON.
>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I call
>> them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>
>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>
>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end users:
>>
>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>
>
> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop shows
> often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
>
> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the nearest
> antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next on the
> reading list.
>
>
I think a cell phone MUST send a "here I am" to the tower. Otherwise,
how could you receive an incoming call? It hardly seems practical for
the system to tell every tower in the U.S. that it's looking for you.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C357E5DA90D9noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> "Bob La Londe" <nospam@nospam.no> wrote in
> news:h20701$jjk$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> I was told that Chaperone tracking uses a tower triangulation method
>> that is more accurate than GPS if multiple towers are in range, and
>> will wprl even inside a building unlike GPS. True? Don't know.
>>
>>
>
> No, any cheap GPS is a thousand times more accurate than stupid
> triangulation from sellphone towers, a patchwork system because GPS
> doesn't work inside buildings where it can't see the satellites 16,800
> miles away.
Verizon's location feature uses a combination of "real" GPS and cell tower
location. It's really a "best of both worlds" thing- GPS accuracy outdoors,
and lesser, but better than nothing, accuracy indoors.
>
> If you REALLY care for your son's safety, Spot will give you a spot
> device free just for subscribing to their service. It makes accurate
> fixes to the spot web server you can keep running, if you like, within
> about 3', every 30 minutes, 24/7. No access to spotty-in-the-woods and
> no-service-in-the-backcountry-mountains sellphone service is necessary.
> Spot transmits to INMARSAT low earth orbit satellites passing over its
> position. If you son's group gets into trouble, he simply presses a
> button on the little Spot box to call for help, directly through the
> satellites to Spot, from anywhere on the planet.
>
> http://www.findmespot.com/en/
> I THINK Spot still will give you a Spot device for free. They do
> specials every once in a while, but that's not an issue for you now at
> this late date. Call them and ask them if the free Spot device special
> is still going on. They'll deal in this depression.
>
> Is your son worth $50/year for unlimited service? $7.95/yr is the
> Search and Rescue addon and well worth it, if he is...(c;]
>
> I have friends who own a nice pleasure trawler. We track them on Spot
> whenever they are at sea by simply logging on to their Spot webpage:
>
> http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...pots.jsp?glId=
> 0utTAiadygIUkT4LIXeoYfKADAn2Dkzos
>
> Poor babies are stuck in Marsh Harbor, a Bahamian resort, on their nice
> trawler yacht. Don't you feel sorry for them?...hee hee. He's
> converting rum into urine by this time a day....a chemical engineer.
>
> AH, HERE IT IS:
> http://www.findmespot.com/freespot/
> Sign up for two years of unlimited Spot service for $99 and the whole
> cost of the Spot satellite system for your pocket is REBATED, making it
> free. $99 is a bargain for the safety of your son and his party.....
>
> Please don't depend on intermittent sellphone service in some big forest
> for your son's ability to call for help. Get Spot free and buy the
> Search and Rescue service for a pittance. You'll know EXACTLY, within
> about 3 ft, of where he is, every time Spot position reports, 24 hours a
> day, 7 days a week. Just tell him to turn it on while they're on the
> move. Go see all the neat stuff it does. It really works
> fantastic...anywhere on the planet!
Seems like a cool service, but it's a backpacking trip- they're not visiting
Indiana Jones' Temple of Doom! Whatever happened to the days when an
"emergency camping kit" was a bottle of water purification tablets, a box of
waterproof matches, and a good old-fashioned flare gun ?
Today, it seems amazing that as a race our ancestors managed to crawl out of
the oceans onto the shore without a GPS in one flipper and a cellphone in
the other!
Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:h201g9$irh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> My kid and two friends are going on a 3 week backpacking trip, and
>>>> all their phones have a GPS feature. (My son's phone is a Samsung
>>>> SCH-A950). Assuming the GPS feature has not been switched to "911
>>>> emergency only", and assuming the phone is in an active zone for the
>>>> carrier in question, is it possible for the carrier to ping a phone
>>>> and get an approximate location? I'm assuming no input from the
>>>> phone user, other than the fact that the phone is turned ON.
>>> Sure, no "ping" is involved. But do you have a question like "can I
>>> call them and ask where juniors relative position is"?
>>>
>>> Law enforcement can but don't know if you can.
>>>
>>> VZW actually has a subscription product called "chaperone" for end
>>> users:
>>>
>>> http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?id=fnd_chaperone
>>
>>
>> Our idea is having law enforcement people track the phone. (TV cop
>> shows often exaggerate the possibilities of technology).
>>
>> So, no "ping". Do cell phones regularly make brief contact with the
>> nearest antenna, or something? And thanks for the Chaperone idea. Next
>> on the reading list.
>>
> I think a cell phone MUST send a "here I am" to the tower. Otherwise,
> how could you receive an incoming call? It hardly seems practical for
> the system to tell every tower in the U.S. that it's looking for you.
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:beQ0m.47551$mX2.33092@newsfe05.iad...
>
> Seems like a cool service, but it's a backpacking trip- they're not
> visiting Indiana Jones' Temple of Doom! Whatever happened to the days
> when an "emergency camping kit" was a bottle of water purification
> tablets, a box of waterproof matches, and a good old-fashioned flare gun ?
>
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in
news:beQ0m.47551$mX2.33092@newsfe05.iad:
> Seems like a cool service, but it's a backpacking trip- they're not
> visiting Indiana Jones' Temple of Doom! Whatever happened to the days
> when an "emergency camping kit" was a bottle of water purification
> tablets, a box of waterproof matches, and a good old-fashioned flare
> gun ?
The flare gun may be one way to turn even more of California into ashes.
Real smart, Todd, real smart.
ONE broken ankle, one pulled tendon, one trip over the side of a cliff
somewhere there's no stupid sellphone signal in the boondocks of the
California mountains and that $99/year looks like a blessing.
I can't believe you value human life so little as to want, like some
goddamned mullah in Iran, to go back into the stone age of a signal fire
when it's just so cheap to provide REAL, dependable emergency
communications to such a device as Spot.
>
> Today, it seems amazing that as a race our ancestors managed to crawl
> out of the oceans onto the shore without a GPS in one flipper and a
> cellphone in the other!
>
>
You need to move to Afghanistan or Somalia. They live like you think we
all should....
At 25 Jun 2009 16:51:38 -0400 JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > Seems like a cool service, but it's a backpacking trip- they're not
> > visiting Indiana Jones' Temple of Doom! Whatever happened to the days
> > when an "emergency camping kit" was a bottle of water purification
> > tablets, a box of waterproof matches, and a good old-fashioned flare
gun ?
> >
>
>
> You don't have kids.
Three, in fact. I don't, however, have teenagers yet.
I find I'm pretty lax compared to other parents in my peer group, but
tighter than my parents' generation was. (My kids wear seat belts, for
example, rather than sliding around the "wayback" of the station wagon
hoping for sudden turns like we did!)
I was never the type, for example, to lock the toilets shut, or cover
electrical outlets with those stupid plastic clips. (My kids hopefully
won't learn about electricity like I did- by bending a pipe-cleaner into a
"U", shoving it in an outlet and blowing a circuit breaker!)
At 26 Jun 2009 01:58:42 +0000 Larry wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspam
> > Seems like a cool service, but it's a backpacking trip- they're not
> > visiting Indiana Jones' Temple of Doom! Whatever happened to the days
> > when an "emergency camping kit" was a bottle of water purification
> > tablets, a box of waterproof matches, and a good old-fashioned flare
> > gun ?
>
> The flare gun may be one way to turn even more of California into ashes.
> Real smart, Todd, real smart.
>
> ONE broken ankle, one pulled tendon, one trip over the side of a cliff
> somewhere there's no stupid sellphone signal in the boondocks of the
> California mountains and that $99/year looks like a blessing.
"The boondocks of the California Mountains?" There are a few places in
California whee you aren't within an hour or two's walk of cell service,
but not that many!
> I can't believe you value human life so little as to want, like some
> goddamned mullah in Iran, to go back into the stone age of a signal fire
> when it's just so cheap to provide REAL, dependable emergency
> communications to such a device as Spot.
Oh, I forgot- once a product get the "Bag Phone Larry Seal Of Approval (tm)
" like Skype, Knology Cable, Waffle House Raisin Toast, Nokia N800 web
tablets, Cricket PCS, and now, apparently "Spot", any one who doesn't use
it is a fool.
I said it looked like a neat service. Personally, I'd like to have seen
some form of acknowledgement on it so the user at least got a "beep" or a
blinking light or something as feedback to let them know the message was
received.
> > Today, it seems amazing that as a race our ancestors managed to crawl
> > out of the oceans onto the shore without a GPS in one flipper and a
> > cellphone in the other!
> >
> >
>
> You need to move to Afghanistan or Somalia. They live like you think we
> all should....
Geez, Lar, look at the smilies "". I was more lamenting times gone by
than suggesting being a luddite!
So, apparently I'm an a--hole for not embracing a very limited, but
probably effective service. I could ask why should you cheapout with a
"Spot" when you could rent a satellite phone for $50/week and actually be
able to call for help AND describe the nature of the problem?
Or, crazy idea, check the cell carrier coverage map to see if they'll
actually be out of coverage range before resorting to anything besides the
cell phone.
My wife is taking my 7 year-old on a Mother-Daughter Girl Scout camping
trip this weekend up in Heck-n-gone, Colorado, somewhere, in one of those
areas that don't have real addresses- just descriptions like "at the gravel
road just past the first creek you see after mile marker 372."
I've already checked the maps, and both her T-Mo iPhone and Sprint
Blackberry phone will be SOL in that part of Colorado. Before running to
REI or Cabela's to buy a Spot, or calling in a favor with a friend at
Lockheed Martin to get NASA to point the Hubble at my family this weekend,
I simply checked the rest of the cellular websites, found Verizon has
spotty coverage in that area, and will send my prepaid PagePlus (Verizon
reseller) phone with her. It's a seven year old Windows Mobile phone with
9.6k internet connectivity. A weekend with that museum piece and she'll
appreciate her iPhone even more when she gets back!
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in
news:Q9_0m.36562$Ig.31915@newsfe14.iad:
> Oh, I forgot- once a product get the "Bag Phone Larry Seal Of Approval
> (tm) " like Skype, Knology Cable, Waffle House Raisin Toast, Nokia
> N800 web tablets, Cricket PCS, and now, apparently "Spot", any one who
> doesn't use it is a fool.
>
>
Why do you read what I type, then? Why not just fuck off?
--
-----
Larry
If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
In article <Xns9C367A390281Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, noone@home.com
says...
>
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in
> news:Q9_0m.36562$Ig.31915@newsfe14.iad:
>
> > Oh, I forgot- once a product get the "Bag Phone Larry Seal Of Approval
> > (tm) " like Skype, Knology Cable, Waffle House Raisin Toast, Nokia
> > N800 web tablets, Cricket PCS, and now, apparently "Spot", any one who
> > doesn't use it is a fool.
> >
> >
>
> Why do you read what I type, then? Why not just fuck off?
Gettin' a little testy there, Larry?
Heard about your governor, by the way. Niiiice guy
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C367A390281Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in
> news:Q9_0m.36562$Ig.31915@newsfe14.iad:
>
>> Oh, I forgot- once a product get the "Bag Phone Larry Seal Of Approval
>> (tm) " like Skype, Knology Cable, Waffle House Raisin Toast, Nokia
>> N800 web tablets, Cricket PCS, and now, apparently "Spot", any one who
>> doesn't use it is a fool.
>>
>>
>
> Why do you read what I type, then? Why not just fuck off?
Because you're occasionally entertaining when you're not being offensive.
Unfortunately, the latter posts seem to be on the rise, while the former are
dropping off.
Todd Allcock wrote:
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> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C367A390281Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in
>> news:Q9_0m.36562$Ig.31915@newsfe14.iad:
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>>> Oh, I forgot- once a product get the "Bag Phone Larry Seal Of Approval
>>> (tm) " like Skype, Knology Cable, Waffle House Raisin Toast, Nokia
>>> N800 web tablets, Cricket PCS, and now, apparently "Spot", any one who
>>> doesn't use it is a fool.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why do you read what I type, then? Why not just fuck off?
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> Because you're occasionally entertaining when you're not being
> offensive. Unfortunately, the latter posts seem to be on the rise, while
> the former are dropping off.
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Yea, its cheap entertainment and also a little mystery as to what
torqued him so badly that he is such a total conspiracy nut and seems to
pretty much hate everything (unless its free).
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