Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
customer. Bob
kroger Bobb wrote:
> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
> customer. Bob
>
Well, you need to keep in mind that they are illegal in most countries....
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:04 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
wrote:
>Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
>that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>customer. Bob
"kroger Bobb" <bones46@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
> customer. Bob
>
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:04 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
> wrote:
>
>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
>> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>> customer. Bob
>
> You mean the ones that do stuff like this?
>
> http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind..._2&id=cellular
>
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:15:42 -0500, Jim Higgins
<gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:04 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
>>> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>>> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>>> customer. Bob
>>
>> You mean the ones that do stuff like this?
>>
>> http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind..._2&id=cellular
>>
>
>Think of it as enforced courtesy.
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:15:42 -0500, Jim Higgins
> <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:04 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld device
>>>> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>>>> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>>>> customer. Bob
>>> You mean the ones that do stuff like this?
>>>
>>> http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind..._2&id=cellular
>>>
>> Think of it as enforced courtesy.
>
> Think of it as not your place to do.
>
Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
Jon wrote:
> The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:15:42 -0500, Jim Higgins
>> <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:04 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld
>>>>> device
>>>>> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>>>>> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much.
>>>>> Anybody
>>>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>>>>> customer. Bob
>>>> You mean the ones that do stuff like this?
>>>>
>>>> http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind..._2&id=cellular
>>>>
>>> Think of it as enforced courtesy.
>>
>> Think of it as not your place to do.
>>
> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
have asked politely for customers to not use cell phones and after
putting up with the rude SOBs have set up whatever so that cell phones
will not work on the premises.
Possibly it's screening rather than jamming?
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XS11E wrote:
> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
>
> So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
> have asked politely for customers to not use cell phones and after
> putting up with the rude SOBs have set up whatever so that cell phones
> will not work on the premises.
>
> Possibly it's screening rather than jamming?
>
>
Well they can ask for the customers to put away cell phones, but if they
attempt to stop calls from coming or going, they are breaking the law.
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in
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> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
>
> So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
> have asked politely for customers to not use cell phones and after
> putting up with the rude SOBs have set up whatever so that cell phones
> will not work on the premises.
>
> Possibly it's screening rather than jamming?
>
>
It is screening. Passive jamming, through the use of architectural
elements, is legal. There are products (specialty wire meshes and paints
come right to mind) that effectively block the signal from entering the
premises.
Scott wrote:
> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in
> news:Xns99E7D102094B2xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184:
>
>> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
>> So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
>> have asked politely for customers to not use cell phones and after
>> putting up with the rude SOBs have set up whatever so that cell phones
>> will not work on the premises.
>>
>> Possibly it's screening rather than jamming?
>>
>>
>
> It is screening. Passive jamming, through the use of architectural
> elements, is legal. There are products (specialty wire meshes and paints
> come right to mind) that effectively block the signal from entering the
> premises.
Yea, architectural elements are legal (if they building was built to not
allow cell phones to get a signal, they why do they ask people to put
them away anyway?), but if ones buys an electronic device that stops
calls, then that is illegal.
Pegleg wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:25:22 -0500, Jim Higgins <gordian238@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a handheld
>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>> that disables signals from another phone and causes the other phone to
>>>>>>> stop working. I saw some on websites for sale but cost too much.
>>>>>>> Anybody
>>>>>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a Verizon
>>>>>>> customer. Bob
>
>>>> Think of it as not your place to do.
>
> Break down and spend the bucks...they work!
They work, but they are not legal
> Yea, architectural elements are legal (if they building was built
> to not allow cell phones to get a signal, they why do they ask
> people to put them away anyway?)
They did, it didn't work, they don't ask any more, they just tell them
their phone will not work on the premises. Ditto some local churches,
etc.
I'm all for it.
It's too bad that common courtesy has to be forced on people but that's
the way of the world today. <sigh>
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> Pegleg wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:25:22 -0500, Jim Higgins
>> <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a
>>>>>>>> handheld device that disables signals from another phone
>>>>>>>> and causes the other phone to stop working. I saw some on
>>>>>>>> websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>>>>>>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a
>>>>>>>> Verizon customer. Bob
>>
>>>>> Think of it as not your place to do.
>>
>> Break down and spend the bucks...they work!
> They work, but they are not legal
Neither is tearing the phone out of someone's hand and smashing it but
it's been done. You'll walk if you can find a judge who's ever had a
cellphone go off in his/her courtroom.
Most effective enforcement I heard of was a real estate school I
attended, the instructor greeted the class, introduced himself and then
said, "We're going to take our first break now, it'll be 15 minutes and
during that time you'll all go outside, call your office and tell them
your phone or pager is turned off for the duration of the class. Then
turn OFF your phone or pager, if you get a call or page, ring or
vibrate, during class you'll be asked to leave, you will NOT be allowed
back in and there will be NO refund of the fees you've paid."
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XS11E wrote:
> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>> Pegleg wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:25:22 -0500, Jim Higgins
>>> <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anybody ever heard of cell phone jammers? This is a
>>>>>>>>> handheld device that disables signals from another phone
>>>>>>>>> and causes the other phone to stop working. I saw some on
>>>>>>>>> websites for sale but cost too much. Anybody
>>>>>>>>> know how to find one at a real cheap price? And I am a
>>>>>>>>> Verizon customer. Bob
>>>>>> Think of it as not your place to do.
>>> Break down and spend the bucks...they work!
>> They work, but they are not legal
>
> Neither is tearing the phone out of someone's hand and smashing it but
> it's been done.
Actually, if you did that to someone, you could sue them for that
>You'll walk if you can find a judge who's ever had a
> cellphone go off in his/her courtroom.
They might go off, but the person either
A. Puts it on silent
B. Walks out of the room to talk
C. If he/she talks inside the room, will get thrown out by judge
> Most effective enforcement I heard of was a real estate school I
> attended, the instructor greeted the class, introduced himself and then
> said, "We're going to take our first break now, it'll be 15 minutes and
> during that time you'll all go outside, call your office and tell them
> your phone or pager is turned off for the duration of the class. Then
> turn OFF your phone or pager, if you get a call or page, ring or
> vibrate, during class you'll be asked to leave, you will NOT be allowed
> back in and there will be NO refund of the fees you've paid."
>
See? Maybe cell phone jammers are not needed, just ask them to turn it off.
It's a bit like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. So, if someone
comes in with a gun and starts shooting the place up, it's nice to know that
911 won't work. (This happened at a busy restaurant two miles from where I
live... so, it's not hypothetical. In that case, someone cowering in a
corner was able to call 911, and the police were there within 5 minutes...
only two people were killed. Had they employed passive jamming, I wonder how
many more might've been killed... the shooter had two guns and a lot of
ammo.)
"Scott" <how.do@you.do> wrote in message
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> It is screening. Passive jamming, through the use of architectural
> elements, is legal. There are products (specialty wire meshes and paints
> come right to mind) that effectively block the signal from entering the
> premises.
"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
>
> So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
There have been a lot of schools that have wanted to place cell phone
jammers to keep the stupid kids off of their phones during the school day
but the ACLU files lawsuits.
The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
Me too but if people can't observe basic courtesy when using a cell
phone (and they can't) then the BIG solution may be necessary and
that's banning all ownership, sales and manufacturing of cell phones
and the shutting down of all cell phone towers. Cell phones are handy
in emergencies but we lived without them for years and we may have to
again if they become more of a problem than a benefit and.... they
already have.
I'm completely on your side.
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:07:17 -0600, "LHA" <nobody@nobody1.com1> wrote:
>
>"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns99E7D102094B2xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173 .184...
>> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Or think of it as a way for you to pay to get jail time
>>
>> So how do local restaurants do it legally? There are several here that
>
>There have been a lot of schools that have wanted to place cell phone
>jammers to keep the stupid kids off of their phones during the school day
>but the ACLU files lawsuits.
>
The ACLU actions have been regarding the schools confiscating and
searching through students' phones, not for the use of electronic
jamming, which federal law already prohibits.
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:43:37 -0800, bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb)
wrote:
>The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
>real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
>phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
>with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
>group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
>will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
I think you are overreacting. No one here is advocating discourtesy,
just saying no one has the right to break the law to "enforce" it.
In article <2619-473A8B09-95@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com>, bones46
@webtv.net says...
> The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
> real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
> phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
> with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
> group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
> will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
>
>
I realize you say you "work in retail" but why not politely let them
know it's rude. As in, "I can see you're busy; let me know when you're
done." Or, simply walk away a few steps. Anybody insensitive enough to
do what you're talking about probably won't be sharp enough to be
insulted...
> I realize you say you "work in retail" but why not politely let them
> know it's rude. As in, "I can see you're busy; let me know when you're
> done." Or, simply walk away a few steps. Anybody insensitive enough to
> do what you're talking about probably won't be sharp enough to be
> insulted...
>
> Personally, I don't tolerate it.
Agreed. I've gotten great service from clerks when the person before was
yammering away on their phone while being served. I make it a point to
mention how rude it was for the customer to treat them that way. Often loud
enough for the crass idiot to overhear. Only once was the jackass stupid
enough to try to return a comment. I simply turned to the line and asked
them if they all thought it was rude and, every single one of them nodded in
agreement; several laughing out loud.
I don't buy the argument of crime prevention. The infintesimially small
odds of that occurring don't justify the significant amount of rudeness.
That and powering your phone back up is trivially simple and short. If
you've got enough time to make a call then "odds are" you've got enough time
to get it powered back up first. I'm guessing at some point the criminals
will just start carrying the cell phone jammers themselves.
Meanwhile, do everyone a favor and work with the people you know to
reinforce the valve of being polite with your cell phone. Stop being so
fucking self-centered and THINK of others for a change.
kroger Bobb wrote:
> The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
> real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
> phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
> with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
> group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
> will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
>
Unfortunately some people think that cellphones give then a special
dispensation to be rude and mannerless.
I don't think I have ever read someone in this group claiming it was a
good thing.
XS11E wrote:
> bones46@webtv.net (kroger Bobb) wrote:
>
>> Yes, I have a cell phone.
>
> Me too but if people can't observe basic courtesy when using a cell
> phone (and they can't) then the BIG solution may be necessary and
> that's banning all ownership, sales and manufacturing of cell phones
> and the shutting down of all cell phone towers. Cell phones are handy
> in emergencies but we lived without them for years and we may have to
> again if they become more of a problem than a benefit and.... they
> already have.
>
> I'm completely on your side.
>
>
Wouldn't that be like advocating we should shut down the highways
because of the rude people driving their personal 5 ton trucks who drive
2 inches away from you, cut you off or don't understand the meaning of a
yield sign?
Unfortunately we have become a me generation where lots of people have
forgotten their are other people around them who don't want to put up
with rude and crude behavior. I don't know the answer.
Drumstick wrote:
> In article <2619-473A8B09-95@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com>, bones46
> @webtv.net says...
>> The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
>> real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
>> phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
>> with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
>> group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
>> will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
>>
>>
>
> I realize you say you "work in retail" but why not politely let them
> know it's rude. As in, "I can see you're busy; let me know when you're
> done." Or, simply walk away a few steps. Anybody insensitive enough to
> do what you're talking about probably won't be sharp enough to be
> insulted...
>
> Personally, I don't tolerate it.
>
> Drum--
I agree with you but if he works in a big box store and tried that he
would be marched outside and thrown under the bus because the self
centered person he said it to would march over to the manager and
complain.
"kroger Bobb" <bones46@webtv.net> wrote in message news:2619-473A8B09-95@baytvnwsxa001.msntv.msn.com...
> The reason I started this topic was because people are always talking
> real loud in my face and Im getting sick of it!! Obviously you cell
> phone people dont get it!!! I work in retail and am constantly dealing
> with rude and loud customers. Sounds like people like in this discussion
> group love those kind of people. I dont!! When I get a phone jammer I
> will be on top of the world. Yes, I have a cell phone.
So, you have a cell phone? Are you part of the problem? No? Perhaps
it isn't the use of cell phones in general, but rather, the inappropriate use
of cell phones. Presumably you would agree that there are many scenarios
in which it is reasonable for a customer to receive a phone call in a retail
setting. Maybe a loved one got in a car accident, an ill friend has taken a
turn for the worst... whatever. Jamming cell phones is a radical action
which could very well have dire consequences for some people and thus
shouldn't be taken lightly. It would affect even those who present no
problem... those whose phones are on vibrate and who simply get text
messages or who don't respond to the call until after they are out of the
store.
It seems to me that if it is a retail setting... particularly if you have authority
in that retail setting... you could simply establish & post a no cell phone
use policy and then ask any "rude chatters" to immediately end the call
or leave the store. If they don't comply, have security escort them out.
> I work in retail and am constantly dealing
> with rude and loud customers.
Coupla things...
First, get used to dealing with rude customers if you're in retail. They
aren't gonna go away (cell-phone or not).
Second, it may surprise you to know that most retail outfits encourage
cell-phone use to increase sales. Things like "Honey, what color did you say
you wanted?", or, "How many new Corvettes did you want me to buy today
dear"?
This is the real world. If you have a abusive/rude customer, take it up with
that customer, not everyone who visits your establishment.
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