I purchased a computer online on 12/14/2007. I live in Alaska but
wanted my daughter to pick up the computer and software in Wayne, New
Jersey. My daughter teaches school in New Jersey and needed the
computer before the weekend so I thought she could pick it up at the
store. I called Circuit City and got someone in manila (I asked) and
explained the situation. They said it would be up to the store. So I
tried to call the store and after going through about 6 of those press
this number or that I finally got someone that said to call back and
press 0 for customer service. I called back and pressed 0 and got
some girl that put me on hold. I called back again and asked for the
store manager and again was put on hold. I called my daughter in New
Jersey and she said her Mom lived right next to the store and she
would try to pick up the computer. So the next day (Saturday) I
called the store five times and five times customer service placed me
on hold or hung up. My x-wife was at the store at the time and she
called me and said there was no way she could pick up the computer and
that I would have to cancel the order and wire her the money. So I
cancelled the order and wired her $1400 using Western Union. She
bought the computer using the very same order that I had done online.
The store tried to charge her $29 instead of the $19 on the order for
the wireless mouse and they left the Microsoft Office $149 software
out of the bag and she caught it so they then said they had forgotten
the software.
Now the bummer. The original order was paid for by debit card and the
money was given to Circuit City as shown in my online bank record. It
now has been 7 days and they still have my money for the canceled
order. I called yesterday and again got some guy in Manila who said
the money for the canceled order would not go back into my bank
account for 2 to 5 business days and that they still have until
tomorrow, Friday to put the money back in. Funny how they can
immediately take the money, but have to wait a week to put the money
back. Do Not Buy From Circuit City! I making this post all over the
Internet to teach these bums a lesson.
> Do Not Buy From Circuit City! I making this post all over the
> Internet to teach these bums a lesson.
>
http://www.circuitcitysucks.net/
I met and had a great conversation with the guy who used to own this
domain. It HAD his story about his defective big-screen TV with CC's
extended warranty plan they wouldn't fix. His name is Dean Johnson from
Winston-Salem, NC. You can still read about him here: http://www.kickthefog.com/kick_some_page_2.htm
Read 3) on this page...(c;
Used car dealers look like angels.....really!
Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!
On 2007-12-20, Gerald Newton <electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
> Now the bummer. The original order was paid for by debit card and the
> money was given to Circuit City as shown in my online bank record. It
> now has been 7 days and they still have my money for the canceled
> order. I
Call your bank. If they're worth anything at all, after you explain the
situation, they'll credit you while going after Circuit City for the money.
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:16:46 +0000 (UTC), Steve Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>On 2007-12-20, Gerald Newton <electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
>> Now the bummer. The original order was paid for by debit card and the
>> money was given to Circuit City as shown in my online bank record. It
>> now has been 7 days and they still have my money for the canceled
>> order. I
>
>Call your bank. If they're worth anything at all, after you explain the
>situation, they'll credit you while going after Circuit City for the money.
He doesn't have his facts straight. First, he ordered it on 12/14, so
it's only been six days, not seven. That also means he ordered it
last Friday, and the actual debit (not the hold for the $$) probably
didn't hit his bank until early this week. So technically, he was
asking CC to return money they probably didn't even have yet. He also
said he was told they had 2 to 5 business days to return the money to
his account, and that 5th day isn't until tomorrow. I think he ought
to at least give CC a chance to break their word before complaining
about it all.
On 2007-12-21, The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote:
> He doesn't have his facts straight. First, he ordered it on 12/14, so
> it's only been six days, not seven. That also means he ordered it
> last Friday, and the actual debit (not the hold for the $$) probably
> didn't hit his bank until early this week. So technically, he was
> asking CC to return money they probably didn't even have yet. He also
> said he was told they had 2 to 5 business days to return the money to
> his account, and that 5th day isn't until tomorrow. I think he ought
> to at least give CC a chance to break their word before complaining
> about it all.
Gerald Newton wrote:
Do Not Buy From Circuit City! I making this post all over the
> Internet to teach these bums a lesson.
I figured that out years ago. Lousy customer service. I bought my first
XM Roady there in 2003 because they were, at the time the only one
carrying it. When it broke, they would not even talk to me even though
it was still under warranty. They made me mail it someplace which was
difficult as we were traveling in our RV for the entire summer.
I finally got the replacement which did not come with a cassette adapter
and the lighter plug thing broke. We went into Best Buy to buy a new
lighter thing and they replaced the entire Roady and lighter thing for
us --- no charge!
Because of Best Buy's customer service we bought our 55" HD TV from them
as well as a HD DVD and we send the grandchildren holiday gift
certificates from there every year.
When there are options, I'll opt for the company that treats me nicely. JMHO
Merry Christmas.
Janet
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
On 2007-12-21, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>>Call your bank. If they're worth anything at all, after you explain the
>>situation, they'll credit you while going after Circuit City for the money.
>
> Quite doubtful! The bank will take the position that the issue is
> between you and CC. Since it was a debit (basically cash) transaction
> it is up to CC to issue a refund or credit.
Wrong: it's not a cash transaction, not even close, and the banks I use will
look into a dispute on a debit card if you file a dispute, just like they will
with credit cards.
The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:la0mm399jc3bj8dg5kce1djeo20ga9cp0v@4ax.com:
> Oh, I see. You're pissed off at some company because of a mistake you
> made so you're going to punish others who had nothing to do with your
> issue.
>
>
Go General, Go! Blow it off, boy! You can do better than this. Tell us
how you REALLY FEEL! We can take it!......(c;
Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:41:23 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
>news:la0mm399jc3bj8dg5kce1djeo20ga9cp0v@4ax.com :
>
>> Oh, I see. You're pissed off at some company because of a mistake you
>> made so you're going to punish others who had nothing to do with your
>> issue.
>>
>>
>
>Go General, Go! Blow it off, boy! You can do better than this. Tell us
>how you REALLY FEEL! We can take it!......(c;
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:28:01 -0800 (PST), Gerald Newton
<electrician@electrician2.com> wrote:
> Do Not Buy From Circuit City! I making this post all over the
>Internet to teach these bums a lesson.
And you'll make just as much of an ass of yourself as you did here.
Your story is entirely unsympathetic, as you clearly don't know the
basic principals of commerce.
When you purchase merchandise on the phone with a credit card, you
must present the card when you pick it up in person.
"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:slrnfmmcsu.c29.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net.. .
> On 2007-12-21, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
>>>Call your bank. If they're worth anything at all, after you explain the
>>>situation, they'll credit you while going after Circuit City for the
>>>money.
>>
>> Quite doubtful! The bank will take the position that the issue is
>> between you and CC. Since it was a debit (basically cash) transaction
>> it is up to CC to issue a refund or credit.
>
> Wrong: it's not a cash transaction, not even close, and the banks I use
> will
> look into a dispute on a debit card if you file a dispute, just like they
> will
> with credit cards.
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
> Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
>
Yep Banks will treat those Debit/Credit/ATM Bank cards the same way. They
normally give you a "charge back" of the cost and they can intervene with
the merchant. Money talks...especially when the consumer has the money back
into their account.
The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:9mkmm3h1h3sei7utnjudbvd8faat6rlqmi@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:41:23 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
>>news:la0mm399jc3bj8dg5kce1djeo20ga9cp0v@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> Oh, I see. You're pissed off at some company because of a mistake
>>> you made so you're going to punish others who had nothing to do with
>>> your issue.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Go General, Go! Blow it off, boy! You can do better than this. Tell
>>us how you REALLY FEEL! We can take it!......(c;
>
> Go fornicate yourself with an iron stick.
>
>
Let 'er Rip! BP over 250 yet? Try harder!
Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand shops
crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas, Undersecretary
of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:12:36 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>> Go fornicate yourself with an iron stick.
>>
>>
>
>Let 'er Rip! BP over 250 yet? Try harder!
No, my BP never gets a few points higher than 120/80, unlike your
triple chin ass. Any dumbass can come into this group posting a sob
story and you're right there, cheering them on, as long as it involves
some 'evil corporation'. Have you even check out this Gerald
character's posting history? He bitches and moans about every little
nothing. In fact, one could easily say he's Alaska's version of you.
So, do you have a grotesquely fat, obnoxious brother living in Alaska?
The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:mn1om3hsb5uclrk89qsd3ohupif01c1j7b@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:12:36 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>> Go fornicate yourself with an iron stick.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Let 'er Rip! BP over 250 yet? Try harder!
>
> No, my BP never gets a few points higher than 120/80, unlike your
> triple chin ass. Any dumbass can come into this group posting a
sob
> story and you're right there, cheering them on, as long as it
involves
> some 'evil corporation'. Have you even check out this Gerald
> character's posting history? He bitches and moans about every
little
> nothing. In fact, one could easily say he's Alaska's version of
you.
> So, do you have a grotesquely fat, obnoxious brother living in
Alaska?
>
>
WOW! Still goin' strong! I can hear your rantings clean down to
Charleston!
Curse and name call like a redneck kid some more, homeboy...
Let's hear it!
Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand
shops crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas,
Undersecretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I
use!
On 2007-12-21, The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote:
>>Curse and name call like a redneck kid some more, homeboy...
>
> Yet every time the word "redneck" (along with the words "racist" and
> "bigot") comes up in this group, it invariably is in reference to you.
>
> Go figure.
Larry has called me names more often (generally unprovoked) than you've called
him names...
"Gerald Newton" <electrician@electrician2.com> wrote in message
news:4973d027-633f-4af5-88b3-c09dd7ce091c@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>I purchased a computer online on 12/14/2007. I live in Alaska but
> wanted my daughter to pick up the computer and software in Wayne, New
> Jersey. My daughter teaches school in New Jersey and needed the
> computer before the weekend so I thought she could pick it up at the
> store. I called Circuit City and got someone in manila (I asked) and
> explained the situation. They said it would be up to the store. So I
> tried to call the store and after going through about 6 of those press
> this number or that I finally got someone that said to call back and
> press 0 for customer service. I called back and pressed 0 and got
> some girl that put me on hold. I called back again and asked for the
> store manager and again was put on hold. I called my daughter in New
> Jersey and she said her Mom lived right next to the store and she
> would try to pick up the computer. So the next day (Saturday) I
> called the store five times and five times customer service placed me
> on hold or hung up. My x-wife was at the store at the time and she
> called me and said there was no way she could pick up the computer and
> that I would have to cancel the order and wire her the money. So I
> cancelled the order and wired her $1400 using Western Union. She
> bought the computer using the very same order that I had done online.
> The store tried to charge her $29 instead of the $19 on the order for
> the wireless mouse and they left the Microsoft Office $149 software
> out of the bag and she caught it so they then said they had forgotten
> the software.
> Now the bummer. The original order was paid for by debit card and the
> money was given to Circuit City as shown in my online bank record. It
> now has been 7 days and they still have my money for the canceled
> order. I called yesterday and again got some guy in Manila who said
> the money for the canceled order would not go back into my bank
> account for 2 to 5 business days and that they still have until
> tomorrow, Friday to put the money back in. Funny how they can
> immediately take the money, but have to wait a week to put the money
> back. Do Not Buy From Circuit City! I making this post all over the
> Internet to teach these bums a lesson.
>
Well, get over it. Since so many consumers today feel "price" is the
singular most important issue in purchasing, and as we see mom n pop stores
fall to the wayside overrun by huge chain conglomerates promoting "price"
over "service" as their #1 feature, you can expect to see more and more of
this happening to you.
In my major metropolitan neighborhood we can no longer find the friendly
neighborhood electronics store, hardware store, or pharmacy, and music
stores and clothing stores are becoming rarer and rarer. I'm sure many other
sectors are heading the same way.
We're all to blame and we'll take the hit together.
Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buyfrom Circuit City
Gerald now see what you have done by your post!
CC may end up going the way pf CompUSA.
Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report
By Andria Cheng, MarketWatch
Last update: 4:27 p.m. EST Dec. 21, 2007Print E-mail RSS Disable Live
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Circuit City Stores Inc. on Friday saw its
shares take their biggest plunge in five years after the company
posted a wider-than-expected third-quarter loss from lower sales and
price cuts on flat-panel televisions.
In a sign of continuing struggle and market share loss, the No. 2 U.S.
electronics chainalso said it may post an unexpected fourth-quarter
loss. Fourth quarter is usually when many retailers, including
electronics chains, reaped their biggest profit for the year.
Shares tumbled $1.91, or 29%, to $4.75, their biggest decline since
February 2002.
Circuit City's net loss widened to $207.3 million, or $1.26 a share,
from $20.4 million, or 12 cents a share, a year earlier. Sales in the
quarter ended Nov. 30 fell to $2.94 billion from $3.06 billion, the
Richmond, Va.-based company said.
Excluding a valuation allowance charge of 62 cents a share, Circuit
City would have lost 64 cents. On that basis, analysts, on average,
estimated a loss of 31 cents a share on sales of $3 billion, according
to Thomson Financial.
Sales at stores open at least a year declined 5.6% after lower sales
of traditional tube and projection televisions, camcorders and DVD
players. The company's aggressive Black Friday promotions, while
driving sales and traffic on the day after Thanksgiving, could not be
an ongoing strategy, analysts said. Profit also was hurt by price cuts
on flat-panel televisions and weakness in sales of its more profitable
warranty services.
As part of its strategy to improve results, Circuit City said next
year, it's opening as many as 60 The City, its new store concept, to
help bolster demand and improve customer experience. See full story.
'Best Buy is nimble and responsive. You just don't see that in Circuit
City.'
-- Stacy Widlitz, Pali Research
Circuit City has lost traffic and sales to larger rival Best Buy
Co. ) , which this week raised its full-year profit forecast after
reporting a better than expected 52% rise in its third-quarter profit,
analysts said.
"It's pretty shocking they are not going to make money in the fourth
quarter," said Pali Research analyst Stacey Widlitz, who said the
expected loss in the fourth-quarter would be Circuit City's first in
at least five years. "It's a mess. Best Buy is nimble and responsive.
You just don't see that in Circuit City."
Assuming current sales and margin trends continue for the rest of the
year, Circuit City expects a "modest loss" from continuing operations
before income taxes for the fourth quarter. Analysts had been
estimating a profit of 56 cents a share for the quarter, according to
Thomson Financial.
"There's progress being made, but frankly, with an overabundance of
caution on my part," said Chief Financial Officer Bruce Besanko on a
conference call with analysts.
The company said it would slow the rate of change in its business
after its announcement in March to eliminate 3,400 highly paid workers
who investors said were better at pushing higher margin sales and
services.
"We are very dissatisfied with our third-quarter results," said Chief
Executive Philip Schoonover in a statement. The company's problems
"are primarily self-induced and are within our control to improve."
While Best Buy opened up more registers when store managers noticed a
big line, Circuit City would have just one register open even if there
was a line of customers waiting, Widlitz noted from her store tours.
Circuit City was also late compared to Best Buy to have a standard
procedure to train its employees on how to sell higher-margin warranty
services, she said.
Gross margins, or the percentage of sales left after subtracting the
cost of goods sold, narrowed to 19.1% from 22.1%, also missing
analysts' estimates.
U.S. extended warranty sales fell to 2.4% of U.S. segment sales from
3.6% a year earlier.
Comparable-store sales, a retail industry performance measure that
excludes results from new and closed locations, dropped 5.8% in the
U.S., after declines also in desktop computers. They fell 1.1%
excluding the impact of currency translations in the international
markets.
Circuit City said in a regulatory filing Wednesday that its board
approved a special cash retention award program for its top executives
including Chief Financial Officer Bruce Besanko and a long-term
incentive plan for CEO Schoonover and other top executives.
"It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
for its rank and file employees instead.
> Circuit City said in a regulatory filing Wednesday that its board
> approved a special cash retention award program for its top executives
> including Chief Financial Officer Bruce Besanko and a long-term
> incentive plan for CEO Schoonover and other top executives.
> "It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
> Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
> on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
> for its rank and file employees instead.
>
Right THERE is the big mistake......
CC used to have all sales staff on commission. They'd follow you around
and SELL you something and do everything they could to keep you from
bringing it back, including swapping out your bad one for a new one
without the corporate bull$hit.
That changed when they moved from the old profitable store to the new one
across from the mall. Nobody cares if you buy or not, now. Their pay is
fixed. Who gives a $hit?
And they do the STUPIDEST things....let Verizon sell the phones...we'll
rent them floor space and stop selling phones entirely....STUPIDS.
Let's sell STUPID products:
USB record players
100 different landline phones
The same Communist (Haier) little fridges for $150 that Home Depot sells
for $70.
$30 memory cards for $90....a whole wall full of way overpriced memory
cards. If buy.com sells a 4GB card for $25, wonder what wholesale at CC
is?....$10, $8?
25 types of over $100 tiny computer speakers noone wants.
Blue computer fans?
Blue computer lights?
25 DVD-R for $59?
The stores are only partly filled with the dumbest stuff noone
wants....at outrageous prices...and little turnover.
CC's terrible history of service when it's broken on their extended
warranty plan is the stuff webpages are made of.....
I just can't believe neither BB or CC sells a decent stereo with REAL
speakers (that means a Woofer in the same cabinet as the tweeters...12
woofers, not 6) for under $1000. I was in Best Buy, today, and they had
some PoS from Yamaha priced at $900!...for the receiver! Theres one
tiny shelf of 6 stereos in the store! TVs do NOT a stereo make! Some
stupids in the stereo business needs to join the 21st Century! There
should be a HARD DRIVE and MP3 PLAYER in all stereo receivers....not an
AM RADIO! 500 GB hard drive....remote hard drive over WIFI from the
computer in the den...wireless! Turn the stereo on, call it over wifi
from the mainframe and LOAD IT WITH MUSIC! The stupid asses think were
still using CDs and need to by an EXTERNAL CD changer!
Well...Duhhh....!!
Larry
--
QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
"I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand
shops crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas,
Undersecretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do NotBuy from Circuit City
On Dec 22, 11:46 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3907dd5b-3fd3-495a-ac8b-
> 3240ebea2...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Circuit City said in a regulatory filing Wednesday that its board
> > approved a special cash retention award program for its top executives
> > including Chief Financial Officer Bruce Besanko and a long-term
> > incentive plan for CEO Schoonover and other top executives.
> > "It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
> > Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
> > on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
> > for its rank and file employees instead.
>
> Right THERE is the big mistake......
>
> CC used to have all sales staff on commission. They'd follow you around
> and SELL you something and do everything they could to keep you from
> bringing it back, including swapping out your bad one for a new one
> without the corporate bull$hit.
>
> That changed when they moved from the old profitable store to the new one
> across from the mall. Nobody cares if you buy or not, now. Their pay is
> fixed. Who gives a $hit?
>
> And they do the STUPIDEST things....let Verizon sell the phones...we'll
> rent them floor space and stop selling phones entirely....STUPIDS.
> Let's sell STUPID products:
> USB record players
> 100 different landline phones
> The same Communist (Haier) little fridges for $150 that Home Depot sells
> for $70.
> $30 memory cards for $90....a whole wall full of way overpriced memory
> cards. If buy.com sells a 4GB card for $25, wonder what wholesale at CC
> is?....$10, $8?
> 25 types of over $100 tiny computer speakers noone wants.
> Blue computer fans?
> Blue computer lights?
> 25 DVD-R for $59?
> The stores are only partly filled with the dumbest stuff noone
> wants....at outrageous prices...and little turnover.
>
> CC's terrible history of service when it's broken on their extended
> warranty plan is the stuff webpages are made of.....
>
> I just can't believe neither BB or CC sells a decent stereo with REAL
> speakers (that means a Woofer in the same cabinet as the tweeters...12"
> woofers, not 6) for under $1000. I was in Best Buy, today, and they had
> some PoS from Yamaha priced at $900!...for the receiver! There's one
> tiny shelf of 6 stereos in the store! "TVs do NOT a stereo make!" Some
> stupids in the stereo business needs to join the 21st Century! There
> should be a HARD DRIVE and MP3 PLAYER in all stereo receivers....not an
> AM RADIO! 500 GB hard drive....remote hard drive over WIFI from the
> computer in the den...wireless! Turn the stereo on, call it over wifi
> from the mainframe and LOAD IT WITH MUSIC! The stupid asses think we're
> still using CDs and need to by an EXTERNAL CD changer!
>
> Well...Duhhh....!!
>
> Larry
> --
> QUOTE OF THE MONTH:
> "I have been to several major Chinese cities and have seen first hand
> shops crammed with obviously fake American products." - Jon Dudas,
> Undersecretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property Rights.
>
> How can they be fake? The Chinese make all "American Products" I use!
Good post hits the nail on the head here in Atlanta too.
Another point is CC is getting their current employees from the
street. Have you ever seen a female with no belt on her slacks with
her pants falling down, exposed underwear, and a lot of exposed skin
and other stuff?
The poor boys who wear similar attire (which is now banned in Atlanta
public schools) are claiming they are the store managers, yes plural
managers. I had to remind them that they must sell and advertised item
at the advertised price (its the law in Georgia), which also appeared
even on the in-store display. They insisted that it was much more in
the CC computer and they could not sell at the advertised price. Each
'manager' in turn said they could not do it but would not put it
writing. After they saw me taking pictures of the computer display,
the store item, store personal with name tags, all related signs and
stuff with my camera phone they quickly changed CC policy and adjusted
the price on a LCD HDTV in spite of what the CC computer said.
Then they tried to sell me a CC protection plan as if we were good
buddies and they had my best interests at heart all along. Of course
if they go out of business like CompUSA their extended warranty would
be of questionable value. Would you buy one? Who would you sue if they
failed to honnor it?
There's the part that pisses me off....the "Sleaze Factor".
Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!
How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
on 12/22/2007, Larry supposed :
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:3907dd5b-3fd3-495a-ac8b-
> 3240ebea2dae@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Circuit City said in a regulatory filing Wednesday that its board
>> approved a special cash retention award program for its top executives
>> including Chief Financial Officer Bruce Besanko and a long-term
>> incentive plan for CEO Schoonover and other top executives.
>> "It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
>> Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
>> on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
>> for its rank and file employees instead.
>>
>
> Right THERE is the big mistake......
>
> CC used to have all sales staff on commission. They'd follow you around
> and SELL you something and do everything they could to keep you from
> bringing it back, including swapping out your bad one for a new one
> without the corporate bull$hit.
>
> That changed when they moved from the old profitable store to the new one
> across from the mall. Nobody cares if you buy or not, now. Their pay is
> fixed. Who gives a $hit?
>
> And they do the STUPIDEST things....let Verizon sell the phones...we'll
> rent them floor space and stop selling phones entirely....STUPIDS.
> Let's sell STUPID products:
> USB record players
> 100 different landline phones
> The same Communist (Haier) little fridges for $150 that Home Depot sells
> for $70.
> $30 memory cards for $90....a whole wall full of way overpriced memory
> cards. If buy.com sells a 4GB card for $25, wonder what wholesale at CC
> is?....$10, $8?
> 25 types of over $100 tiny computer speakers noone wants.
> Blue computer fans?
> Blue computer lights?
> 25 DVD-R for $59?
> The stores are only partly filled with the dumbest stuff noone
> wants....at outrageous prices...and little turnover.
>
> CC's terrible history of service when it's broken on their extended
> warranty plan is the stuff webpages are made of.....
>
> I just can't believe neither BB or CC sells a decent stereo with REAL
> speakers (that means a Woofer in the same cabinet as the tweeters...12”
> woofers, not 6) for under $1000. I was in Best Buy, today, and they had
> some PoS from Yamaha priced at $900!...for the receiver! There’s one
> tiny shelf of 6 stereos in the store! “TVs do NOT a stereo make!” Some
> stupids in the stereo business needs to join the 21st Century! There
> should be a HARD DRIVE and MP3 PLAYER in all stereo receivers....not an
> AM RADIO! 500 GB hard drive....remote hard drive over WIFI from the
> computer in the den...wireless! Turn the stereo on, call it over wifi
> from the mainframe and LOAD IT WITH MUSIC! The stupid asses think we’re
> still using CDs and need to by an EXTERNAL CD changer!
>
> Well...Duhhh....!!
>
> Larry
If BB and CC are such crummy stores why do you bother entering them? Is
it that you have free time from checking cell coverage behind Walmart?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
In article
<3907dd5b-3fd3-495a-ac8b-3240ebea2dae@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:
> "It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
> Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
> on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
> for its rank and file employees instead.
Circuit City is the company that rewarded their 3000 best and
experienced sales people early this year by firing them in order to
hire employees willing to work for less. There is no incentive for
their rank and file employees. If they become better they will be
fired. That is why I don't buy from Circuit City.
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do NotBuy from Circuit City
Charles wrote:
> In article
> <3907dd5b-3fd3-495a-ac8b-3240ebea2dae@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "It seems like the top executives are paid more for poor performance,"
>> Merrill Lynch analyst Danielle Fox posed the question for management
>> on the call. She asked what kind of incentive plans the company had
>> for its rank and file employees instead.
>
> Circuit City is the company that rewarded their 3000 best and
> experienced sales people early this year by firing them in order to
> hire employees willing to work for less. There is no incentive for
> their rank and file employees. If they become better they will be
> fired. That is why I don't buy from Circuit City.
>
Unfortunately they were trying to emulate the other big box stores that
do the same thing. The big box game is to have a few highly paid and
rewarded employees and try to get labor for as cheap as possible and
then give them an extra kick by officially working them at 37 hours so
they are part time. Then of course the other part of the big box game is
to do constant marketing to program everyone that they are really great
places.
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
TeddeLI <Spam@nospam.neat> wrote in news:mn.ba8c7d7cf3fd1b20.69402
@nospam.neat:
> If BB and CC are such crummy stores why do you bother entering them? Is
> it that you have free time from checking cell coverage behind Walmart?
>
Carolina Girls. BB attracts them like magnets!
Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!
How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:waydnfDg1Y_YFPPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com:
> Unfortunately they were trying to emulate the other big box stores that
> do the same thing. The big box game is to have a few highly paid and
> rewarded employees and try to get labor for as cheap as possible and
> then give them an extra kick by officially working them at 37 hours so
> they are part time. Then of course the other part of the big box game
is
> to do constant marketing to program everyone that they are really great
> places.
>
>
I'm as guilty as BB or CC. There's a drunk up the street who can't keep
a job. He showed up at my door offering to mow my lawn for $10 a couple
of years ago. I let him do it for that, the price HE asked. He's been
doing it every time I leave the blue flag in my front window ever since.
He sees the flag, mows when he's sober enough to walk, I inspect the job
and either leave him a threatening note if he screws up or his $10
outside so I don't have to smell his breath.
As long as there are people desparate and willing to work for little,
Wally World and I will continue to hire them at that price.....
Once he got used to the idea his performance needed to be at a certain
level to get paid, my lawn looks pretty nice. He also needed to get used
to the idea that I, not him, determined when it needed mowing....not when
he ran out of beer money every 3 days. He's also found out begging for
pre-payment a week in advance isn't acceptable. He'd never return if he
owed me money.
Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!
How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do NotBuy from Circuit City
Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:waydnfDg1Y_YFPPanZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>> Unfortunately they were trying to emulate the other big box stores that
>> do the same thing. The big box game is to have a few highly paid and
>> rewarded employees and try to get labor for as cheap as possible and
>> then give them an extra kick by officially working them at 37 hours so
>> they are part time. Then of course the other part of the big box game
> is
>> to do constant marketing to program everyone that they are really great
>> places.
>>
>>
>
> I'm as guilty as BB or CC. There's a drunk up the street who can't keep
> a job. He showed up at my door offering to mow my lawn for $10 a couple
> of years ago. I let him do it for that, the price HE asked. He's been
> doing it every time I leave the blue flag in my front window ever since.
> He sees the flag, mows when he's sober enough to walk, I inspect the job
> and either leave him a threatening note if he screws up or his $10
> outside so I don't have to smell his breath.
>
> As long as there are people desparate and willing to work for little,
> Wally World and I will continue to hire them at that price.....
>
> Once he got used to the idea his performance needed to be at a certain
> level to get paid, my lawn looks pretty nice. He also needed to get used
> to the idea that I, not him, determined when it needed mowing....not when
> he ran out of beer money every 3 days. He's also found out begging for
> pre-payment a week in advance isn't acceptable. He'd never return if he
> owed me money.
>
> Larry
You have a lawn in front of that old van with a mattress parked by the
dumpster behind Walmart?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
TeddeLI <spam@nospam.nettt> wrote in news:ZYybj.15886$y54.8391@trnddc07:
> You have a lawn in front of that old van with a mattress parked by the
> dumpster behind Walmart?
>
>
Astroturf....(c;
Larry
--
I found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy,
but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while
we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag!
How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't
on sale?
Re: Circuit City stock plunges on grim losses report was Re: Do Not Buy from Circuit City
Larry laid this down on his screen :
> TeddeLI <spam@nospam.nettt> wrote in news:ZYybj.15886$y54.8391@trnddc07:
>
>> You have a lawn in front of that old van with a mattress parked by the
>> dumpster behind Walmart?
>>
>>
>
> Astroturf....(c;
>
> Larry
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