Does anyone carry a Verizon phone AND an Iphone?

In article <4aba9eb7$0$1598$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
scharf.steven@geemail.com says...


> "just tell people which carriers have coverage in which places and let
> them get that carrier." Instead, they are now going to allow carriers to
> put towers into city parks which I think is a terrible plan.


I will never, ever, EVER use Verizon Wireless again. They screwed me
hard. They refused to fix their network for six months and only finally
admitted the network had problems when I was ready to quit. I WILL NEVER
go back to VZW, especially since Sprint and T-Mo have caught up to them
in terms of local coverage IN THE AREA WHERE I LIVE.

I know you like being able to crow about how VZW is the best carrier in
Silicon Valley, and I'm very sorry that you might lose that ability, but
saying what you just said is stupid.

Between this BS and your constant shilling for PagePlus... well, I don't
ever accuse people of being VZW shills. You're actually the first, Mr.
Shill.

Are you trying to lose every last shred of credibility?

> Complicating things is that my city is the headquarters of the company
> that makes the iPhone, so it would be politically incorrect for the city
> council to tell people to choose a carrier that doesn't offer the
> iPhone.

Woo. So you live in Cupertino. AT&T sucks too... they're thieves. I
wouldn't use an iPhone if AT&T was giving me a free phone AND paying me
to use the service.


> While I always try to pick apart weasel word advertising, and I'm
> displeased with Verizon for various things they've done, you can't fault
> their coverage when compared to the other carriers.

Yes, and if other carriers improve coverage in your area, VZW would lose
their wide lead over the competition, eh?



--
Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA
sjsobol@JustThe.net

"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4ab9a03a$0$1583$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> What useful apps?
>
> Okay, my bank lets you deposit checks via an iPhone app. Yeah, I can do it
> from home but I have to drag out the scanner (can't use my wireless
> all-in-one machine and can't scan the check to an image file or take a
> photo of it, you have to have the scanner directly hooked to the
> computer).
>
> There are some educational apps for foreign languages only on the iPhone.
>
>> Define "big available market." Outside of a few congested problem areas
>> for AT&T (SF, NY, etc.) AT&T has adequate coverage in most of the
>> country, so that pent up demand for non-AT&T iPhones is probably smaller
>> than you suspect it is, particularly given your location.
>
> The problem is that like the original poster said, you need to carry a
> Verizon phone for rural areas (and not so rural areas in some cases). I.e.
> this morning I was up in the Santa Cruz mountains, not more than ten miles
> from the urban areas of Silicon Valley. While I was waiting for a flagman
> due to construction, I checked coverage on CDMA and GSM where I was
> stopped. Verizon had coverage, AT&T (on my SpeakOut MVNO phone) did not.

Out west Verizon wails on AT&T for coverage. The classic was the day and
AT&T sales rep missed a turn and went in the wrong direction when he was
supposed to be fishing a tournament as a backseater in our local fishing
club. I could reach his voice mail with my Verizon phone, but all up and
down the west side of the state he had no coverage. LOL.

Bob La Londe wrote:

> Out west Verizon wails on AT&T for coverage. The classic was the day
> and AT&T sales rep missed a turn and went in the wrong direction when he
> was supposed to be fishing a tournament as a backseater in our local
> fishing club. I could reach his voice mail with my Verizon phone, but
> all up and down the west side of the state he had no coverage. LOL.

Verizon's coverage advantage stems partially from the fact that they
went from AMPS to CDMA back in the mid-1990's (back in the GTE Mobilnet
days) and didn't have to completely change systems twice like many of
the former Bell System carriers that went from AMPS to TDMA to GSM. This
saved them a fortune on capital equipment, money that they used to
increase coverage and gain a long term advantage. CDMA is much better
suited than GSM to the United States with its large areas of open space,
unlike densely populated areas of Europe and Asia. Verizon also benefits
from having most of their network at 800 MHz. T-Mobile and Sprint need a
lot more towers at 1900 MHz to cover the same area.

The old AT&T Wireless (not AT&T which was a separate company), which was
bigger than Cingular, wanted to move from TDMA to CDMA, but NTT Docomo
invested billions of dollars in AT&T Wireless and forced them to move to
GSM. The botched AT&T Wireless conversion from TDMA/AMPS to GSM, with
the resulting loss of coverage, is what essentially destroyed AT&T
Wireless, leading to its acquisition by Cingular.

Stephen Colbert's video on the History of AT&T
"http://jdwusami.vox.com/library/post/colbert-report-history-of-att.html"
is still very funny.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:18:24 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> staggered into the room, obviously drunk, and
said:

>XS11E wrote:
>> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> What value would it bring other than "look at me I have an
>>> iphone?"
>>
>> That's the only reason. A BlackBerry will do everything *USEFUL* that
>> an iPone will do and do it better.
>>
>> NOTE: I said USEFUL, iPhones have tons of useless apps that appeal to
>> kids such as games, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I doubt that iPhones are the only phones that have games and useless apps!

Not sure that is what he said. I believe he simply stated that a
Blackberry will do more things, better, with the USEFUL applications
compared to the iPhone, which is basically all "Hey! Look at me ma! No
hands!"

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:33:57 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>That's the only reason. A BlackBerry will do everything *USEFUL* that
>an iPone will do and do it better.

Oh? Where can I download the Blackberry's Kindle reader? I find it extremely
useful while commuting.

-- Larry (bought Iphone and Storm -- gave the Storm to my wife, but we like
having both when we travel)