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Old 02-16-2008, 03:03 PM
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jl wrote:
> On Feb 15, 4:44 pm, Steve Sobol <sjso...@JustThe.net> wrote:
> [...]
>> There's plenty to dislike about VZW, but I think the OP has it wrong
>> this time.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
>> Geek-for-hire. Details:http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

>
> Most corporate lawyers don't go to court. Estate lawyers and trust
> lawyers don't ordinarily go to court. Patent lawyers and IP lawyers
> don't go to court. Litigation lawyers do.


He never said he was a lawyer... and I'd be real real shocked to find out
that someone that whacko is actually an ambulance chaser........



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Old 02-16-2008, 06:18 PM
The Ghost of General Lee
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:03:42 -0500, "Peter Pan"
<PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote:

>He never said he was a lawyer... and I'd be real real shocked to find out
>that someone that whacko is actually an ambulance chaser........
>


>Well, having experience in law, i. e., having been a
>litigation lawyer, I refused to sign it.


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Old 02-17-2008, 03:56 PM
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:06:23 -0800 (PST), jl <jls1016@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

[snip]

>I am now on month-to-month. I can cancel at any time and so can
>they. That is fine with me. So why should I sign an "Agreement," i.
>e., a contract, in order to reduce my minutes to 450 from 900, or in
>order to get and pay bills on the internet? In both cases, Verizon
>requires you to sign an open-ended document. WTF is that?


Because you are having them "do something" to your plan; that requires
"work" on their part, and, by reducing your plan (to 450 from 900),
they are going to be making less money on you presumably per month.

If they are making a modification to your plan, they want to make sure
it is worth their while -- i.e., you are gonna hang around for a
couple years or pay an ETF.

Bottom line: As long as you just use your plan as-is and make no
changes, you are free to stay with them (for the time being), under
your current plan, on a month-to-month no-contract basis. If you
wanna do anything, especially reduce the plan rate, they are gonna
want to make it worth their while. I can't blame them.

>I have already signed a contract with them, 2 and 1/2 years ago. It
>expired, so far as my two-year obligation is concerned. So why do I
>need to sign another "Agreement?"


You don't "need to". Verizon just requires you to to make it worth
their while to modify your plan.

>I'm not signing a goddamn thing


Then don't. That's the thing about being out-of-contract -- you don't
have to sign a contract and they don't have to allow you to change
your rate plan without signing one.

>And you know what? They're still providing services, despite my
>refusal to sign their unconscionable agreement. What does that tell
>you?


That tells me that they are perfectly happy with keeping you as a
customer as long as you don't attempt to make certain/any changes to
your account.

Why don't you go and file a couple dozen of illegal lawsuits against
Verizon?

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