Fwd: Newbie for Internet data plan for a Verizon Wireless user.

Hello.

My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems
-- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!

I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
phones that we just bought earlier this year?

Thank you in advance.
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From: "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT>

> Hello.
>
> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X 10.5.8, and very
> old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We
> want to get a back up fast Internet connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down
> which does happen once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows computer but it
> is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems -- it has been like this since
> the mid 1990s/90s)!
>
> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How will that work?
> Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new phones that we just bought earlier
> this year?
>
> Thank you in advance.

4G MiFi or DSL

"USB wireless modem" ?

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Ant wrote on [Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:31:25 -0700]:
> Hello.
>
> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems
> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>
> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
> phones that we just bought earlier this year?

It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.

On 6/10/2012 7:49 PM PT, David H. Lipman typed:

>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X 10.5.8, and very
>> old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We
>> want to get a back up fast Internet connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down
>> which does happen once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows computer but it
>> is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems -- it has been like this since
>> the mid 1990s/90s)!
>>
>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How will that work?
>> Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new phones that we just bought earlier
>> this year?
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>
> 4G MiFi or DSL

How does one use DSL outside the home to travel with computer devices
and mobile phones? Also, DSL is unavailable at home too so that's out.


> "USB wireless modem" ?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...eCategoryId=15
for USB modems to connect computer devices and mobile phones with their
Verizon Wireless service.

Oops, thank you for removing my FWD. My first post failed for some
reason so I had to repost it.
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On 6/10/2012 8:44 PM PT, Justin typed:

>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
>> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
>> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
>> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
>> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
>> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems
>> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>>
>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
>> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
>> phones that we just bought earlier this year?
>
> It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.

That's the problem. No DSL service here. And how does one travel outside
of home with it? I'd like to take it outdoor too if wifi and wired
services are unavailable.
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From: "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT>

> On 6/10/2012 7:49 PM PT, David H. Lipman typed:
>
>>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
>>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
>>> 10.5.8, and very
>>> old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple iPhone 4S and two
>>> LG Cosmos 2). We
>>> want to get a back up fast Internet connection in case Time Warner Cable
>>> (TWC) goes down
>>> which does happen once in a while for hours and is quite annoying.
>>> Currently, we use
>>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
>>> computer but it
>>> is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems -- it has been
>>> like this since
>>> the mid 1990s/90s)!
>>>
>>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
>>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
>>> will that work?
>>> Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new phones that we just
>>> bought earlier
>>> this year?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>
>> 4G MiFi or DSL
>
> How does one use DSL outside the home to travel with computer devices and
> mobile phones? Also, DSL is unavailable at home too so that's out.
>
>> "USB wireless modem" ?
>
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...eCategoryId=15
> for USB modems to connect computer devices and mobile phones with their
> Verizon Wireless service.
>
> Oops, thank you for removing my FWD. My first post failed for some reason
> so I had to repost it.

That URL is worthless as it depends on locality.

If DSL is not available I sduggest the 4G MiFi.



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Ant wrote on [Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:34:20 -0700]:
> On 6/10/2012 8:44 PM PT, Justin typed:
>
>>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
>>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
>>> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
>>> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
>>> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
>>> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
>>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
>>> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems
>>> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>>>
>>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
>>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
>>> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
>>> phones that we just bought earlier this year?
>>
>> It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.
>
> That's the problem. No DSL service here. And how does one travel outside
> of home with it? I'd like to take it outdoor too if wifi and wired
> services are unavailable.

Your post doesn't mention anything about you wanting to go mobile with it.

You can tether a phone for I believe an extra $20 a month if you want
to do it according to the terms of service.
A USB modem will cost somewhere around 40-60 a month and you only
get 5GB a month.

With multiple users you could easily use 5GB in a day

From: "Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com>

> Ant wrote on [Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:34:20 -0700]:
>> On 6/10/2012 8:44 PM PT, Justin typed:
>>
>>>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
>>>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
>>>> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
>>>> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
>>>> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
>>>> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
>>>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one
>>>> Windows
>>>> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k
>>>> modems
>>>> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>>>>
>>>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
>>>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones?
>>>> How
>>>> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
>>>> phones that we just bought earlier this year?
>>>
>>> It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.
>>
>> That's the problem. No DSL service here. And how does one travel outside
>> of home with it? I'd like to take it outdoor too if wifi and wired
>> services are unavailable.
>
> Your post doesn't mention anything about you wanting to go mobile with it.
>
> You can tether a phone for I believe an extra $20 a month if you want
> to do it according to the terms of service.
> A USB modem will cost somewhere around 40-60 a month and you only
> get 5GB a month.
>
> With multiple users you could easily use 5GB in a day

We need to move away from using the terminology "USB Modem". If anything it
is a "Cellular modem" that tethers to a phone via USB. This way it puts the
device in its connection technology like; DUN modem, Cable modem and DSL
modem. As we all know many Cable and DSL modems also have a USB port.

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On Jun 11, 5:40*am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
wrote:
> From: "Ant" <a...@zimage.comANT>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/10/2012 7:49 PM PT, David H. Lipman typed:
>
> >>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
> >>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
> >>> 10.5.8, and very
> >>> old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple iPhone 4S and two
> >>> LG Cosmos 2). We
> >>> want to get a back up fast Internet connection in case Time Warner Cable
> >>> (TWC) goes down
> >>> which does happen once in a while for hours and is quite annoying.
> >>> Currently, we use
> >>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
> >>> computer but it
> >>> is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems -- it has been
> >>> like this since
> >>> the mid 1990s/90s)!
>
> >>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
> >>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
> >>> will that work?
> >>> Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new phones that we just
> >>> bought earlier
> >>> this year?
>
> >>> Thank you in advance.
>
> >> 4G MiFi or DSL
>
> > How does one use DSL outside the home to travel with computer devices and
> > mobile phones? Also, DSL is unavailable at home too so that's out.
>
> >> "USB wireless modem" ?
>
> >http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...m=phoneFirst&a....
> > for USB modems to connect computer devices and mobile phones with their
> > Verizon Wireless service.
>
> > Oops, thank you for removing my FWD. My first post failed for some reason
> > so I had to repost it.
>
> That URL is worthless as it depends on locality.

90631


> If DSL is not available I sduggest the 4G MiFi.

OK. I don't remember seeing it with Verizon. I will check later.

On Jun 11, 5:48*am, Justin <nos...@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Ant wrote on [Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:34:20 -0700]:
>
> >>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
> >>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
> >>> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
> >>> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
> >>> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
> >>> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
> >>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one Windows
> >>> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k modems
> >>> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>
> >>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but 4G
> >>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones? How
> >>> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
> >>> phones that we just bought earlier this year?
>
> >> It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.
>
> > That's the problem. No DSL service here. And how does one travel outside
> > of home with it? I'd like to take it outdoor too if wifi and wired
> > services are unavailable.
>
> Your post doesn't mention anything about you wanting to go mobile with it..

Oops, sorry. I forgot to note that. I thought I did.


> You can tether a phone for I believe an extra $20 a month if you want
> to do it according to the terms of service.
> A USB modem will cost somewhere around 40-60 a month and you only
> get 5GB a month.

Dang, only 5 GB? So it doesn't use the same 10 GB (maximum plan) in
the Verizon Wireless phones?


> With multiple users you could easily use 5GB in a day

Yeah, but this is just for emergencies and quick Internet.

> >>>> My small family and I have multiple desktop computers and
> >>>> laptops/notebooks (Linux/Debian stable, 2008's MacBook Pro's Mac OS X
> >>>> 10.5.8, and very old Windows XP Pro. SP3) and mobile phones (an Apple
> >>>> iPhone 4S and two LG Cosmos 2). We want to get a back up fast Internet
> >>>> connection in case Time Warner Cable (TWC) goes down which does happen
> >>>> once in a while for hours and is quite annoying. Currently, we use
> >>>> dial-up Internet through Verizon's old copper phone lines on one
> >>>> Windows
> >>>> computer but it is too slow (3 KB/sec average even on various 56k
> >>>> modems
> >>>> -- it has been like this since the mid 1990s/90s)!
>
> >>>> I assume I need an USB wireless modem if needed for emergencies, but4G
> >>>> type. iPhone 4S uses 3G. Do we connect it to these mentioned phones?
> >>>> How
> >>>> will that work? Are these modems backward compatible? Do we need new
> >>>> phones that we just bought earlier this year?
>
> >>> It would be much cheaper to get a DSL line as backup.
>
> >> That's the problem. No DSL service here. And how does one travel outside
> >> of home with it? I'd like to take it outdoor too if wifi and wired
> >> services are unavailable.
>
> > Your post doesn't mention anything about you wanting to go mobile with it.
>
> > You can tether a phone for I believe an extra $20 a month if you want
> > to do it according to the terms of service.
> > A USB modem will cost somewhere around 40-60 a month and you only
> > get 5GB a month.
>
> > With multiple users you could easily use 5GB in a day
>
> We need to move away from using the terminology "USB Modem". *If anything it
> is a "Cellular modem" that tethers to a phone via USB. *This way it puts the
> device in its connection technology like; DUN modem, Cable modem and DSL
> modem. *As we all know many Cable and DSL modems also have a USB port.

Ah, so I should say cellular phones through USB to computers.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:39:15 -0700 (PDT), Ant wrote:

> Ah, so I should say cellular phones through USB to computers.

Or maybe "USB-connected cellular-data modem" :-) .
Like, e.g., the Sierra Wireless (q.v.) AirCard series.

Cheers, -- tlvp
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On 6/11/2012 5:40 AM PT, David H. Lipman typed:

>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...eCategoryId=15
>> for USB modems to connect computer devices and mobile phones with
>> their Verizon Wireless service.
>>
>> Oops, thank you for removing my FWD. My first post failed for some
>> reason so I had to repost it.
>
> That URL is worthless as it depends on locality.

90631.


> If DSL is not available I sduggest the 4G MiFi.

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On 6/11/2012 5:58 PM PT, tlvp typed:

>> Ah, so I should say cellular phones through USB to computers.
>
> Or maybe "USB-connected cellular-data modem" :-) .
> Like, e.g., the Sierra Wireless (q.v.) AirCard series.

Thanks, tlvp (does abbreviation/acroymn that mean anything?)
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Ant wrote on [Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:38:17 -0700 (PDT)]:
> On Jun 11, 5:48Â*am, Justin <nos...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>> Ant wrote on [Mon, 11 Jun 2012 05:34:20 -0700]:
>>
>
>> You can tether a phone for I believe an extra $20 a month if you want
>> to do it according to the terms of service.
>> A USB modem will cost somewhere around 40-60 a month and you only
>> get 5GB a month.
>
> Dang, only 5 GB? So it doesn't use the same 10 GB (maximum plan) in
> the Verizon Wireless phones?

Unless something has changed, the tethering data is in addition
to your cellphone data.

From: "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT>

> On 6/11/2012 5:58 PM PT, tlvp typed:
>
>>> Ah, so I should say cellular phones through USB to computers.
>>
>> Or maybe "USB-connected cellular-data modem" :-) .
>> Like, e.g., the Sierra Wireless (q.v.) AirCard series.
>
> Thanks, tlvp (does abbreviation/acroymn that mean anything?)

That's weird.

I see you replied to "tlvp" yet I don't see his reply in the thread on two
news servers; GigaNews and NewsGuy.

Maybe due to x-posting including; 0.verizon.discussion-general which is a
ghost group.

news.verizon.net was shutdown which included the private 0.verizon.* groups.
Some pseudo groups were created on some news servers but the 0.verizon.*
hierachy was not part of Usenet.

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:34:04 -0400, David H. Lipman wrote:

> That's weird.
>
> I see you replied to "tlvp" yet I don't see his reply in the thread on two
> news servers; GigaNews and NewsGuy.

Blame it on differential propagation delay :-). Or selective server uptake.
Or maybe my post went to a.c.verizon only, who knows?

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From: "blitz"

> David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>> From: "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT>
>>
>>> On 6/11/2012 5:58 PM PT, tlvp typed:
>>>
>>>>> Ah, so I should say cellular phones through USB to computers.
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe "USB-connected cellular-data modem" :-) .
>>>> Like, e.g., the Sierra Wireless (q.v.) AirCard series.
>>>
>>> Thanks, tlvp (does abbreviation/acroymn that mean anything?)
>>
>> That's weird.
>>
>> I see you replied to "tlvp" yet I don't see his reply in the thread on
>> two
>> news servers; GigaNews and NewsGuy.
>
> Because the reply was only to alt.cellular.verizon and
> alt.internet.wireless.

LOL - That explains it. ;-)

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