It looks awesome - and it's free, aside from connection charges.
My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
For that matter, it's hard to contemplate VZ allowing this app on
a VZ/Android phone, as it would blow away Navigator.
I think this changes the landscape for many people re both
postpaid and prepaid carriers.
At 28 Oct 2009 23:37:26 -0400 Paul B wrote:
> Check out this review and the official video on this page:
>
> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...fines-car-gps-
navigation-google-maps-navigation-android/
>
> It looks awesome - and it's free, aside from connection charges.
>
> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
The Droid is compatible with PagePlus, but I doubt you'll want to
navigate much at $0.60/MB!
> For that matter, it's hard to contemplate VZ allowing this app on
> a VZ/Android phone, as it would blow away Navigator.
Yeah, but Verizon is already squeezing $30/month from smartphone users in
mandatory data charges- where Navigator shines is on dumbphones where the
GPS software competition is leaner.
> I think this changes the landscape for many people re both
> postpaid and prepaid carriers.
Other than the street view at your destination there's very little new
here. Microsoft's Bing Mobile (formerly Live Search Mobile) has offered
these features for a long time- turn-b-turn directions with rerouting,
navigate by voice, trafic overlay, search by business name or category,
aerial or map view. It's, IMO, Windows Mobile's "killer app." Rarely a
day goes by that I don't use Bing Mobile. (It even works on my PagePlus
Windows Mobile phones with the free 14.4k QNC data, though the maps don't
often appear quickly enough, but at least I can follow the onscreen
directions.)
This new Google app seems to improve on Bing a bit, so I anticipate MS
will up the ante again soon.
I still use a traditional GPS app on my phone as a backup since all of
these cloud apps become useless outside a cellular service area!
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:42:40 -0600, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 28 Oct 2009 23:37:26 -0400 Paul B wrote:
>> Check out this review and the official video on this page:
>>
>> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...fines-car-gps-
> navigation-google-maps-navigation-android/
>>
>> It looks awesome - and it's free, aside from connection charges.
>>
>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>
> The Droid is compatible with PagePlus, but I doubt you'll want to
> navigate much at $0.60/MB!
That's a very good point. I need to give this more thought before
I jump, another factor being that I intend on cutting the cord
soon.
>> I think this changes the landscape for many people re both
>> postpaid and prepaid carriers.
>
>
> Other than the street view at your destination there's very little new
> here. Microsoft's Bing Mobile (formerly Live Search Mobile) has offered
> these features for a long time- turn-b-turn directions with rerouting,
> navigate by voice, trafic overlay, search by business name or category,
> aerial or map view. It's, IMO, Windows Mobile's "killer app." Rarely a
> day goes by that I don't use Bing Mobile. (It even works on my PagePlus
> Windows Mobile phones with the free 14.4k QNC data, though the maps don't
> often appear quickly enough, but at least I can follow the onscreen
> directions.)
>
> This new Google app seems to improve on Bing a bit, so I anticipate MS
> will up the ante again soon.
I was impressed with Google Map's ability to search current
information transcending names and categories, such as where the
King Tut exhibit currently resides. Not sure I have a need for
it, but it's a step forward.
> I still use a traditional GPS app on my phone as a backup since all of
> these cloud apps become useless outside a cellular service area!
Paul B wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:42:40 -0600, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> At 28 Oct 2009 23:37:26 -0400 Paul B wrote:
>>> Check out this review and the official video on this page:
>>>
>>> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/28...fines-car-gps-
>> navigation-google-maps-navigation-android/
>>> It looks awesome - and it's free, aside from connection charges.
>>>
>>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>> The Droid is compatible with PagePlus, but I doubt you'll want to
>> navigate much at $0.60/MB!
>
> That's a very good point. I need to give this more thought before
> I jump, another factor being that I intend on cutting the cord
> soon.
Since it is nice to have mobile data and more and more stuff will use it
that is the biggest reason for me not to migrate away from VZW.
>
>>> I think this changes the landscape for many people re both
>>> postpaid and prepaid carriers.
>>
>> Other than the street view at your destination there's very little new
>> here. Microsoft's Bing Mobile (formerly Live Search Mobile) has offered
>> these features for a long time- turn-b-turn directions with rerouting,
>> navigate by voice, trafic overlay, search by business name or category,
>> aerial or map view. It's, IMO, Windows Mobile's "killer app." Rarely a
>> day goes by that I don't use Bing Mobile. (It even works on my PagePlus
>> Windows Mobile phones with the free 14.4k QNC data, though the maps don't
>> often appear quickly enough, but at least I can follow the onscreen
>> directions.)
>>
>> This new Google app seems to improve on Bing a bit, so I anticipate MS
>> will up the ante again soon.
>
> I was impressed with Google Map's ability to search current
> information transcending names and categories, such as where the
> King Tut exhibit currently resides. Not sure I have a need for
> it, but it's a step forward.
>
>> I still use a traditional GPS app on my phone as a backup since all of
>> these cloud apps become useless outside a cellular service area!
>
> That's another good point.
>
> p.
Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
news:1l471zm2w9be5$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>
>
Page Plus doesn't have an internet service.....
"data" is awfully expensive...by-the-megabyte.
I'd buy unlimited PP data service if it were like Cricket's....$40/mo,
$35/mo with phone service.
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:hcc5u3$c2k$1@news.eternal-
september.org:
> Since it is nice to have mobile data and more and more stuff will use it
> that is the biggest reason for me not to migrate away from VZW.
>
>
But, as "more and more stuff will use it", you'll hit the VZW stupid 5GB
limit every month and be in Ripoffland before you know it...earlier and
earlier every month!
Something's gotta give. I can't wait for WiMax to hit here.....(c;]
> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
> news:1l471zm2w9be5$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>
>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>>
>>
>
> Page Plus doesn't have an internet service.....
Larry wrote:
> George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:hcc5u3$c2k$1@news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> Since it is nice to have mobile data and more and more stuff will use it
>> that is the biggest reason for me not to migrate away from VZW.
>>
>>
>
> But, as "more and more stuff will use it", you'll hit the VZW stupid 5GB
> limit every month and be in Ripoffland before you know it...earlier and
> earlier every month!
>
> Something's gotta give. I can't wait for WiMax to hit here.....(c;]
>
>
Can't seem to get away from that black clouds everywhere syndrome can you?
Smartphone plans are unlimited. And even if they weren't typical users
aren't downloading 150Gb/month just because they can or they feel that
the airwaves are free or whatever.
Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
news:cna586czrevg.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:21 +0000, Larry wrote:
>
>> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
>> news:1l471zm2w9be5$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>>
>>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Page Plus doesn't have an internet service.....
>
> You sure about that?
>
50MB/month on the $29.95 plan. 20MB/month on the $39.95 plan.
"Data Transport* $0.0012/KB ($1.20/M
*Data Transport - Data Transport is used to transmit and receive data for
MMS (Picture Messaging), WAP (Mobile Web), BREW (App Store), e-mail and all
other standard applications that require data not listed here. Standard
data transport for MMS messages will be between 20 KB and 200 KB ($0.024
and $0.24, respectively)."
No tethering, no aircards, no nothing.....It's not made for "features",
it's made to make phone calls, text message and MMS (but no MMS on the
unlimited text plan for some reason).
Hmm...let's see. The movie is a DivX 1.4GB, 1400 MB x $1.20 = $1,680 to
download a DivX movie. Any other silly questions?.....yecch!
Mr. Smith <none@none.net> wrote in
news:8djke5pkr65ppj2ejaiv8e7btfv7lc8nj4@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:28:44 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>news:hcc5u3$c2k$1@news.eternal- september.org:
>>
>>> Since it is nice to have mobile data and more and more stuff will
>>> use it that is the biggest reason for me not to migrate away from
>>> VZW.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>But, as "more and more stuff will use it", you'll hit the VZW stupid
>>5GB limit every month and be in Ripoffland before you know
>>it...earlier and earlier every month!
>>
>>Something's gotta give. I can't wait for WiMax to hit here.....(c;]
>
> Larry, Larry, Larry....get your fact straight before embarassing
> yourself. PHONES do not have a 5GB limit. That only applies if you
> are using a netbook, aircard, or tethering. Smartphones are given
> UNLIMITED data to use as long as they are not tethered.
>
> Now go back into your hole and wrap that tinfoil around your head
> again. You are embarassing yourself.
>
Why would anyone pay for internet service to a shitty sellphone that has no
storage, won't let you do anything useful.....oh, wait.....that's
why....5GB is IMPOSSIBLE on a shitphone so it's a no brainer to call it
"unlimited"!
> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
> news:cna586czrevg.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:21 +0000, Larry wrote:
>>
>>> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
>>> news:1l471zm2w9be5$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>>>
>>>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>>>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>>>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Page Plus doesn't have an internet service.....
>>
>> You sure about that?
>>
>
> 50MB/month on the $29.95 plan. 20MB/month on the $39.95 plan.
>
> "Data Transport* $0.0012/KB ($1.20/M
>
> *Data Transport - Data Transport is used to transmit and receive data for
> MMS (Picture Messaging), WAP (Mobile Web), BREW (App Store), e-mail and all
> other standard applications that require data not listed here. Standard
> data transport for MMS messages will be between 20 KB and 200 KB ($0.024
> and $0.24, respectively)."
>
> No tethering, no aircards, no nothing.....It's not made for "features",
> it's made to make phone calls, text message and MMS (but no MMS on the
> unlimited text plan for some reason).
>
> Hmm...let's see. The movie is a DivX 1.4GB, 1400 MB x $1.20 = $1,680 to
> download a DivX movie. Any other silly questions?.....yecch!
>
> --
> Larry
It wasn't a silly question. Your position seems to make perfect
sense for a heavy INet user, but for a light user PP's offerings
are more reasonable.
"Paul B" <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in message
news:18hivt9aavh7u$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid...
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:53:28 +0000, Larry wrote:
>
>> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
>> news:cna586czrevg.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>>
>>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:21 +0000, Larry wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul B <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:1l471zm2w9be5$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid:
>>>>
>>>>> My dilemma: I'm planning on going to Page Plus this Spring, and I
>>>>> think this breaks that idea. Or is there/will there be an Android
>>>>> phone compatible with PP's Internet service?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Page Plus doesn't have an internet service.....
>>>
>>> You sure about that?
>>>
>>
>> 50MB/month on the $29.95 plan. 20MB/month on the $39.95 plan.
>>
>> "Data Transport* $0.0012/KB ($1.20/M
>>
>> *Data Transport - Data Transport is used to transmit and receive data for
>> MMS (Picture Messaging), WAP (Mobile Web), BREW (App Store), e-mail and
>> all
>> other standard applications that require data not listed here. Standard
>> data transport for MMS messages will be between 20 KB and 200 KB ($0.024
>> and $0.24, respectively)."
>>
>> No tethering, no aircards, no nothing.....It's not made for "features",
>> it's made to make phone calls, text message and MMS (but no MMS on the
>> unlimited text plan for some reason).
>>
>> Hmm...let's see. The movie is a DivX 1.4GB, 1400 MB x $1.20 = $1,680 to
>> download a DivX movie. Any other silly questions?.....yecch!
>>
>> --
>> Larry
>
>
> It wasn't a silly question. Your position seems to make perfect
> sense for a heavy INet user, but for a light user PP's offerings
> are more reasonable.
So, how much data transport does the average cellphone screen full of
webpage, or even a smartphone screenful, comprise?
I'm considering PP (have been lurking here for quite a while, reading) and
might go with the $29.99-or-less plan. I only use a RAZR at present, and
never =ever= use the lame web interface at Verizon's expensive rates. But I
might be tempted to use it if I had 50 MB of included data transport to play
with.
I would think that a RAZR on the web would be so annoying as to be
self-limiting in terms of data use, but if I only used it a couple of times
a week, how close would I really get to 50 MB?
> "Paul B" <pb_public@R.E.M.O.V.E.T.H.I.Soperamail.com> wrote in message
> news:18hivt9aavh7u$.dlg@pbpublic.invalid...
>> It wasn't a silly question. Your position seems to make perfect
>> sense for a heavy INet user, but for a light user PP's offerings
>> are more reasonable.
>
> So, how much data transport does the average cellphone screen full of
> webpage, or even a smartphone screenful, comprise?
>
> I'm considering PP (have been lurking here for quite a while, reading) and
> might go with the $29.99-or-less plan. I only use a RAZR at present, and
> never =ever= use the lame web interface at Verizon's expensive rates. But I
> might be tempted to use it if I had 50 MB of included data transport to play
> with.
>
> I would think that a RAZR on the web would be so annoying as to be
> self-limiting in terms of data use, but if I only used it a couple of times
> a week, how close would I really get to 50 MB?
I'm not the right one to ask, since I never go on the Web by
phone. I have an LG Voyager, which is supposed to be hot stuff,
and it is such a pain to use, plus VZ's web access is so
restrictive, that I simply have no desire to use it.
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