I dont like broadcasting my location to some database every 2
minutes....or how can I effectively jam the signal. I am retired and at
most go to my American Legion meetings or things like that but I hate
knowing some government entity has a need to know my daily activities
...... I know phones have this built in......I want to disable it.
Permanently. I have no dishonorable intent.....I have an intense
distrust ....
I think the default setting is to only send GPS info only during a 911 call.
There may be a law stating that all new phones must have GPS on during a 911
call.
Even without GPS they can track you by seeing what towers you connect to and
when.
So keep your phone off if you don't want to be tracked or wrap your phone in
tin foil, it will definitely jam the signal, but you won't get any calls
"RLan" <RLan.2iivs1@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote in message
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>
> How do I disable the GPS in my VX 8300.
>
> I dont like broadcasting my location to some database every 2
> minutes....or how can I effectively jam the signal. I am retired and at
> most go to my American Legion meetings or things like that but I hate
> knowing some government entity has a need to know my daily activities
> .... I know phones have this built in......I want to disable it.
> Permanently. I have no dishonorable intent.....I have an intense
> distrust ....
>
> Thank you in advance
>
>
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Cliff Hartle wrote:
> I think the default setting is to only send GPS info only during a 911 call.
> There may be a law stating that all new phones must have GPS on during a 911
> call.
>
> Even without GPS they can track you by seeing what towers you connect to and
> when.
>
> So keep your phone off if you don't want to be tracked or wrap your phone in
> tin foil, it will definitely jam the signal, but you won't get any calls
>
>
>
> "RLan" <RLan.2iivs1@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote in message
> news:RLan.2iivs1@nospam.cellphoneforums.net...
>> How do I disable the GPS in my VX 8300.
>>
>> I dont like broadcasting my location to some database every 2
>> minutes....or how can I effectively jam the signal. I am retired and at
>> most go to my American Legion meetings or things like that but I hate
>> knowing some government entity has a need to know my daily activities
>> .... I know phones have this built in......I want to disable it.
>> Permanently. I have no dishonorable intent.....I have an intense
>> distrust ....
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>>
>>
>> --
>> RLan
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> http://cellphoneforums.net/member.ph...&userid=152017
>> View this thread: http://cellphoneforums.net/t238392
>>
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>
Are we paranoid or what...By the way, Verizon etc can turn your phone on
at anytime and get your signal ... can be done under Federal requirement
of DOJ.
Sleep tight .. the Patriot Act has you protected....
If a phone is powered off, Verizon cannot "turn your phone on".
It's physically powered OFF.
Called a power button son...
"birder" <birder@outdoorbird.com> wrote in message news:fEBeh.12$pc2.8@newsfe02.lga...
>>
> Are we paranoid or what...By the way, Verizon etc can turn your phone on at anytime and get your signal ... can be
> done under Federal requirement of DOJ.
> Sleep tight .. the Patriot Act has you protected....
Ness net wrote:
> If a phone is powered off, Verizon cannot "turn your phone on".
>
> It's physically powered OFF.
>
> Called a power button son...
>
>
> "birder" <birder@outdoorbird.com> wrote in message news:fEBeh.12$pc2.8@newsfe02.lga...
>> Are we paranoid or what...By the way, Verizon etc can turn your phone on at anytime and get your signal ... can be
>> done under Federal requirement of DOJ.
>> Sleep tight .. the Patriot Act has you protected....
>
>
But its not really a power button in the sense that it physically
disconnects the power. Its really a "soft" button. The only true way to
totally turn off a phone would be to remove the battery pack.
trippy wrote:
>
> In article <2didnbpkFulCa-fYnZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@giganews.com>, Ness net
> took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
>
> > If a phone is powered off, Verizon cannot "turn your phone on".
> >
> > It's physically powered OFF.
> >
> > Called a power button son...
>
> They can activate the mic on your phone whether your power is on or off.
Ness net wrote:
> If a phone is powered off, Verizon cannot "turn your phone on".
>
> It's physically powered OFF.
>
> Called a power button son...
>
>
> "birder" <birder@outdoorbird.com> wrote in message news:fEBeh.12$pc2.8@newsfe02.lga...
> >>
> > Are we paranoid or what...By the way, Verizon etc can turn your phone on at anytime and get your signal ... can be
> > done under Federal requirement of DOJ.
> > Sleep tight .. the Patriot Act has you protected....
As someone else said, it is a softkey. The really shocking thing is
that they have a mode that will turn on the microphone of the phone and
it becomes a bug!
Yes, there has been some press on this, but to eavesdrop via call
phone takes a special phone, or specific firmware to do it.
I suggest you actually read the articles on this.
"trippy" <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1fe4b847d021fca9897d8@news.alt.net...
>
> They can activate the mic on your phone whether your power is on or off.
>
>
>
When this news broke, the articles I read were
specific about certain Nokia models and the
possibility of firmware on others.
The stuff I just read seems to show differently.
Now, this it the press after all, so how much is actual
fact is debatable, but I'll retract my previous statement
anyway, considering...
"Ness net" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message news:t5qdncoJHbxSY-fYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@giganews.com...
> Absolutely false - and impossible.
>
> Yes, there has been some press on this, but to eavesdrop via call
> phone takes a special phone, or specific firmware to do it.
>
> I suggest you actually read the articles on this.
>
>
> "trippy" <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1fe4b847d021fca9897d8@news.alt.net...
>>
>> They can activate the mic on your phone whether your power is on or off.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Ness net wrote:
>
> I may need to retract that previous statement.
>
> When this news broke, the articles I read were
> specific about certain Nokia models and the
> possibility of firmware on others.
>
> The stuff I just read seems to show differently.
> Now, this it the press after all, so how much is actual
> fact is debatable, but I'll retract my previous statement
> anyway, considering...
>
> <snip>
Until i see definitive documentation (i.e., something *other*
than a press report), the batteries stay in.
Ness net wrote:
> Absolutely false - and impossible.
>
> Yes, there has been some press on this, but to eavesdrop via call
> phone takes a special phone, or specific firmware to do it.
>
> I suggest you actually read the articles on this.
>
>
> "trippy" <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1fe4b847d021fca9897d8@news.alt.net...
>> They can activate the mic on your phone whether your power is on or off.
>>
It seems like you are unfamiliar with the rules of logic. You can never
prove that something can't happen or doesn't exist.
A phone is a computerized device and the "power button" does not
physically turn off the power. It is most definitely possible to program
a device to do something without turning the UI on or displaying the
activity on the UI thus something can be donn without the knowledge of
the user.
Eric wrote:
> As someone else said, it is a softkey. The really shocking thing is
> that they have a mode that will turn on the microphone of the phone and
> it becomes a bug!
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html
Cool. If someone ever nicks my phone, I'm getting Verizon to locate it
electronically, activate it, and try to get some convicting evidence,
or at least drain the power so that it's useless.
> But its not really a power button in the sense that it physically
disconnects the power. Its really a "soft" button. The only true way to
totally turn off a phone would be to remove the battery pack.
>
....and what makes you think Verizon can't just send power to the phone
over the cell network and turn it on without a battery? ;-)
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 09 Dec 2006 13:02:26 -0500 George wrote:
>
>> But its not really a power button in the sense that it physically
> disconnects the power. Its really a "soft" button. The only true way to
> totally turn off a phone would be to remove the battery pack.
>
> ...and what makes you think Verizon can't just send power to the phone
> over the cell network and turn it on without a battery? ;-)
>
>
Jeb Hoge wrote:
> Eric wrote:
>
>>As someone else said, it is a softkey. The really shocking thing is
>>that they have a mode that will turn on the microphone of the phone and
>>it becomes a bug!
>>
>>http://news.com.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html
>
>
> Cool. If someone ever nicks my phone, I'm getting Verizon to locate it
> electronically, activate it, and try to get some convicting evidence,
> or at least drain the power so that it's useless.
>
Google 'mafia + cell + phone + justice + court' & read.
If anyone thinks this stuff is benign & simply a source of amusement,
they know nothing about history.
In article <457B04C3.B0B2455B@ddress.thatcanbespammed>, Notan took the
hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
> Ness net wrote:
> >
> > I may need to retract that previous statement.
> >
> > When this news broke, the articles I read were
> > specific about certain Nokia models and the
> > possibility of firmware on others.
> >
> > The stuff I just read seems to show differently.
> > Now, this it the press after all, so how much is actual
> > fact is debatable, but I'll retract my previous statement
> > anyway, considering...
> >
> > <snip>
>
> Until i see definitive documentation (i.e., something *other*
> than a press report), the batteries stay in.
>
> Notan
>
In article <edWdnROGtOLblubYnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@adelphia.com>, George took
the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
> Ness net wrote:
> > Absolutely false - and impossible.
> >
> > Yes, there has been some press on this, but to eavesdrop via call
> > phone takes a special phone, or specific firmware to do it.
> >
> > I suggest you actually read the articles on this.
> >
> >
> > "trippy" <silverbells@tacoshells.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1fe4b847d021fca9897d8@news.alt.net...
> >> They can activate the mic on your phone whether your power is on or off.
> >>
>
> It seems like you are unfamiliar with the rules of logic. You can never
> prove that something can't happen or doesn't exist.
>
> A phone is a computerized device and the "power button" does not
> physically turn off the power. It is most definitely possible to program
> a device to do something without turning the UI on or displaying the
> activity on the UI thus something can be donn without the knowledge of
> the user.
>
Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in
news:94frn256dkqcmjqm0q521bgp608vpqg69l@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:46:25 -0600, RLan
> <RLan.2iivs1@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>How do I disable the GPS in my VX 8300.
>>
>>I dont like broadcasting my location to some database every 2
>>minutes....or how can I effectively jam the signal. I am retired and at
>>most go to my American Legion meetings or things like that but I hate
>>knowing some government entity has a need to know my daily activities
>>..... I know phones have this built in......I want to disable it.
>>Permanently. I have no dishonorable intent.....I have an intense
>>distrust ....
>>
>>Thank you in advance
>
> Line your American Legion cap with tin foil. That will fix it.
>
"RLan" <RLan.2iivs1@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote in message
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>
> How do I disable the GPS in my VX 8300.
>
> I dont like broadcasting my location to some database every 2
> minutes....or how can I effectively jam the signal. I am retired and at
> most go to my American Legion meetings or things like that but I hate
> knowing some government entity has a need to know my daily activities