How to have a Static IP address placed on your Verizon Smartphone

FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP address
on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the business department
has to do it and a one time fee of $500.

BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then you
don't need one.

Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP address
> on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the business department
> has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>
> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then you
> don't need one.

What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?

You can actually use a ddns app as well

Justin wrote:
> Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
>> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>>
>> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
>> you don't need one.
>
> What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?
>
> You can actually use a ddns app as well
>
Oops. You had to ask. You don't need one. :-)

Carl wrote on [Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:04:36 -0400]:
> Justin wrote:
>> Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
>>> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>>> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>>> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>>>
>>> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
>>> you don't need one.
>>
>> What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?
>>
>> You can actually use a ddns app as well
>>
> Oops. You had to ask. You don't need one. :-)

No, I don't need one, but I can imagine why someone would.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:4e21625f$0$10683$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Justin wrote:
>> Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
>>> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>>> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>>> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>>>
>>> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
>>> you don't need one.
>>
>> What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?
>>
>> You can actually use a ddns app as well
>>
> Oops. You had to ask. You don't need one. :-)

Exactly.

It is clear Justin has never setup a router with remote access that is
locked to just one external IP address or he has never setup a remote access
program so it only works with one IP address.

BTW Verizon is not the only cell phone provider that offers a Static IP
address for a cell phone but they are the only ones I know of that want a
Tax ID for a Static IP.

At 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:
> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>
> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then you
> don't need one.


Ouch. No extra monthly fees though? I think AT&T offers the same deal:
$500 setup fee per address and nothing extra (over regular data plan
costs) per month.


I assume you can't get away with using a redirector like DynDNS instead?
I once ran a websserver (by Sphinx software) on my Windows Mobile phone
using DynDNS to direct to it (just as a proof of concept for a few hours-
it beat the crap out of the battery since the server software, which was
designed for old Pocket PC PDAs required the phone to stay on and not
sleep in standby.)

Roger 2008 wrote on [Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:52:52 -0500]:
>
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4e21625f$0$10683$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Justin wrote:
>>> Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
>>>> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>>>> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>>>> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>>>>
>>>> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
>>>> you don't need one.
>>>
>>> What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?
>>>
>>> You can actually use a ddns app as well
>>>
>> Oops. You had to ask. You don't need one. :-)
>
> Exactly.
>
> It is clear Justin has never setup a router with remote access that is
> locked to just one external IP address or he has never setup a remote access
> program so it only works with one IP address.

Yes, I have. I was curious as to what the reason behind needing a $500 extra
fee on a smartphone plan was, when you can use other solutions.

"Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:ivsh9n$f3p$1@dont-email.me...
> Roger 2008 wrote on [Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:52:52 -0500]:
>>
>> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:4e21625f$0$10683$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> Justin wrote:
>>>> Roger 2008 wrote on [Fri, 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500]:
>>>>> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>>>>> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>>>>> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
>>>>> you don't need one.
>>>>
>>>> What's your use case for needing a static IP on your phone? VPN?
>>>>
>>>> You can actually use a ddns app as well
>>>>
>>> Oops. You had to ask. You don't need one. :-)
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> It is clear Justin has never setup a router with remote access that is
>> locked to just one external IP address or he has never setup a remote
>> access
>> program so it only works with one IP address.
>
> Yes, I have. I was curious as to what the reason behind needing a $500
> extra
> fee on a smartphone plan was, when you can use other solutions.

FYI my phone call to Verizon was checking for "other solutions."

At 16 Jul 2011 17:20:19 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:ivsg9o$9ol$3@dont-email.me...
> > At 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:
> >> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
> >> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
> >> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
> >>
> >> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
you
> >> don't need one.
> >
> >
> > Ouch. No extra monthly fees though? I think AT&T offers the same
deal:
> > $500 setup fee per address and nothing extra (over regular data plan
> > costs) per month.
> >
> >
> > I assume you can't get away with using a redirector like DynDNS
instead?
> > I once ran a websserver (by Sphinx software) on my Windows Mobile
phone
> > using DynDNS to direct to it (just as a proof of concept for a few
hours-
> > it beat the crap out of the battery since the server software, which
was
> > designed for old Pocket PC PDAs required the phone to stay on and not
> > sleep in standby.)
>
> Do you have a link to that software?

http://www.sphinx-soft.com/MWS/ppc.html


> I tried vxWeb and I'd be willing to
> try something else because I did not like the way vxWeb dealt with
> directories.
> http://www.cambridgevx.com/vxweb.html


IIRC, the free version of the server uses a fixed folder structure, but
the paid version lets you use whatever folders you want.

>
> BTW the patch at the following site might allow you to use WiFi in
Standby
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446175
>
> but that patch does not always work.


I wanted it to just use the cell connection, but the server quit whenever
the phone (my old Wizard, which tells you how long ago I did this!) when
into standby.


> Plus I know other cell phone providers block all the ports on their
dynamic
> IPs and only block port 80 on their Static IP addresses. Darn, I
forgot to
> ask Verizon if they block any ports on their Static IP addresses.


There's some trickery DynDNS uses to get around the cell provider's
blocking of incoming connections (Dyn acts as a "bridge"- your mobile's
outgoing connection to DynDNS acts as the incoming connection.)

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:j00ok6$qdg$1@dont-email.me...
> At 16 Jul 2011 17:20:19 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:
>>
>> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
>> news:ivsg9o$9ol$3@dont-email.me...
>> > At 15 Jul 2011 20:05:22 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:
>> >> FYI I made a call today to find out what it takes to put a Static IP
>> >> address on a Verizon phone and it is one Tax ID number since the
>> >> business department has to do it and a one time fee of $500.
>> >>
>> >> BTW if you have to ask what a Static IP address can be use for then
> you
>> >> don't need one.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ouch. No extra monthly fees though? I think AT&T offers the same
> deal:
>> > $500 setup fee per address and nothing extra (over regular data plan
>> > costs) per month.
>> >
>> >
>> > I assume you can't get away with using a redirector like DynDNS
> instead?
>> > I once ran a websserver (by Sphinx software) on my Windows Mobile
> phone
>> > using DynDNS to direct to it (just as a proof of concept for a few
> hours-
>> > it beat the crap out of the battery since the server software, which
> was
>> > designed for old Pocket PC PDAs required the phone to stay on and not
>> > sleep in standby.)
>>
>> Do you have a link to that software?
>
> http://www.sphinx-soft.com/MWS/ppc.html

Thanks and I'll try to look into that when I have more time. But one thing
I learned from using vxWeb was it was too slow for photos taken by the phone
itself.

>> I tried vxWeb and I'd be willing to
>> try something else because I did not like the way vxWeb dealt with
>> directories.
>> http://www.cambridgevx.com/vxweb.html
>
>
> IIRC, the free version of the server uses a fixed folder structure, but
> the paid version lets you use whatever folders you want.

I have the paid version and it lets me use all sorts of different folders as
long as I make a list of the folders I want to use and place them into a
particular file. In other words I'm used to Internet Servers where you just
make a folder and it can be used instantly.

>> BTW the patch at the following site might allow you to use WiFi in
> Standby
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446175
>>
>> but that patch does not always work.
>
>
> I wanted it to just use the cell connection, but the server quit whenever
> the phone (my old Wizard, which tells you how long ago I did this!) when
> into standby.
>
>
>> Plus I know other cell phone providers block all the ports on their
> dynamic
>> IPs and only block port 80 on their Static IP addresses. Darn, I
> forgot to
>> ask Verizon if they block any ports on their Static IP addresses.
>
>
> There's some trickery DynDNS uses to get around the cell provider's
> blocking of incoming connections (Dyn acts as a "bridge"- your mobile's
> outgoing connection to DynDNS acts as the incoming connection.)

Interesting.

At 18 Jul 2011 07:52:46 -0500 Roger 2008 wrote:


> Thanks and I'll try to look into that when I have more time. But one
thing
> I learned from using vxWeb was it was too slow for photos taken by the
phone
> itself.
>
> >> I tried vxWeb and I'd be willing to
> >> try something else because I did not like the way vxWeb dealt with
> >> directories.
> >> http://www.cambridgevx.com/vxweb.html
> >
> >
> > IIRC, the free version of the server uses a fixed folder structure,
but
> > the paid version lets you use whatever folders you want.
>
> I have the paid version and it lets me use all sorts of different
folders as
> long as I make a list of the folders I want to use and place them into
a
> particular file. In other words I'm used to Internet Servers where you
just
> make a folder and it can be used instantly.

Sorry, I was talking about Sphinx. The folder structure in the free
version is predefined, but you can customize it in the paid version.