I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I
want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the 4G
RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from CDMA
to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
phone was Europe ready.
Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:50226c7d$0$1472$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astrawe b.com...
>I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
>
> I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I want
> to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock the SIM
> and I could get one over there for better rates.
>
> What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the 4G
> RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from CDMA to
> GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
>
> There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
>
> I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
> VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the phone
> was Europe ready.
>
> Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
> Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
>
> If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
>
> TIA
No matter what the Rep, or the website, says: if using only the CDMA radio,
the phone will not work in a country that doesn't have a CDMA network.
The "global" setting automatically switches between networks (CDMA and GSM),
turning on and using the GSM radio, and the SIM, when that's all there is.
You said: "the 4G RAZR is completely global capable without my having to
switch from CDMA to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had".
But: that's exactly what you are doing (switching; or at least enabling GSM
failover) when you select the "global" setting, rather than the one for CDMA
only.
On 8/8/12 9:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
>
> I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I
> want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
> the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
>
> What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the 4G
> RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from CDMA
> to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
>
> There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
>
> I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
> VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
> phone was Europe ready.
>
> Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
> Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
>
> If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
>
> TIA
>
Don't worry your pretty little head, honey. SEND to talk, END to hang
up. That's it ;-)
--
The more is given, the less the people will work for themselves and the
less they work, the more their poverty will increase.
--Leo Tolstoy
On 8/8/2012 6:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
>
> I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I
> want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
> the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
>
> What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the 4G
> RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from CDMA
> to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
>
> There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
>
> I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
> VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
> phone was Europe ready.
>
> Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
> Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
>
> If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
It automatically switches between GSM and CDMA based on the availability
of networks. Perhaps it looks for all available networks, perhaps it's
based on the GPS coordinates.
Is there a way to force it to GSM? If not, what happens when you're in a
foreign country with both CDMA and GSM (many Asian countries like
Taiwan, China, India, & Israel have both). You don't want to buy a
prepaid SIM in one of those countries then have the phone decide to do
international roaming on a CDMA network at $1.99/minute versus 5¢/minute
for the prepaid SIM card.
At 08 Aug 2012 08:01:11 -0700 SMS wrote:
> On 8/8/2012 6:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
> >
> > I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only andI
> > want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
> > the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
> >
> > What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the
4G
> > RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from
CDMA
> > to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
> >
> > There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
> >
> > I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
> > VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
> > phone was Europe ready.
> >
> > Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will workin
> > Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
> >
> > If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
>
> It automatically switches between GSM and CDMA based on the
> availability of networks. Perhaps it looks for all available networks,
> perhaps it's based on the GPS coordinates.
>
> Is there a way to force it to GSM? If not, what happens when you're in
> a foreign country with both CDMA and GSM (many Asian countries like
> Taiwan, China, India, & Israel have both). You don't want to buy a
> prepaid SIM in one of those countries then have the phone decide to do
> international roaming on a CDMA network at $1.99/minute versus
> 5¢/minute for the prepaid SIM card.
Arguably, from Verizon's perspective, that's a "feature".
In Verizon's defense, however, I wonder if "GSM Only" is a suppressed
menu item that only becomes visible if a non-Verizon SIM is inserted.
Many of my AT&T-branded GSM phones suddenly grew extra menu items if I
replaced the AT&T SIM with another carrier's.
This theory makes some sense, since there'd be no advantage to the
customer or Verizon if a roamer like Janet accidentally set the phone on
GSM only. Presumably between the phone PRL and the Verizon/Voda SIM, the
phone knows what carrier to select when roaming, and everyone involvedis
better off letting the phone handle it.
On 8/8/2012 8:22 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 08 Aug 2012 08:01:11 -0700 SMS wrote:
>> On 8/8/2012 6:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
>>>
>>> I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I
>>> want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
>>> the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
>>>
>>> What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the
> 4G
>>> RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from
> CDMA
>>> to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
>>>
>>> There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
>>>
>>> I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
>>> VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
>>> phone was Europe ready.
>>>
>>> Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
>>> Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
>>>
>>> If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
>>
>> It automatically switches between GSM and CDMA based on the
>> availability of networks. Perhaps it looks for all available networks,
>> perhaps it's based on the GPS coordinates.
>>
>> Is there a way to force it to GSM? If not, what happens when you're in
>> a foreign country with both CDMA and GSM (many Asian countries like
>> Taiwan, China, India, & Israel have both). You don't want to buy a
>> prepaid SIM in one of those countries then have the phone decide to do
>> international roaming on a CDMA network at $1.99/minute versus
>> 5¢/minute for the prepaid SIM card.
>
> Arguably, from Verizon's perspective, that's a "feature".
>
> In Verizon's defense, however, I wonder if "GSM Only" is a suppressed
> menu item that only becomes visible if a non-Verizon SIM is inserted.
> Many of my AT&T-branded GSM phones suddenly grew extra menu items if I
> replaced the AT&T SIM with another carrier's.
>
> This theory makes some sense, since there'd be no advantage to the
> customer or Verizon if a roamer like Janet accidentally set the phone on
> GSM only. Presumably between the phone PRL and the Verizon/Voda SIM, the
> phone knows what carrier to select when roaming, and everyone involved is
> better off letting the phone handle it.
>
Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like my
old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA, GSM and
"Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
On 8/9/2012 10:37 AM, XS11E wrote:
> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
>> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
>> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
>
> Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
> money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
> course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>
> But you already knew that, right?
>
>
>
I already knew that. AAMOF, VZW said they will unlock the phone if I
wanted to do that.
I'm going on a cruise and will only be in each country a brief time. I
need the phone for contact between myself and hired, private tour
companies *if* there is a problem with the plans. Unless there is a
medical emergency, like we had a few years ago in Sicily, I won't be
using the phone. The bill I ran up in Sicily was covered by the travel
insurance policy.
Phone will otherwise be forwarding to Google Voice.
If I were to go trekking about any one particular country, I'd get a SIM
card, learn the phone number in advance and set up the home and cell
phones to forward.
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:37:32 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
>> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
>> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
>
>Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
>money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
>course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
Or to put it another way, the more calls you make the more you'll
spend?
> Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
> money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
> course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>
> But you already knew that, right?
I can't speak for the ROW, but at least in the Asian countries I've been
to the wireless carriers are making it very easy to buy SIM cards. When
we were in Shanghai in June the hostel we were staying in sold SIM cards
and they were not gouging, it was the same price as convenience stores.
However I later learned that if I had gone to the China Unicom store I
could have bought a prepaid SIM that also supported data and it wasn't
tremendously more expensive.
There are other reasons to get a local SIM card besides saving money for
yourself. If you want others to be able to call your phone it's better
to have a local number. We did a lot of calling (we had four people each
with an unlocked phone with a local SIM card). But we were on our own,
not on an organized tour (well we were on a tour that I organized).
International roaming is fine if you're extremely wealthy, but even then
it's not a way I'd want to spend money.
I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
<http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
On 8/9/2012 9:35 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 8/9/2012 10:37 AM, XS11E wrote:
>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
>>> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
>>> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
>>
>> Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
>> money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
>> course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>>
>> But you already knew that, right?
>>
>>
>>
> I already knew that. AAMOF, VZW said they will unlock the phone if I
> wanted to do that.
>
> I'm going on a cruise and will only be in each country a brief time. I
> need the phone for contact between myself and hired, private tour
> companies *if* there is a problem with the plans. Unless there is a
> medical emergency, like we had a few years ago in Sicily, I won't be
> using the phone. The bill I ran up in Sicily was covered by the travel
> insurance policy.
>
> Phone will otherwise be forwarding to Google Voice.
Do you forward and unforward it on Verizon's web site? Otherwise you
can't receive calls because they will all go directly to Google Voice
rather than to your Verizon cell phone. Unfortunately, Verizon doesn't
offer a "forward if no answer" option.
> If I were to go trekking about any one particular country, I'd get a SIM
> card,
You can buy a multi-country SIM card that costs more than
country-specific SIM cards, but that is still far less expensive than
international roaming. But you already knew that, right? If you're using
the phone rarely, if ever, than it's better to just do international
roaming.
> learn the phone number in advance and set up the home and cell
> phones to forward.
With a service like Localphone, you don't need to know any SIM card
phone numbers in advance. Once you buy the SIM card you go online and
change the forwarding. You pay for a local number in the U.S. to forward
you home and cell phones to. You could also rent local numbers in other
countries but that's probably not necessary.
Unfortunately, Google Voice does not allow forwarding to international
numbers, so a service like Localphone is necessary to accomplish this.
At 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700 sms88 wrote:
> On 8/9/2012 8:37 AM, XS11E wrote:
>
> > Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
> > money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
> > course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
> >
> > But you already knew that, right?
>
> I can't speak for the ROW, but at least in the Asian countries I've
been to the wireless carriers are making it very easy to buy SIM cards.
When we were in Shanghai in June the hostel we were staying in sold SIM
cards and they were not gouging, it was the same price as convenience
stores. However I later learned that if I had gone to the China Unicom
store I could have bought a prepaid SIM that also supported data and it
wasn't tremendously more expensive.
>
> There are other reasons to get a local SIM card besides saving money
for yourself. If you want others to be able to call your phone it's
better to have a local number. We did a lot of calling (we had four
people each with an unlocked phone with a local SIM card). But we were on
our own, not on an organized tour (well we were on a tour that I
organized).
>
> International roaming is fine if you're extremely wealthy, but even
then it's not a way I'd want to spend money.
>
> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
<http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
But again, it depends how much you plan to use the phone. The last time
I spent a week in Mexico, I used 3 cellular minutes at $1.49/minute
roaming. There isn't a Mexican SIM I could buy for $4.50. (I used quite
a bit of Skype on free hotel WiFi, however.)
As Janet says, if everything on the trip goes well, she won't use the
phone at all, which will be cheaper than the cheapest SIM she can buy!
> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
Nice page, thanks. A tiny nit to pick, though, with the line there saying
: You can only use prepaid SIM cards from foreign carriers in an
: unlocked GSM phone that supports 900MHz and 1800MHz bands ...
The "unlocked" part I agree with. And "900 and 1800 MHz bands" are
necessary in Europe and Asia. But for Ecuador, the US domestic 850 MHz band
is sometimes the only GSM frequency available, as my spouse and I found out
near the Galapagos Islands, where a quad-band phone was fine, but an older
tri-band phone, that omitted the 850 MHz band, was just dead in the water.
Similar caveat may apply to other parts of South and Central America, too.
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:37:32 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
>>> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
>>> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
>>
>>Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
>>money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
>>course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>
> Or to put it another way, the more calls you make the more you'll
> spend?
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 06:20:27 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:37:32 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday morning, the phone got a huge update. It now looks like
>>>> my old global dumb phone on the menu. It has 3 categories: CDMA,
>>>> GSM and "Global" I now feel much more confident. :-)
>>>
>>>Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
>>>money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
>>>course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>>
>> Or to put it another way, the more calls you make the more you'll
>> spend?
>
>No.
On 8/9/2012 9:46 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>
> Nice page, thanks. A tiny nit to pick, though, with the line there saying
>
> : You can only use prepaid SIM cards from foreign carriers in an
> : unlocked GSM phone that supports 900MHz and 1800MHz bands ...
Thanks. Please nitpick. I will not be offended! I think I fixed it
sufficiently.
One thing I just recently found out is that Verizon now allows you to
set up forwarding online (none of the other major carriers mention this
capability). Alas the same doesn't apply to Pageplus.
On 8/9/2012 11:46 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>
> Nice page, thanks. A tiny nit to pick, though, with the line there saying
>
> : You can only use prepaid SIM cards from foreign carriers in an
> : unlocked GSM phone that supports 900MHz and 1800MHz bands ...
>
> The "unlocked" part I agree with. And "900 and 1800 MHz bands" are
> necessary in Europe and Asia. But for Ecuador, the US domestic 850 MHz band
> is sometimes the only GSM frequency available, as my spouse and I found out
> near the Galapagos Islands, where a quad-band phone was fine, but an older
> tri-band phone, that omitted the 850 MHz band, was just dead in the water.
>
> Similar caveat may apply to other parts of South and Central America, too.
>
That's what happened to me in South America last winter. The old global
phone was not a quad band and did not work in Argentina or Chile, but
did work in Uruguay. That's why I got the new global Android.
> On 8/8/2012 6:41 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> I activated my new RAZR last night. This phone comes with a SIM card.
>>
>> I want the phone for use in Europe for emergency purposes only and I
>> want to keep my own number, however, if I wanted it, VZW would unlock
>> the SIM and I could get one over there for better rates.
>>
>> What startled me, and I still have problems believing it, is that the 4G
>> RAZR is completely global capable without my having to switch from CDMA
>> to GSM like I did on the old global dumb phone I had.
>>
>> There are two settings one for the "global" and one for CDMA only.
>>
>> I did not believe the rep so I went to VZW's web site:
>> VerizonWireless.com/TripPlanner and entered my phone. It said the
>> phone was Europe ready.
>>
>> Now, I need someone who can explain to me how this phone will work in
>> Italy and Greece and Turkey. Is it that "quad band" thing?
>>
>> If I understand the technology, I'll feel more secure.
>
> It automatically switches between GSM and CDMA based on the availability
> of networks. Perhaps it looks for all available networks, perhaps it's
> based on the GPS coordinates.
>
> Is there a way to force it to GSM? If not, what happens when you're in a
> foreign country with both CDMA and GSM (many Asian countries like
> Taiwan, China, India, & Israel have both). You don't want to buy a
> prepaid SIM in one of those countries then have the phone decide to do
> international roaming on a CDMA network at $1.99/minute versus 5¢/minute
> for the prepaid SIM card.
On the BlackBerry 8830, it will only use a foreign SIM card. I tried an
AT&T SIM card in it and it said "Unrcognized SIM inserted". So it knows
when a valid SIM is installed. At least, the BlackBerry does. It would be
interesting to see if the OP can get hers to work in the US.
--
Ronald Reagan didn't spend his whole first term blaming Jimmy Carter.
> On 8/9/2012 8:37 AM, XS11E wrote:
>
>> Regardless of what it does or how it works I think you'll still save
>> money by buying a prepaid SIM for it when you're overseas and, of
>> course, the more calls you make the more you'll save.
>>
>> But you already knew that, right?
>
> I can't speak for the ROW, but at least in the Asian countries I've been
> to the wireless carriers are making it very easy to buy SIM cards. When
> we were in Shanghai in June the hostel we were staying in sold SIM cards
> and they were not gouging, it was the same price as convenience stores.
> However I later learned that if I had gone to the China Unicom store I
> could have bought a prepaid SIM that also supported data and it wasn't
> tremendously more expensive.
>
> There are other reasons to get a local SIM card besides saving money for
> yourself. If you want others to be able to call your phone it's better
> to have a local number. We did a lot of calling (we had four people each
> with an unlocked phone with a local SIM card). But we were on our own,
> not on an organized tour (well we were on a tour that I organized).
>
> International roaming is fine if you're extremely wealthy, but even then
> it's not a way I'd want to spend money.
>
> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
Well done, my er...friend.
--
Ronald Reagan didn't spend his whole first term blaming Jimmy Carter.
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:07:29 -0400, hachiroku wrote:
> ...
> On the BlackBerry 8830, it will only use a foreign SIM card. I tried an
> AT&T SIM card in it and it said "Unrcognized SIM inserted". So it knows
> when a valid SIM is installed. At least, the BlackBerry does. It would be
> interesting to see if the OP can get hers to work in the US.
Just to check: the AT&T SIM card you tried above -- was currently active?
I.e., was currently able to be recognized in some other GSM handset?
TIA for that clarification. Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
Hi, According to me, The GSM and the CDMA technologies are different. But there are service which gives us the Phone compatible with both the technologies. But provided with sim for GSM and CDMA. The main point On cdma is, cant unlock to use the cdma network out of the nation we belongs to.. But the GSM can be unlocked and we can use the phone internationally. When I had a GSM phone which is locked to orange UK, has been unlocked through a site where i got my phone permanently unlocked. If wanted to use a phone internationally, instead of going for a GSM CDMA compatible phone, Either we should have bought a GSM which can be unlocked or we should have bought a unlocked phone directly, even we spend a bit more penny. If we would have done any of the two things, definitely we could have been free from hassles while we go internationally. Thanks.
On 8/13/2012 11:14 PM, hachiroku wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>
> Well done, my er...friend.
I get a 404 "not found" error for that URL. I'd like to see the site.
On 8/13/2012 11:07 PM, hachiroku wrote:
It would be
> interesting to see if the OP can get hers to work in the US.
>
I'm the OP. There is no way the global phone will work on the GSM side
in the US. It will only work with VZW partners, such as Vodaphone, in
Europe.
The reason I use VZW is so that I can connect everywhere in the US. I've
been many places where GSM phones don't work and my VZW CDMA phone does.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:502a614e$0$1502$c3e8da3$f5af001f@news.astrawe b.com...
> On 8/13/2012 11:14 PM, hachiroku wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>>
>> Well done, my er...friend.
>
> I get a 404 "not found" error for that URL. I'd like to see the site.
>
Link works for me...
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:31:43 -0500, Janet Wilder
<kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 8/13/2012 11:14 PM, hachiroku wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>>
>> Well done, my er...friend.
>
>I get a 404 "not found" error for that URL. I'd like to see the site.
Try <http://nordicgroup.us/internationalcalling/> in case your browser
is stumbling over the half-baked tinyurl redirection.
Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 8/13/2012 11:14 PM, hachiroku wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:43:13 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>>> I put together a web site on international calling strategies, see
>>> <http://tinyurl.com/internationalcallingstrategies>.
>>
>> Well done, my er...friend.
>
> I get a 404 "not found" error for that URL. I'd like to see the site.
>
>
>
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On 8/14/2012 7:34 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 8/13/2012 11:07 PM, hachiroku wrote:
> It would be
>> interesting to see if the OP can get hers to work in the US.
>>
>
> I'm the OP. There is no way the global phone will work on the GSM side
> in the US. It will only work with VZW partners, such as Vodaphone, in
> Europe.
There are people that have unlocked global phones for use in the U.S..
They are quad-band.
> The reason I use VZW is so that I can connect everywhere in the US. I've
> been many places where GSM phones don't work and my VZW CDMA phone does.
Very true. In the U.S. avoid any carrier other than Verizon (or their
MVNOs) at all costs.
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:13:30 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>On 8/14/2012 7:34 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> The reason I use VZW is so that I can connect everywhere in the US. I've
>> been many places where GSM phones don't work and my VZW CDMA phone does.
>
>Very true. In the U.S. avoid any carrier other than Verizon (or their
>MVNOs) at all costs.
Reasonable advice for people who travel extensively, but for the vast
majority of us who live, work, and play in and around one of the major
metro areas and/or travel via major highways, any of the well known
providers will likely work fine.
At 14 Aug 2012 10:13:30 -0700 SMS wrote:
> On 8/14/2012 7:34 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> > On 8/13/2012 11:07 PM, hachiroku wrote:
> > It would be
> >> interesting to see if the OP can get hers to work in the US.
> >>
> >
> > I'm the OP. There is no way the global phone will work on the GSM
side
> > in the US. It will only work with VZW partners, such as Vodaphone, in
> > Europe.
>
> There are people that have unlocked global phones for use in the U.S..
> They are quad-band.
>
> > The reason I use VZW is so that I can connect everywhere in the US.
I've
> > been many places where GSM phones don't work and my VZW CDMA phone
does.
>
> Very true. In the U.S. avoid any carrier other than Verizon (or their
> MVNOs) at all costs.
Ironically, many of us avoid Verizon because of their "all costs."
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