iPhone is the Invention of the YEAR - TIME Magazine

Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UVhNgnnVf8
> >
> >it's a wonderful feature and saves you the stress if you lose your
> >iphone, you just connect up another one and you are back in "sync"
> >within minutes.
>
> Ouch, that doesn't sound good to me at all. Hopefully the 'auto' part
> of auto-sync can be disabled and the other parts can be individually
> selected.

of course! it gives you plenty of control over those aspects, watch the
video about 3:15 minutes in.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UVhNgnnVf8

even if you auto sync, it still comes up with a nice selection box
letting you choose what info is most current, that way it's easy to keep
your machine and phone in perfect sync.

> >You'll get one in the next couple years, so just hang tight!
>
> Very doubtful, but thanks for the unbridled optimism! <g> You never
> know, I guess. I could be back here in a year or three with a very
> different opinion.

okay, great! take care...

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> > then how about someone posting the info?
> >
> > why is it so hard for everyone, including you?
>
> It's not hard.
>
> Others have.

Not on USENET, not in any published books, not on the internet, not by
word of mouth. Only you know the connection.

> Me, I'm waiting for you to show us PROOF of what an expert you are in
> the history of Apple and personal computing, like you claim.

The burden of proof is on you. You claimed she had some kind of
"crucial" role with steve/apple. You can't provide that information
since it doesn't exist.

I've got you cornered and since nobody else can come up with any
connection to her and Apple, it's up to you.

We'll be laughing until you provide it, then probably STILL be laughing
when you try and claim some kind of flimsy connection.

I do feel sorry for you Elmo, but with my expertise in the Apple history
realm, I have you caught in a lie. Not a good place to be, but you like
to be there for some reason.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> > > You refused to see it.
> >
> > i don't read or see every post. so could you repost the link?
>
> Bullshit.
>
> You see and read every post.

actually I don't. i've killfiled about 15 people, so if it's one of
them, i didn't see it.

post the name of the user, bet you can't!

> The one with the information on it just
> didn't make any sense to you, even when it was thrust in your face.

no, i understand all aspects of apple history, it's just you have been
caught in a lie and can't get out.

-

"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> "Pen names" - my ass!!
> They are SOCK PUPPETS - plain and simple. You can call then what
> you want - it changes nothing. Just like your iPhone drivel. Why do you
> feel you have to use multiple names? This is certainly schizoid or some
> other mental disorder - there is no excuse for this.
>
> The shit you post has NO value whatsoever. It is supposition, it is pure
> fanatical fanboy fantasy and it is highly delusional. The fact that you feel
> you have to pollute other groups with your fiction is indicative of just
> what
> a huge asshole you are.

i'm just the messenger, the pen name shouldn't matter to anyone. the
info is what is so valuable to everyone with a cell phone.

someday you too will have an iphone and then you'll understand why
people want to know more about it.

check out this link for further information:

http://www.iphone.com/

In article <PIGdnZRJYoK3tbDanZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> "Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
> news:im-955C61.15080103112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
> >
> > You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.
> >
> > You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
> > other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
> > Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.
> >
> > So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.
> >
>
> Au contraire, I'm completely rational.
> Just irritated that I have to continue to endure your wacky fanboy
> fantasies.
> The fact that you consider your inane drivel rational, is the real joke
> here.
>
> My CHOICE is to wonder why you see the need to use sock puppets.
> And make yourself look foolish - (more so than you have already)
>
> My CHOICE is to KNOW, beyond ANY doubt that you are a troll, a moron
> and that you suffer from delusions of some kind. Thinking you know all
> when in fact it has been demonstrated, time and time again - you know
> zip, nada, zilch.
>
> Oh, BTW, your infallible Apple - ISN'T - Leopard Has More Holes than Spots
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895...LBOE110307STR1
>
> Leopard's firewall is a mess, say researchers, shutting off by default and
> allowing connections even under "block all."
>
> Security has slipped backwards on the evolutionary ladder in Apple's latest
> Mac OS X release, security researchers say, with Leopard's firewall having
> more holes than its namesake cat has spots.
>
> "The short answer is the Leopard firewall is ... ugly and a step backwards
> from 10.4," said Rich Mogull, an independent security consultant .

Wall Street Journal likes it

http://tinyurl.com/2re7nw

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In news:labolide-0BB5BA.17184204112007@news.giganews.com,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> typed:
> In article <PIGdnZRJYoK3tbDanZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> "Bill Gates" <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in message
>> news:im-955C61.15080103112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
>>>
>>> You don't seem rational on this topic or about your future.
>>>
>>> You need to LEARN about Apple's iPhone in every way you can! there is no
>>> other choice at this point. Look at what happened to every other Music
>>> Player, Apple is going to DO THE SAME thing to the Cell Industry.
>>>
>>> So complain or accept, those are your 2 choices.
>>>
>>
>> Au contraire, I'm completely rational.
>> Just irritated that I have to continue to endure your wacky fanboy
>> fantasies.
>> The fact that you consider your inane drivel rational, is the real joke
>> here.
>>
>> My CHOICE is to wonder why you see the need to use sock puppets.
>> And make yourself look foolish - (more so than you have already)
>>
>> My CHOICE is to KNOW, beyond ANY doubt that you are a troll, a moron
>> and that you suffer from delusions of some kind. Thinking you know all
>> when in fact it has been demonstrated, time and time again - you know
>> zip, nada, zilch.
>>
>> Oh, BTW, your infallible Apple - ISN'T - Leopard Has More Holes than
>> Spots
>>
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895...LBOE110307STR1
>>
>> Leopard's firewall is a mess, say researchers, shutting off by default
>> and allowing connections even under "block all."
>>
>> Security has slipped backwards on the evolutionary ladder in Apple's
>> latest Mac OS X release, security researchers say, with Leopard's
>> firewall having more holes than its namesake cat has spots.
>>
>> "The short answer is the Leopard firewall is ... ugly and a step
>> backwards from 10.4," said Rich Mogull, an independent security
>> consultant .
>
> Wall Street Journal likes it
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2re7nw


WALTER S. MOSSBERG wrote in the Wall Street Journal what he thinks about
Leopard after using a advance release.

LISA VAAS wrote in eWeek.com an analysis of what has been learned about
Leopard since it has been released and lots of people have evaluated it.

Now I know, for sure, that you are only joking.


"none" <a@bc.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:a-5E79CE.08293304112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
> "BG" <borje@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> iphone is a teenagers toy... nice looking but very little of a phone...
>
> it's currently the world's most powerful smartphone, you'll be shocked
> at how well designed it is. europe and asia is around a decade behind in
> features, size and usability.
>
> europe will all a buzz about from next week on. both the UK and Germany
> are going to start having them next week.
>
> Get Ready for iPhone
> iPhone arrives on June 29. iPhone features an amazing mobile phone, is
> the best iPod we've ever created, and puts the Internet in your pocket
> with desktop-class email, web browsing, searching, and maps. And iPhone
> makes it all easy to use with its revolutionary multi-touch user
> interface. iPhone syncs with your PC or Mac just like an iPod, so
> organizing your content now will help you start calling, texting,
> emailing, surfing, listening, and watching even faster when you get your
> iPhone. Here are a few suggestions to help you get ready:
>
> Contacts
> Making a call with iPhone is as simple as tapping a name. You won't need
> to re-enter all your contacts because iPhone syncs with the address book
> you already use on your computer
> Outlook or Outlook Express on a PC. If you keep your contacts on the web
> using Yahoo! Address Book, iPhone can sync with them, too. To get ready
> for iPhone, organize your contacts in one of these applications and make
> sure they're up to date with the latest phone numbers and email
> addresses. If you don't have contacts on your computer, don't worry. You
> can still enter them directly into iPhone.
>
> Calendar
> Using its built-in calendar, iPhone lets you check your appointments
> with the flick of a finger. iPhone uses iTunes to sync with the calendar
> application you already use on your computer > Mac, or Outlook on a PC >
> don't already use one of these applications to manage your appointments,
> now is a great time to start, so you'll be ready to sync when your
> iPhone arrives. If you choose not to use a calendar program, that's OK.
> You'll be able to enter appointments directly into the iPhone calendar.
>
> Email
> iPhone is the first phone to come with a desktop-class email
> application. So now your phone can display rich HTML email with graphics
> and photos alongside the text. iPhone will even fetch your latest email
> every time you open the application and automatically retrieve your
> email on a set schedule, just like a computer does. iPhone works with
> the most popular email systems > .Mac Mail. If you're not already using
> one of these services, now would
> be a great time to get an account. iTunes will make email setup on
> iPhone a breeze by automatically syncing the settings from email
> accounts stored in Mail on a Mac or Outlook on a PC. Don't worry if
> you're not on one of these email services; iPhone also works with almost
> any industry-standard POP3 and IMAP email system.
>
> Photos
> iPhone has a 2-megapixel camera and a gorgeous 3.5-inch display, so it's
> a great way to enjoy and show off your digital photos. iPhone uses
> iTunes to sync your photos from iPhoto on a Mac or Adobe Photoshop
> Elements, Adobe Photoshop Album, or any picture folder on a PC. You can
> carry thousands of photos on iPhone, but you can start by creating an
> album or two with 50 to 100 of your favorite photos, so that when you
> first sync your iPhone, you'll be ready to quickly show off some of your
> best shots.
>
> Music and Video
> iPhone is the best iPod ever. Its beautiful, 3.5-inch widescreen display
> allows you to easily enjoy the music, TV shows, and movies you have in
> your iTunes library. If you already use iTunes, you can start getting
> ready for iPhone by creating a playlist of a few hundred of your
> favorite songs. If you don't have iTunes, now is a good time to download
> it and start a music and video library. That way, when you sync your
> iPhone with iTunes, you'll be able to take your favorite music, as well
> as a few of your TV shows and movies, with you wherever you go.
>
> iTunes Account
> To set up your iPhone, you'll need an account with Apple's iTunes Store.
> If you already have an iTunes account, make sure you know your account
> name and password. If you don't have an account, you should set one up
> now to save time later. To set up an account, launch iTunes, select the
> iTunes Store, and click the Sign In button in the upper right corner of
> iTunes. Sign in and you're ready to go.
>
> http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
>
> http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
>
> France is later in the month. Orange won the iphone account there.

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:

>
>
>Ron wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>> Newsgroup
>
>
>Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>the iBrick crap they drop here.

Ness Net is the troll.

Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.

Ron wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ron wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>>> Newsgroup
>>
>> Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>> the iBrick crap they drop here.
>
> Ness Net is the troll.
>
> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.

Where is "here"? Its the silly crossposting from the fanbois that think
it is relevant to cross post to alt.cellular.verizon and
alt.cellular.spritpcs both of which are carriers who use CDMA that
confuses things.

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:59:55 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Ron wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:13:13 -0400, News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ron wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:01:57 -0700, "Ness Net"
>>>> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Total BS against Leopard, which is totally irrelavant to this
>>>> Newsgroup
>>>
>>> Then call off your AAPL trolls since they don't want to have to smell
>>> the iBrick crap they drop here.
>>
>> Ness Net is the troll.
>>
>> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
>> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.
>
>Where is "here"? Its the silly crossposting from the fanbois that think
>it is relevant to cross post to alt.cellular.verizon and
>alt.cellular.spritpcs both of which are carriers who use CDMA that
>confuses things.


Iphone is relevant to any Cell phone discussion.
Links to articles by legitimate Tech writers is relevant.

One man's opinion about Leopard is not relevant in cell phone
discussion.

OP, if you have bought your phone through your service provider with a
new activation, you still have warranty to replace it. If you want to
go that route, then do so. However, I have heard people mention about
the battery issue as well as mediocre reception on this phone, as well
as similar models like the 6126 and 6131. If you don't want to deal
with what might happen to your possible 6133 replacement, you might want
to opt for another phone of equal value


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> Ness Net is the troll.
>
> Iphone is totally relevant here since ATT stores sell the iPhone. They
> do not yet sell Macintosh Computers and Operating Systems.

He's an alt.cellular.verizon regular, not an alt.cellular.attws regular, and
is most likely complaining about the posts in a.c.v as I have. While no one
with any common sense would argue that iPhone discussions areofftopic in the
at&t newsgroup, they're utterly and completely offtopic in the Verizon
newsgroup.

--
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"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-470A02.17583204112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> "Pen names" - my ass!!
>> They are SOCK PUPPETS - plain and simple. You can call then what
>> you want - it changes nothing. Just like your iPhone drivel. Why do you
>> feel you have to use multiple names? This is certainly schizoid or some
>> other mental disorder - there is no excuse for this.
>>
>> The shit you post has NO value whatsoever. It is supposition, it is pure
>> fanatical fanboy fantasy and it is highly delusional. The fact that you
>> feel
>> you have to pollute other groups with your fiction is indicative of just
>> what
>> a huge asshole you are.
>
> i'm just the messenger, the pen name shouldn't matter to anyone. the
> info is what is so valuable to everyone with a cell phone.
>
> someday you too will have an iphone and then you'll understand why
> people want to know more about it.
>
> check out this link for further information:
>
> http://www.iphone.com/

But.... sock puppets are NOT the way someone with ANY fraction of a brain
communicates. It only shows you to be a complete asshole - nothing more.

This iPhone shit has NO VALUE to me or most all of us on a CDMA group.
You post on alt.cell.verizon NOT to inform - you post to troll - period.

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:10:47 -0600, Gene Jones wrote:

> Tony <tony@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>>> No user-replaceable battery
>>>
>>> Incorrect, it's $20 for a user to replace the iPhone battery
>>
>> Doesn't it require the user to send the phone in to Apple, and then pay
>> for a rental iPhone if they cannot be without one for more than 10 days?
>> or has Apple changed their stance on it? I did say 'user-replaceable'...
>
> why would you do that? the iphone is just like the ipod, it's $20 for a
> new battery after 3-5 years, there are tons of video instructions on how
> to do it.

People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't keep
them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then that
they will just "have to have".

CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:

> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't keep
> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then that
> they will just "have to have".

sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.

plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.

sweet!

-

"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-414F2A.19144605112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>
>> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't
>> keep
>> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then
>> that
>> they will just "have to have".
>
> sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.

Untill it's droped.
>
> plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>
> sweet!
>
> -

How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
maybe two months. Oh, Oxford wrote this, that's why.

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> > smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> > active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
>
> Untill it's dropped.

nah, it can be dropped on concrete and won't break, that's been
demonstrated over and over. it's a little tank.

> > plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> > developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
> >
> > sweet!
> >
> > -
>
> How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
> maybe two months.

just look at apple products in general, they are extremely well
engineered and last for decades, the iphone will be no different.

"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-063E1A.20301205112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a
>> > regular
>> > smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
>> > active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.
>>
>> Untill it's dropped.
>
> nah, it can be dropped on concrete and won't break, that's been
> demonstrated over and over. it's a little tank.
>
>> > plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd
>> > party
>> > developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>> >
>> > sweet!
>> >
>> > -
>>
>> How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been
>> out
>> maybe two months.
>
> just look at apple products in general, they are extremely well
> engineered and last for decades, the iphone will be no different.

"Gene Jones" <jasin@janus.com> wrote in message
news:jasin-414F2A.19144605112007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>
>> People who go for the "gingerbread" fancy features in the iPhone won't
>> keep
>> them that long. Another, better version will be out way before then
>> that
>> they will just "have to have".
>
> sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> smartphone, you'll see plenty of hagndmedowns, so each iphone will stay
> active for 5-8 years... the build quality is just that good.

Until it's dropped.
>
> plus, keep in mind it's 80% or more software based, so apple & 3rd party
> developers will continue to update and support them for about a decade.
>
> sweet!
>
> -

How can you say it's going to be around for 5-8 years ? Thing has been out
maybe two months. Oh, Oxford wrote this, that's why.


Oxturd, Why not quote the message and not cut and past to your likening ?
Your so full of shit!

Another AKA to add to my twit filter.

<snip> <snip>

New Flash!!!!!! This just in from CNN....

WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT I CRACK BEING THE INVENTION OF THE YEAR?!?!?!?!

Who cares about i crack being here for 5 to 8 years.. be glad if you're
still alive tomorrow!

So I took it back.

What kind of junky cellphone can't even complete a phone call?

I WILL miss Tetris, though....

Dean





"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-90154C.21021602112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
> "Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>>
>> Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone itself,
>> but
>> Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have long had *many*
>> iPod-like media players to choose from.
>
> ipod "like" but not an ipod, so that's a huge difference for the user.

i wonder if there something about this group " alt.cellular.verizon" has
to do with this damn brick phone.. naw.. I just realized something.. people
are an idiot since they can't tell the difference between verizon and i
crap.
"Dean" <dean173@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4S5Yi.751$o41.230@newsfe09.lga...
> So I took it back.
>
> What kind of junky cellphone can't even complete a phone call?
>
> I WILL miss Tetris, though....
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
>
> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-90154C.21021602112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
>> "Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>>>
>>> Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone
>>> itself, but
>>> Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have long had *many*
>>> iPod-like media players to choose from.
>>
>> ipod "like" but not an ipod, so that's a huge difference for the user.
>
>

Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
01F068.17273001112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net:

>
> Do you have one yet?
>
>

No.
Have an iPod and that's enough apple feces in one house.

DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:

> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> > smartphone
>
> How...how can you make that kind of assessment with a product that has
> only been out less than three months to products that have been out for
> year?

simple, look at apple's past products, they all last 3x years longer
than competitors, the iphone will be no different.

> Since the iPhone has been out less than three months, by your logic a
> regular smartphone only lasts one month.

no, but since regular smartphones are locked into the hardware design
they ship with the iphone excels since it's mainly a software vessel
that can be updated continuously. no other phone can do this.

Gene Jones wrote:
> sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a regular
> smartphone

How...how can you make that kind of assessment with a product that has
only been out less than three months to products that have been out for
year?

Since the iPhone has been out less than three months, by your logic a
regular smartphone only lasts one month.

Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in
news:colalovesmacs-90154C.21021602112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> "Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > nobody has done an ipod in a cell phone before.
>>
>> Now that's just silly. Sure, manybe not packaged witih the phone
>> itself, but Palm and Windows and probably even Symbian phones have
>> long had *many* iPod-like media players to choose from.
>
> ipod "like" but not an ipod, so that's a huge difference for the user.

No it's not. At least noit for users with more than a third grade
education.

Gene Jones <jasin@janus.com> wrote in
news:jasin-4DDF99.21230006112007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> > sure, but since the iphone has around 3 times the longevity of a
>> > regular smartphone
>>
>> How...how can you make that kind of assessment with a product that
>> has only been out less than three months to products that have been
>> out for year?
>
> simple, look at apple's past products, they all last 3x years longer
> than competitors, the iphone will be no different.
>
>> Since the iPhone has been out less than three months, by your logic a
>> regular smartphone only lasts one month.
>
> no, but since regular smartphones are locked into the hardware design
> they ship with the iphone excels since it's mainly a software vessel
> that can be updated continuously. no other phone can do this.
>

Actually, most phones can do it.

You're not real knowledgeable about the subject, are you?