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Old 10-20-2007, 07:25 PM
Mark Thompson
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The great news keeps on getting better!

Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
Apple's iPhone the No. 4 U.S. handset during third quarter

Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
19th October 2007 12:23 GMT

Love it or loathe it, there's no denying Apple's iPhone is popular.
According to market watcher Strategy Analytics, the Apple handset has
become AT&T's top-selling phone, accounting for 13 per cent of the
carrier's device sales.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/10...-t_top_seller/

Apple Inc.'s iPhone ranked No. 4 amongst all U.S. handset for the third
calendar quarter of 2007 in terms of sales and is on track to
potentially take over the No. 1 spot sometime in the next two quarters,
according to a new report.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._the_no_4_u_s_
handset_during_third_quarter.html

You can join the party here!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

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Old 10-20-2007, 07:58 PM
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Hey jackass, stop posting to newsgroups that don't give a rat's ass about
the ickphone. Man, I'm sick of this retarded bullshit!



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Old 10-20-2007, 08:45 PM
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"GolfGod" <golfgod@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey jackass, stop posting to newsgroups that don't give a rat's ass about
> the ickphone. Man, I'm sick of this retarded bullshit!


not sure what you mean? the iPhone is the future of all cell phones, so
you might as well start learning about how it works.

everyone knows it's the most powerful phone ever released, but yes, what
is unknown is how many cell handsets will disappear because of it.

have you used one? it didn't sound like, if you had, you'd get excited
too. So GolfGod learn about what is happening to your industry, the
iPhone is radically changing everything what was prior to June 29th 2007.

apple now controls the cell industry, like it or not.

learn it or stay in the dark. at least watch the well done guided tour,
but until then, please don't comment since you'll be laughed at!

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gettings...uidedtour.html

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Old 10-20-2007, 10:46 PM
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While I'm very happy for Steve Jobs, I, personally don't really care. I
think the iphone does a number of really cool things, none of which interest
me. I suppose if one day he makes a phone that makes and receives really
clear calls from anywhere to anywhere, and packages it in a nice handy flip
phone style, and sells it to me cheap, and give me a pretty decent contract,
like what I have right now, I too may buy one. I'm just not convinced that
the vast majority of cell phone users, want what the iphone offers, but hey,
I could be wrong. What I'd really like to know is, why are you such a lap
dog for Apple


"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The great news keeps on getting better!
>
> Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
> Apple's iPhone the No. 4 U.S. handset during third quarter
>
> Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
> 19th October 2007 12:23 GMT
>
> Love it or loathe it, there's no denying Apple's iPhone is popular.
> According to market watcher Strategy Analytics, the Apple handset has
> become AT&T's top-selling phone, accounting for 13 per cent of the
> carrier's device sales.
>
> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/10...-t_top_seller/
>
> Apple Inc.'s iPhone ranked No. 4 amongst all U.S. handset for the third
> calendar quarter of 2007 in terms of sales and is on track to
> potentially take over the No. 1 spot sometime in the next two quarters,
> according to a new report.
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._the_no_4_u_s_
> handset_during_third_quarter.html
>
> You can join the party here!
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/




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Old 10-20-2007, 11:40 PM
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"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> The great news keeps on getting better!
>
> Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
> Apple's iPhone the No. 4 U.S. handset during third quarter
>
> Apple iPhone is AT&T's top-selling handset
> 19th October 2007 12:23 GMT
>
> Love it or loathe it, there's no denying Apple's iPhone is popular.
> According to market watcher Strategy Analytics, the Apple handset has
> become AT&T's top-selling phone, accounting for 13 per cent of the
> carrier's device sales.


And the reason you cross-post this to a Verizon Wireless NG where no one
gives a rat's ass is ???



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Old 10-21-2007, 12:12 AM
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Why do you use multiple names?
Stick to one - you schizophrenic??

The only ones being "laughed at" are ones like you
making extremely stupid statements.

Like ALL of the below...

Quit posting to alt.cell.verizon - keep your fanboy shit
where it belongs - and someone - anyone cares.


"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:markt-CD10E4.14455820102007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...

the iPhone is the future of all cell phones, .
>
> everyone knows it's the most powerful phone ever released, but yes, what
> is unknown is how many cell handsets will disappear because of it.
>
> iPhone is radically changing everything what was prior to June 29th 2007.
>
> apple now controls the cell industry, like it or not.
>
> learn it or stay in the dark. at least watch the well done guided tour,
> but until then, please don't comment since you'll be laughed at!
>




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Old 10-21-2007, 01:03 AM
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"Ira Hayes" <pima@> wrote in message
news:_smdnVMtV4JFDIfanZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@comcast.com. ..

>
> And the reason you cross-post this to a Verizon Wireless NG where no one
> gives a rat's ass is ???


His boyfriend gives him a cookie each time he can mention Apple outside of
the approriate forum.

--

Scott



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Old 10-21-2007, 01:54 AM
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"Ira Hayes" <pima@> wrote:

> > Love it or loathe it, there's no denying Apple's iPhone is popular.
> > According to market watcher Strategy Analytics, the Apple handset has
> > become AT&T's top-selling phone, accounting for 13 per cent of the
> > carrier's device sales.

>
> And the reason you cross-post this to a Verizon Wireless NG where no one
> gives a rat's ass is ???


because you'll own one in the next few years, so it's best to learn
early.

you can get started here:

http://www.cnet.com/apple-iphone.html

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Old 10-21-2007, 02:30 AM
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Cnet rated the phone I currently use, which doesn't have the iphone bells
and whistles, the same. Cnet also speaks poorly for the iphone's ability to
make phone calls. The user reviews on my current phone are way higher than
the iphone reviews. Why, exactly is it that everyone should want one? and
I'm still curious as to why you choose to be their lap dog




"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Ira Hayes" <pima@> wrote:
>
>> > Love it or loathe it, there's no denying Apple's iPhone is popular.
>> > According to market watcher Strategy Analytics, the Apple handset has
>> > become AT&T's top-selling phone, accounting for 13 per cent of the
>> > carrier's device sales.

>>
>> And the reason you cross-post this to a Verizon Wireless NG where no one
>> gives a rat's ass is ???

>
> because you'll own one in the next few years, so it's best to learn
> early.
>
> you can get started here:
>
> http://www.cnet.com/apple-iphone.html
>
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:21 AM
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"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Why do you use multiple names?
> Stick to one - you schizophrenic??


there just pen names. Ben Franklin had around 18 of them. I have only 8,
so I have a ways to go to catch up with old Ben

> The only ones being "laughed at" are ones like you
> making extremely stupid statements.


At least mine are factual, and yes, I'm just ahead of the market. You'll
see in a couple years what I'm talking about then say "Oh, that's what
that smart guy on usenet was clamoring about".

> Like ALL of the below...
>
> Quit posting to alt.cell.verizon - keep your fanboy shit
> where it belongs - and someone - anyone cares.


I'll post where I want, when I want, and say anything I want. This is
usenet so anything goes.

Learn to live with it.

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Old 10-21-2007, 04:03 PM
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In news:EQySi.119$yJ2.44@newsfe12.lga,
RBM <rbm2(remove this)@optonline.net> typed:
> Cnet rated the phone I currently use, which doesn't have the iphone bells
> and whistles, the same. Cnet also speaks poorly for the iphone's ability
> to make phone calls. The user reviews on my current phone are way higher
> than the iphone reviews. Why, exactly is it that everyone should want
> one? and I'm still curious as to why you choose to be their lap dog
>
>
>



The only reason it is doing so well is it says Apple on it and Steve Jobs
has told all his followers it is the greatest thing ever - except perhaps
the bible. lol




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Old 10-21-2007, 04:13 PM
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In article <iMKSi.3840$E92.94@newsfe23.lga>, IMHO IIRC
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:

> The only reason it is doing so well is it says Apple on it and Steve Jobs
> has told all his followers it is the greatest thing ever - except perhaps
> the bible. lol


Keep your eyes and ears covered...it's a better world that way.

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Old 10-21-2007, 04:19 PM
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Goddam Oxford sock puppets....
(Deluded AND schizophrenic)

EVERYTHING you have posted is conjecture - at best.
Not a single fact is contained in them.

It will be YOU that will have their nose rubbed in it.

And, in less than a year, when EVERY company you blather
about is still here, strong as ever. And Apple is still in
fourth (or less) place worldwide.


"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:markt-37C54E.23215020102007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
>
> At least mine are factual, and yes, I'm just ahead of the market. You'll
> see in a couple years what I'm talking about then say "Oh, that's what
> that smart guy on usenet was clamoring about".
>




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Old 10-21-2007, 05:17 PM
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In news:211020070913472793%rag@nospam.techline.com,
Mr. Strat <rag@nospam.techline.com> typed:
> In article <iMKSi.3840$E92.94@newsfe23.lga>, IMHO IIRC
> <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:
>
>> The only reason it is doing so well is it says Apple on it and Steve Jobs
>> has told all his followers it is the greatest thing ever - except perhaps
>> the bible. lol

>
> Keep your eyes and ears covered...it's a better world that way.


And that is exactly what Apple iPhone purponents do except when Steve Jobs
is speaking.




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Old 10-21-2007, 05:54 PM
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Be sure to include comp.sys.mac.advocacy in all iPhone followups. Since
the Mac fanboy community wants to harass mobile phone newsgroups, we
should be sure that their newsgroups get all the responses.

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Ness_net wrote:
> Goddam Oxford sock puppets....
> (Deluded AND schizophrenic)
>
> EVERYTHING you have posted is conjecture - at best.
> Not a single fact is contained in them.
>
> It will be YOU that will have their nose rubbed in it.
>
> And, in less than a year, when EVERY company you blather
> about is still here, strong as ever. And Apple is still in
> fourth (or less) place worldwide.
>
>
> "Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:markt-37C54E.23215020102007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net...
>>
>> At least mine are factual, and yes, I'm just ahead of the market. You'll
>> see in a couple years what I'm talking about then say "Oh, that's what
>> that smart guy on usenet was clamoring about".
>>

>
>
>


-- Mark --

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

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Old 10-21-2007, 08:41 PM
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I finally get it.. You get off on posting about I phone to this group
because it makes you feel better knowing that someone will actually engage
in conversation with you and so..LOSER
"Mark Thompson" <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do you use multiple names?
>> Stick to one - you schizophrenic??

>
> there just pen names. Ben Franklin had around 18 of them. I have only 8,
> so I have a ways to go to catch up with old Ben
>
>> The only ones being "laughed at" are ones like you
>> making extremely stupid statements.

>
> At least mine are factual, and yes, I'm just ahead of the market. You'll
> see in a couple years what I'm talking about then say "Oh, that's what
> that smart guy on usenet was clamoring about".
>
>> Like ALL of the below...
>>
>> Quit posting to alt.cell.verizon - keep your fanboy shit
>> where it belongs - and someone - anyone cares.

>
> I'll post where I want, when I want, and say anything I want. This is
> usenet so anything goes.
>
> Learn to live with it.
>
> -




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Old 10-21-2007, 10:51 PM
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In article <dRLSi.342746$dA7.213703@newsfe16.lga>, IMHO IIRC
<NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:

> > Keep your eyes and ears covered...it's a better world that way.

>
> And that is exactly what Apple iPhone purponents do except when Steve Jobs
> is speaking.


Yeah...like Bill Gates has a vision.

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Old 10-22-2007, 12:11 AM
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At 21 Oct 2007 15:51:37 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:

> Yeah...like Bill Gates has a vision.



Actually he does, and these days it's philanthropy, not anything to do
with Microsoft. Arguably, with his wealth and drive he'll make a
difference in the world. I hope he's more successful in his future
endeavors than he ever was with Microsoft.



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Old 10-22-2007, 01:55 AM
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In article <kYRSi.1617$Rg.231@fe103.usenetserver.com>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> Actually he does, and these days it's philanthropy, not anything to do
> with Microsoft. Arguably, with his wealth and drive he'll make a
> difference in the world. I hope he's more successful in his future
> endeavors than he ever was with Microsoft.


If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.

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Old 10-22-2007, 05:36 AM
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At 21 Oct 2007 18:55:33 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:

> If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
> stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
> the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
> showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.



Improve whose lives, though?
One man is currently trying to improve conditions in the third world, the
other is making it easier to identify what song is currently playing at
Starbucks.



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Old 10-22-2007, 03:32 PM
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In article <plXSi.11590$ik.8461@fe085.usenetserver.com>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> At 21 Oct 2007 18:55:33 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:
>
> > If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
> > stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
> > the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
> > showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.

>
>
> Improve whose lives, though?
> One man is currently trying to improve conditions in the third world, the
> other is making it easier to identify what song is currently playing at
> Starbucks.


It's about how we interact with technology. Gates and the Windows
empire has no clue as evidenced by their pitiful products.
Bill is free to spend his money as he pleases, but that doesn't mean
he's a better person than someone who continues to devote their life to
furthering technology. Jeez, you liberals are a self-righteous lot.

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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 21 Oct 2007 18:55:33 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:
>
>> If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
>> stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
>> the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
>> showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.

>
>
> Improve whose lives, though?
> One man is currently trying to improve conditions in the third world, the
> other is making it easier to identify what song is currently playing at
> Starbucks.
>


Gates's agenda is to improve the third world by selling product to the
third world.

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Old 10-22-2007, 03:59 PM
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Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <plXSi.11590$ik.8461@fe085.usenetserver.com>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> At 21 Oct 2007 18:55:33 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:
>>
>>> If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
>>> stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
>>> the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
>>> showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.

>>
>> Improve whose lives, though?
>> One man is currently trying to improve conditions in the third world, the
>> other is making it easier to identify what song is currently playing at
>> Starbucks.

>
> It's about how we interact with technology. Gates and the Windows
> empire has no clue as evidenced by their pitiful products.


No clue is right. In the late 80's I attended a seminar on *technology*
at a university where Gates was one of the speakers. As evidence with
the crowds(and other speakers) reaction during Gates talk it was pretty
obvious that Gates didn't 'get it' on what technology was/is.

> Bill is free to spend his money as he pleases, but that doesn't mean
> he's a better person than someone who continues to devote their life to
> furthering technology. Jeez, you liberals are a self-righteous lot.


Liberals/Neocon's are *all* a self-righteous lot, unfortunately.


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Old 10-22-2007, 09:04 PM
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Mr. Strat wrote:
> It's about how we interact with technology. Gates and the Windows
> empire has no clue as evidenced by their pitiful products.


Oh, really? The market disagrees with you.

I use Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X on a daily and continual basis. Each
platform has its own strengths and weaknesses. There is no compelling
case for the unconditional superiority of any of the three over the other
two.

> Bill is free to spend his money as he pleases, but that doesn't mean
> he's a better person than someone who continues to devote their life to
> furthering technology. Jeez, you liberals are a self-righteous lot.


I don't see how liberalism or conservativism has anything to do with this
matter. I have no idea of Gates' political views; but observe that
conservatives are (and always have been) among the most generous donors to
charitable causes. I see nothing to criticize, and much to praise, about
Gates using his wealth to improve third world conditions.

I have more of a quarrel with his father, who wants to establish a state
income tax in Washington State for "fairness".

I don't see how Jobs "furthers technology" in any way. His company makes
occasionally interesting products based upon technology that others have
invented, but Apple's strength is in packaging, not invention nor
innovation.

-- Mark --

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:06 PM
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In article
<alpine.WNT.0.9999.0710221347460.1280@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washignton.EDU>,
Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> Oh, really? The market disagrees with you.


Just because Britney Spears sells a lot of records doesn't mean she's a
good singer.

> I use Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X on a daily and continual basis. Each
> platform has its own strengths and weaknesses. There is no compelling
> case for the unconditional superiority of any of the three over the other
> two.


Linux - designed by and for geeks, although Ubuntu is tolerable.
Windows, especially the pathetic Vista, I have no use for.

> I have more of a quarrel with his father, who wants to establish a state
> income tax in Washington State for "fairness".


I'd agree with that. I went to your fine school back in 1970/71.

> I don't see how Jobs "furthers technology" in any way. His company makes
> occasionally interesting products based upon technology that others have
> invented, but Apple's strength is in packaging, not invention nor
> innovation.


The Macintosh/iPod/iPhone are not innovative products?

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 21 Oct 2007 18:55:33 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:
>
>> If you caught the Q&A a couple months back where Bill & Steve shared a
>> stage, Gates came across as a visionless geek with no understanding of
>> the relationship of technology and people. Steve, on the other hand,
>> showed a vision of how technology could improve people's lives.

>
>
> Improve whose lives, though?
> One man is currently trying to improve conditions in the third world, the
> other is making it easier to identify what song is currently playing at
> Starbucks.


Gates doesn't have the rock star qualities of Steve Jobs. They each have
their own set of groups that they help. Think of how Apple popularized
the use of computers in education. Gates has the financial resources to
help improve conditions in the third world. He is (or was) several
orders of magnitude wealthier than Jobs.

Combining a cell phone and MP3 player with a web browser may not be the
same as feeding the world's hungry, but maybe it'll help Job's transfer
enough wealth to himself and Apple stock holders that they can emulate
what Gate's is doing.

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Old 10-23-2007, 12:35 AM
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Mr. Strat wrote:
>> I don't see how Jobs "furthers technology" in any way. His company makes
>> occasionally interesting products based upon technology that others have
>> invented, but Apple's strength is in packaging, not invention nor
>> innovation.

> The Macintosh/iPod/iPhone are not innovative products?


There is nothing in any of these that did not first appear in products
from other companies. Apple did not invent GUI or the mouse; nor did
Apple invent MP3; nor did Apple invent cell phones; nor did Apple invent
portable computing. Apple didn't invent the PDA either; the Newton was a
repackaged Sharp PDA.

I repeat: Apple's strength is in packaging, not invention nor innovation.
Apple does a good, at times excellent, job in taking existing technology
and repackaging it in very attractive forms. They then sell the resulting
derivative product for much higher prices than the original.

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<alpine.WNT.0.9999.0710221727250.5880@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washignton.EDU>,
Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> There is nothing in any of these that did not first appear in products
> from other companies. Apple did not invent GUI or the mouse; nor did
> Apple invent MP3; nor did Apple invent cell phones; nor did Apple invent
> portable computing. Apple didn't invent the PDA either; the Newton was a
> repackaged Sharp PDA.


No, they didn't invent these things. But they looked at how bad
existing products for them were and created superior products in each
category.
What operating system (that's still around) is superior to OS X for
usability and security?
What MP3 player is as elegant and simple in design as the iPod?
What cell phone has the intuitive interface and design of the iPhone?

> I repeat: Apple's strength is in packaging, not invention nor innovation.
> Apple does a good, at times excellent, job in taking existing technology
> and repackaging it in very attractive forms. They then sell the resulting
> derivative product for much higher prices than the original.


I guess working in the U District has damaged your critical thinking
skills.

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Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net> wrote in news:markt-
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> [Off topic iPhone horse shit removed to save space]


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At 22 Oct 2007 08:32:43 -0700 Mr. Strat wrote:

> It's about how we interact with technology.


"How we interact with technology?" And _I'm_ the liberal hippy?

> Gates and the Windows
> empire has no clue as evidenced by their pitiful products.


I'd point to market share but would have to endure another "just because
Brittany Spears sells a lot of records..." quip. Cute line, but Sinatra,
Elvis and the Beatles all sold a ton of albums too, because they were good.



> Bill is free to spend his money as he pleases, but that doesn't mean
> he's a better person than someone who continues to devote their life to
> furthering technology.


Replacing our analog Sony Walkman with iPods doesn't exactly make Steve
Jobs the next Albert Schweitzer, does it?

When Jobs is older and feels he's done everything he has wanted to in
business, perhaps he'll pull a Gates or Ted Turner and devote his time,
energy and/or wealth to a bigger cause than hawking consumer entertainment.



> Jeez, you liberals are a self-righteous lot.


Where did that come from? What does this have to do with "liberal?" If
anything, this is pure "thousand points of light" conservatism- the well-
off donating time and money freely to those without, rather than
government doing it with taxpayer money.



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