I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is using. Please join me and copy
just one of his messages, showing full headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
Dear Altopia:
Someone posting from your news server is absolutely flooding USENET with spam, posting scores of
paranoid rantings to to hundreds of groups on a daily basis.
Here is just one message, with full headers:
Path: be18.lga!hwmnpeer02.lga!hw-filter.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmnpeer01.phx!news.high winds-
media.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!
news.alt.net
From: imvfvefi@gmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb,dfw.music,cz.comp.lang.python,alt.sex.video,c cu.bbs.food
Subject: M'I`5,Persecutio n , abu se in set-up situa tions a nd in pub lic
Followup-To: alt.support.diet.low-
carb,dfw.music,cz.comp.lang.python,alt.sex.video,c cu.bbs.food,uk.misc
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:49:47 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
Lines: 106
Message-ID: <tc0800011449465706@4ax.com>
Xref: Hurricane-Charley alt.support.diet.low-carb:181686 dfw.music:3208 cz.comp.lang.python:5243
alt.sex.video:5252 ccu.bbs.food:6873
X-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:49:47 MST (be18.lga)
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-= abuse in set-up. situations and in public -=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Strangers in the street have. recognized me on sight many times, and shown
awareness of the current thread of abuse. To. give you one example, in 1992
I was seriously ill, and a manager. at work somewhat humorously said that
"it wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later,. I attended
for the first time. a clinic in London as an outpatient, and on my way out
was accosted. by someone who asked if "they had paid my fare", with emphasis
on the word "fare". He repeated the. word several times in this different
context; that they should have. paid my "fare", each time emphasizing the
word (usual paranoid ranting snipped)
3713
Please take action on this individual, it is making USENET unbearable.
imascot wrote:
> I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is using. Please join me and copy
> just one of his messages, showing full headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>
>
Here is the nuts website:
And if you'd like to go one step further, the IP for his website
(209.197.112.233) points to being hosted at Pair Networks in the United
States (Pittsburgh to be specific). I'm sure they would love to hear from
all of us...abuse@pair.com :-)
imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> writes:
>I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
On 2008-01-04, Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote:
> imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> writes:
>>I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>>using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>>headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>
> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
"Chris Caputo" <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in message
news:1hi42f.o8b.17.1@news.alt.net...
>
> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>
> Chris Caputo
> President, Altopia Corporation
Thank you very much. And thank you for a public reply. I don't think I've
ever seen an ISP do this.
tscottme wrote:
> "Chris Caputo" <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote in message
> news:1hi42f.o8b.17.1@news.alt.net...
>> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>>
>> Chris Caputo
>> President, Altopia Corporation
>
> Thank you very much. And thank you for a public reply. I don't think I've
> ever seen an ISP do this.
>
Likely because it seems like they are a decent small business operation
and not a faceless megacorp that only tells people how good they are.
On Jan 4, 8:06*am, Chris Caputo <ccap...@alt.net> wrote:
> imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> writes:
> >I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
> >using. *Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
> >headers, to ab...@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>
> Sorry about this. *I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>
> Chris Caputo
> President, Altopia Corporation
What if MI-5 really is messing around in the US doing things FBI/CIA/
NSA are banned from ??
On Jan 5, 12:12*pm, Steve Sobol <sjso...@JustThe.net> wrote:
> On 2008-01-05, jgrov...@hotmail.com <jgrov...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What if MI-5 really is messing around in the US doing things FBI/CIA/
> > NSA are banned from ??
>
> That doesn't change the fact that the guy was flooding the newsgroups.
>
> Of course, consiering the way you've posted your stupid offtopic trolls
> in the past, I would expect you to take the obnoxious spammer troll's side..
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA * * PGP:0xE3AE35ED *www.SteveSobol.com
> Geek-for-hire. Details:http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol
The Brits did torch the White House in 1812 after all. Foreign
"friendlies" could be running around here up to all kinds of mayhem. I
don't defend him but given his history he'll be back...JG
jgrove24@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 4, 8:06 am, Chris Caputo <ccap...@alt.net> wrote:
>> imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> writes:
>>> I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>>> using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>>> headers, to ab...@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>>
>> Chris Caputo
>> President, Altopia Corporation
>
> What if MI-5 really is messing around in the US doing things FBI/CIA/
> NSA are banned from ??
On Jan 5, 12:16*pm, Jim Higgins <gordian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> jgrov...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 8:06 am, Chris Caputo <ccap...@alt.net> wrote:
> >> imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> writes:
> >>> I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
> >>> using. *Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
> >>> headers, to ab...@altopia.com What I wrote was:
> >> Sorry about this. *I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>
> >> Chris Caputo
> >> President, Altopia Corporation
>
> > What if MI-5 really is messing around in the US doing things FBI/CIA/
> > NSA are banned from ??
>
> I don't care as long as they use Verizon.
>
> --
> Civis Romanus Sum
I'm guessing more like scrambled satellite based handsets. NSA's
wiretapped network is fully bypassed...
jgrove24@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 4, 8:06 am, Chris Caputo <ccap...@alt.net> wrote:
>
>>imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> writes:
>>
>>>I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>>>using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>>>headers, to ab...@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>>
>>Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>>
>>Chris Caputo
>>President, Altopia Corporation
>
>
> What if MI-5 really is messing around in the US doing things FBI/CIA/
> NSA are banned from ??
Why should they? They have little or nothing to gain. It would be a
crime if you did it and it's no different for their agents.
In article <1hi42f.o8b.17.1@news.alt.net>, Chris Caputo wrote:
> imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> writes:
>>I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>>using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>>headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>
> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>
> Chris Caputo
> President, Altopia Corporation
Thank you! I wanted to express my personal gratitude for this.
Now perhaps you can send them a bill for all of that unsolicited
trouble they caused you and every other ISP. Lets not forget Criminal
charges.
--
From the Desk of the Sysop of:
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Web Site: http://pinkrose.dhis.org, Dialup 860-618-3091 300-33600 bps
The New Cnews maintainer
B'ichela
B'ichela <mdalene@pinkrose.dhis.org> wrote in
news:Ju6uIz.4oE@pinkrose.net.dhis.org:
> Now perhaps you can send them a bill for all of that unsolicited
> trouble they caused you and every other ISP. Lets not forget Criminal
> charges.
And you would lose big, if your case was even allowed to go to trial.
The ISP shut down the person causing the trouble as soon as they were made
aware of the situation. That is all they have to do. And they may not
even be required to do that...CANSPAM only applies to email, not Usenet,
and this was obviously not a DMCA take down case either.
And for that same reason, you probably can't take any action against the
MI5 nut himself, because it wasn't email.
Finally, individuals cannot go to court directly against a spammer under
CANSPAM...only ISPs or other service providers. You might be able to take
him to small claims court, but you'll spend more than you can collect in
doing it, and if he doesn't live in your state, you can forget collecting.
B'ichela wrote:
> In article <1hi42f.o8b.17.1@news.alt.net>, Chris Caputo wrote:
>
>>imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> writes:
>>
>>>I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>>>using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>>>headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>>
>>Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
>>
>>Chris Caputo
>>President, Altopia Corporation
>
> Thank you! I wanted to express my personal gratitude for this.
>
> Now perhaps you can send them a bill for all of that unsolicited
> trouble they caused you and every other ISP. Lets not forget Criminal
> charges.
>
What crime are you alleging? There's no doubt in my mind that usenet
would be a better place if off-topic posts meritted criminal sanctions
but it just doesn't work that way!!
In article <478021EE.3010606@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> B'ichela wrote:
>> Thank you! I wanted to express my personal gratitude for this.
>>
>> Now perhaps you can send them a bill for all of that unsolicited
>> trouble they caused you and every other ISP. Lets not forget Criminal
>> charges.
>>
>
> What crime are you alleging? There's no doubt in my mind that usenet
> would be a better place if off-topic posts meritted criminal sanctions
> but it just doesn't work that way!!
>
If you consider how his insidious and deliberatly repeating
the topic in Hundreds if not THOUSANDS of newsgroups that have no
relation with the topic itself... Creating a mess for all of us who
run and/or maintain news server operations. Thats right, I run a
newsserver and his tripe clogged up my spools.
No matter what I did, within reason, he changed his headers and repeated the
same garbage to all of those groups. That my friend is a Malicious
attack on the usenet NNTP providers on the world.
Its time that no one allows this to continue. Its time to
finally act and deal with this type of behaviour. Once and for all!
--
From the Desk of the Sysop of:
Planet Maca's Opus, a Free open BBS system. telnet://pinkrose.dhis.org
Web Site: http://pinkrose.dhis.org, Dialup 860-618-3091 300-33600 bps
The New Cnews maintainer
B'ichela
B'ichela wrote:
> In article <478021EE.3010606@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>>B'ichela wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you! I wanted to express my personal gratitude for this.
>>>
>>>Now perhaps you can send them a bill for all of that unsolicited
>>>trouble they caused you and every other ISP. Lets not forget Criminal
>>>charges.
>>>
>>
>>What crime are you alleging? There's no doubt in my mind that usenet
>>would be a better place if off-topic posts meritted criminal sanctions
>>but it just doesn't work that way!!
>>
>
> If you consider how his insidious and deliberatly repeating
> the topic in Hundreds if not THOUSANDS of newsgroups that have no
> relation with the topic itself... Creating a mess for all of us who
> run and/or maintain news server operations. Thats right, I run a
> newsserver and his tripe clogged up my spools.
> No matter what I did, within reason, he changed his headers and repeated the
> same garbage to all of those groups. That my friend is a Malicious
> attack on the usenet NNTP providers on the world.
>
> Its time that no one allows this to continue. Its time to
> finally act and deal with this type of behaviour. Once and for all!
>
Right! Are you going to hire James Bond to deal with him?
on 1/1/2008 4:35 PM imascot said the following:
> I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is using. Please join me and copy
> just one of his messages, showing full headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
>
> Dear Altopia:
> Someone posting from your news server is absolutely flooding USENET with spam, posting scores of
> paranoid rantings to to hundreds of groups on a daily basis.
>
> Here is just one message, with full headers:
>
> Path: be18.lga!hwmnpeer02.lga!hw-filter.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmnpeer01.phx!news.high winds-
> media.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!
> news.alt.net
> From: imvfvefi@gmail.com
> Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb,dfw.music,cz.comp.lang.python,alt.sex.video,c cu.bbs.food
> Subject: M'I`5,Persecutio n , abu se in set-up situa tions a nd in pub lic
> Followup-To: alt.support.diet.low-
> carb,dfw.music,cz.comp.lang.python,alt.sex.video,c cu.bbs.food,uk.misc
> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:49:47 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: Altopia Corp. - Usenet Access - www.altopia.com
> Lines: 106
> Message-ID: <tc0800011449465706@4ax.com>
> Xref: Hurricane-Charley alt.support.diet.low-carb:181686 dfw.music:3208 cz.comp.lang.python:5243
> alt.sex.video:5252 ccu.bbs.food:6873
> X-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:49:47 MST (be18.lga)
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> -= abuse in set-up. situations and in public -=
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> Strangers in the street have. recognized me on sight many times, and shown
> awareness of the current thread of abuse. To. give you one example, in 1992
> I was seriously ill, and a manager. at work somewhat humorously said that
> "it wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later,. I attended
> for the first time. a clinic in London as an outpatient, and on my way out
> was accosted. by someone who asked if "they had paid my fare", with emphasis
> on the word "fare". He repeated the. word several times in this different
> context; that they should have. paid my "fare", each time emphasizing the
> word (usual paranoid ranting snipped)
>
> 3713
>
> Please take action on this individual, it is making USENET unbearable.
>
> Thank you,
>
I use Thunderbird as a newsreader. I have Supernews as a news server. I
have no idea what this MI5 problem is. I have not received a single
message from MI5 or any other paranoid writer. I assume he/she is
paranoid from the complaint responses I have read here (no threaded
responses, only original messages, like yours).
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
Chris Caputo explained on 1/4/2008 :
> imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> writes:
>> I have complained to Altopia.com, the news server this individual is
>> using. Please join me and copy just one of his messages, showing full
>> headers, to abuse@altopia.com What I wrote was:
> Sorry about this. I stopped the flooder as quickly as I could.
> I use Thunderbird as a newsreader. I have Supernews as a news server. I have
> no idea what this MI5 problem is. I have not received a single message from
> MI5 or any other paranoid writer. I assume he/she is paranoid from the
> complaint responses I have read here (no threaded responses, only original
> messages, like yours).
Yes, but what about the part where they were talking about YOU. <just
kidding>
Let's take down the MI5 nut poster 
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