Lost Facebook Status Update

I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very little
cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no big
deal.

Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were discarded.
I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
afternoon at this place, and show the place.

This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is on
cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a Razr --
or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be uploaded
then.

As annoying as it is that my seaside resort on the coastline of California
is a third-world country from a technology perspective, but this should not
mean that content I want to post should be discarded by the device just
because of the environment. The error is okay, but the message should be,
"do you want to save this content to be uploaded later when you get service
coverage again?" and allow me to decide that the content can be discarded
or stored similarly to an email.

Jeff Strickland wrote on [Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700]:
> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very little
> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no big
> deal.
>
> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were discarded.
> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>
> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is on
> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a Razr --
> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be uploaded
> then.

The app should take all responsibility, facebook seems to be very much an
"it's good enough under optimal circumstances, so it's done" kind of company

"Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff Strickland wrote on [Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700]:
>> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
>> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very
>> little
>> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no
>> big
>> deal.
>>
>> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were
>> discarded.
>> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
>> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>>
>> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is
>> on
>> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a
>> Razr --
>> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
>> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
>> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be
>> uploaded
>> then.
>
> The app should take all responsibility, facebook seems to be very much an
> "it's good enough under optimal circumstances, so it's done" kind of
> company
>

I was thinking it is a Facebook issue, but I've never tried to update my
status from a suburb of Los Angeles that is a third world country from the
perspective of cellular technology. Whomever is responsible ought to see
that the upload -- ANY upload -- was not successful and give the operator of
the device the option to store the upload for a subsequent attempt, or toss
the upload. It annoys me that either the app or the device would take it
upon itself to toss anything.

Jeff Strickland wrote on [Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:39:16 -0700]:
>
>
> I was thinking it is a Facebook issue, but I've never tried to update my
> status from a suburb of Los Angeles that is a third world country from the
> perspective of cellular technology. Whomever is responsible ought to see
> that the upload -- ANY upload -- was not successful and give the operator of
> the device the option to store the upload for a subsequent attempt, or toss
> the upload. It annoys me that either the app or the device would take it
> upon itself to toss anything.

That responsibility should lie on the shoulders of the app developer.
Facebook app takes charge of uploading the file, it needs to be smart
enough to detect disconnects

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very little
> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no big
> deal.
>
> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were discarded.
> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>
> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is on
> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a Razr --
> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be uploaded
> then.
>
> As annoying as it is that my seaside resort on the coastline of California
> is a third-world country from a technology perspective, but this should not
> mean that content I want to post should be discarded by the device just
> because of the environment. The error is okay, but the message should be,
> "do you want to save this content to be uploaded later when you get service
> coverage again?" and allow me to decide that the content can be discarded
> or stored similarly to an email.

Was that a landscape photo? did you click Done before doing an Upload :-) ?
(Recall landscape texts fail if you don't ... .) HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
>> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very
>> little
>> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no
>> big
>> deal.
>>
>> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were
>> discarded.
>> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
>> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>>
>> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is
>> on
>> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a
>> Razr --
>> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
>> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
>> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be
>> uploaded
>> then.
>>
>> As annoying as it is that my seaside resort on the coastline of
>> California
>> is a third-world country from a technology perspective, but this should
>> not
>> mean that content I want to post should be discarded by the device just
>> because of the environment. The error is okay, but the message should be,
>> "do you want to save this content to be uploaded later when you get
>> service
>> coverage again?" and allow me to decide that the content can be
>> discarded
>> or stored similarly to an email.
>
> Was that a landscape photo? did you click Done before doing an Upload :-)
> ?
> (Recall landscape texts fail if you don't ... .) HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp


Yes, I clicked done. I had THE SAME problem at my home today, the wifi
service had been turned off, but I expected that the 4G-LTE would have sent
the file from my house, but that did not happen. I don't know what FBook
demands for uploading files, but any upload that does not work should be
stored until the upload is successful. NO upload should ever be deleted
without the express approval of the operator of the device. The problem is
that the content of the upload is simply gone, never to be seen again.

On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 16:30:49 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:y76qarrgtbsm$.kjch2u6lp4yu.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>
>>> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update my
>>> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very
>>> little
>>> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no
>>> big
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were
>>> discarded.
>>> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a nice
>>> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>>>
>>> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this is
>>> on
>>> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a
>>> Razr --
>>> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook app,
>>> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
>>> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be
>>> uploaded
>>> then.
>>>
>>> As annoying as it is that my seaside resort on the coastline of
>>> California
>>> is a third-world country from a technology perspective, but this should
>>> not
>>> mean that content I want to post should be discarded by the device just
>>> because of the environment. The error is okay, but the message should be,
>>> "do you want to save this content to be uploaded later when you get
>>> service
>>> coverage again?" and allow me to decide that the content can be
>>> discarded
>>> or stored similarly to an email.
>>
>> Was that a landscape photo? did you click Done before doing an Upload :-)
>> ?
>> (Recall landscape texts fail if you don't ... .) HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
>
>
> Yes, I clicked done. I had THE SAME problem at my home today, the wifi
> service had been turned off, but I expected that the 4G-LTE would have sent
> the file from my house, but that did not happen. I don't know what FBook
> demands for uploading files, but any upload that does not work should be
> stored until the upload is successful. NO upload should ever be deleted
> without the express approval of the operator of the device. The problem is
> that the content of the upload is simply gone, never to be seen again.

You mean even if the upload is successful the content being uploaded is
gone from your device? Solution in that case is, surely, to upload only a
*copy* of what you want to upload to FB, not the original :-) .

HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 16:30:49 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
>> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:y76qarrgtbsm$.kjch2u6lp4yu.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:24:47 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was in a seaside resort yesterday having lunch, and wanted to update
>>>> my
>>>> F-book status with a photo of the view. Turns out there was no/very
>>>> little
>>>> cell service where I was, and the upload failed. Okay, upload later, no
>>>> big
>>>> deal.
>>>>
>>>> Except that since the upload failed, the photo and comments were
>>>> discarded.
>>>> I have no photo record in my phone, and no way to post that I had a
>>>> nice
>>>> afternoon at this place, and show the place.
>>>>
>>>> This seems to be a fatal flaw on the part of the code writers -- this
>>>> is
>>>> on
>>>> cellular.verizon because the service is verizon and the phone is a
>>>> Razr --
>>>> or with Facebook. Somebody, either the phone itself or the Facebook
>>>> app,
>>>> should know that the upload failed and the content should be preserved
>>>> somewhere so that when service is restored then the content can be
>>>> uploaded
>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> As annoying as it is that my seaside resort on the coastline of
>>>> California
>>>> is a third-world country from a technology perspective, but this should
>>>> not
>>>> mean that content I want to post should be discarded by the device just
>>>> because of the environment. The error is okay, but the message should
>>>> be,
>>>> "do you want to save this content to be uploaded later when you get
>>>> service
>>>> coverage again?" and allow me to decide that the content can be
>>>> discarded
>>>> or stored similarly to an email.
>>>
>>> Was that a landscape photo? did you click Done before doing an Upload
>>> :-)
>>> ?
>>> (Recall landscape texts fail if you don't ... .) HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
>>
>>
>> Yes, I clicked done. I had THE SAME problem at my home today, the wifi
>> service had been turned off, but I expected that the 4G-LTE would have
>> sent
>> the file from my house, but that did not happen. I don't know what FBook
>> demands for uploading files, but any upload that does not work should be
>> stored until the upload is successful. NO upload should ever be deleted
>> without the express approval of the operator of the device. The problem
>> is
>> that the content of the upload is simply gone, never to be seen again.
>
> You mean even if the upload is successful the content being uploaded is
> gone from your device? Solution in that case is, surely, to upload only a
> *copy* of what you want to upload to FB, not the original :-) .
>

I suppose I have to look to see if the content is gone from the device. If
the upload WORKS then the content is on the cloud -- in my F-book page --
and I don't care that it is on my device (phone or not). The problem is that
the upload FAILED _and_ the content is discarded -- I took a photo from
within the Facebook app, and included text to support the pic, all of it is
gone because the upload failed.

Go to your Facebook app and see how you update your Status. Add a photo to
the update. If the status update fails to upload, the content (photo and
text) is discarded. Yes, there is a way to attach a photo, but there is also
a way to call up the camera from within Facebook. When you call the camera
from within Facebook, the resulting photo does not get stored in your
Gallery -- which is the fatal flaw that I am speaking of.

On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 21:39:58 -0700, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> Go to your Facebook app and see how you update your Status. Add a photo to
> the update. If the status update fails to upload, the content (photo and
> text) is discarded. Yes, there is a way to attach a photo, but there is also
> a way to call up the camera from within Facebook. When you call the camera
> from within Facebook, the resulting photo does not get stored in your
> Gallery -- which is the fatal flaw that I am speaking of.

I have to take your word for it, 'cuz I don't do FB (have no FB app, have
no Status to update, have no Gallery (or Guylery, either), have no @FB.com
email addy sprung on me :-) ).

Best of luck sorting it all out, -- tlvp
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