Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen list?
I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate due to being on
this list.
i would like to know why it got on the list, it might help out
resolving this with the seller.
>"Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com>
>wrote in message
>news:1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen list?
>
> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate due to being on
> this list.
> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might help out
> resolving this with the seller.
>
I do not believe that VZW will release that kind of information.
Check the sellers feedback to determine if he/she has had any negatives
posted.
The fact that VZW won't activate the phone could be due to a couple of
things.
1. The phone is stolen and it has been reported as such.
2. The phone is not supported by VZW. It may be a phone that was
released for Sprint. Yes, Sprint uses CDMA, but VZW won't support it.
Number one above is the more likely scenario.
--
Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100 VZW AC II SINCE APRIL 1993
SonyEricsson Z525a CINGULAR NATION SINCE MARCH 2006
In article <1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
"Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen list?
>
> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate due to being on
> this list.
> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might help out
> resolving this with the seller.
I think the fact that it is on their "lost stolen" list tells you why
its there: because it was lost or stolen.
The way a phone gets on that list is by the owner or, in the case of
corporate accounts, the person responsible for the company's phones;
calls Verizon and reports the phone stolen or reports it lost. Verizon
then enters its ESN into their database. At that point, the phone can
never be activated again.
I have had to make such reports several times over the last
decade...both from employees losing their phones as well as having them
stolen.
Clearly, you were sold a phone that did not rightfully belong to the
person who sold it to you. He he/she either: found it and did not turn
it in, stole it, or acquired it from somebody else who did.
Michael Wise wrote:
> In article
> <1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
> "Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen
>> list?
>>
>> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate
>> due to being on this list.
>> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might
>> help out resolving this with the seller.
>
>
> I think the fact that it is on their "lost stolen" list
> tells you why its there: because it was lost or stolen.
>
> The way a phone gets on that list is by the owner or, in
> the case of corporate accounts, the person responsible
> for the company's phones; calls Verizon and reports the
> phone stolen or reports it lost. Verizon then enters its
> ESN into their database. At that point, the phone can
> never be activated again.
>
> I have had to make such reports several times over the
> last decade...both from employees losing their phones as
> well as having them stolen.
>
>
> Clearly, you were sold a phone that did not rightfully
> belong to the person who sold it to you. He he/she
> either: found it and did not turn it in, stole it, or
> acquired it from somebody else who did.
Most often the eBay sellers (if they do any kind of volume
at all) are just turning over the phones that they just bought
on eBay. Basically they buy them, see if it powers up and
sell it. I wouldn't buy a phone on eBay unless it was from
one of the larger store fronts with a great track record and
return policy.
Resolving with the seller should involve no more than "I
couldn't activate it because the ESN is on the lost or stolen
list. Send me another and if you want this one back include
a return shipper.". If they refuse then file negative feedback
and move on. If you want to do something out of principle
file a report with the police that you were sold stolen property.
Quick wrote:
> Michael Wise wrote:
>> In article
>> <1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
>> "Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen
>>> list?
>>>
>>> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate
>>> due to being on this list.
>>> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might
>>> help out resolving this with the seller.
>>
>>
>> I think the fact that it is on their "lost stolen" list
>> tells you why its there: because it was lost or stolen.
>>
>> The way a phone gets on that list is by the owner or, in
>> the case of corporate accounts, the person responsible
>> for the company's phones; calls Verizon and reports the
>> phone stolen or reports it lost. Verizon then enters its
>> ESN into their database. At that point, the phone can
>> never be activated again.
>>
>> I have had to make such reports several times over the
>> last decade...both from employees losing their phones as
>> well as having them stolen.
>>
>>
>> Clearly, you were sold a phone that did not rightfully
>> belong to the person who sold it to you. He he/she
>> either: found it and did not turn it in, stole it, or
>> acquired it from somebody else who did.
>
> Most often the eBay sellers (if they do any kind of volume
> at all) are just turning over the phones that they just
> bought on eBay. Basically they buy them, see if it powers
> up and sell it. I wouldn't buy a phone on eBay unless it was from
> one of the larger store fronts with a great track record
> and return policy.
>
> Resolving with the seller should involve no more than "I
> couldn't activate it because the ESN is on the lost or
> stolen list. Send me another and if you want this one
> back include a return shipper.". If they refuse then file negative
> feedback and move on. If you want to do something out of
> principle file a report with the police that you were sold stolen
> property.
and... the advice here is ALWAYS get the ESN and verify
with your carrier before buying.
I agree. Many of the good ebay sellers will provide an ESN without
blinking, but some don't. Obviously don't continue a transaction with
someone who won't tell you what you're bidding on.
Matt
Quick wrote:
> Quick wrote:
> > Michael Wise wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
> >> "Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen
> >>> list?
> >>>
> >>> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate
> >>> due to being on this list.
> >>> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might
> >>> help out resolving this with the seller.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think the fact that it is on their "lost stolen" list
> >> tells you why its there: because it was lost or stolen.
> >>
> >> The way a phone gets on that list is by the owner or, in
> >> the case of corporate accounts, the person responsible
> >> for the company's phones; calls Verizon and reports the
> >> phone stolen or reports it lost. Verizon then enters its
> >> ESN into their database. At that point, the phone can
> >> never be activated again.
> >>
> >> I have had to make such reports several times over the
> >> last decade...both from employees losing their phones as
> >> well as having them stolen.
> >>
> >>
> >> Clearly, you were sold a phone that did not rightfully
> >> belong to the person who sold it to you. He he/she
> >> either: found it and did not turn it in, stole it, or
> >> acquired it from somebody else who did.
> >
> > Most often the eBay sellers (if they do any kind of volume
> > at all) are just turning over the phones that they just
> > bought on eBay. Basically they buy them, see if it powers
> > up and sell it. I wouldn't buy a phone on eBay unless it was from
> > one of the larger store fronts with a great track record
> > and return policy.
> >
> > Resolving with the seller should involve no more than "I
> > couldn't activate it because the ESN is on the lost or
> > stolen list. Send me another and if you want this one
> > back include a return shipper.". If they refuse then file negative
> > feedback and move on. If you want to do something out of
> > principle file a report with the police that you were sold stolen
> > property.
>
> and... the advice here is ALWAYS get the ESN and verify
> with your carrier before buying.
>
> -Quick
"Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
news:no-1EBB3A.07555003112006@news.easynews.com...
> In article <1162536747.432041.296800@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups. com>,
> "Sammy Shuford" <starship@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Will Verizon release WHY a phone is on the lost stolen list?
>>
>> I bought a new V3M from ebay, and it would not activate due to being on
>> this list.
>> i would like to know why it got on the list, it might help out
>> resolving this with the seller.
>
>
> I think the fact that it is on their "lost stolen" list tells you why
> its there: because it was lost or stolen.
>
> The way a phone gets on that list is by the owner or, in the case of
> corporate accounts, the person responsible for the company's phones;
> calls Verizon and reports the phone stolen or reports it lost. Verizon
> then enters its ESN into their database. At that point, the phone can
> never be activated again.
>
> I have had to make such reports several times over the last
> decade...both from employees losing their phones as well as having them
> stolen.
>
>
> Clearly, you were sold a phone that did not rightfully belong to the
> person who sold it to you. He he/she either: found it and did not turn
> it in, stole it, or acquired it from somebody else who did.
>
>
>
> --Mike
Maybe not , I bought a phone that the tech on the phone said could not be
activated. I contacted the seller, he said he would replace the phone but to
please try again. I called and got a different tech, I explained buying the
phone on eBay. He checked the phone esn and said there would be no problem.
So I would call Verizon again or try to activate online. But if it fails
again start a dispute on ebay, if you paid via paypal or CC you should have
no problem.
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