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Old 02-17-2008, 11:56 PM
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Default The LTE transition....?????

So how is it going to work....will Verizon keep their entire CDMA
network up untill the new LTE network is all finsihed....thereby one
would get a nw LTE phone when they turn off the CDMA network and have a
full LTE network up and running???
or will it be more complex than that????

How many years from now will people be forced to get a new LTE phone????

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Old 02-18-2008, 02:00 AM
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"zeno333" <zeno333@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:170220081956193388%zeno333@mindspring.com...
> So how is it going to work....will Verizon keep their entire CDMA
> network up untill the new LTE network is all finsihed....thereby one
> would get a nw LTE phone when they turn off the CDMA network and have a
> full LTE network up and running???
> or will it be more complex than that????



Heck, they're just shutting off analog tomorrow, and it's been around for
nearly three decades!

They'll add LTE to the existing CDMA network, just as they've overlaid Rev.
A over the voice network. I suspect those CDMA handsets will still work for
another decade or more!

> How many years from now will people be forced to get a new LTE phone????


When apes rise up and take over the world, there's a fair chance they'll
still be using CDMA. America is pretty resistant to change just for
change's sake. It's taken over a half-century to get rid of analog TV, we
still use AM and FM broadcast radio despite digital and satellite radio,
and, of course, GSM and CDMA are still with us despite the existence of 3G.
There's just no good reason to abandon working systems with billions of
users just because a shiny new system comes along.

The advantage of LTE for Verizon and Vodaphone (who owns 45% of Verizon
Wireless) is interoperability. Verizon's future CDMA/LTE handsets will work
in the US on CDMA or LTE and worldwide on LTE, while Voda's GSM/LTE handsets
will work there on GSM or LTE and here on LTE.

This allows Verizon and Voda customers to roam on each other's system to
maximize revenue. It's sort of ironic that currently Voda's European
customers have to roam on a competitor's networks (AT&T or T-Mo) here in the
US when Voda owns nearly half of an extensive, though incompatible, US
network. They'd much rather charge their customers outrageous roaming fees
to roam in the US on their own Verizon network rather than AT&T, so they get
to pocket more of the money! THAT'S what the addition of LTE is really all
about.

I use to find a similar irony back when I was a Cingular TDMA customer in
Kansas City and roamed in California and Nevada on (the pre-merger) ATTWS'
TDMA network or on Verizon's analog service. Cingular operated an extensive
GSM network in the west that my Cingular TDMA phone couldn't see, forcing
Cingular to pay their competitors for my "free roaming" usage even though
Cingular (GSM) coverage was in the air all around me!

I'm sure Voda feels the same way as Cingular did when they pay the roaming
fees to AT&T or T-Mobile every month for their customers' USA roaming usage,
knowing that they own (45% of) towers all over America their customer's
handsets just couldn't "see."












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Old 02-18-2008, 05:00 AM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> There's just no good reason to abandon working systems with
> billions of users just because a shiny new system comes along.


I recall touring a VERY old (since 1921) AM radio station and one of
the people asked the engineer why they still used tube type
transmitters, the answer was, "Because it works, why would anyone spend
the money to replace it?"



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Old 02-18-2008, 04:44 PM
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XS11E wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> There's just no good reason to abandon working systems with
>> billions of users just because a shiny new system comes along.

>
> I recall touring a VERY old (since 1921) AM radio station and one of
> the people asked the engineer why they still used tube type
> transmitters, the answer was, "Because it works, why would anyone spend
> the money to replace it?"
>


The audio quality of tube equipment is quite phenomenal. At least in
the realm of hifi.

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§ <tdstr@foadspammer.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There's just no good reason to abandon working systems with
>>> billions of users just because a shiny new system comes along.

>>
>> I recall touring a VERY old (since 1921) AM radio station and one
>> of the people asked the engineer why they still used tube type
>> transmitters, the answer was, "Because it works, why would anyone
>> spend the money to replace it?"

>
> The audio quality of tube equipment is quite phenomenal. At least
> in the realm of hifi.


We're talking AM radio here, I'm not sure audio quality is something
they really care about.... ;-)




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