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Old 10-16-2011, 01:03 AM
Don Schmidt
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Default May go to the iphone but need advice

I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.

My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.

Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?

I use Windows XP Pro.

Comments appreciated.

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Vancouver, USA



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Old 10-16-2011, 02:22 AM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Default Re: May go to the iphone but need advice

On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>


Be careful! Very careful!

Research In Motion (RIM)/Blackberry has had a couple of debacles in the
last two or three years. The entire Blackberry system went off line for
several hours on at least two occasions. The Blackberry phones were
"bricks" for an hour or two on each occasion.

I'd love to have the Blackberry phone but I don't think I can trust
their system.

Querying Google should turn up the history. My VZW phones have NEVER
(to my knowledge) gone off line the way RIM/Blackberry did. Or any
other way that I know of.




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Old 10-16-2011, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: May go to the iphone but need advice

Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:22:08 -0400]:
> On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
>> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
>> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
>> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>>
>> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>>
>> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?


That may depend on your installation version and system. Do you mean
stand alone outlook 2007 or later?
Or perhaps an exchange installation?

check out http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ou...010266829.aspx

>> I use Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>

>
> Be careful! Very careful!
>
> Research In Motion (RIM)/Blackberry has had a couple of debacles in the
> last two or three years. The entire Blackberry system went off line for
> several hours on at least two occasions. The Blackberry phones were
> "bricks" for an hour or two on each occasion.


That may be why he is considering an iPhone, no?


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Old 10-16-2011, 03:00 AM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> My VZW phones have NEVER (to my knowledge) gone off line the way
> RIM/Blackberry did.


Richard continues to prove he has no clue.

NOTE to Don Schmidt, just hang on, someone who knows what he's talking
about will be along shortly.


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Old 10-16-2011, 03:17 AM
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: May go to the iphone but need advice

In article <a-edncpIzb9TogfTnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> Be careful! Very careful!
>
> Research In Motion (RIM)/Blackberry has had a couple of debacles in the
> last two or three years. The entire Blackberry system went off line for
> several hours on at least two occasions. The Blackberry phones were
> "bricks" for an hour or two on each occasion.
>
> I'd love to have the Blackberry phone but I don't think I can trust
> their system.


<snort> Do you really, truly, and honestly believe that ANY company who
chooses to get into the very same business RIM is in will completely
avoid the same debacles?

Apple's history of webmail is pitiful--and yet you scream like Chicken
Little that the sky is falling because RIM had some issues a few times,
and that you'd trust Apple before you'd trust RIM???

Just go back and do some research on what Apple has to offer, and how
they've handled things in the past.

Now fast forward to today, when Apple tells us that they're going to get
into the same technology that Blackberry Messenger has had for years.
You won't use your cellco's text messaging functionality; OH no, you'll
use Apple's application and their servers and a simple data connection,
then all your texting is free.

But you're using Apple's servers.

Go ahead, laugh at RIM all you want. But if you think that Apple can
and will do any better, you're in for a big treat.

And remember, RIM knows who their customer is--big business. Apple?
Apple's customer is the end user. As such, Apple doesn't provide actual
resources for their end users to call and discuss things like outages.
Have you ever tried to contact Apple regarding your iTunes account?
Your dot mac account?

There are two types of Blackberry-like systems in the world: those that
have crashed, like RIM's, and those that haven't crashed YET.

May I remind you of the debacle surrounding T-Mobile's stupid little
handheld messaging device (I forget what they called it)? The one where
the service CRASHED and took away years of data from everyone?

Go ahead, declare to the world that "because of last week, I can NEVER
EVER EVER trust RIM!" I guess you say the same about car companies
because you've heard that their cars are involved in accidents now and
again, eh?

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: May go to the iphone but need advice

In article <a-edncpIzb9TogfTnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> Research In Motion (RIM)/Blackberry has had a couple of debacles in the
> last two or three years. The entire Blackberry system went off line for
> several hours on at least two occasions. The Blackberry phones were
> "bricks" for an hour or two on each occasion.
>
> I'd love to have the Blackberry phone but I don't think I can trust
> their system.
>
> Querying Google should turn up the history. My VZW phones have NEVER
> (to my knowledge) gone off line the way RIM/Blackberry did. Or any
> other way that I know of.


And by the way, the Blackberry phones did NOT "go off line". They made
phone calls just fine, and never stopped. Your knowledge of what these
systems are and what actually happened appears to be non-existent.

You don't own any phone that even remotely does what BB does. You have
a phone that makes phone calls. Fine. BB phones make phone calls and
have never NOT made phone calls, just like yours.

What do you think happened last week, anyway? Do you think that BB
phones stopped making phone calls???

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:29 AM
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"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
news:U9qdnYSJzc_NsAfTnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.palin acquisition...
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts
> are Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar
> which are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>


This might help:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1386?viewlocale=en_US


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Old 10-16-2011, 05:40 AM
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At 15 Oct 2011 23:17:48 -0400 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <a-edncpIzb9TogfTnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Be careful! Very careful!
> >
> > Research In Motion (RIM)/Blackberry has had a couple of debacles in

the
> > last two or three years. The entire Blackberry system went off line

for
> > several hours on at least two occasions. The Blackberry phones were
> > "bricks" for an hour or two on each occasion.
> >
> > I'd love to have the Blackberry phone but I don't think I can trust
> > their system.

>
> <snort> Do you really, truly, and honestly believe that ANY company who
> chooses to get into the very same business RIM is in will completely
> avoid the same debacles?
>
> Apple's history of webmail is pitiful--and yet you scream like Chicken
> Little that the sky is falling because RIM had some issues a few times,
> and that you'd trust Apple before you'd trust RIM???


Two very different business models. iPhones use an email client that
supports standard POP, IMAP, and Exchange protocols, and don't funnel all
data traffic through an Apple-controlled server. RIM uses a proprietary
email client that talks to a RIM server only, which provides a nice fat
single point of failure for email delivery.

With Apple, (and Android, and Windows Phone, and Symbian, and everyone
else who is not RIM) you get your work email from the corporate server,
Gmail from Google, your Hotmail from Hotmail (MS), your Yahoo mail from
Yahoo, etc. etc., just like your home computer does. With RIM, RIM
fetches your corporate email, your Gmail, your Hotmail, your Yahoo mail,
etc. etc. and your Blackberry fetches it all from the RIM server. If the
RIM server goes down, your BB is essentially a paperweight (where
messaging is concerned.)

There are certainly security concerns that might validate the RIM
approach for some business or gov't users, but you'll notice there's never,

ever, been an "Android outage", "iPhone outage" or "Windows Phone outage"
on the news, because those devices connect to the same ol' internet your
home computer does, not some intermediary server in the Great White North.


> Just go back and do some research on what Apple has to offer, and how
> they've handled things in the past.



Immaterial. Any failures in an Apple service like Mobile Me or Mac.com
mail is a failure of that service only, and doesn't automatically bring
down any device with a half-eaten fruit silk-screened on the back anymore
than Bing or Hotmail going down crashes Windows PCs


> Now fast forward to today, when Apple tells us that they're going to

get
> into the same technology that Blackberry Messenger has had for years.
> You won't use your cellco's text messaging functionality; OH no, you'll
> use Apple's application and their servers and a simple data connection,
> then all your texting is free.
>
> But you're using Apple's servers.



Yep, for one service: iMessage. Your SMS will still go through your cell
carrier, your Gmail will still go through Google, etc. If iMessage goes
down, you'll lose iMessage and only iMessage for that period. Explain
how that parallels losing all of your email when RIM goes down?


> Go ahead, laugh at RIM all you want. But if you think that Apple can
> and will do any better, you're in for a big treat.



Apples and Oranges, (or in this case, Blackberries.)


> And remember, RIM knows who their customer is--big business. Apple?
> Apple's customer is the end user. As such, Apple doesn't provide

actual
> resources for their end users to call and discuss things like outages.
> Have you ever tried to contact Apple regarding your iTunes account?
> Your dot mac account?



Again, Apple is not holding the keys to your email kingdom. If iTunes
goes down, I can't buy a new Elvis Costello album, but my email still
works.


> There are two types of Blackberry-like systems in the world: those

that
> have crashed, like RIM's, and those that haven't crashed YET.



Excellent point. Perhaps that's why Apple, MS, Android and Symbian
didn't adopt "Blackberry-like systems."


> May I remind you of the debacle surrounding T-Mobile's stupid little
> handheld messaging device (I forget what they called it)? The one

where
> the service CRASHED and took away years of data from everyone?



It was the Sidekick platform, (known as the Danger Hiptop in Europe) and
our good friends at Microsoft crashed it while trying to upgrade it.
Microsoft bought the platform (and servers) from the company that created
it, Danger, but in corporate raider mode, fired most of the Danger
employees, some of whom might have told MS how to safely upgrade the
system while it was running.

On the quasi-bright side, although most customers were down for three
days or more, MS did finally recover almost everybody's data in the weeks
that followed.


> Go ahead, declare to the world that "because of last week, I can NEVER
> EVER EVER trust RIM!" I guess you say the same about car companies
> because you've heard that their cars are involved in accidents now and
> again, eh?



If there was a make of car whose models only ran when some server at the
manufacturer's HQ in Detroit was online, yes, I'd say buy someone elses,
someone's whose only requirements to run was gas in the tank and a key in
the ignition. When AMC went out of business, Gremlins and Pacers didn't
all grind to a halt. If RIM went under, it'd turn the Blackberries into
dumbphones when the last guy turns the lights off on his way out.


The Sidekick debacle and RIM's outages are perfect illustrations why
proprietary intermediate servers as a device's sole means of access are a
bad idea.



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Old 10-16-2011, 12:14 PM
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On 10/15/2011 11:00 PM, XS11E wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> My VZW phones have NEVER (to my knowledge) gone off line the way
>> RIM/Blackberry did.

>
> Richard continues to prove he has no clue.
>


I've been a Verizon Wireless subscriber for about twelve years now.
VZW may have had outages during those years but NONE have affected
me, personally!

I have also not heard of VZW having outages of scale and duration
similar to the Blackberry outages.

I suppose there have MAY have been such outages but I think I would have
noticed.

Would you care to get specific? With names of carriers, duration of
outage, areas affected, etc?
<snip>


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Old 10-16-2011, 03:27 PM
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"stevev" <stevev@addlebrain.com> wrote in message
news:j7dj2m$37a$1@adenine.netfront.net...
>
> "Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote in message
> news:U9qdnYSJzc_NsAfTnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.palin acquisition...
>> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts
>> are Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar
>> which are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>>
>> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>>
>> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>>
>> I use Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Don
>> Vancouver, USA
>>

>
> This might help:
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1386?viewlocale=en_US
>
> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to
> news@netfront.net ---




Let me respond to all you using the last response to my call for help.

Many thanks to all of you, especially to the those who added links to some
great info.

My disappointment in Blackberry is the lack of useful apps. The app I miss
most is a Credit Union Co-Op ATM locator. iphone has it!!

Thanks again gang.


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Vancouver, USA



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Old 10-16-2011, 03:36 PM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:14:39 -0400]:
> On 10/15/2011 11:00 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My VZW phones have NEVER (to my knowledge) gone off line the way
>>> RIM/Blackberry did.

>>
>> Richard continues to prove he has no clue.
>>

>
> I've been a Verizon Wireless subscriber for about twelve years now.
> VZW may have had outages during those years but NONE have affected
> me, personally!


Hmmm, you are aware that the blackberry outages affected verizon users
right?
Also, it only affected the email and messaging portion, they could still
make phone calls.


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Old 10-16-2011, 04:05 PM
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On 10/15/2011 10:40 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:

> It was the Sidekick platform, (known as the Danger Hiptop in Europe) and
> our good friends at Microsoft crashed it while trying to upgrade it.
> Microsoft bought the platform (and servers) from the company that created
> it, Danger, but in corporate raider mode, fired most of the Danger
> employees, some of whom might have told MS how to safely upgrade the
> system while it was running.


Reminds me when a friend of mine who was a network administrator was
laid off in a big layoff. They failed to have her debrief them before
they escorted her out, then they started calling her with questions
about the network. She offered to come back as a paid consultant to help
them, but they just wanted her to answer questions for free, including
providing them with passwords.

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Old 10-16-2011, 05:53 PM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 10/15/2011 11:00 PM, XS11E wrote:
>> "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My VZW phones have NEVER (to my knowledge) gone off line the way
>>> RIM/Blackberry did.

>>
>> Richard continues to prove he has no clue.

>
> I've been a Verizon Wireless subscriber for about twelve years
> now. VZW may have had outages during those years but NONE have
> affected me, personally!


You continue to show your ignorance, Elmo P. Shagnasty said it best:

"You, sir, are ignorant. Worse, you're ignorant about being ignorant.
To compound it triply, you're happy to tell the world how ignorant you
are."

Why not just STFU until you know what you're talking about? DO NOT
pass your ignorance on to others, OK?

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Old 10-16-2011, 05:57 PM
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Per sms88:
>They failed to have her debrief them before
>they escorted her out, then they started calling her with questions
>about the network. She offered to come back as a paid consultant to help
>them, but they just wanted her to answer questions for free, including
>providing them with passwords.


Hopefully she told them to pound sand....
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:59 PM
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"Don Schmidt" <Don Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:

> The app I miss most is a Credit Union Co-Op ATM locator. iphone has
> it!!


Any phone with internet access will give you the location of ATMs.

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Old 10-17-2011, 05:48 PM
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I have synced my iPhone 4 to Outlook 2007 on XP.
Calendar, notes (built-in-app), contacts.
I don't do my email on Outlook so I'm not syncing anything in mail through
it.
I'm now using Win7/Office 2010pro.
bj

"Don Schmidt" wrote in message
news:U9qdnYSJzc_NsAfTnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.palin acquisition...

I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.

My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.

Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?

I use Windows XP Pro.

Comments appreciated.

--
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Vancouver, USA


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Old 10-17-2011, 05:54 PM
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
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Per sms88:
>They failed to have her debrief them before
>they escorted her out, then they started calling her with questions
>about the network. She offered to come back as a paid consultant to help
>them, but they just wanted her to answer questions for free, including
>providing them with passwords.


Hopefully she told them to pound sand....
-
PeteCresswell
================================================== =======

A little reminiscent of a dozen years ago, pre-Y2K, when Big Companies where
imploring -- and offering big bucks to -- the Cobol programmers they'd
pushed out (into "early retirement") to come back off the beach and update
their programs for the new year. The young hotshots they'd embraced
(cheaper? more up-to-date?) didn't know diddly about Cobol & the companies
had to be sure things like payroll & accounting s/w would still work.

I was thinking of brushing up my skills & taking on some temp work but
decided not to. Even a brushed-up-30-year-rusty old Cobol programmer could
have made some good cash.
bj


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Old 10-17-2011, 07:08 PM
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Sounds like we have the same setup; Windows XP, Outlook 2007 for Contacts
and Calendar and using Outlook Express for email.

Thanks for sharing, very helpful.

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Vancouver, USA


"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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>I have synced my iPhone 4 to Outlook 2007 on XP.
> Calendar, notes (built-in-app), contacts.
> I don't do my email on Outlook so I'm not syncing anything in mail through
> it.
> I'm now using Win7/Office 2010pro.
> bj
>
> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message
> news:U9qdnYSJzc_NsAfTnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.palin acquisition...
>
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts
> are
> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>




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Old 10-17-2011, 09:06 PM
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Per bj:
>A little reminiscent of a dozen years ago, pre-Y2K, when Big Companies where
>imploring -- and offering big bucks to -- the Cobol programmers they'd
>pushed out (into "early retirement") to come back off the beach and update
>their programs for the new year. The young hotshots they'd embraced
>(cheaper? more up-to-date?) didn't know diddly about Cobol & the companies
>had to be sure things like payroll & accounting s/w would still work.
>
>I was thinking of brushing up my skills & taking on some temp work but
>decided not to. Even a brushed-up-30-year-rusty old Cobol programmer could
>have made some good cash.


The place that dumped us (about 400 people - virtually the entire
IT div) managed to lose the assembler source code for their
customer billing application's unpack routine shortly after the
changeover.

I saw the handwriting on the wall and grabbed every chance I
could get to learn PC-based development - and it worked out
pretty well in my second life.
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:07 PM
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On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>


Since the Iphone is an *Apple* product I wouldn't count on it!

You MIGHT get lucky but . . . .

Someday, somebody may come up with a standard for this sort of problem
but it's more likely that we will wind up with at least three mutually
incompatible protocols for synchronizing mobile devices!


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Old 10-17-2011, 11:29 PM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in message
news7CdnSJlWP6NBAHTnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
>> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts
>> are
>> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
>> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>>
>> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>>
>> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>>
>> I use Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>

>
> Since the Iphone is an *Apple* product I wouldn't count on it!
>
> You MIGHT get lucky but . . . .
>
> Someday, somebody may come up with a standard for this sort of problem but
> it's more likely that we will wind up with at least three mutually
> incompatible protocols for synchronizing mobile devices!
>


Geez...thank you Mr. Negative.

The answer to your question is a qualified YES. Both Microsoft and Apple
indicate that you can sync through iTunes. There may be other apps that do
it as well (iTunes isn't the easiest app I've every used).

Without getting bogged down in technical minucia that I don't understand, I
still use MS Office 2003 on a Vista (64bit) machine. I can sync my Outlook
Contacts with ease on my iPhone4. I don't use the Outlook calendar. As
indicated above, Apple support and Microsoft support both state that you can
sync Outlook 2007 and 2010 (again using iTunes), but since I don't have
these I will have to take their word for it.

From Microsoft:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ou...010266829.aspx

From Apple:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1386?viewlocale=en_US


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Old 10-18-2011, 12:32 AM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
>> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>>
>> I use Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>

>
> Since the Iphone is an *Apple* product I wouldn't count on it!
>
> You MIGHT get lucky but . . . .


Every iPhone, Android phone and Blackberry along with many dumb phones
will sync with Outlook through proper software.

Once again: You continue to show your ignorance, Elmo P. Shagnasty said
it best: "You, sir, are ignorant. Worse, you're ignorant about being
ignorant. To compound it triply, you're happy to tell the world how
ignorant you are."

Why not just STFU until you know what you're talking about? DO NOT
pass your ignorance on to others, OK?

> Someday, somebody may come up with a standard for this sort of
> problem


They already have and Outlook is the standard.

Again: You continue to show your ignorance, Elmo P. Shagnasty said it
best: "You, sir, are ignorant. Worse, you're ignorant about being
ignorant. To compound it triply, you're happy to tell the world how
ignorant you are."

Why not just STFU until you know what you're talking about? DO NOT
pass your ignorance on to others, OK?

Richard, PLEASE STOP POSTING BAD INFORMATION, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT IF SOMEONE BELIEVES YOU?

CONFINE YOUR POSTINGS TO THINGS YOU KNOW ABOUT!


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Old 10-18-2011, 12:40 AM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:07:27 -0400]:
> On 10/15/2011 9:03 PM, Don Schmidt wrote:
>> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts are
>> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
>> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>>
>> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>>
>> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>>
>> I use Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>

>
> Since the Iphone is an *Apple* product I wouldn't count on it!


Good grief. Shut up already. You never have any correct information anyway

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Old 10-18-2011, 05:27 PM
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Don Schmidt wrote:
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My
> Contacts are Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also
> Outlook calendar which are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>

There's a program called Companionlink, one which I've been using now for a
few years to sync my Outlook data to my phones. It works very well and can
be set to sync in the background so you don't have to do anything manually.
Look here http://www.companionlink.com/

My only warning is to not use any other syncing program along (ie.
syncinablink for one example) with it or you will end up with duplications.



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Old 10-19-2011, 04:53 AM
Todd Allcock
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At 18 Oct 2011 13:27:13 -0400 Carl wrote:
> Don Schmidt wrote:
> > I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My
> > Contacts are Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also
> > Outlook calendar which are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
> >
> > My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
> >
> > Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
> >
> > I use Windows XP Pro.
> >
> > Comments appreciated.
> >

> There's a program called Companionlink, one which I've been using now
> for a few years to sync my Outlook data to my phones. It works very
> well and can be set to sync in the background so you don't have to do
> anything manually. Look here http://www.companionlink.com/



iOS devices can simply use iTunes to sync with Outlook (2003 and up).
iTunes is essentially required to manage iOS devices anyway.

When Microsoft (finally!) moved Hotmail from its proprietary mobile sync
protocol to Exchange Activesync a year ago, Outlook no longer needed
third-party software to sync wirelessly with mobile phones. You can just
install MS' "Outlook Connector" plug-in to sync Outlook PIM data with a
Live/Hotmail account, then setup that account on any Exchange Activesync
compatible phone (e.g. virtually any smartphone- iOS, Android, WinMobile,
WP7, Palm/WebOS, Symbian, Blackberry...) and the PC and phone will sync.

This, of course, requires a certain trust in Microsoft, since they store
a copy of your data on thier servers, just like Google does with
Gmail/GooCalendar, or Apple now does with iCloud.


> My only warning is to not use any other syncing program along (ie.
> syncinablink for one example) with it or you will end up with

duplications.


Excellent advice. Two sync methods for the same data is one too many!



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Old 10-19-2011, 12:30 PM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:j7lle9$78b$1@dont-email.me...
> At 18 Oct 2011 13:27:13 -0400 Carl wrote:
>> Don Schmidt wrote:
>> > I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My
>> > Contacts are Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also
>> > Outlook calendar which are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>> >
>> > My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>> >
>> > Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>> >
>> > I use Windows XP Pro.
>> >
>> > Comments appreciated.
>> >

>> There's a program called Companionlink, one which I've been using now
>> for a few years to sync my Outlook data to my phones. It works very
>> well and can be set to sync in the background so you don't have to do
>> anything manually. Look here http://www.companionlink.com/

>
>
> iOS devices can simply use iTunes to sync with Outlook (2003 and up).
> iTunes is essentially required to manage iOS devices anyway.
>
> When Microsoft (finally!) moved Hotmail from its proprietary mobile sync
> protocol to Exchange Activesync a year ago, Outlook no longer needed
> third-party software to sync wirelessly with mobile phones. You can just
> install MS' "Outlook Connector" plug-in to sync Outlook PIM data with a
> Live/Hotmail account, then setup that account on any Exchange Activesync
> compatible phone (e.g. virtually any smartphone- iOS, Android, WinMobile,
> WP7, Palm/WebOS, Symbian, Blackberry...) and the PC and phone will sync.
>
> This, of course, requires a certain trust in Microsoft, since they store
> a copy of your data on thier servers, just like Google does with
> Gmail/GooCalendar, or Apple now does with iCloud.
>
>
>> My only warning is to not use any other syncing program along (ie.
>> syncinablink for one example) with it or you will end up with

> duplications.
>
>
> Excellent advice. Two sync methods for the same data is one too many!
>
>



Thank you Carl and Todd for your suggestions and comments; they are
appreciated very much.

--
Don
Vancouver, USA









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Old 10-20-2011, 02:53 PM
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That's what I was using, then it was XP/O2007 (contacts, calendar,
notes)/WLM (mail & usenet & RSS feeds)

A few months ago I got a new computer & am now using Win7-64-home
premium/O2010 (contacts & calendar)/OneNote (notes & more, though I still
put the occasional note in Outlook)/WLM (mail & usenet & RSS feeds).

It's all working nicely together but the only thing I really need/use
Outlook for is to sync with my iDevices. I'm considering switching the
contacts & calendar to a cloud, just haven't decided which one.
bj

"Don Schmidt" wrote in message
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Sounds like we have the same setup; Windows XP, Outlook 2007 for Contacts
and Calendar and using Outlook Express for email.

Thanks for sharing, very helpful.

--
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Vancouver, USA


"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:9vmdncXiZ5mc8gHTnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>I have synced my iPhone 4 to Outlook 2007 on XP.
> Calendar, notes (built-in-app), contacts.
> I don't do my email on Outlook so I'm not syncing anything in mail through
> it.
> I'm now using Win7/Office 2010pro.
> bj
>
> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message
> news:U9qdnYSJzc_NsAfTnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.palin acquisition...
>
> I'm a Verizon cell user presently using Blackberry Storm2. My Contacts
> are
> Microsoft Outlook Contacts and my calendar is also Outlook calendar which
> are synced to the Blackberry Storm2.
>
> My plan is to go to an iphone 4s or a 5 when available.
>
> Question; will the iphone sync with Microsoft Outlook?
>
> I use Windows XP Pro.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> --
> Don
> Vancouver, USA
>



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