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Old 01-27-2007, 06:55 PM
Ken Fredstrom
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Default Motorola phone tools and Vista

Has anyone got MPT to work with Vista??
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:55:48 -0700, Ken Fredstrom <kfredstrom@cox.net>
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>Has anyone got MPT to work with Vista??


Is this the first Vista compatibility question for this group?

Congratulations!!!

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Old 01-29-2007, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista


Ken Fredstrom Wrote:
> Has anyone got MPT to work with Vista??
> KEN


I doubt it since phone tools won't even work with WMP 11.


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Old 01-29-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

I got a reply from motorola saying they will be coming out with a
version that will work with Vista.
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:23:28 -0600, tavenger5
<tavenger5.2l5po2@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote:

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>Ken Fredstrom Wrote:
>> Has anyone got MPT to work with Vista??
>> KEN

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>I doubt it since phone tools won't even work with WMP 11.



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Old 01-30-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

"Ken Fredstrom" <kfredstrom@cox.net> wrote
>I got a reply from motorola saying they will be coming out with a
> version that will work with Vista...


Software developers have had Vista for over a year. Hang onto your wallet.
"a version" doesn't sound like a free upgrade to me.



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Old 01-31-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

Vista won't even support either of my inkjet printers. They are only 2
years old.

(I ran the compatibility program that MSFT offers. I also needed to have a
minimum 1 gig of ram. I use multiple monitors, and the video card is not
supported. Also, the VGA built into my mother board is incompatible. I
tried the test on my 2nd computer that runs WIN2K. The program refused to
even check. I guess Vista cannot upgrade 2K. They want you to buy XP
first, or something, maybe.)

On the Vista webpages, I could find no info on minimum processor speed.

All prices assumed an upgrade. They didn't even quote the price for a stand
alone version.

Another key missing question was how many computers you can install it on.
I know they want it to be one, without asking. However, in a home
environment, changing out computers is a regular thing. The question is,
did they cripple Vista so it is useless after one install?

Maybe I should buy stock in Apple.

"Ken Fredstrom" <kfredstrom@cox.net> wrote in message
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

In article <e%1wh.67343$qO4.25879@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net> , Cubit wrote:

> Another key missing question was how many computers you can install it on.


The answer to *that* has *always* been one computer per CD Key unless
you have a volume license. I'm not sure why you are even asking that
question.

> I know they want it to be one, without asking. However, in a home
> environment, changing out computers is a regular thing. The question is,
> did they cripple Vista so it is useless after one install?


*Moving* Vista from one computer to another shouldn't be a problem if
it's a full retail copy. OEM copies are tied to the computers they're
installed on, forever. Copying Vista won't work, assuming that it has
the same activation mechanism XP has.

But don't believe me - call Microsoft. They have a department that can
answer your questions.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/default.mspx

This is the business licensing website but call the listed 800 number
anyhow; they should still be able to answer your questions.



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Old 01-31-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:42:11 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>OEM copies are tied to the computers they're
>installed on, forever. Copying Vista won't work, assuming that it has
>the same activation mechanism XP has.


What constitutes a new computer? If I subsequently upgrade the hard
drive and/or the motherboard will I have to purchase a new license?

For us homebuilders, who are continually upgrading components, this
could be a problem.

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Old 01-31-2007, 10:54 PM
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In article <eqv1s293j4tartuiqb5ahf0fdicclnejkl@4ax.com>, Agent_C wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:42:11 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
><sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
>>OEM copies are tied to the computers they're
>>installed on, forever. Copying Vista won't work, assuming that it has
>>the same activation mechanism XP has.

>
> What constitutes a new computer? If I subsequently upgrade the hard
> drive and/or the motherboard will I have to purchase a new license?


If it's the same computer, you can call Microsoft's activation hotline
and explain the situation and you should be fine. Been there, done
that, had to wade through the phone menus.

> For us homebuilders, who are continually upgrading components, this
> could be a problem.


Well, true. I personally think Microslop could have done a better job
of preventing piracy by using some other method.


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Old 01-31-2007, 11:40 PM
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>> Another key missing question was how many computers you can install it
>> on.

>
> The answer to *that* has *always* been one computer per CD Key unless
> you have a volume license. I'm not sure why you are even asking that
> question.


Unlike XP, Vista volume licenses are counted at activation (like retail XP)
and deducted from the total originally purchased.



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Old 02-01-2007, 06:23 AM
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In article <GN9wh.476$6z6.300@newsfe06.lga>, Seven Inch Dilly wrote:

>> The answer to *that* has *always* been one computer per CD Key unless
>> you have a volume license. I'm not sure why you are even asking that
>> question.

>
> Unlike XP, Vista volume licenses are counted at activation (like retail XP)
> and deducted from the total originally purchased.


That doesn't change my answer.

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Old 02-02-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Motorola phone tools and Vista

Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> Well, true. I personally think Microslop could have done a better job
> of preventing piracy by using some other method.


The very few times Microsoft has been able to implement better methods,
they have. Just remember that in the context of piracy, "better" means
more money accruing to Microsoft.

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