The battery in my 4 year old Audiovox 9155-gpx is slowly dying and
before I simply replace it I have a question on service changes up and
coming. Is there anything planned (FCC or Verizon) that will make my
current phone useless any time soon? Not sure if it could be
reprogrammed to work on any ole system, it is almost 5 years old.
I've looked at some of the newer CP's and since I have no need for
music, video, camera, Internet, text msg, etc... it seems cheaper to buy
the battery as little as I use CP's.
If I'm going to be forced to buy new (big business always finds a way to
make equipment obsolete = force comsumers to spend money on new toys
<g>) any recommendations on one in the $100 range (if they offer one
that low w/o a contract)? TIA.
"Garden variety NG poster" <qwerty@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com> wrote in
message news:45B184C8.57AF@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com...
> The battery in my 4 year old Audiovox 9155-gpx is slowly dying and
> before I simply replace it I have a question on service changes up and
> coming. Is there anything planned (FCC or Verizon) that will make my
> current phone useless any time soon? Not sure if it could be
> reprogrammed to work on any ole system, it is almost 5 years old.
>
> I've looked at some of the newer CP's and since I have no need for
> music, video, camera, Internet, text msg, etc... it seems cheaper to buy
> the battery as little as I use CP's.
>
> If I'm going to be forced to buy new (big business always finds a way to
> make equipment obsolete = force comsumers to spend money on new toys
> <g>) any recommendations on one in the $100 range (if they offer one
> that low w/o a contract)? TIA.
Frankster wrote:
>
> Well... if you current phone is doing what you want, it's pretty hard to
> beat a $1.99 battery replacement... even after $8.00 shipping - LOL!
>
> http://search.ebay.com/search/search...55+GPX+Battery
>
> -Frank
Thanx, never considered looking on ebay for the battery. The ones I
found were eslewhere on the Net in the $20 and up range for reg & higher
capacity batteries. So if the phone will be useable for a few more
years, guess Verizon will have to stand there with their hands out
(rather than in my pocket) hoping someone else will come along and give
'em their money. One salesman was all over me like a fly on a, ah, er,
corn flake <g>. "Wanna buy a phone, can I help you chose a phone, wanna
see our current deals, made up your mind yet? how 'bout a new contract"
(I don't sign them anymore), he wouldn't go a-w-a-y. Thanx again!!!!!
> "Garden variety NG poster" <qwerty@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com> wrote in
> message news:45B184C8.57AF@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com...
> > The battery in my 4 year old Audiovox 9155-gpx is slowly dying and
> > before I simply replace it I have a question on service changes up and
> > coming. Is there anything planned (FCC or Verizon) that will make my
> > current phone useless any time soon? Not sure if it could be
> > reprogrammed to work on any ole system, it is almost 5 years old.
> >
> > I've looked at some of the newer CP's and since I have no need for
> > music, video, camera, Internet, text msg, etc... it seems cheaper to buy
> > the battery as little as I use CP's.
> >
> > If I'm going to be forced to buy new (big business always finds a way to
> > make equipment obsolete = force comsumers to spend money on new toys
> > <g>) any recommendations on one in the $100 range (if they offer one
> > that low w/o a contract)? TIA.
I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
after years of tough usage died. A caveat
about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
onerous and unrewarding. There are some
tempting buys including batteries, but getting
your battery from the expensive source could
be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
process disputes without charge..If you can
use a credit card, at least you can dispute
the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
Luck!!!
Jack Daniels wrote:
> I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
> after years of tough usage died. A caveat
> about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
> for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
> onerous and unrewarding. There are some
> tempting buys including batteries, but getting
> your battery from the expensive source could
> be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
> process disputes without charge..If you can
> use a credit card, at least you can dispute
> the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
> Luck!!!
>
>
I agree, I wouldn't buy a battery on ebay unless it clearly stated that
it was the correct OEM battery. The cheap batteries sold there typically
have crappy knock off cells and sometimes weird sizes.
Yeah, would hate to take a chance like that with $1.99! LOL.
-Frank
"Jack Daniels" <gator@mighty.co.za> wrote in message
news:45b1e590_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
> after years of tough usage died. A caveat
> about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
> for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
> onerous and unrewarding. There are some
> tempting buys including batteries, but getting
> your battery from the expensive source could
> be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
> process disputes without charge..If you can
> use a credit card, at least you can dispute
> the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
> Luck!!!
>
Frankster wrote:
>
> Yeah, would hate to take a chance like that with $1.99! LOL.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Jack Daniels" <gator@mighty.co.za> wrote in message
> news:45b1e590_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
> > after years of tough usage died. A caveat
> > about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
> > for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
> > onerous and unrewarding. There are some
> > tempting buys including batteries, but getting
> > your battery from the expensive source could
> > be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
> > process disputes without charge..If you can
> > use a credit card, at least you can dispute
> > the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
> > Luck!!!
Those other posters have one good point, if everyone sent the guy $1.99
+ shipping cost (they all inflate the actual shipping costs so they make
money here too) he'd be rich in no time at our expense. The only thing
that caught my attention on these ads was the term "Custom made to fit
your phone perfectly." If it's original equipment, it was custom made to
begin with. Their wording strongly suggests they make it. (Which means
ALL vendors of batteries like these replace them!) All batteries have a
limited shelf life. These can't be "the" original Verizon/manufacturer
supplied batteries, they have been replaced. Hopefully by quality
batteries. But I would hate to be scammed even for just 1.99 + 7.49.
http://mystore4u.com/products.asp?cat=194 $9.99 1000mAh + $3 shipping,
hmmmm, 1000mAh for 12.99 versus $9.48 if I get the low bid on eBay,
hmmmm, hmmmm, decisions, decisions, hmmmm... Anyone deal with them?
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:21:10 -0700, "Frankster" <Frank@spam2trash.com> wrote:
: "Jack Daniels" <gator@mighty.co.za> wrote in message
: news:45b1e590_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: >I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
: > after years of tough usage died. A caveat
: > about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
: > for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
: > onerous and unrewarding. There are some
: > tempting buys including batteries, but getting
: > your battery from the expensive source could
: > be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
: > process disputes without charge..If you can
: > use a credit card, at least you can dispute
: > the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
: > Luck!!!
:
: Yeah, would hate to take a chance like that with $1.99! LOL.
:
: -Frank
How loud will you be laughing when your $1.99 battery starts drooling its
bodily fluids inside your phone?
Garden variety NG poster wrote:
> Frankster wrote:
>> Yeah, would hate to take a chance like that with $1.99! LOL.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Jack Daniels" <gator@mighty.co.za> wrote in message
>> news:45b1e590_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>>> I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
>>> after years of tough usage died. A caveat
>>> about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
>>> for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
>>> onerous and unrewarding. There are some
>>> tempting buys including batteries, but getting
>>> your battery from the expensive source could
>>> be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
>>> process disputes without charge..If you can
>>> use a credit card, at least you can dispute
>>> the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
>>> Luck!!!
>
> Those other posters have one good point, if everyone sent the guy $1.99
> + shipping cost (they all inflate the actual shipping costs so they make
> money here too) he'd be rich in no time at our expense. The only thing
> that caught my attention on these ads was the term "Custom made to fit
> your phone perfectly." If it's original equipment, it was custom made to
> begin with. Their wording strongly suggests they make it. (Which means
> ALL vendors of batteries like these replace them!) All batteries have a
> limited shelf life. These can't be "the" original Verizon/manufacturer
> supplied batteries, they have been replaced. Hopefully by quality
> batteries. But I would hate to be scammed even for just 1.99 + 7.49.
Yes and no...
With the 9155 theres no real magic to the battery pack as the battery
cover is not part of the battery pack itself. Making a liion pack thats
equal performance to the original pack isn't rocket science.
What amuses me is people actually think the phone makers internally
manufacturer crap like batteries and chargers. For example - the 5v/1A
charger that came with my LG cellphone has the exact same molded shape
as a d-link branded 5v/1a psu feeding an ethernet switch under my desk.
The D-link mentions "Made in China", the LG (a South Korean company)
charger says "Made in China by Sunlin".
The LG VX9800's battery out says "Cell from Japan - Manufactured in
Korea"... So, possibly, LG molded the plastic - in the vx9800's case,
the battery is also the case cover itself. Its also appears to be a
snap-together battery case, so realistically you could buy a new
similar-capability lipo "sack" and replace the battery assuming its not
super-duper-glued together to the point of total destruction to disassemble.
Me? I've had equal experience with aftermarket and branded accessories.
It all depends on who *really* made it, and how much effort they put
into design and testing. It also comes down to the ability to buy 3-4
of something for half the price of buying the name brand accessory. I'm
entirely more likely to destroy or lose an accessory on accident... No
amount of oem branding can save a car charger from being crushed in your
passenger door, or accidentally leaving your data cable in a parking
lot. Been there/done that, and in both cases I had spares on-hand due
to the outrageously cheap price of accessories (vs shipping costs).
That savings starts to disappear if you're only buying one piece at a
time, though.
Now, personally, since I owned a 9155GPX about 3 years ago, I'll say I'd
be pretty anxious to replace it by now. Its RF performance is seriously
outclassed by newer chipsets. It also didn't have the greatest audio
quality around. The AMPS works well if you really need it, but its
getting progressively more useless as more AMPS sites "fail" and are
taken out of service. For me, its better to have solid CDMA service
than progressively-worse AMPS service, but that more depends on your
local situation.
> Yes and no...
>
> With the 9155 theres no real magic to the battery pack as the battery
> cover is not part of the battery pack itself. Making a liion pack thats
> equal performance to the original pack isn't rocket science.
For sure, to get comparable watt density and performance they would need
to use quality cells which are more expensive.
>
> What amuses me is people actually think the phone makers internally
> manufacturer crap like batteries and chargers. For example - the 5v/1A
> charger that came with my LG cellphone has the exact same molded shape
> as a d-link branded 5v/1a psu feeding an ethernet switch under my desk.
>
I don't think that is what people are saying when they say "OEM". It is
simply a guide where you know you are getting an equivalent component as
used by the original manufacturer. There are lots of really poor quality
Li-ion cells available. "Weng-Wo ltd" is very likely going to use the
cheapest cells they can find when making after market batteries.
> The D-link mentions "Made in China", the LG (a South Korean company)
> charger says "Made in China by Sunlin".
>
> The LG VX9800's battery out says "Cell from Japan - Manufactured in
> Korea"... So, possibly, LG molded the plastic - in the vx9800's case,
> the battery is also the case cover itself. Its also appears to be a
> snap-together battery case, so realistically you could buy a new
> similar-capability lipo "sack" and replace the battery assuming its not
> super-duper-glued together to the point of total destruction to
> disassemble.
>
> Me? I've had equal experience with aftermarket and branded accessories.
> It all depends on who *really* made it, and how much effort they put
> into design and testing. It also comes down to the ability to buy 3-4
> of something for half the price of buying the name brand accessory. I'm
> entirely more likely to destroy or lose an accessory on accident... No
> amount of oem branding can save a car charger from being crushed in your
> passenger door, or accidentally leaving your data cable in a parking
> lot. Been there/done that, and in both cases I had spares on-hand due
> to the outrageously cheap price of accessories (vs shipping costs). That
> savings starts to disappear if you're only buying one piece at a time,
> though.
>
> Now, personally, since I owned a 9155GPX about 3 years ago, I'll say I'd
> be pretty anxious to replace it by now. Its RF performance is seriously
> outclassed by newer chipsets. It also didn't have the greatest audio
> quality around. The AMPS works well if you really need it, but its
> getting progressively more useless as more AMPS sites "fail" and are
> taken out of service. For me, its better to have solid CDMA service
> than progressively-worse AMPS service, but that more depends on your
> local situation.
>
I have bought cell batteries (OEM only) many times from ebay. No issues at
all. I just ordered two OEM LG 8300 batteries for 10 bucks each. Verizon
sells them for $45 each. I also have bought two for my LG8000. They are
fully OEM and have lasted just as long as the original battery.
-Frank
"Garden variety NG poster" <qwerty@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com> wrote in
message news:45B27004.19C3@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.com...
> Frankster wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, would hate to take a chance like that with $1.99! LOL.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Jack Daniels" <gator@mighty.co.za> wrote in message
>> news:45b1e590_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> >I loved my 9155, but as things go it finally
>> > after years of tough usage died. A caveat
>> > about e-bay. You can be had. And, asking
>> > for help from e-bay or PayPal can be
>> > onerous and unrewarding. There are some
>> > tempting buys including batteries, but getting
>> > your battery from the expensive source could
>> > be the surest way to go. PayPal does not
>> > process disputes without charge..If you can
>> > use a credit card, at least you can dispute
>> > the results of a scam..My opinion FWIW..
>> > Luck!!!
>
> Those other posters have one good point, if everyone sent the guy $1.99
> + shipping cost (they all inflate the actual shipping costs so they make
> money here too) he'd be rich in no time at our expense. The only thing
> that caught my attention on these ads was the term "Custom made to fit
> your phone perfectly." If it's original equipment, it was custom made to
> begin with. Their wording strongly suggests they make it. (Which means
> ALL vendors of batteries like these replace them!) All batteries have a
> limited shelf life. These can't be "the" original Verizon/manufacturer
> supplied batteries, they have been replaced. Hopefully by quality
> batteries. But I would hate to be scammed even for just 1.99 + 7.49.
>
> http://mystore4u.com/products.asp?cat=194 $9.99 1000mAh + $3 shipping,
> hmmmm, 1000mAh for 12.99 versus $9.48 if I get the low bid on eBay,
> hmmmm, hmmmm, decisions, decisions, hmmmm... Anyone deal with them?
>
> http://www.factorydirectcellular.com...FQLYYgod70iyKg
> wants $23 for a higher capacity battery.
>
> http://www.1800mobiles.com/audiovox-...m-battery.html
> wants $17 These are the lowest priced replacements I've found for 900mAh
>
> http://www.cellphoneshop.net/libaforau91.html $14.90
George wrote:
> Balsof Steele wrote:
>
>> Yes and no...
>>
>> With the 9155 theres no real magic to the battery pack as the battery
>> cover is not part of the battery pack itself. Making a liion pack
>> thats equal performance to the original pack isn't rocket science.
>
> For sure, to get comparable watt density and performance they would need
> to use quality cells which are more expensive.
So would the cellphone manufacturer. The 9155's stock battery has lame
specs but works fine due to the lack of power-eating components (color
screen, fast processor, etc)
>>
>> What amuses me is people actually think the phone makers internally
>> manufacturer crap like batteries and chargers. For example - the
>> 5v/1A charger that came with my LG cellphone has the exact same molded
>> shape as a d-link branded 5v/1a psu feeding an ethernet switch under
>> my desk.
>>
>
> I don't think that is what people are saying when they say "OEM". It is
> simply a guide where you know you are getting an equivalent component as
> used by the original manufacturer. There are lots of really poor quality
> Li-ion cells available. "Weng-Wo ltd" is very likely going to use the
> cheapest cells they can find when making after market batteries.
Well, OEM is used two ways:
The OEM = this is stuff made by the component. In the case of the LG
phone its Sunlin, of China.
to OEM specification = somebody's interpretation of what they think the
OEM meant to make. In some cases this is equally as good, rarely
better, and often worse than original. Buyer beware.
IMHO, the phone manufacturers generally good components, but theres
really absolutely no magic going on. Yes, often these companies make
stupid corner-cutting moves to save a buck but I've also seen actual
"phone manufacturer branded/included" chargers/cables/batteries
unnecessarily suck too.
"Frankster" wrote
>I have bought cell batteries (OEM only) many times from ebay. No issues at
>all..They...have lasted just as long as the original battery.
Ditto. What I've not seen mentioned in this thread is the fact that many
eBay sellers simply buy batteries in bulk lots direct from the Asian
manufacturers and sell them in ones and twos. The dozen or so that I've
bought on eBay or through Amazon resellers were all identical to replacement
batteries in the local carrier's retail store, but without the 500% markup
and annoying retail packaging that needs power tools to open and ends up in
my local landfill. The assumption that a $15 battery on eBay must
necessarily be inferior to a $50 battery is just wrong. Typical cell phone
batteries in wholesale quantities are under $10. Because the retail markup
is so high you don't have to sell inferior batteries to make a profit. Doing
so quickly leads to negative feedback in an open market like eBay.
On 1/19/2007 8:55 PM, Garden variety NG poster wrote:
> The battery in my 4 year old Audiovox 9155-gpx is slowly dying and
> before I simply replace it I have a question on service changes up and
> coming. Is there anything planned (FCC or Verizon) that will make my
> current phone useless any time soon? Not sure if it could be
> reprogrammed to work on any ole system, it is almost 5 years old.
>
> I've looked at some of the newer CP's and since I have no need for
> music, video, camera, Internet, text msg, etc... it seems cheaper to buy
> the battery as little as I use CP's.
>
> If I'm going to be forced to buy new (big business always finds a way to
> make equipment obsolete = force comsumers to spend money on new toys
> <g>) any recommendations on one in the $100 range (if they offer one
> that low w/o a contract)? TIA.
I guess an iPhone is out of the question, huh?
--
Ted Polk
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could
When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most
trivial of things can become deadly projectiles.
Seven Inch Dilly wrote:
> "Frankster" wrote
>> I have bought cell batteries (OEM only) many times from ebay. No issues at
>> all..They...have lasted just as long as the original battery.
>
> Ditto. What I've not seen mentioned in this thread is the fact that many
> eBay sellers simply buy batteries in bulk lots direct from the Asian
> manufacturers and sell them in ones and twos. The dozen or so that I've
> bought on eBay or through Amazon resellers were all identical to replacement
> batteries in the local carrier's retail store, but without the 500% markup
> and annoying retail packaging that needs power tools to open and ends up in
> my local landfill. The assumption that a $15 battery on eBay must
> necessarily be inferior to a $50 battery is just wrong.
But no one said that. The caution was that there are a lot of knock off
batteries on ebay that are junk and it is important to try to identify
that you aren't getting those. Price has nothing to do with it.
Typical cell phone
> batteries in wholesale quantities are under $10. Because the retail markup
> is so high you don't have to sell inferior batteries to make a profit. Doing
> so quickly leads to negative feedback in an open market like eBay.
>
>
Unfortunately they are really common. Here is a quick sample of a "high
quality generic (non-OEM) Battery" (language from the ad):
New phone or new battery on old phone? 
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