Ok, I want to ask here the same questions I asked Verizon to see if
they told the truth (maybe they lied to make a sale???)....
1- Is it true that the verizon phones (the different brands offered
on their own website) that contain the microSD memory cards can have
the address book copied to this memory card? And am I able to do it
myself without going to the store?
2- Do the verizon phones that have the GPS built in allow the GPS to
function fully?
3- I was told by verizon that the verizon phones that contain built
in SIM cards do not allow the address books to be copied to them. Is
this true?
4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
service?
If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
Thanks in advance.
Observer wrote:
> Ok, I want to ask here the same questions I asked Verizon to see if
> they told the truth (maybe they lied to make a sale???)....
>
> 1- Is it true that the verizon phones (the different brands offered
> on their own website) that contain the microSD memory cards can have
> the address book copied to this memory card? And am I able to do it
> myself without going to the store?
>
> 2- Do the verizon phones that have the GPS built in allow the GPS to
> function fully?
>
> 3- I was told by verizon that the verizon phones that contain built
> in SIM cards do not allow the address books to be copied to them. Is
> this true?
>
> 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> service?
>
> If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> Thanks in advance.
The first thing to learn about VZW is that they cripple the phones that
they sell (or order them crippled from the factory - same difference).
If a feature that Motorola builds into its phones is something you
need/want, check to make certain that it actually works in the phone
that VZW sells you! Do this BEFORE you pay them any money. You CAN
hack the phone to re-enable things at the cost of voiding your warranty!
The GPS on some phones can be used for navigation, at extra cost. On
others, I believe it's linked to 911; when you dial 911 the police, if
so equipped, can read your location out of your phone. It won't tell
YOU where you are. Also note that there is an uncertainty of about 300
feet in the location given by a civilian GPS.
I believe you CAN buy an unsubsidized, uncrippled phone and activate it
but I'm not certain that you can buy it from VZW! You CAN activate it
on VZW's network; just be certain it's compatible; there are at least
two mutually incompatible technologies; CDMA and GSM. I believe that
VZW's network is CDMA. I think AT&T may be GSM but find out for sure if
it's important to you!
"Observer" <void@use.net> wrote in message
news:ri1d25hs9df1qv07mv7n5hq6a2sdfn5b6h@4ax.com...
> Ok, I want to ask here the same questions I asked Verizon to see if
> they told the truth (maybe they lied to make a sale???)....
>
> 1- Is it true that the verizon phones (the different brands offered
> on their own website) that contain the microSD memory cards can have
> the address book copied to this memory card? And am I able to do it
> myself without going to the store?
>
> 2- Do the verizon phones that have the GPS built in allow the GPS to
> function fully?
>
> 3- I was told by verizon that the verizon phones that contain built
> in SIM cards do not allow the address books to be copied to them. Is
> this true?
>
> 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> service?
>
> If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> Thanks in advance.
>
IMO, the only reason to go with any carrier is their coverage in the areas
that you plan to use the phone. As far as address books go, some phones work
with Bitpim, and Verizon has a free web based backup-restore service that
works fine too
Observer wrote:
> Ok, I want to ask here the same questions I asked Verizon to see if
> they told the truth (maybe they lied to make a sale???)....
>
> 1- Is it true that the verizon phones (the different brands offered
> on their own website) that contain the microSD memory cards can have
> the address book copied to this memory card? And am I able to do it
> myself without going to the store?
>
> 2- Do the verizon phones that have the GPS built in allow the GPS to
> function fully?
>
> 3- I was told by verizon that the verizon phones that contain built
> in SIM cards do not allow the address books to be copied to them. Is
> this true?
>
> 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> service?
>
> If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> Thanks in advance.
If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
You can also manually make changes on the web site.
I've heard of so many times that chips or cards get damaged so having my
address book on their server seemed like a good thing for me. None of
the people in my address book ever got bothered by VZW because of it.
Verizon is CDMA.
AT&T is GSM
Having traveled all over the US and Canada while I lived in an RV for 9
years, I can tell you that my Verizon phone was working for voice and
data while many At&T phones were getting no signals.
I don't mess around with my phone. It makes and receives calls and
that's all I want it to do. I've been with VZW since 1995 with an old
bag phone and since 2000 with a regular little cell phone. I've had
nothing but good service.
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>
> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
....only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
made some changes to the
BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy feature
they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
"William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
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> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>>
>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
>> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>
> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
> made some changes to the
> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old to
use the free service?
>
>
>
"RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
> news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
>>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>>>
>>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
>>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
>>> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>>
>> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
>> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
>> made some changes to the
>> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
>> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
>
> If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
> free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old
> to use the free service?
Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed their
software.
Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked the
prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing statements,
started charging for data instead of letting you use your minutes, etc, etc.
They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
William Munny wrote:
> "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> "William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
>> news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
>>>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>>>>
>>>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
>>>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
>>>> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>>> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
>>> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
>>> made some changes to the
>>> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
>>> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
>> If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
>> free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old
>> to use the free service?
>
> Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed their
> software.
>
> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked the
> prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing statements,
> started charging for data instead of letting you use your minutes, etc, etc.
>
> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
>
>
I can get calls. I can make calls. I'm happy. I don't feel like a sheep.
"William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
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> "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>> "William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
>> news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>
>>>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
>>>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>>>>
>>>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
>>>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the
>>>> server. You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>>>
>>> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
>>> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
>>> made some changes to the
>>> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
>>> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
>>
>> If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
>> free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old
>> to use the free service?
>
> Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed their
> software.
>
> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked
> the prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing
> statements, started charging for data instead of letting you use your
> minutes, etc, etc.
>
> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
We are not sheep. Other than an ETF, there is nothing binding anyone to this
company. While there are certainly things I don't like about VZW, ultimately
for me, the good outweighs the bad, and no other service is offering me
anything better.
On Jun 3, 5:10*pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Observer wrote:
> > 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> > verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> > service?
>
> > If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> > free to add to your post. *I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" *It is free.
This only works if your phone Get It Now capable to get and download
the app. Otherwise I use Susteen Data Pilot via Bluetooth or cable
On Jun 3, 7:01*pm, "William Munny" <w...@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote:
> "RBM" <r...@noemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "William Munny" <w...@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
> >news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
> >> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com.. .
>
> >>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
> >>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" *It is free.
>
> >>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
> >>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the server.
> >>> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>
> >> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG VX-4400
> >> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be but they
> >> made some changes to the
> >> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
> >> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
>
> > If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
> > free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old
> > to use the free service?
>
> Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed their
> software.
>
> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked the
> prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing statements,
> started charging for data instead of letting you use your minutes, etc, etc.
>
> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
I would have to disagree with you there. They treat customers like
shit.
They tried that early termination fee bs with me and I called their
hand. I filed a complaint with FCC after they refused to port my
number to T-Mo for spite and I found they had forged a contract. A
purported VZW manager called the land-line and pretended to want to
negotiate, but the message volume was turned down so low I could not
make out the number to call or the name of the VZW manager. Of
course, they will tell FCC they tried valiantly to settle the matter,
the big lying frauds.
Deal with VZW, and you're asking for trouble, and Janet is a VZW shill.
"jl" <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:017d7b27-742b-40ab-bc08-80b66c8b2402@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
>> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
> I would have to disagree with you there. They treat customers like
> shit.
>
> They tried that early termination fee bs with me and I called their
> hand. I filed a complaint with FCC after they refused to port my
> number to T-Mo for spite and I found they had forged a contract. A
> purported VZW manager called the land-line and pretended to want to
> negotiate, but the message volume was turned down so low I could not
> make out the number to call or the name of the VZW manager. Of
> course, they will tell FCC they tried valiantly to settle the matter,
> the big lying frauds.
>
> Deal with VZW, and you're asking for trouble, and Janet is a VZW shill.
Actually, you're an anti-Verizon troll, and Janet is merely a satisfied
customer. Just in case anyone's keeping score.
With 80 million customers they're bound to f--- up the accounts of a few,
like yours obviously was, (you conveniently gloss over the part of the story
you originally told that this "forged contract" was initiated by you when
you upgraded to a new phone, but then changed your mind and returned it, and
for whatever reason the contract the new phone triggered wasn't cancelled by
the return, unknown to you until you tried to cancel service later.)
Accusing a megacorp of "refusing to port" your number "for spite" assigns to
you the type of self-importance that conspiracy therorists and paranoids
have. You must be pretty darned important if _"they"_ are targeting _you_.
In reality, you're just a tick in a ledger somewhere, that Verizon doesn't
know, or could care less about, in a crowed field of 80 million mostly
satisfied customers (according to surveys like J.D. Powers.)
Personally, I don't like Verizon's policies, particularly their handset
defeaturing and their mandatory smartphone data plans, so I choose not to do
business with them. I don't begrudge them for trying to extract every dime
possible from their customers- that's the function of a business, but in a
competitive marketplace, I'm certainly free to seek alternatives, and so I
do.
I think Verizon uses the power of the "The Network" (whether it's real or
simply perceived by years of advertising) to get away with anti-consumer
policies that people wouldn't put up with from other providers, but I don't
believe they "defraud" customers intentionally. It's simply too much risk
for too little reward. Obviously, however, you believe the entire corporate
chain of command at Verizon from CEO to front-line customer service rep is
engaged in a conspiracy to collect an undeserved $200 EFT from you "just for
spite." That's certainly plausible, too, I guess...
jl <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:017d7b27-742b-40ab-bc08-80b66c8b2402@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com:
> On Jun 3, 7:01*pm, "William Munny" <w...@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote:
>> "RBM" <r...@noemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "William Munny" <w...@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
>> >news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>> >> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com.. .
>>
>> >>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can
>> >>> have fr
> ee
>> >>> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" *It is free.
>>
>> >>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones,
>> >>> it's there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in
>> >>> the serv
> er.
>> >>> You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>>
>> >> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG
>> >> VX-44
> 00
>> >> can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be
>> >> but th
> ey
>> >> made some changes to the
>> >> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very
>> >> handy feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the
>> >> monthly bill.
>>
>> > If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the
>> > service is free. Why would they give you money back because you use
>> > a phone too ol
> d
>> > to use the free service?
>>
>> Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed
>> their software.
>>
>> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they
>> jacked
> the
>> prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing
>> statemen
> ts,
>> started charging for data instead of letting you use your minutes,
>> etc, e
> tc.
>>
>> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
>
> I would have to disagree with you there. They treat customers like
> shit.
How do they good such good customer satisfaction numbers from all of the
independent research firms if they treat their customers like that?
>
> They tried that early termination fee bs with me and I called their
> hand. I filed a complaint with FCC after they refused to port my
> number to T-Mo for spite and I found they had forged a contract. A
> purported VZW manager called the land-line and pretended to want to
> negotiate,
Curious- how do you know he was pretending?
> but the message volume was turned down so low I could not
> make out the number to call or the name of the VZW manager. Of
> course, they will tell FCC they tried valiantly to settle the matter,
> the big lying frauds.
>
> Deal with VZW, and you're asking for trouble, and Janet is a VZW
> shill.
>
"Jack" <jeeptop2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6c5943d-661b-4826-a659-4f77f9afb33f@e20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 3, 5:10 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Observer wrote:
> > 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> > verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> > service?
>
> > If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> > free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have free
> address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
> This only works if your phone Get It Now capable to get and download
> the app. Otherwise I use Susteen Data Pilot via Bluetooth or cable
> Jack
No, it's more than that. Some of the older phones (like the LG VX4400) are
Get It Now capable-- but can't use Backup Assistant.
"William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
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> "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>> "William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
>> news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>
>
> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked
> the prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing
> statements, started charging for data instead of letting you use your
> minutes, etc, etc.
>
> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
Seems to work for them. They are now the largest carrier in the country
(after acquiring Alltel). So big, in fact, that the FCC recently forced
them to sell some assets (customers). AT&T paid $2.35 billion for 1.5
million customers whose phones don't even work on the AT&T network. In
geneal, Verizon still has better overall coverage areas, with fewer dropped
calls and better call quality than the other carriers. As 3G and the
technology that will supercede it expand....who knows. Until them, baaa!
> No, it's more than that. Some of the older phones (like the LG
> VX4400) are Get It Now capable-- but can't use Backup Assistant.
The LG VX4400 is listed in BitPim so there's no need of Backup
Assistant. I much prefer NOT to use Backup Assistant, it uses either
minutes or data so there's at least a small cost no matter what plan
you're on.
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
news:7MCdnYEhr59MDrvXnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@giganews.com :
> Also note that there is an uncertainty of about 300
> feet in the location given by a civilian GPS.
>
That is a fair statement in a city canyon because of reflections and lack
of direct sky access. "Selective Availability" the paranoid
schitzophrenics in the US Military imposed has been turned off for years,
since GLASSNOST Russian GPS was more accurate, anyway.
In an open mall parking lot, the accuracy of my 20 channel, WAAS-
compensated Nokia Bluetooth little GPS box is half the width of the parking
space sitting on the dash in the hot sun.
It's all about direct access to the sky, direct path to the birds.
--
-----
Larry
If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
> I would have to disagree with you there. They treat customers like
> shit.
>
> They tried that early termination fee bs with me and I called their
> hand. I filed a complaint with FCC after they refused to port my
> number to T-Mo for spite and I found they had forged a contract. A
> purported VZW manager called the land-line and pretended to want to
> negotiate, but the message volume was turned down so low I could not
> make out the number to call or the name of the VZW manager. Of
> course, they will tell FCC they tried valiantly to settle the matter,
> the big lying frauds.
>
> Deal with VZW, and you're asking for trouble, and Janet is a VZW shill.
>
>
Hmm...it seems I'm not alone in my experiences, after all.
jl, plan on being attacked....regularly.
--
-----
Larry
If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
Sorry, couldn't help it. It was just out there, waiting...
Dean
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> William Munny wrote:
>> "RBM" <rbm@noemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4a26f604$0$31279$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> "William Munny" <wm@jbigwhiskey.org> wrote in message
>>> news:h06qif$5ak$1@news.albasani.net...
>>>> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:0008257f$0$6099$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> If you open a "My Verizon" account on their web site, you can have
>>>>> free address book backup. It's called "Backup Assistant" It is free.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's kept in their server so any time you need to change phones, it's
>>>>> there and waiting. It will update itself daily by calling in the
>>>>> server. You can also manually make changes on the web site.
>>>> ...only if you use a newer model phone. The older ones, e.g., LG
>>>> VX-4400 can't update and the service isn't available now. It used to be
>>>> but they made some changes to the
>>>> BA software a few months back and it's gone now. Bummer-- very handy
>>>> feature they took away from me but wouldn't reduce the monthly bill.
>>> If you have a "my verizon" account, which costs nothing, the service is
>>> free. Why would they give you money back because you use a phone too old
>>> to use the free service?
>>
>> Because they took away a feature/benefit I used when they changed their
>> software.
>>
>> Sticking it to the customer is never a good idea-- like when they jacked
>> the prices on text messages, started charging for a detailed billing
>> statements, started charging for data instead of letting you use your
>> minutes, etc, etc.
>>
>> They have a good network-- but treat customers like sheep...
> I can get calls. I can make calls. I'm happy. I don't feel like a sheep.
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9C218CCD0FBE4noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
> jl <jls1016@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:017d7b27-742b-40ab-bc08-
> 80b66c8b2402@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I would have to disagree with you there. They treat customers like
>> shit.
>>
>> They tried that early termination fee bs with me and I called their
>> hand. I filed a complaint with FCC after they refused to port my
>> number to T-Mo for spite and I found they had forged a contract. A
>> purported VZW manager called the land-line and pretended to want to
>> negotiate, but the message volume was turned down so low I could not
>> make out the number to call or the name of the VZW manager. Of
>> course, they will tell FCC they tried valiantly to settle the matter,
>> the big lying frauds.
>>
>> Deal with VZW, and you're asking for trouble, and Janet is a VZW shill.
>>
>>
>
> Hmm...it seems I'm not alone in my experiences, after all.
>
> jl, plan on being attacked....regularly.
>
>
>
> --
> -----
> Larry
>
> If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
> is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
Sprint treated me really nicely, but their service was awful in my area. I'm
not as concerned with how VZW treats me as I am about the quality of their
service compared to the others in my area. I'm very satisfied.
I notice in your next post that you are asking about using an older phone,
yet you are not "with Verizon" (yet).
I imagine you will, if you decide to do business with them, get a brand-new
phone from VZW, which will be capable of anything they can think of (much of
which will cost you, but....). I'm just wondering why you'd bother using an
"older phone" if you're signing up for a new line of service, and would be
entitled to a very cheap, if not free, phone.
That said,
1/ I've been with them for close to 15 years. No major issues. I talk and
text, that's pretty much it.
2/ Geographically, our area is a little rough. Cell service can be spotty. I
carry a Sprint/Nextel for work. Fairly often, I have to resort to using my
personal VZW phone when the other one won't work. Other co-workers, as well
as vendors, etc, have agreed with my experience.
3/ I use VZW's free "Backup Assistant" without a problem. It contacts the
server at about 309PM each day (it gives you a rough choice of time-of-day),
and updates the server with any additions/changes I've made. I can print a
copy of my contacts list at home any time I want, and when I get a new
phone, I download the list to the phone in about 1 minute. If my phone
breaks when I am out of town, I can log in to BA from any computer and get
any phone number from my contact list (or print up a copy of the list). I'm
pretty sure VZW came up with this in response to their competitors' ability
to swap contact lists simply by swapping SIM cards (since VZW doesn't use
SIM cards), and I think it's a reasonable alternative. BTW, I don't know if
I'm just lucky, or if the other poster is wrong, but I am never charged
airtime for the BA daily update, and I don't have data service. BA has never
cost me a cent.
YMMV, but my experience with VZW has been positive overall. And if that
makes me a "shill", oh well.
Out of 80 million people, there would have to be many thousands who have had
problems with any company. I don't doubt them, but I'm not one.
Dean
"Observer" <void@use.net> wrote in message
news:ri1d25hs9df1qv07mv7n5hq6a2sdfn5b6h@4ax.com...
> Ok, I want to ask here the same questions I asked Verizon to see if
> they told the truth (maybe they lied to make a sale???)....
>
> 1- Is it true that the verizon phones (the different brands offered
> on their own website) that contain the microSD memory cards can have
> the address book copied to this memory card? And am I able to do it
> myself without going to the store?
>
> 2- Do the verizon phones that have the GPS built in allow the GPS to
> function fully?
>
> 3- I was told by verizon that the verizon phones that contain built
> in SIM cards do not allow the address books to be copied to them. Is
> this true?
>
> 4- If question #1 is negative and #3 true, how do you backup your
> verizon address books without going to the store or using an on line
> service?
>
> If you think there is anything else I need to consider please feel
> free to add to your post. I need to learn about Verizon good or bad.
> Thanks in advance.
> 3/ I use VZW's free "Backup Assistant" without a problem. It contacts the
> server at about 309PM each day (it gives you a rough choice of time-of-day),
> and updates the server with any additions/changes I've made. I can print a
> copy of my contacts list at home any time I want, and when I get a new
> phone, I download the list to the phone in about 1 minute. If my phone
> breaks when I am out of town, I can log in to BA from any computer and get
> any phone number from my contact list (or print up a copy of the list). I'm
> pretty sure VZW came up with this in response to their competitors' ability
> to swap contact lists simply by swapping SIM cards (since VZW doesn't use
> SIM cards), and I think it's a reasonable alternative. BTW, I don't know if
> I'm just lucky, or if the other poster is wrong, but I am never charged
> airtime for the BA daily update, and I don't have data service. BA has never
> cost me a cent.
I've never paid for it, either. I don't even have a data plan.
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns9C218CF37C4C0noonehomecom@74.209.131.13:
> John Blutarsky <bluto@faber.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9C209FF88B1A8blutofabercom@85.214.105.209:
>
>> How do they good such good customer satisfaction numbers from all of
>> the independent research firms if they treat their customers like
>> that?
>>
>>
>
> Buy it.
>
>
>
not yet going with verizon and some questions 
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