On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
not available.
Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
getting disconnected, until you finally get through
On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>
> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
> not available.
>
> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>
> Any idea what is going on?
I think you just found out WHY Verizon Wireless is a successful company!
Page Plus clearly doesn't know its *** from a hole in the ground.
It's cheap because people won't pay high prices for poor or non-existent
service.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:11:06 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>
>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>> not available.
>>
>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>
>> Any idea what is going on?
>
>I think you just found out WHY Verizon Wireless is a successful company!
>
>Page Plus clearly doesn't know its *** from a hole in the ground.
>
>It's cheap because people won't pay high prices for poor or non-existent
>service.
It turns out, that in spite of their earlier denials, it's Verizon
that screwed things up. So the people who don't know their *** frtom a
hole in the ground that did nothing wrong, and your "success" Verizon
at fault.
Annything that you feel you can pontificate on from complete
ignorance?
For the difference in cost (PP $45 a year vs Verizon $450 per year),
you'd expect Verizon to be flawless, but they caused the problem in
thsi instance. It was a network problem, and guess who owns the
network Page Plus sells - Verizon.
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:49:04 -0800, meh <you@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:11:31 -0800, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:11:06 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>><rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>>> not available.
>>>>
>>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>>I think you just found out WHY Verizon Wireless is a successful company!
>>>
>>>Page Plus clearly doesn't know its *** from a hole in the ground.
>>>
>>>It's cheap because people won't pay high prices for poor or non-existent
>>>service.
>>
>>
>>It turns out, that in spite of their earlier denials, it's Verizon
>>that screwed things up.
>
>I'm guessing they never 'released' (or just delayed) the number to PP.
>
>
>
They must have released the number to Page Plus because it all worked
from Jan 2 till recently. My guess is that they tried to take it back.
Page Plus says that I'm not the only one and all involve numbers
recently ported from Verzion.
>
>
On 1/20/12 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>
> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
> not available.
>
> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>
> Any idea what is going on?
Maybe try dialing *22890 SEND to reprogram the phone for P+
--
These are the charges as recorded this day.
Faithfully submitted,
Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant-at-Arms.
On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>
> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
> not available.
>
> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>
> Any idea what is going on?
On 1/21/12 4:50 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<4f1af283$0$31127$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.ast raweb.com>,
> Janet Wilder<kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>
>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>> not available.
>>>
>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>
>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> You get what you pay for?
>
> hmmmmmmm. As reportedly it turned out, this was a VZW issue all along.
>
> You *don't* get what you pay for, is what's happening. IOW, quit paying
> so damn much to "feel good" about what you're buying. VZW doesn't give
> a ****.
>
> Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
> for much more money.
Easy there boy, you're challenging her core values, fundamental
self-concept, and deep-seated sense of self-worth.
After all if it weren't for tourists and people like Janet, who would be
left to pay full price so the rest of us could continue to skate by for
30 cents on the dollar?
--
These are the charges as recorded this day.
Faithfully submitted,
Douglas C. Neidermeyer, Sergeant-at-Arms.
On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>
> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
> not available.
>
> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>
> Any idea what is going on?
Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
what you don't pay for!
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:50:30 -0500]:
> In article <4f1af283$0$31127$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.c om>,
> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> > On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>> > on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>> > phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>> >
>> > Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>> > you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>> > not available.
>> >
>> > Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>> > And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>> > getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>> >
>> > Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> You get what you pay for?
>
> hmmmmmmm. As reportedly it turned out, this was a VZW issue all along.
>
> You *don't* get what you pay for, is what's happening. IOW, quit paying
> so damn much to "feel good" about what you're buying. VZW doesn't give
> a ****.
>
> Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
> for much more money.
If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
Justin wrote the following on 1/22/2012 4:30 AM (ET):
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:50:30 -0500]:
>> In article <4f1af283$0$31127$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.c om>,
>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>>> not available.
>>>>
>>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>> You get what you pay for?
>> hmmmmmmm. As reportedly it turned out, this was a VZW issue all along.
>>
>> You *don't* get what you pay for, is what's happening. IOW, quit paying
>> so damn much to "feel good" about what you're buying. VZW doesn't give
>> a ****.
>>
>> Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
>> for much more money.
>
> If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
>
For many people, a cell phone that can make and receive calls is all
that is needed. For other people, a cell phone needs to be a pocket
sized entertainment center.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @
On 1/22/2012 8:46 AM, willshak wrote:
> Justin wrote the following on 1/22/2012 4:30 AM (ET):
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:50:30 -0500]:
>> If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
>>
>
> For many people, a cell phone that can make and receive calls is all
> that is needed. For other people, a cell phone needs to be a pocket
> sized entertainment center.
>
I'm one of those. My Android phone is the best toy I have ever owned and
it also makes and receives phone calls.
My phone keeps my shopping lists, my notes to myself, my calender, helps
me with finding places, answers questions, translates, and entertains me
when I'm waiting at the doctor's office. It's a "dream come true" for
this aging ADHD grandma :-)
On 1/22/2012 3:49 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<jfgkvc$cj1$1@dont-email.me>, Justin<nospam@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
>>> for much more money.
>>
>> If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
>
> For many many people, they *do* offer the same cell phone service.
Not true. For the vast majority of people they offer better service.
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4f1cd614$0$1721$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> On 1/22/2012 3:49 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article<jfgkvc$cj1$1@dont-email.me>, Justin<nospam@insightbb.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
>>>> for much more money.
>>>
>>> If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
>>
>> For many many people, they *do* offer the same cell phone service.
>
> Not true. For the vast majority of people they offer better service.
Nah. They offer the same "cellphone service" (as VZ prepaid); better price;
and ??? "customer service"
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:14:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
<kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>
>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>> not available.
>>
>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>
>> Any idea what is going on?
>
>You get what you pay for?
How did I pay Verizon to screw up the Page Plus number porting?
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>
>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>> not available.
>>
>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>
>> Any idea what is going on?
>
>Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>
>You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>what you don't pay for!
Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
a Verizon problem.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:52:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <5_GdnRFa-OaZ9obSnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> > Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>> > And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>> > getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>> >
>> > Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>
>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>> what you don't pay for!
>
>Unless you get FAR, FAR LESS than what you pay for--which is what
>happened in this case, as Verizon dropped the ball and screwed up and
>caused grief, all the while denying it.
>
>And then you DO get what you pay for in PagePlus Cellular.
>
>Huh. Go figure. Spending bunches of money with Big Corp gets you
>screwed, not unlike gambling in a Mafia casino.
The phone in question is my wife's. Her usage is minimal and no need
for data. At Verizon, the cost of the lowest price plan is $40 a month
plus texts at 20 cents each. For what she uses, I can get the same
usage, with the Verizon prepaid network, for about $40 a year.
There are people whose needs require plans like Verizon's. She's not
one of them.
On 1/23/2012 5:49 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:14:45 -0600, Janet Wilder
> <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2012 7:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>
>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>> not available.
>>>
>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>
>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> You get what you pay for?
>
> How did I pay Verizon to screw up the Page Plus number porting?
You didn't pay them! You even told them that you won't pay them ever
again. You are no longer a VZW customer!
Think about it!
They will get it straightened out eventually but, since you are no
longer a customer, they will fix things at THEIR convenience!
On 1/23/2012 5:52 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>
>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>> not available.
>>>
>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>
>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>
>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>
>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>> what you don't pay for!
>
>
> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
> a Verizon problem.
If you had still been a VZW customer I think you would have received
better service.
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:49:46 -0500]:
> In article <jfgkvc$cj1$1@dont-email.me>, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Marketing can make people do stupid things--like buy the same service
>> > for much more money.
>>
>> If PP offered the same service, then they'd be worth a look
>
> For many many people, they *do* offer the same cell phone service.
Cell phone service has changed and includes data. so, I have to
disagree.
nobody@nada.com wrote on [Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:57:53 -0800]:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:52:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <5_GdnRFa-OaZ9obSnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> > Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>> > And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>> > getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>> >
>>> > Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>>
>>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>>> what you don't pay for!
>>
>>Unless you get FAR, FAR LESS than what you pay for--which is what
>>happened in this case, as Verizon dropped the ball and screwed up and
>>caused grief, all the while denying it.
>>
>>And then you DO get what you pay for in PagePlus Cellular.
>>
>>Huh. Go figure. Spending bunches of money with Big Corp gets you
>>screwed, not unlike gambling in a Mafia casino.
>
> The phone in question is my wife's. Her usage is minimal and no need
> for data. At Verizon, the cost of the lowest price plan is $40 a month
> plus texts at 20 cents each. For what she uses, I can get the same
> usage, with the Verizon prepaid network, for about $40 a year.
>
> There are people whose needs require plans like Verizon's. She's not
> one of them.
10 bucks a month is the cheapest a line costs on VZW
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:35:07 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>> a Verizon problem.
>
>If you had still been a VZW customer I think you would have received
>better service.
Well that's some real circular logic. If he'd still been a VZW
customer there wouldn't have been a need for the port.
"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message
news:rs0rh71lr77h14ttitrva2rphns2r9c52u@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:35:07 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>>> a Verizon problem.
>>
>>If you had still been a VZW customer I think you would have received
>>better service.
>
> Well that's some real circular logic. If he'd still been a VZW
> customer there wouldn't have been a need for the port.
Yeah; Richard is being more of a shill than is even usual for him...
"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message
news:fo0rh7hah4lbdvpqk0bbpfc0npfqgdk2et@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:29:04 +0000 (UTC), Justin
> <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>>nobody@nada.com wrote on [Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:57:53 -0800]:
>>
>>10 bucks a month is the cheapest a line costs on VZW
>
> What's that get you, a secondary LOS?
Yup; pretty sure you can't get a solo, stand-alone cell number on VZW for
$10.
My lightly-used PP cell service, with light data as needed, is costing me
under $10.
I was a VZW customer for many, many years. No longer. My exact same (from
my perception) service with VZW with the same phone and same number cost me
4/5/6/7/8-times more...
nobody@nada.com wrote on [Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:52:13 -0800]:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>
>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>> not available.
>>>
>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>
>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>
>>Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>
>>You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>>what you don't pay for!
>
>
> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
> a Verizon problem.
And Page Plus should have been on them to fix it, instead of giving
you the run around and have you contact verizon.
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:04:56 -0500]:
> In article <jfk47e$vnr$1@dont-email.me>, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>> > a Verizon problem.
>>
>> And Page Plus should have been on them to fix it, instead of giving
>> you the run around and have you contact verizon.
>
> NO other cell phone company can fix it when your provider doesn't
> release your number.
If that's the case then it should have been a matter of calling PP,
they start a 3 way call with VZW and speak the magic words with
the customer giving the authorisation right then and there.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:29:04 +0000 (UTC), Justin
<nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
>nobody@nada.com wrote on [Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:57:53 -0800]:
>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:52:58 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
>> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <5_GdnRFa-OaZ9obSnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>>> > And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>>> > getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>> >
>>>> > Any idea what is going on?
>>>>
>>>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>>>> what you don't pay for!
>>>
>>>Unless you get FAR, FAR LESS than what you pay for--which is what
>>>happened in this case, as Verizon dropped the ball and screwed up and
>>>caused grief, all the while denying it.
>>>
>>>And then you DO get what you pay for in PagePlus Cellular.
>>>
>>>Huh. Go figure. Spending bunches of money with Big Corp gets you
>>>screwed, not unlike gambling in a Mafia casino.
>>
>> The phone in question is my wife's. Her usage is minimal and no need
>> for data. At Verizon, the cost of the lowest price plan is $40 a month
>> plus texts at 20 cents each. For what she uses, I can get the same
>> usage, with the Verizon prepaid network, for about $40 a year.
>>
>> There are people whose needs require plans like Verizon's. She's not
>> one of them.
>
>10 bucks a month is the cheapest a line costs on VZW
Not according to verizon, unless you are adding a line to a family
plan. Otherwise it's substantially more. And that's still more the $40
a year.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:58:43 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <cteqh71331qamr90v47nhk0e54cq09nepe@4ax.com>,
> nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>> >> Any idea what is going on?
>> >
>> >Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>> >
>> >You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>> >what you don't pay for!
>>
>>
>> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>> a Verizon problem.
>
>Don't tell Richard or Janet.
>
>Well, you can't, anyway--not with their heads in the sand.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:35:07 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>On 1/23/2012 5:52 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>>> not available.
>>>>
>>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>>
>>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>>> what you don't pay for!
>>
>>
>> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>> a Verizon problem.
>
>If you had still been a VZW customer I think you would have received
>better service.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:35:07 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>On 1/23/2012 5:52 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:48:38 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
>> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2012 8:59 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2012 I ported a number from Verizon (on the same phone we used
>>>> on Verizon) to Page Plus. It all worked. We made the change for this
>>>> phone, my wife's, because she uses about 115 minutes a month.
>>>>
>>>> Now if you call the number, you get "welcome to verizon wireless". If
>>>> you try to call from the phone, you are informed that the service is
>>>> not available.
>>>>
>>>> Page Plus says it's a Verizon problem. Verizon says contact Page Plus.
>>>> And calling Page Plus results in being on hold 10-15 minutes and then
>>>> getting disconnected, until you finally get through
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what is going on?
>>>
>>> Well, now you know why Page Plus is cheaper.
>>>
>>> You generally get what you pay for!!!!!! And, of course, you don't get
>>> what you don't pay for!
>>
>>
>> Page Plus being cheaper didn't cause the problem. It turned out to be
>> a Verizon problem.
>
>If you had still been a VZW customer I think you would have received
>better service.
No, I would have gotten the same denial, just paid a lot more for
it. Your logic is stunningly bad.
Verizon screws up something they were supposed to do and it's my fault
for leaving them.
Page Plus fiasco 
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