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Old 08-25-2009, 08:02 PM
Steve Sobol
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In article <nfydnTUV5OkYzQ7XnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, rgilbert88
@comcast.net says...


> You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????


I sure as hell do.

If we stop flying, the terrorists have won.

I've flown several times since 9/11 with no problems.


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Old 08-25-2009, 09:05 PM
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <nfydnTUV5OkYzQ7XnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> rgilbert88 @comcast.net says...
>
>
>> You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????

>
> I sure as hell do.


More reasons(s

1. paying for people to be rude to you
2. crammed into a space too small for comfort
3. late
4. lost luggage

I stopped flying long before 9/11, if I can't drive, I don't need to be
there.




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Old 08-25-2009, 11:28 PM
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Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article <nfydnTUV5OkYzQ7XnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, rgilbert88
> @comcast.net says...
>
>
>> You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????

>
> I sure as hell do.
>
> If we stop flying, the terrorists have won.
>
> I've flown several times since 9/11 with no problems.
>
>


I can't say I care if the terrorists win or lose as long as I'm not one
of the casualties! Selfish of me but that's the way it is.

When the rules don't allow me to have even a pen knife or a pocket
screwdriver I feel that I'm at a severe disadvantage! The terrorists
somehow manage to make shoes out of "plastique", knives out of glass,
and God knows what else.

The last time I visited an airport I was able to recover the combination
of the lock on the boarding gate just by watching the pilot open the
door. Security was a joke!

I think it was just yesterday that I read in the paper that one of the
Lockerbie terrorists had been given a "compassionate release" because
his mother was dying or some such thing! The world is going to hell in
a handbasket!


It has been more than ten years since I've set foot in an aircraft.
I won't fly again without urgent necessity!

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Old 08-25-2009, 11:49 PM
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:44:36 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

>(PeteCresswell) wrote:
>> Per RepublicansDestroyAmerica:
>>> The airlines are working on a revenue model to allow cell phone use.
>>> Hopefully they'll charge so much that cell phones on planes will go
>>> the way of the Airfone service....

>>
>> Hopefully - or we'll have one more reason to avoid using air
>> travel.

>
>You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????


I keep waiting for Samuel L. Jackson to post saying "I'm tired of the
godamn cell phones and these godamn planes."

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Old 08-26-2009, 03:13 AM
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In article <Xns9C72852212E93xs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>,
xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com says...

> More reasons(s
>
> 1. paying for people to be rude to you
> 2. crammed into a space too small for comfort
> 3. late
> 4. lost luggage
>
> I stopped flying long before 9/11, if I can't drive, I don't need to be
> there.


Your mileage may vary. And apparently does.

I find 2 to be true, but I make do, and I still (in general) enjoy
flying.

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Old 08-26-2009, 03:14 AM
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In article <ka6dneMF6ZqG-wnXnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, rgilbert88
@comcast.net says...

> When the rules don't allow me to have even a pen knife or a pocket
> screwdriver I feel that I'm at a severe disadvantage! The terrorists
> somehow manage to make shoes out of "plastique", knives out of glass,
> and God knows what else.



For years, many, MANY other countries have had MUCH tighter airport
security than the U.S. But I will concede that the TSA has made some
stupid moves in the post-9/11 era.


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Old 08-26-2009, 05:32 AM
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Per Richard B. Gilbert:
>> Hopefully - or we'll have one more reason to avoid using air
>> travel.

>
>You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????


That one doesn't bother me.

I see it as a one-time exploitation of the system's and people's
assumption that any hijacker want's to live through the
experience.

Seems like that had a shelf life of about 45 minutes bc once the
people on the plane bound for the Pentagon caught on via cell
phone, it was all over for the hijack attempt.

There may well be subsequent attempts to use commercial aircraft
as missiles, but I don't see how they could involve conscious
passengers.

I can see a few scenarios that do not involve conscious
passengers... but I can also seem myself getting hit by a truck
driving to work....
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:25 PM
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Per Richard B. Gilbert:
>> Hopefully - or we'll have one more reason to avoid using air
>> travel.

>
>You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????


To me, 9/11 was a one-shot deal predicated on people's and the
system's assumption that hijackers want to survive the endeavor.

It had a life of less than 45 minutes as the passengers on the
plane headed for the Pentagon found out what was up.

Until somebody figures out how to disable all a plane's
passengers, I don't seen anything like it happening again.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:05 PM
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per Richard B. Gilbert:
>>> Hopefully - or we'll have one more reason to avoid using air
>>> travel.

>> You mean you need MORE reason than 9/11/2001?????????

>
> To me, 9/11 was a one-shot deal predicated on people's and the
> system's assumption that hijackers want to survive the endeavor.
>
> It had a life of less than 45 minutes as the passengers on the
> plane headed for the Pentagon found out what was up.
>
> Until somebody figures out how to disable all a plane's
> passengers, I don't seen anything like it happening again.


Today, you don't even get to carry a pen knife on board! The bad guys
seem to have no problem wearing shoes made of "plastique", knives made
of glass, etc, etc.

In the unlikely event that I need to travel somewhere, I'll take the
train, bus, or drive my own car.

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