Please respond with reasonable answers -- how I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.

Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
had to change the thread.

On Jul 19, 12:06 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...e614fe3?hl=en&
:

> Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> hath wroth:

> >On Jul 1, 7:24 am, shawn.cormi...@gmail.com wrote in
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...sg/696d6abf90c...

> >> how would u like to change the cell phone industry?

> >Digital cell phones should stop using the compression they use and
> >start using monaural WMA compression with a CBR of 20 kbps or less and
> >a sample rate of at least 44.1 KHz.

> Very roughly, the current 8Kbits/sec encoding rate,
> compared to your 44Kbit/sec, will only handle about 1/5th the number
> of users.

Who said anything about 44Kbit/sec?

The bit-rate of my WMA CBR is 20Kbit/sec or less.

> >1. In its uncompressed form, the audio must have a bit-resolution of
> >at least 16-bit

> The encoding resolution is not changed by compression. If you encode
> something with 16 bit resolution, and compress it, you still have 16
> bit data coming out. It's the data rate or thruput that changes with
> compression.

Okay.

> >2. The sample-rate of the compressed and the uncompressed version of
> >the audio must be the same.

> Not possible. If the rate in and rate out are identical, then there's
> no compression happening.

Yes it is possible and it is compression. The uncompressed audio is a
monaural linear PCM at 44.1-KHz-sample-rate with a 16-bit-resolution
-- this audio has a bit-rate of 705.6 kbps. The compressed audio is a
monaural CBR WMA at 44.1-KHz-sample-rate with a bit-rate of 20 kbps or
less.

Where/when is there any change in sample-rate?????????

There is definitely a change in bit-rate. However, that is totally
different from the sample-rate. Totally.

BIT-rate and SAMPLE-rate are two completely different things.

In linear PCM audio:

BIT-rate = SAMPLE-rate X bit-resolution X number of channels

Stereo has two channels. Mono has one channel.

44,100 Hz X 16-bit X 1 channel = 705,600 bps

No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
really interested in this.

"Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185054663.182239.188150@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.

Here is a reasonable answer, stop asking asinine questions.

If you want to "change" the digital cell phone industry,
I would suggest that posting to newsgroups is a pretty
pointless activiy. You should really be out raising lots and lots
of capital for your first takeover.

Bernard

> No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
> jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
> really interested in this.
>

Please restate the original question or questions for the rest of us

Radium wrote:
> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.

We will as soon as you ask a non-STUPID question.

You do that on purpose(crossposting and acting stupid) do you??

"Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.

And you are still a clueless idiot.

Charles wrote:
>
> > No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
> > jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
> > really interested in this.
> >
>
> Please restate the original question or questions for the rest of us


Stop feeding the damn trolls.


--
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prove it.
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Michael A. Terrell
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"Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Please respond with reasonable answers.

Please ask reasonable questions in the first place.

Bob M.

I would have the wireless phone do VOIP on universal wireless internet,
accessible everywhere.

I have felt that there should be provision in all future wireless base units
to relay the internet "cell" signal to other devices as a background
activity. This would expand the connectivity penetration.

By cell, I'm not referring to the existing cellular phone network.

Phones might also be relay points during calls, when they are using their
battery to transmit anyway.



"Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185054663.182239.188150@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.
>
> On Jul 19, 12:06 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...e614fe3?hl=en&
> :
>
>> Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
>> >On Jul 1, 7:24 am, shawn.cormi...@gmail.com wrote in
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...sg/696d6abf90c...
>
>> >> how would u like to change the cell phone industry?
>
>> >Digital cell phones should stop using the compression they use and
>> >start using monaural WMA compression with a CBR of 20 kbps or less and
>> >a sample rate of at least 44.1 KHz.
>
>> Very roughly, the current 8Kbits/sec encoding rate,
>> compared to your 44Kbit/sec, will only handle about 1/5th the number
>> of users.
>
> Who said anything about 44Kbit/sec?
>
> The bit-rate of my WMA CBR is 20Kbit/sec or less.
>
>> >1. In its uncompressed form, the audio must have a bit-resolution of
>> >at least 16-bit
>
>> The encoding resolution is not changed by compression. If you encode
>> something with 16 bit resolution, and compress it, you still have 16
>> bit data coming out. It's the data rate or thruput that changes with
>> compression.
>
> Okay.
>
>> >2. The sample-rate of the compressed and the uncompressed version of
>> >the audio must be the same.
>
>> Not possible. If the rate in and rate out are identical, then there's
>> no compression happening.
>
> Yes it is possible and it is compression. The uncompressed audio is a
> monaural linear PCM at 44.1-KHz-sample-rate with a 16-bit-resolution
> -- this audio has a bit-rate of 705.6 kbps. The compressed audio is a
> monaural CBR WMA at 44.1-KHz-sample-rate with a bit-rate of 20 kbps or
> less.
>
> Where/when is there any change in sample-rate?????????
>
> There is definitely a change in bit-rate. However, that is totally
> different from the sample-rate. Totally.
>
> BIT-rate and SAMPLE-rate are two completely different things.
>
> In linear PCM audio:
>
> BIT-rate = SAMPLE-rate X bit-resolution X number of channels
>
> Stereo has two channels. Mono has one channel.
>
> 44,100 Hz X 16-bit X 1 channel = 705,600 bps
>
> No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
> jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
> really interested in this.
>

"Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185054663.182239.188150@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.
> No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
> jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
> really interested in this.
>

**** YOU! "Radium"!!!!

Blithering/****ing idiot!

You are a uneducated troll....

I suggest people add "Radium" to their ignore (for ignorant) list.
You blabber on and on about nothing. No one is interested in your opinions.

Discover women or masturbation, stop playing on Usenet, we are not amused.

*Personally speaking, I don't care what you do or think you ***-licking
bottom feeder*.
I simply killfile "Radium" and all posts regarding you now. makes my reading
simple.

Porgy Tirebiter wrote:
> "Radium" <glucegen1@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1185054663.182239.188150@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
>> had to change the thread.
>> No offense but please respond with reasonable answers & keep out the
>> jokes, off-topic nonsense, taunts, insults, and trivializations. I am
>> really interested in this.
>>
>
> **** YOU! "Radium"!!!!
>
> Blithering/****ing idiot!
>
> You are a uneducated troll....
>
> I suggest people add "Radium" to their ignore (for ignorant) list.
> You blabber on and on about nothing. No one is interested in your opinions.
>
> Discover women or masturbation, stop playing on Usenet, we are not amused.
>
> *Personally speaking, I don't care what you do or think you ***-licking
> bottom feeder*.
> I simply killfile "Radium" and all posts regarding you now. makes my reading
> simple.
>
>

Thank you, Porgy, for the articulate and mature response!

On Jul 21, 4:51 pm, Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please respond with reasonable answers. This is the second time I've
> had to change the thread.

Reasonable answers are not possible because you didn't actually ask a
question. You stated that all digital cell phones should suddenly
switch to 20kbps CBR WMA instead of the (better, more efficient, more
optimized for voice) codecs they are already using.

If you have an actual question, please restate it in a new thread.