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Old 04-08-2007, 11:41 PM
Steven J. Sobol
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Default Re: Porting second (home) phone number to cell phone ?

In article <3oni13h6id91rdrhmi5f2pojmjjeruq3qi@4ax.com>, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:

>>I see Vonage, trying to justify the $25/month before the first phone call,
>>always bragging about 911 service. So what? It's no big deal, at all.

>
> Hmm, sounds like we have a Skype apologist here.


Now, in defense of Larry (how strange that sounds!) - if he's always
somewhere where he knows the emergency phone numbers, he's not going
to need 911. Fact is, however, many people do.

I don't necessarily need 911 at home -- I know Victorville's police
and fire number is 760/241-2911 (notice the last three digits!) - but
even then, I don't know if they'd get my address automatically. I'm
not sure how it works if you call the local emergency number directly,
instead of the 911 PSAP.

Personally, with children in the house, there's no way in hell I'd
want to be without 911...

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Old 04-08-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Porting second (home) phone number to cell phone ?

In article <slrnf1ivcp.mb9.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>, Steven J. Sobol wrote:

> I don't necessarily need 911 at home -- I know Victorville's police
> and fire number is 760/241-2911 (notice the last three digits!) - but


Oops! Police is 241-2911. Fire is 955-5227. Shows how much I remember

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Old 04-09-2007, 12:14 AM
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Steven J. Sobol wrote:

> Personally, with children in the house, there's no way in hell I'd
> want to be without 911...


What "they" should let you do, is to register your cell phone's primary
address into a database. If the E911 location system shows the location
as close to the address in the database, then they know where you are
calling from. With VOIP phones you should be able to register a primary
address as well.

A landline is pretty cheap, at least in California, for measured rate
service.


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Old 04-09-2007, 12:21 AM
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On 4/8/2007 12:37 PM, SMS wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>
>> Call 911 on your cellphone...everyone here has. You don't need TWO
>> 911 phones. Skype is programmed on my phones to call the cops DIRECT
>> on their

>
> The advantage of a landline is that the address is tied to the phone
> number, so you don't have to say anything to the dispatcher to let them
> know where you are. This is a big benefit in emergencies where you may
> not have the presence of mind to give your address, or it may be a child
> or elderly person calling.
>
> With Verizon and Sprint you're better off than with T-Mobile or
> Cingular, since the E911 system is more accurate in terms of
> positioning, but still not as good as with a landline.
>


I just checked VZNavigator on my VX8600. It differentiates my front
door, back door, and my shop at the back property line. Not quite as
accurate as my Magellan, but might save a minute or two in an emergency.

On second thought, maybe not. E911 system might only return the
address, which is wrong in the (VZ) database. 'Where am I' returns an
address four houses down from mine. Wonder how that can be corrected?

Obviously the db is using old(very) data. The VZW address lookup
returns not found.

As an afterthought I don't think it's old, just wrong. My house was
built in the late 50's.
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:32 AM
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:41:10 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>In article <3oni13h6id91rdrhmi5f2pojmjjeruq3qi@4ax.com>, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>
>>>I see Vonage, trying to justify the $25/month before the first phone call,
>>>always bragging about 911 service. So what? It's no big deal, at all.

>>
>> Hmm, sounds like we have a Skype apologist here.

>
>Now, in defense of Larry (how strange that sounds!) - if he's always
>somewhere where he knows the emergency phone numbers, he's not going
>to need 911. Fact is, however, many people do.
>
>I don't necessarily need 911 at home -- I know Victorville's police
>and fire number is 760/241-2911 (notice the last three digits!) - but
>even then, I don't know if they'd get my address automatically. I'm
>not sure how it works if you call the local emergency number directly,
>instead of the 911 PSAP.


Been there, done that, with many agencies. If they have CID, they get
that, but no more. The PSAP has the equipment that polls the phone
records for the address (called ALI, or Automatic Location
Identification). They *can* call the PSAP and get the info manually
(of course, it adds quite a bit to response times), but there's no
such animal for cellular E911.

>Personally, with children in the house, there's no way in hell I'd
>want to be without 911...


Nor I. Larry just needed to be called out for his apologist attitude
WRT Skype when he constantly calls people here "apologists" for VZW.


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