Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there
are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages
are used; how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded. Basically I
would like to know in laymen’s terms how all of this works so that I can
better understand the capabilities cell phones have now and what they may
have in the hands of a good programmer and of course the right hardware.
Here are some further questions:
1. Can the programming script be manipulated or tweaked to suit the user? For
example if I wanted my cell phone to perform alternative functions other than
the ones that are currently loaded, is it possible to do this?
2. Can the GPS module within the cell phone be used to perform other
functions other than what is loaded? For example: if I had a phone that had
GPS capability, but not for mapping or anything like that, could I change its
directive to allow me to use it as an actual GPS hand held or other things?
3. Can the phone be used to send out signals to other compatible devices in
order to control these other devices?
The main objective here is to determine ‘if the phones can be used for more
than they currently are and what it would take to do such things. Can the
phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your
computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
Any help would be appreciated – I’m sure I will have more questions once I
get some feedback.
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
"bookert1973" <u27072@uwe> wrote in news:66cb91729c310@uwe:
> Can the
> phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your
> computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
>
>
Only if we can figure out some way to METER any of these things you want to
do, on a pay-per-use basis to jack up cellphone profits and charge you out
the ass for them....like everything else it does, now.
You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do
you?! How absurd!.....
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
Larry wrote:
> "bookert1973" <u27072@uwe> wrote in news:66cb91729c310@uwe:
>
>
>>Can the
>>phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your
>>computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
>>
>>
>
>
> Only if we can figure out some way to METER any of these things you want to
> do, on a pay-per-use basis to jack up cellphone profits and charge you out
> the ass for them....like everything else it does, now.
>
Its not an unusual business model. Go to a restaurant, the entrees (the
thing everyone needs and wants) will be reasonably priced. The fancy
desserts and booze (unnecessary stuff like video clips and games) can be
had for a premium.
> You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do
> you?! How absurd!.....
>
Yea, pretty disgusting that a company would charge for bandwidth after
paying for the licenses and installing and maintaining all of the
equpment necessary to provide the service.
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
To answer your question "You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR
computer for free, do
you?!". No, not at all. The charging for alternative services for use on a
cell phone is one of the reasons for the query. I believe the future of the
devices is endless and determining exactly what the end result, at least for
the near future is what i'm trying to define.
Thanks for your response. If you have information on how the systems works, I
would also appreciate your input. I'm sure that 'some of the cell phone
service providers and the designers of the devices have brainstormed what the
possibilities are, but what if some of the alternative services could take
place on most or some of the current devices with software/ code changes
without changing hardware? I just don't know.
CAS
Larry wrote:
>> Can the
>> phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your
>> computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
>
>Only if we can figure out some way to METER any of these things you want to
>do, on a pay-per-use basis to jack up cellphone profits and charge you out
>the ass for them....like everything else it does, now.
>
>You don't expect to use OUR cellphone hooked to YOUR computer for free, do
>you?! How absurd!.....
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:Eq6dnUwdU_OiSYrYnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com :
> Yea, pretty disgusting that a company would charge for bandwidth after
> paying for the licenses and installing and maintaining all of the
> equpment necessary to provide the service.
>
No, my company shill, it's pretty disgusting the company would turn off the
functions, like Bluetooth (remember the lawsuits?) or in the case of the
goddamned Aircard software, the laptop's ETHERNET PORT trying to force the
customer into using the "system", not his DIRECT CONNECTION to his computer
to download his pictures/files/emails/etc.
That's what's disgusting.....
The Ethernet port on an Aircarded laptop is NOT Verizon (or any of the rest
of them's) property. No "workaround" of the company's hijacking software
should be necessary, at all....
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
Finding the keyboard operational
bookert1973 entered:
> I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally);
> how there are created and what software programs are used; what
> programming languages are used; how the completed programs are loaded
> and unloaded. Basically I would like to know in laymen’s terms how
> all of this works so that I can better understand the capabilities
> cell phones have now and what they may have in the hands of a good
> programmer and of course the right hardware.
>
> Here are some further questions:
>
> 1. Can the programming script be manipulated or tweaked to suit the
> user? For example if I wanted my cell phone to perform alternative
> functions other than the ones that are currently loaded, is it
> possible to do this?
> 2. Can the GPS module within the cell phone be used to perform other
> functions other than what is loaded? For example: if I had a phone
> that had GPS capability, but not for mapping or anything like that,
> could I change its directive to allow me to use it as an actual GPS
> hand held or other things?
> 3. Can the phone be used to send out signals to other compatible
> devices in order to control these other devices?
>
> The main objective here is to determine ‘if the phones can be used
> for more than they currently are and what it would take to do such
> things. Can the phone be programmed to control household appliances
> or connect to your computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
>
> Any help would be appreciated – I’m sure I will have more questions
> once I get some feedback.
>
> Thanks
My knowledge is from the hardware side but I did hang out with the software
folks.
In reverse order:
3. Yes - In fact there are ways to control a cell site from a phone.
2. Theoretically yes. - You are not going to be able to do it without a bit
of expensive equipment and a lot of programing knowledge.
1a Yes. and often different carriers get different functions on the same
guts. Slap a different case on it with a different model number and you've
got a new phone.
1b. No unfortunatly. Even with the programmer and a password, one little
mistake and you have a door stop.
Bob
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Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
In article <66cb91729c310@uwe>, bookert1973 took the hamburger meat,
threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...
> I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there
> are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages
> are used;
All the BREW apps use Qualcomm's APIs which use C/C++. I don't know
what Verizon uses for its interface, probably Java.
> how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded. Basically I
> would like to know in laymen’s terms how all of this works so that I can
> better understand the capabilities cell phones have now and what they may
> have in the hands of a good programmer and of course the right hardware.
>
> Here are some further questions:
>
> 1. Can the programming script be manipulated or tweaked to suit the user? For
> example if I wanted my cell phone to perform alternative functions other than
> the ones that are currently loaded, is it possible to do this?
> 2. Can the GPS module within the cell phone be used to perform other
> functions other than what is loaded? For example: if I had a phone that had
> GPS capability, but not for mapping or anything like that, could I change its
> directive to allow me to use it as an actual GPS hand held or other things?
> 3. Can the phone be used to send out signals to other compatible devices in
> order to control these other devices?
>
> The main objective here is to determine ‘if the phones can be used for more
> than they currently are and what it would take to do such things. Can the
> phone be programmed to control household appliances or connect to your
> computer if the structure was there to allow it to?
>
> Any help would be appreciated – I’m sure I will have more questions once I
> get some feedback.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
This was covered before and multiple times at that.
BTW, I'm not a big fan of Smith Micro's VZW Access Manager
myself, but false info is still false info...
Specifically, VZW Access manager does NOT disable a machine's
Ethernet port. The IT boys would raise holy hell if it did. And, I also
know of many multiple corporations that use VZW EVDO cards for their
mobile users and all users just 'plug in' when in the office, with NO problems.
In fact, this laptop I'm typing on is one of them. Simple and easy using both.
card when out and about, Ethernet when available. I and MANY others do it
on a daily basis with NO problems. Ethernet port works just fine, thank you!!
So, again Larry my friend, you are disseminating simply false info. Your
experience isn't any where near the norm. Another one of you "gross
generalizations. Maybe you had problems when "installing for a friend".
I'd be inclined to lean towards 'operator error' vs the program causing issues.
Or, a bad setting somewhere in the IP Sec, DHCP or VPN...
Again, just to be sure you get it.....
IT departments of many major corporations wouldn't tolerate this for a second.
And they don't have to, because your below 'info' is patently false.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9849A8764938Dnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> No, my company shill, it's pretty disgusting the company would turn off the
> functions, like Bluetooth (remember the lawsuits?) or in the case of the
> goddamned Aircard software, the laptop's ETHERNET PORT trying to force the
> customer into using the "system", not his DIRECT CONNECTION to his computer
> to download his pictures/files/emails/etc.
>
> That's what's disgusting.....
>
> The Ethernet port on an Aircarded laptop is NOT Verizon (or any of the rest
> of them's) property. No "workaround" of the company's hijacking software
> should be necessary, at all...
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
"bookert1973 via CellPhoneKB.com" <u27072@uwe> wrote in
news:66d215bb8d5ff@uwe:
> I believe the future of the
> devices is endless and determining exactly what the end result, at
> least for the near future is what i'm trying to define.
>
The other services, like the basic phone service, is mediocre at best.
They don't have the bandwidth, especially in cities, for "endless" uses and
the FCC hasn't given them more to become TV broadcasters, for instance.
I chuckle every time I see some idiot trying to watch the BIG Game on a
screen only a little bigger than his thumb. I was sitting in a restaurant
watching the BBC Game-of-the-day (soccer) someone had uploaded in Divx from
high definition TV on alt.binaries.multimedia.sports and one of the
cellphone TV viewers looked at the "big" 15.4" widescreend on my Gateway
laptop. "Man, look how clear that looks!", he exclaimed to his mate.
"It's hidef TV from BBC.", I told him. "I get it on my Verizon Wireless
aircard.", I lied through my teeth...(c;
If he was that stupid, he deserves it....(c;
--
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You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
Thanks to everyone for your help. I recently found out that an Engineering
associate of mine has experience with this technology and has lots of
information on the subject.
I appreciate your comments.
CAS
trippy wrote:
>> I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work (fundamentally); how there
>> are created and what software programs are used; what programming languages
>> are used;
>
>All the BREW apps use Qualcomm's APIs which use C/C++. I don't know
>what Verizon uses for its interface, probably Java.
>
>> how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded. Basically I
>> would like to know in laymen’s terms how all of this works so that I can
>[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>
>> Thanks
>
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
Gee, you mean Larry didn't answer all your questions?
-Quick
bookert1973 via CellPhoneKB.com wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for your help. I recently found out
> that an Engineering associate of mine has experience with
> this technology and has lots of information on the
> subject.
>
> I appreciate your comments.
>
> CAS
>
> trippy wrote:
>>> I am trying to learn how cell phone programs work
>>> (fundamentally); how there are created and what
>>> software programs are used; what programming languages
>>> are used;
>>
>> All the BREW apps use Qualcomm's APIs which use C/C++. I
>> don't know what Verizon uses for its interface, probably
>> Java.
>>
>>> how the completed programs are loaded and unloaded.
>>> Basically I
>>> would like to know in laymen?Ts terms how all of this
>>> works so that I can
>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>>
>>> Thanks
Re: Programming Language and how cell phone scripts work?
Finding the keyboard operational
Larry entered:
> "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
> news:7XKSg.9423$6S3.678 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
>
>> Gee, you mean Larry didn't answer all your questions?
>>
>> -Quick
>>
>
> Mawnin' Quicky. Pull up your pants and cover your asshole. Man that
> stinks!
You see Larry, that's why I can't take you seriously.
BTW how's your lawyer?
Bob
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