I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
I am going o a trip to a part of Europe where the per minute charge for
using my Global phone is huge ($5/minute, $4 with extra $5/mo)
I will have WiFi available and a netbook as well as a WiFi enabled
Android phone to read voice mail coming to my phone as text.
If this will work, I would very, very much appreciate a tutorial on how
to set up the phone for Google Mail and how to set up Google Mail to
send text to my netbook.
I just know there are heroes out there who can help me.
On 6/3/2011 11:20 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>
> I am going o a trip to a part of Europe where the per minute charge for
> using my Global phone is huge ($5/minute, $4 with extra $5/mo)
>
> I will have WiFi available and a netbook as well as a WiFi enabled
> Android phone to read voice mail coming to my phone as text.
>
> If this will work, I would very, very much appreciate a tutorial on how
> to set up the phone for Google Mail and how to set up Google Mail to
> send text to my netbook.
>
> I just know there are heroes out there who can help me.
I think that you meant that you want to set up Google Voice to send text
to the netbook, not Google Mail.
This is under <https://www.google.com/voice#voicemailsettings> when you
are logged in to your Google account.
You probably will want to listen to the voice mail on the netbook or
Wi-Fi Android phone, not use the speech to text transcription e-mail.
The speech to text conversion is very poor to the point of being very
amusing, though you at least see where the call came from.
There is a gmail app for Android or you can just browse to gmail.com
(download the Opera browser, it's much better).
In Russia, you really want to use an unlocked GSM phone and a prepaid
SIM card. I think that Verizon will unlock the GSM section of the global
phones, or you can have it done by a third party service.
Some SIM cards:
i.e. <http://www.valuesphere.com/intouchsmartcards/russia.html> or
<http://www.valuesphere.com/intouchsmartcards/russia_travel_sim.html>.
Keep the GSM section of the phone turned off or remove the SIM card if
you're roaming on Verizon.
I guess if you're on an organized tour you won't need to make many calls
from the phone, but when I travel it's not on tours and the cell phone
is very useful for making arrangements.
Jumping in here like I was an expert Grin
Why not check and see what Skye would cost. That is what I used when I went
out of the US
"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4de92604$0$511$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb .com...
>I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>
Janet Wilder wrote:
> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>
> I am going o a trip to a part of Europe where the per minute charge
> for using my Global phone is huge ($5/minute, $4 with extra $5/mo)
>
> I will have WiFi available and a netbook as well as a WiFi enabled
> Android phone to read voice mail coming to my phone as text.
>
> If this will work, I would very, very much appreciate a tutorial on
> how to set up the phone for Google Mail and how to set up Google Mail
> to send text to my netbook.
>
> I just know there are heroes out there who can help me.
A good friend travels all over the world doing something similar to what you
describe using Skype. http://www.skype.com/intl/en/prices/pay-monthly
He called me skype a couple of weeks ago from Lima Peru and sounded like he
was next door. He wanted me to get a message to someone who had left a
message on his home phone that he retrieved with Skype because he didn't
have their home number with him.
"anne watson" <anneb3@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:vcidnSAHBsQv1nTQnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@earthlink.com:
> Jumping in here like I was an expert Grin
> Why not check and see what Skye would cost. That is what I used when
> I went out of the US
> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4de92604$0$511$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb .com...
>>I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>
>
>
If you put all the people you want to talk to across the planet on a free
Skype account, all calls in an out of that netbook on wifi will be free.
You can even do video and conferencing to everyone at once. Skype is the
way to go and amazingly simple to install and operate. If you MUST call
phones in most civilized countries, it's about 3-4c/minute.
http://www.skype.com/
downloads and installs free. Skype SMSs its app to your phone over data.
Only needs a mic and speakers but the webcam on the netbook is very
useful...good enough for broadcasting on Aljazeera almost every day from
the war zones.
On 6/3/2011 3:38 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 11:20 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>> I am going o a trip to a part of Europe where the per minute charge for
>> using my Global phone is huge ($5/minute, $4 with extra $5/mo)
>>
>> I will have WiFi available and a netbook as well as a WiFi enabled
>> Android phone to read voice mail coming to my phone as text.
>>
>> If this will work, I would very, very much appreciate a tutorial on how
>> to set up the phone for Google Mail and how to set up Google Mail to
>> send text to my netbook.
>>
>> I just know there are heroes out there who can help me.
>
> I think that you meant that you want to set up Google Voice to send text
> to the netbook, not Google Mail.
However it gets to the netbook so I can read it there, yes.
>
> This is under <https://www.google.com/voice#voicemailsettings> when you
> are logged in to your Google account.
>
> You probably will want to listen to the voice mail on the netbook or
> Wi-Fi Android phone, not use the speech to text transcription e-mail.
> The speech to text conversion is very poor to the point of being very
> amusing, though you at least see where the call came from.
I will not have a fast enough WiFi connection on this trip for voice on
the netbook. I will have to be satisfied with text. I really am not
expecting calls. It would just be to screen who is calling without
burning cell minutes. If the call requires an answer, like the neighbor
who is watching the house and the dog, then I can call on the global phone.
> There is a gmail app for Android or you can just browse to gmail.com
> (download the Opera browser, it's much better).
I'm not turning on the Android in Russia. I am aware of the app, but
wasn't sure I needed it.
I want calls to the Android phone to go to Google Mail then to text on
the netbook.
> In Russia, you really want to use an unlocked GSM phone and a prepaid
> SIM card. I think that Verizon will unlock the GSM section of the global
> phones, or you can have it done by a third party service.
>
> Some SIM cards:
> i.e. <http://www.valuesphere.com/intouchsmartcards/russia.html> or
> <http://www.valuesphere.com/intouchsmartcards/russia_travel_sim.html>.
Thanks. I have a Moto Global with VZW. It has worked very well for me
in GSM-land before. If I make and receive no calls, which I sincerely
hope is the case, it costs me nothing.
> Keep the GSM section of the phone turned off or remove the SIM card if
> you're roaming on Verizon.
Won't be. There is no CDMA in the part of Russia I'm going.
>
> I guess if you're on an organized tour you won't need to make many calls
> from the phone, but when I travel it's not on tours and the cell phone
> is very useful for making arrangements.
Hopefully, there will be no reason to make calls.
Thanks for your help.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
On 6/3/2011 4:01 PM, anne watson wrote:
> Jumping in here like I was an expert Grin
> Why not check and see what Skye would cost. That is what I used when I went
> out of the US
> "Janet Wilder"<kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4de92604$0$511$c3e8da3$76a7c58f@news.astraweb .com...
>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>
>
I already have Skype. The problem is that I'll be on a river boat and
the WiFi is slow (via satellite) so VOIP will not be viable. Thanks anyway.
On 6/3/2011 4:37 PM, Tom J wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>> I am going o a trip to a part of Europe where the per minute charge
>> for using my Global phone is huge ($5/minute, $4 with extra $5/mo)
>>
>> I will have WiFi available and a netbook as well as a WiFi enabled
>> Android phone to read voice mail coming to my phone as text.
>>
>> If this will work, I would very, very much appreciate a tutorial on
>> how to set up the phone for Google Mail and how to set up Google Mail
>> to send text to my netbook.
>>
>> I just know there are heroes out there who can help me.
>
> A good friend travels all over the world doing something similar to what you
> describe using Skype.
> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/prices/pay-monthly
> He called me skype a couple of weeks ago from Lima Peru and sounded like he
> was next door. He wanted me to get a message to someone who had left a
> message on his home phone that he retrieved with Skype because he didn't
> have their home number with him.
The WiFi that will be available will be satellite and shared with a lot
of people. VOIP, if not blocked as the cruise ships do it, will be too
slow for Skype. Thanks anyway.
On 6/3/2011 2:01 PM, anne watson wrote:
> Jumping in here like I was an expert Grin
> Why not check and see what Skye would cost. That is what I used when I went
> out of the US
I think the original poster's goal is to forward one or more phone
number(s) to a Google Voice number (or give out the Google Voice number
to friends and relatives) and have callers leave voice mail messages
that can later be retrieved on a computer or smart phone on Wi-Fi, with
calls returned via a computer or smart phone over Wi-Fi using Google Voice.
An incoming phone number on Google Voice is free, so anyone, even
non-Skype subscribers can call you, and multiple phone numbers can be
forwarded to the Google Voice number. Skype offers incoming phone
numbers but they charge $6 per month for this service.
There is really no need for Skype with Google Voice other than perhaps
for free Skype to Skype. Maybe Microsoft is going to change Skype to be
a Google Voice competitor but it's not there yet.
There is a service for free incoming calls at www.ring2skype.com which
is clever, it uses access numbers in many countries with "extensions"
that you dial to direct the call to your Skype name.
> I want calls to the Android phone to go to Google Mail then to text on
> the netbook.
What you want to do is set up "forward" or "forward on no answer" on the
Android phone and forward the calls to your Google Voice number which
will dump the caller into Google Voice Voice mail which you will set up
to send e-mails with transcriptions of the message.
Note that if you want to listen to the actual message, it's _not_ VOIP,
it's like downloading and playing a very small audio file, so slow
internet service on the ship is not going to really matter for listening
to messages that have been left. If you're paying for shipboard Wi-Fi is
it pay as you go, or unlimited?
Forward on no answer
--------------------
<http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/no_answer_transfer.html>
Remember to do this prior to leaving since you have to be in Verizon
native territory for this service to be activated.
It's actually unclear from that description if this service works if the
phone is turned off. Call and ask if it still forwards if the phone is
off, or better yet just try it out now.
Unconditional Forwarding
------------------------
There is also plain call forwarding available, which may be what you
really want for this trip. It forwards whether the phone is on or off,
and you must activate and deactivate it while in Verizon territory.
I went to Russia in 1993. We tried to make some landline phone calls
back to the U.S.. What a joke. You called the operator and gave them the
phone number to call, then they called you back, often hours later. The
connection quality was horrible. The only real way to make calls was to
find a phone that could call the AT&T network access number.
On 6/3/2011 6:12 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 3:30 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> I want calls to the Android phone to go to Google Mail then to text on
>> the netbook.
>
> What you want to do is set up "forward" or "forward on no answer" on the
> Android phone and forward the calls to your Google Voice number which
> will dump the caller into Google Voice Voice mail which you will set up
> to send e-mails with transcriptions of the message.
That is what I thought I should do.
>
> Note that if you want to listen to the actual message, it's _not_ VOIP,
> it's like downloading and playing a very small audio file, so slow
> internet service on the ship is not going to really matter for listening
> to messages that have been left. If you're paying for shipboard Wi-Fi is
> it pay as you go, or unlimited?
That is good to know. This is a river barge cruise. The WiFi is
supposed to be free, but it's in Russia where the rules are different so
there may be a charge. If I'm paying, the text will work best.
>
> Forward on no answer
> --------------------
> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/no_answer_transfer.html>
>
>
> Remember to do this prior to leaving since you have to be in Verizon
> native territory for this service to be activated.
>
> It's actually unclear from that description if this service works if the
> phone is turned off. Call and ask if it still forwards if the phone is
> off, or better yet just try it out now.
>
>
> Unconditional Forwarding
> ------------------------
> There is also plain call forwarding available, which may be what you
> really want for this trip. It forwards whether the phone is on or off,
> and you must activate and deactivate it while in Verizon territory.
>
> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
This is what I want to do. I don't want any voice mail on the phone as I
won't be able to access it. I do believe I can turn the phone off for
it to work.
>
> I went to Russia in 1993. We tried to make some landline phone calls
> back to the U.S.. What a joke. You called the operator and gave them the
> phone number to call, then they called you back, often hours later. The
> connection quality was horrible. The only real way to make calls was to
> find a phone that could call the AT&T network access number.
I imagine things are better now. We will be sailing from Moscow to St.
Petersburg so there should be towers available, but I do not intend to
make any calls unless there is an emergency.
I am using my DH's basic, no-frills phone as the number for the global.
There is no texting on that number. No camera or other data. Just talk
in and talk out.
With the rumors of VZW getting rid of their unlimited data plans, there
is no way in he** I will make any changes to the service on my Droid at
this point in time.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
>> Unconditional Forwarding
>> ------------------------
>> There is also plain call forwarding available, which may be what you
>> really want for this trip. It forwards whether the phone is on or off,
>> and you must activate and deactivate it while in Verizon territory.
>>
>> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
>>
>
> This is what I want to do. I don't want any voice mail on the phone as I
> won't be able to access it. I do believe I can turn the phone off for it
> to work.
Yes, the unconditional forwarding to Google Voice will work. The other
forwarding, call forward on busy/no answer, information seems to imply
that it only works if the phone is within Verizon territory and is
turned on, but it may just be poorly written information and no one you
call at Verizon would be likely to know the answer.
Of course you may want to give out your Google Voice number and e-mail
address to as many people as possible, to eliminate the Verizon
intermediary when possible.
> I imagine things are better now. We will be sailing from Moscow to St.
> Petersburg so there should be towers available, but I do not intend to
> make any calls unless there is an emergency.
Ah, the "Route of the Czars." Personally, I rode a bicycle from Moscow
to Saint Petersburg on our zero star tour of Russia. There should be
plenty of pay phones in the cities you stop in if you need to make any
calls using AT&T Direct.
> With the rumors of VZW getting rid of their unlimited data plans, there
> is no way in he** I will make any changes to the service on my Droid at
> this point in time.
Per Janet Wilder:
>
>I already have Skype. The problem is that I'll be on a river boat and
>the WiFi is slow (via satellite) so VOIP will not be viable. Thanks anyway.
Also, on my little Atom-powered netbook at least, Skype started
throwing a "Not enough CPU power to run Skype" dialog and can no
longer be used on it. Dunno what version it started with but
it's there.
OTOH, I've got Skype on my iTouch - no problems.
--
PeteCresswell
On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>
> at http://voice.google.com
>
> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
> to your name)
>
>
> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
> on your phone
>
> follow the prompts...
Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
Voice account.
On 6/3/2011 7:11 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 4:44 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> Unconditional Forwarding
>>> ------------------------
>>> There is also plain call forwarding available, which may be what you
>>> really want for this trip. It forwards whether the phone is on or off,
>>> and you must activate and deactivate it while in Verizon territory.
>>>
>>> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This is what I want to do. I don't want any voice mail on the phone as I
>> won't be able to access it. I do believe I can turn the phone off for it
>> to work.
>
> Yes, the unconditional forwarding to Google Voice will work. The other
> forwarding, call forward on busy/no answer, information seems to imply
> that it only works if the phone is within Verizon territory and is
> turned on, but it may just be poorly written information and no one you
> call at Verizon would be likely to know the answer.
>
> Of course you may want to give out your Google Voice number and e-mail
> address to as many people as possible, to eliminate the Verizon
> intermediary when possible.
>
>> I imagine things are better now. We will be sailing from Moscow to St.
>> Petersburg so there should be towers available, but I do not intend to
>> make any calls unless there is an emergency.
>
> Ah, the "Route of the Czars." Personally, I rode a bicycle from Moscow
> to Saint Petersburg on our zero star tour of Russia. There should be
> plenty of pay phones in the cities you stop in if you need to make any
> calls using AT&T Direct.
>
>> With the rumors of VZW getting rid of their unlimited data plans, there
>> is no way in he** I will make any changes to the service on my Droid at
>> this point in time.
>
> How much data per month do you use?
Not very much, but I like have unlimited plans just in case I decide to
use more
On 6/3/2011 9:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>> at http://voice.google.com
>>
>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>> to your name)
>>
>>
>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>> on your phone
>>
>> follow the prompts...
>
>
> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
> It will not let me change the number.
Huh? What do you mean "I used my home phone?"
When I got Google Voice they gave me a phone number. If someone calls
the Google Voice number it rings my home phone number and all of my cell
phones at the same time. I can add or delete the phones that it calls.
But none of that matters anyway for what you're trying to do.
Since you're on Verizon, to turn on forwarding you dial *72 then the 10
digit Google Voice number, and press send.
To turn off forwarding you dial *73 then the 10 digit Google Voice
number, and press send.
There should be nothing to change in Google Voice.
Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:38:00 -0500]:
> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>
>> at http://voice.google.com
>>
>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>> to your name)
>>
>>
>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>> on your phone
>>
>> follow the prompts...
>
>
> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
> It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
> system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
> someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
> Voice account.
You should be able to add the cell phone to it.
At the bottom of the phone number list should be an "Add another Phone" link
On 6/4/2011 1:13 AM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 9:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>>
>>> at http://voice.google.com
>>>
>>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>>> to your name)
>>>
>>>
>>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>>> on your phone
>>>
>>> follow the prompts...
>>
>>
>> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
>> It will not let me change the number.
>
> Huh? What do you mean "I used my home phone?"
>
> When I got Google Voice they gave me a phone number. If someone calls
> the Google Voice number it rings my home phone number and all of my cell
> phones at the same time. I can add or delete the phones that it calls.
> But none of that matters anyway for what you're trying to do.
>
> Since you're on Verizon, to turn on forwarding you dial *72 then the 10
> digit Google Voice number, and press send.
>
> To turn off forwarding you dial *73 then the 10 digit Google Voice
> number, and press send.
>
> There should be nothing to change in Google Voice.
Okay. Thanks.
If I call the Google Voice number, my home phone rings. That's why I
thought it went to my home phone.
On 6/4/2011 10:00 AM, Justin wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:38:00 -0500]:
>> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>>
>>> at http://voice.google.com
>>>
>>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>>> to your name)
>>>
>>>
>>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>>> on your phone
>>>
>>> follow the prompts...
>>
>>
>> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
>> It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
>> system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
>> someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
>> Voice account.
>
> You should be able to add the cell phone to it.
>
> At the bottom of the phone number list should be an "Add another Phone" link
Thank you! I had missed that. It worked. I unchecked the home phone
and now the cell is linked to Google Voice. I will forward the house
phone to the cell phone and the cell phone to Google Voice. I hope it
works.
> Okay. Thanks.
>
> If I call the Google Voice number, my home phone rings. That's why I
I think you'll want to add your cell phone number as one of the phone
numbers on the Google Voice account to get Google Voice Mail to operate
optimally. If someone calls your cell phone, and it is forwarded to
Google Voice, then Google Voice will recognize the cell phone number as
yours and immediately send the call to Google voice mail (as opposed to
ringing your home phone then when no one answers going to Google Voice
mail).
If you don't add your cell phone number to your Google Voice account
then when the cell phone is forwarded to Google Voice your home phone
will ring, and the call won't go to voice mail until no one answers the
home phone. It'll still probably work, but it'll make the caller wait
longer.
See: <http://i56.tinypic.com/157ou1y.jpg> for how to add more phone numbers.
On 6/4/2011 8:39 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 6/4/2011 10:00 AM, Justin wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:38:00 -0500]:
>>> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>>>
>>>> at http://voice.google.com
>>>>
>>>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>>>> to your name)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>>>> on your phone
>>>>
>>>> follow the prompts...
>>>
>>>
>>> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
>>> It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
>>> system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
>>> someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
>>> Voice account.
>>
>> You should be able to add the cell phone to it.
>>
>> At the bottom of the phone number list should be an "Add another
>> Phone" link
>
> Thank you! I had missed that. It worked. I unchecked the home phone and
> now the cell is linked to Google Voice. I will forward the house phone
> to the cell phone and the cell phone to Google Voice. I hope it works.
I think it may be better to forward both the home phone and the cell
phone directly to Google Voice unless there is some reason that you want
all the home phone calls to call the cell phone before being sent to
Google Voice mail.
Janet Wilder wrote on [Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:39:12 -0500]:
> On 6/4/2011 10:00 AM, Justin wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:38:00 -0500]:
>>> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>>>
>>>> at http://voice.google.com
>>>>
>>>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>>>> to your name)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>>>> on your phone
>>>>
>>>> follow the prompts...
>>>
>>>
>>> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
>>> It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
>>> system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
>>> someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
>>> Voice account.
>>
>> You should be able to add the cell phone to it.
>>
>> At the bottom of the phone number list should be an "Add another Phone" link
>
> Thank you! I had missed that. It worked. I unchecked the home phone
> and now the cell is linked to Google Voice. I will forward the house
> phone to the cell phone and the cell phone to Google Voice. I hope it
> works.
You can have it ring at both places at the same time.
I have it set to ring my home, cell and work numbers all at the same
time.
Whichever one answers is the winner and the rest stop ringing.
On 6/4/2011 11:42 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/4/2011 8:39 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 6/4/2011 10:00 AM, Justin wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:38:00 -0500]:
>>>> On 6/3/2011 9:27 PM, Justin wrote:
>>>>> Janet Wilder wrote on [Fri, 03 Jun 2011 13:20:53 -0500]:
>>>>>> I have a never used but set up Google Voice number.
>>>>>
>>>>> at http://voice.google.com
>>>>>
>>>>> go to voice settings, (click on the cogged wheel top right corner next
>>>>> to your name)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> next to your cell number should be a link to activate google voicemail
>>>>> on your phone
>>>>>
>>>>> follow the prompts...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ages ago when I set up the Google Voice account, I used my home phone.
>>>> It will not let me change the number. I get an error message about a
>>>> system error. I will have to forward the cell to the house phone unless
>>>> someone can advise me on how to change the phone number in the Google
>>>> Voice account.
>>>
>>> You should be able to add the cell phone to it.
>>>
>>> At the bottom of the phone number list should be an "Add another
>>> Phone" link
>>
>> Thank you! I had missed that. It worked. I unchecked the home phone and
>> now the cell is linked to Google Voice. I will forward the house phone
>> to the cell phone and the cell phone to Google Voice. I hope it works.
>
> I think it may be better to forward both the home phone and the cell
> phone directly to Google Voice unless there is some reason that you want
> all the home phone calls to call the cell phone before being sent to
> Google Voice mail.
>
>>
>
I'll have to see if it will allow me to check box two phones.
> I'll have to see if it will allow me to check box two phones.
No, you don't want to check multiple phones (or any phones for that matter).
The check mark is _solely_ for which phones you want to ring when
someone calls your Google Voice number, _not_ which phones you want the
Google Voice mail system to pick up. You don't want _any_ phones to
ring, you want the forwarded calls to Google Voice to go straight to
Google Voice voice mail. So you want to NOT check any phones.
I tried this all out. If I call my cell phone number (which is forwarded
to Google Voice), and the cell phone is on, first the cell phone rings,
then if I don't pick it up the call forwards to Google Voice which rings
other phones that I have checked, then if I don't answer those phones
the call goes to voice mail This all takes _WAY_ too long.
If I turn off the cell phone, and I uncheck all the phones on Google
Voice, then the call goes _immediately_ to Google Voice voice mail
(pretty sure that's what you want to do).
I was wrong about one thing. Just because Google Voice recognizes a call
as being from a phone (or forwarded from a phone) on your Google Voice
account, that does NOT stop it from ringing other checked phones, which
makes sense when you thing about it (you may have given one phone on
your Google Voice account to someone else to use, and that person is
calling your Google Voice number and you want to be able to pick up the
call).
So the bottom line is this:
1. You want to uncheck all phones on Google Voice, so forwarded incoming
calls from your cell phone or home phone go _straight_ to Google Voice
voice mail, _without_ trying to ring any phones on your account.
2. If you're using "No Answer/Busy Transfer"
<http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/no_answer_transfer.html>
then you want your cell phone(s) turned off (which, when receiving
incoming calls from third parties, will eliminate your cell phone
ringing before forwarding the call to Google Voice). If you're using
unconditional forwarding
<http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
then it doesn't matter if the cell phone is on or off, it won't ring.
3. On AT&T landlines when you activate call forwarding it's
"unconditional forwarding" (you get no chance to answer) it'll go
straight to Google Voice and since you'll have no phones checked on
Google Voice then Google Voice will not try to ring any phones but will
send the call straight to voice mail. Unfortunately,my landline provider
(Sonic.net) doesn't offer call forwarding so I can't do what you're
doing with the home phone.
On 6/5/2011 4:34 PM, SMS wrote:
> On 6/5/2011 1:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I'll have to see if it will allow me to check box two phones.
>
> No, you don't want to check multiple phones (or any phones for that
> matter).
>
> The check mark is _solely_ for which phones you want to ring when
> someone calls your Google Voice number, _not_ which phones you want the
> Google Voice mail system to pick up. You don't want _any_ phones to
> ring, you want the forwarded calls to Google Voice to go straight to
> Google Voice voice mail. So you want to NOT check any phones.
>
> I tried this all out. If I call my cell phone number (which is forwarded
> to Google Voice), and the cell phone is on, first the cell phone rings,
> then if I don't pick it up the call forwards to Google Voice which rings
> other phones that I have checked, then if I don't answer those phones
> the call goes to voice mail This all takes _WAY_ too long.
>
> If I turn off the cell phone, and I uncheck all the phones on Google
> Voice, then the call goes _immediately_ to Google Voice voice mail
> (pretty sure that's what you want to do).
>
> I was wrong about one thing. Just because Google Voice recognizes a call
> as being from a phone (or forwarded from a phone) on your Google Voice
> account, that does NOT stop it from ringing other checked phones, which
> makes sense when you thing about it (you may have given one phone on
> your Google Voice account to someone else to use, and that person is
> calling your Google Voice number and you want to be able to pick up the
> call).
>
> So the bottom line is this:
>
> 1. You want to uncheck all phones on Google Voice, so forwarded incoming
> calls from your cell phone or home phone go _straight_ to Google Voice
> voice mail, _without_ trying to ring any phones on your account.
>
> 2. If you're using "No Answer/Busy Transfer"
> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/no_answer_transfer.html>
> then you want your cell phone(s) turned off (which, when receiving
> incoming calls from third parties, will eliminate your cell phone
> ringing before forwarding the call to Google Voice). If you're using
> unconditional forwarding
> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
> then it doesn't matter if the cell phone is on or off, it won't ring.
I have it set up for "unconditional forwarding"
>
> 3. On AT&T landlines when you activate call forwarding it's
> "unconditional forwarding" (you get no chance to answer) it'll go
> straight to Google Voice and since you'll have no phones checked on
> Google Voice then Google Voice will not try to ring any phones but will
> send the call straight to voice mail. Unfortunately,my landline provider
> (Sonic.net) doesn't offer call forwarding so I can't do what you're
> doing with the home phone.
So if I forward my AT&T land line *and* my cell to Google Voice,
un-check *any* phone on Google Voice then I'll get the voice mails which
will be converted to text?
I think this is what you mean.
Thanks, too, for the assistance, SMS. It is greatly appreciated.
On 6/5/2011 8:25 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 6/5/2011 4:34 PM, SMS wrote:
>> On 6/5/2011 1:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I'll have to see if it will allow me to check box two phones.
>>
>> No, you don't want to check multiple phones (or any phones for that
>> matter).
>>
>> The check mark is _solely_ for which phones you want to ring when
>> someone calls your Google Voice number, _not_ which phones you want the
>> Google Voice mail system to pick up. You don't want _any_ phones to
>> ring, you want the forwarded calls to Google Voice to go straight to
>> Google Voice voice mail. So you want to NOT check any phones.
>>
>> I tried this all out. If I call my cell phone number (which is forwarded
>> to Google Voice), and the cell phone is on, first the cell phone rings,
>> then if I don't pick it up the call forwards to Google Voice which rings
>> other phones that I have checked, then if I don't answer those phones
>> the call goes to voice mail This all takes _WAY_ too long.
>>
>> If I turn off the cell phone, and I uncheck all the phones on Google
>> Voice, then the call goes _immediately_ to Google Voice voice mail
>> (pretty sure that's what you want to do).
>>
>> I was wrong about one thing. Just because Google Voice recognizes a call
>> as being from a phone (or forwarded from a phone) on your Google Voice
>> account, that does NOT stop it from ringing other checked phones, which
>> makes sense when you thing about it (you may have given one phone on
>> your Google Voice account to someone else to use, and that person is
>> calling your Google Voice number and you want to be able to pick up the
>> call).
>>
>> So the bottom line is this:
>>
>> 1. You want to uncheck all phones on Google Voice, so forwarded incoming
>> calls from your cell phone or home phone go _straight_ to Google Voice
>> voice mail, _without_ trying to ring any phones on your account.
>>
>> 2. If you're using "No Answer/Busy Transfer"
>> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/no_answer_transfer.html>
>>
>> then you want your cell phone(s) turned off (which, when receiving
>> incoming calls from third parties, will eliminate your cell phone
>> ringing before forwarding the call to Google Voice). If you're using
>> unconditional forwarding
>> <http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html>
>>
>> then it doesn't matter if the cell phone is on or off, it won't ring.
>
> I have it set up for "unconditional forwarding"
>>
>> 3. On AT&T landlines when you activate call forwarding it's
>> "unconditional forwarding" (you get no chance to answer) it'll go
>> straight to Google Voice and since you'll have no phones checked on
>> Google Voice then Google Voice will not try to ring any phones but will
>> send the call straight to voice mail. Unfortunately,my landline provider
>> (Sonic.net) doesn't offer call forwarding so I can't do what you're
>> doing with the home phone.
>
> So if I forward my AT&T land line *and* my cell to Google Voice,
> un-check *any* phone on Google Voice then I'll get the voice mails which
> will be converted to text?
Yes. That's what you want to do. You'll get a speech to text
transcription of every voice mail. Something like this one I got from
the guy who rents a property I own:
"Hi Steve, It's bad. I have just set up the San Jose water enlightening.
I have actually go into the office because women who Calvin the nineties
and what not...."
But again, the e-mail message will include both the transcription and a
link to listen to the actual message.
I'm not sure what happens if you have the AT&T landline checked so calls
to it get sent to Google Voice, and also have the AT&T landline set up
to forward calls to Google Voice. I'm sure Google Voice has a graceful
way of dealing with this loop, i.e. not calling a checked number if the
call is from the checked number.
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4dec55c6$0$2147$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> On 6/5/2011 8:25 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>> On 6/5/2011 4:34 PM, SMS wrote:
>>> On 6/5/2011 1:01 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
Wow this thread got convoluted.
Google Voice is really easy, will do fantastic things, and has a
surprisingly robust set of FAQs and help forums. Read, read, read, and
Google will answer all of your questions.
I have used GV daily for about a year and a half. I have multiple GV
numbers, for multiple purposes, but I have settled into mostly using one GV
number. I use it in conjunction with 2 different cell phones, my land line,
my business line, a VoIP set-up, and Google's own Google Talk (different
from but compatible with GV).
Janet, you want to do the opposite of what the majority of people use GV
for, but GV is still capable of supporting what you are trying to do. In my
case, I use GV as kind of a software-in-the-cloud PBX. I give people my GV
number (only) and then I can control where, when and how they can reach me.
I can ring all my phones, or none of my phones. I can give it to a
stranger, and then block them from calling me in the future. GV records all
the call detail, and voicemails, and transcriptions (which are usually
laughable) and I can go to my GV website to see and manage all of it. GV
also emails me the transcripts and .wav files of voicemails, as well as
notices of missed calls. Notices and transcript could also be sent via
text.
All my phones could ring, or a subset, or none as I choose. If a phone is
not checked it will not ring, and GV will handle the VM.
You can of course do all of this from your Netbook, You can configure GV,
listen to your VMs, read your transcripts, and use GV to place calls
directly. There is a tool that integrates GV with Google Talk so that you
can place calls from Google Talk to any PSTN phone. In addition, I use
Chrome, and there is an neat plug-in that integrates GV into my browser.
But enough of all of that.
Janet, if you want to have easy access to all of this while in Russia, you
could give out your GV number to friends and family and say "call this while
I am away." Simply turn-off/uncheck any phone associated with that GV
number, and all calls will go to VM and be transcribed, and you could get
email notices if you wish.
If, instead, you want to have all calls from anyone to your cell be handled
by GV, you must associate that number with GV("add another phone" from the
settings menu), and then go through the drill of clicking "activate google
voicemail on this phone." GV provides carrier-specific instructions. In
the case of my Verizon (now Page Plus) phones, GV instructs me to do this:
"Your carrier: Verizon Change carrier
Follow these steps to activate Google Voice on your mobile phone .
Enter the following exactly as written, as if you are dialing someone:
*71773XXXYYYY (< ==my GV number)
Press "Send" or "Call" on your phone to dial that number. The phone
will appear to make a call and then hang up. When that is completed, you are
done!"
> Janet, if you want to have easy access to all of this while in Russia, you
> could give out your GV number to friends and family and say "call this while
> I am away." Simply turn-off/uncheck any phone associated with that GV
> number, and all calls will go to VM and be transcribed, and you could get
> email notices if you wish.
Would rather not do that. I just want to monitor the calls. If it's
something that needs response, I'll call from Russia. Otherwise, I'll
have a record and reply when we get back.
> If, instead, you want to have all calls from anyone to your cell be handled
> by GV, you must associate that number with GV("add another phone" from the
> settings menu), and then go through the drill of clicking "activate google
> voicemail on this phone." GV provides carrier-specific instructions. In
> the case of my Verizon (now Page Plus) phones, GV instructs me to do this:
>
> "Your carrier: Verizon Change carrier
> Follow these steps to activate Google Voice on your mobile phone .
>
> Enter the following exactly as written, as if you are dialing someone:
>
> *71773XXXYYYY (< ==my GV number)
>
> Press "Send" or "Call" on your phone to dial that number. The phone
> will appear to make a call and then hang up. When that is completed, you are
> done!"
I did that and the Google Voice account shows that the cell phone is
linked. BTW, it makes a call and an automated response answers saying it
is an improper (or something like that) call. The site does show that
the phone is set up.