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Old 06-02-2012, 05:16 AM
tlvp
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Default Q.: "Registering Applications" ?

So: this Verizon-branded Motorola RAZR V3m of mine, newly activated on PP,
turns out to "phone home" every time I turn it on. Sequence of events is:

0) Handset currently off ... ;
1) Press & hold red (hang-up) button 3-4 seconds ;
2) see "Verizon" (text) graphic appear ... lasts ~30 (?) seconds ;
3) feel vibration and see animated V-cast graphic appear ;
4) see Monologue box with 2 lines of text: "Registering Applications"
and see WAP data activity icon flashing in upper banner strip
(between [EV] indicator and Location service indicator) for ~5 seconds.

My question: what's going on at step 4) there, and how (if at all) can I
prevent it?

The only "applications" I'm aware of are a PacMan trial, a Tetris trial, a
mobile IM (Get Going) app (never yet activated), and ... well, nothing else
that I'm aware of (unless this handset, like a Samsung, has a Contacts
back-up app that I haven't found yet).

I'd be happy to scrap PacMan, Tetris, IM, and any Contacts backing-up.

Any ideas how I can put a stop to this unneeded/unwanted data (mis)use?

TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:06 PM
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> So: this Verizon-branded Motorola RAZR V3m of mine, newly activated on PP,
> turns out to "phone home" every time I turn it on. Sequence of events is:
>
> 0) Handset currently off ... ;
> 1) Press & hold red (hang-up) button 3-4 seconds ;
> 2) see "Verizon" (text) graphic appear ... lasts ~30 (?) seconds ;
> 3) feel vibration and see animated V-cast graphic appear ;
> 4) see Monologue box with 2 lines of text: "Registering Applications"
> and see WAP data activity icon flashing in upper banner strip
> (between [EV] indicator and Location service indicator) for ~5 seconds.
>
> My question: what's going on at step 4) there, and how (if at all) can I
> prevent it?
>
> The only "applications" I'm aware of are a PacMan trial, a Tetris trial, a
> mobile IM (Get Going) app (never yet activated), and ... well, nothing
> else
> that I'm aware of (unless this handset, like a Samsung, has a Contacts
> back-up app that I haven't found yet).
>
> I'd be happy to scrap PacMan, Tetris, IM, and any Contacts backing-up.
>
> Any ideas how I can put a stop to this unneeded/unwanted data (mis)use?
>
> TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
> --
> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.


This has occurred with every RAZR that I have ever set up in the manner that
we have been discussing. I think it is triggered by installing the drivers
necessary to activate this tinkering. I have never figured out how to turn
that off. In my case, it costs one penny each time the phone is turned on.

Share if you discover what is getting on. My best guess is that the phone
is not really registering applications, but is testing the data link -- some
kind of handshaking -- and that about a penny's worth (10.24 KB on the
Standard Plan) of data is being consumed.



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Old 06-04-2012, 01:32 PM
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:06:58 -0500, tycho wrote:

> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> So: this Verizon-branded Motorola RAZR V3m of mine, newly activated on PP,
>> turns out to "phone home" every time I turn it on. ...
>> ... 2 lines of text: "Registering Applications"

>
> This has occurred with every RAZR that I have ever set up in the manner that
> we have been discussing. ...


I see. On a Samsung I had set up like this earlier, temporarily, it only
happened until I removed an app that synched the Contacts list with some
VZW server. But I gave up on that handset because (i) I couldn't get it to
do any WAP browsing whatsoever; and (ii) the number assigned me had
previously belonged to some deadbeat whom bill-collectors were now hounding
24 hours a day (I exaggerate of course -- only 12-15 calls a day, 8am-8pm,
with only 2-3/day bothering to leave voicemail :-) . I just let its initial
trial activation, complete with trial $2 credit, lapse.

> ... it costs one penny each time the phone is turned on.


So, even turning it on once a day, that's not even ten bits over the course
of 120 days. Worth ignoring, I guess.

> Share if you discover what is getting on.


Will do. Thanks for the background. Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:10 PM
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:06:58 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
>> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So: this Verizon-branded Motorola RAZR V3m of mine, newly activated on
>>> PP,
>>> turns out to "phone home" every time I turn it on. ...
>>> ... 2 lines of text: "Registering Applications"

>>
>> This has occurred with every RAZR that I have ever set up in the manner
>> that
>> we have been discussing. ...

>
> I see. On a Samsung I had set up like this earlier, temporarily, it only
> happened until I removed an app that synched the Contacts list with some
> VZW server. But I gave up on that handset because (i) I couldn't get it to
> do any WAP browsing whatsoever; and (ii) the number assigned me had
> previously belonged to some deadbeat whom bill-collectors were now
> hounding
> 24 hours a day (I exaggerate of course -- only 12-15 calls a day, 8am-8pm,
> with only 2-3/day bothering to leave voicemail :-) . I just let its
> initial
> trial activation, complete with trial $2 credit, lapse.
>
>> ... it costs one penny each time the phone is turned on.

>
> So, even turning it on once a day, that's not even ten bits over the
> course
> of 120 days. Worth ignoring, I guess.


Another solution: don't turn the phone off. Put it on the charger while it
is on. The "Registering Applications" and lost penny only occurs (for me at
least) during start-up.




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Old 06-05-2012, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: "Registering Applications" ?

The fix for this is to back up all data on the phone and do a hard reset of
youre phone you will need to reactavate it and reset up youre ring tones
ect.
it fixed my phone from doing it for 3 years now.

"tycho" <this@wont-work.com> wrote in message
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>
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:xmqok7nz8v5c.139dzyrgn7xdf$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> So: this Verizon-branded Motorola RAZR V3m of mine, newly activated on
>> PP,
>> turns out to "phone home" every time I turn it on. Sequence of events is:
>>
>> 0) Handset currently off ... ;
>> 1) Press & hold red (hang-up) button 3-4 seconds ;
>> 2) see "Verizon" (text) graphic appear ... lasts ~30 (?) seconds ;
>> 3) feel vibration and see animated V-cast graphic appear ;
>> 4) see Monologue box with 2 lines of text: "Registering Applications"
>> and see WAP data activity icon flashing in upper banner strip
>> (between [EV] indicator and Location service indicator) for ~5 seconds.
>>
>> My question: what's going on at step 4) there, and how (if at all) can I
>> prevent it?
>>
>> The only "applications" I'm aware of are a PacMan trial, a Tetris trial,
>> a
>> mobile IM (Get Going) app (never yet activated), and ... well, nothing
>> else
>> that I'm aware of (unless this handset, like a Samsung, has a Contacts
>> back-up app that I haven't found yet).
>>
>> I'd be happy to scrap PacMan, Tetris, IM, and any Contacts backing-up.
>>
>> Any ideas how I can put a stop to this unneeded/unwanted data (mis)use?
>>
>> TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
>> --
>> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

>
> This has occurred with every RAZR that I have ever set up in the manner
> that we have been discussing. I think it is triggered by installing the
> drivers necessary to activate this tinkering. I have never figured out
> how to turn that off. In my case, it costs one penny each time the phone
> is turned on.
>
> Share if you discover what is getting on. My best guess is that the phone
> is not really registering applications, but is testing the data link --
> some kind of handshaking -- and that about a penny's worth (10.24 KB on
> the Standard Plan) of data is being consumed.
>




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Old 06-06-2012, 12:32 AM
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:10:51 -0500, tycho wrote:

> Another solution: don't turn the phone off. Put it on the charger while it
> is on. The "Registering Applications" and lost penny only occurs (for me at
> least) during start-up.


Of course. But while playing with the WebSessions business, using #0SETUP*,
I thought it best to restart the phone OS after every settings change (bad
Windows habit that I can't break now, after so many years :-) ).

Hence: power off; wait a tad; power on again. Ka-ching: $0.01 (!).

Ehh -- won't break the bank. Cheers. -- tlvp
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:36 AM
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 03:51:23 -0400, Andy wrote:

> The fix for this is to back up all data on the phone and do a hard reset of
> youre phone you will need to reactavate it and reset up youre ring tones
> ect.
> it fixed my phone from doing it for 3 years now.


Heh ... the handset is new to me, though it's 7 years old, so there's
nothing on it I'd care to back up in the first place. Maybe I should just
do a hard reset, as you suggest -- kills all the apps, does it? and
whatever app-backing-up may be going on now?

Sounds worth it, thanks for the tip :-) ! Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:20 AM
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Deletes everything that didn't originally come on the phone when it was new
out of the box.
and its a pain you have to reset up the phone with the #228 activation set
up but then you're up and running after you reset all you're settings the
way you want things.
might not work as well on all phones but did for mine that's for sure.


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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
news:191m4ad7qf320.1j5unfsric7of$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 03:51:23 -0400, Andy wrote:
>
>> The fix for this is to back up all data on the phone and do a hard reset
>> of
>> youre phone you will need to reactavate it and reset up youre ring tones
>> ect.
>> it fixed my phone from doing it for 3 years now.

>
> Heh ... the handset is new to me, though it's 7 years old, so there's
> nothing on it I'd care to back up in the first place. Maybe I should just
> do a hard reset, as you suggest -- kills all the apps, does it? and
> whatever app-backing-up may be going on now?
>
> Sounds worth it, thanks for the tip :-) ! Cheers, -- tlvp
> --
> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.




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