Palm Treo 650: remove the battery cover, and down below the battery
itself, you see two tiny little machine screws right and left, taking
some non-Allen sort of hex wrench to tighten or remove.
Q1: how do you call that sort of hex wrench?
Q2: where do you get a replacement for a missing such machine screw?
TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> Palm Treo 650: remove the battery cover, and down below the battery
> itself, you see two tiny little machine screws right and left, taking
> some non-Allen sort of hex wrench to tighten or remove.
>
> Q1: how do you call that sort of hex wrench?
> Q2: where do you get a replacement for a missing such machine screw?
I have to use a security torx bit to remove the MAF sensor on my car
to clean it. They are also frequently used in electronic devices such
as hard drives.
The Wiki page above shows examples of numerous types of fastener
heads.
> Palm Treo 650: remove the battery cover, and down below the
> battery itself, you see two tiny little machine screws right and
> left, taking some non-Allen sort of hex wrench to tighten or
> remove.
>
> Q1: how do you call that sort of hex wrench?
> Q2: where do you get a replacement for a missing such machine
> screw?
>
> TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:50:08 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:32:21 -0500, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Torix (spl?)
>
> Close. It's torx.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
>
> I have to use a security torx bit to remove the MAF sensor on my car
> to clean it. They are also frequently used in electronic devices such
> as hard drives.
>
> The Wiki page above shows examples of numerous types of fastener
> heads.
I'll buy that -- Torx it is -- but, seemingly, requiring driver
of size even smaller than T1, as microscopic examination reveals
a point-to-point distance of about 0.020" (T1 is a big 0.031").
Are there a T0? or a T00? or other superminiature size(s)?
Thanks, all for your guidance! Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:50:08 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:32:21 -0500, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Torix (spl?)
>
> Close. It's torx.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
>
> I have to use a security torx bit to remove the MAF sensor on my car
> to clean it. They are also frequently used in electronic devices such
> as hard drives.
>
> The Wiki page above shows examples of numerous types of fastener
> heads.
I'll buy that -- Torx it is -- but, seemingly, requiring driver
of size even smaller than T1, as microscopic examination reveals
a point-to-point distance of about 0.020" (T1 is a big 0.031").
Are there a T0? or a T00? or other superminiature size(s)?
==========================================
Maybe something in the jeweler's tool department?
or eyeglass repair?
bj
Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:22:28 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:
>I'll buy that -- Torx it is -- but, seemingly, requiring driver
>of size even smaller than T1, as microscopic examination reveals
>a point-to-point distance of about 0.020" (T1 is a big 0.031").
>
>Are there a T0? or a T00? or other superminiature size(s)?
I found this, which says it's a Torx 0.8. Most definitely the
smallest one I've ever seen.
"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> Palm Treo 650: remove the battery cover, and down below the battery
> itself, you see two tiny little machine screws right and left, taking
> some non-Allen sort of hex wrench to tighten or remove.
>
> Q1: how do you call that sort of hex wrench?
> Q2: where do you get a replacement for a missing such machine screw?
>
> TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
> --
> Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
called Torx...not certain of this, but try a jeweler.
Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:58 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:22:28 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I'll buy that -- Torx it is -- but, seemingly, requiring driver
>>of size even smaller than T1, as microscopic examination reveals
>>a point-to-point distance of about 0.020" (T1 is a big 0.031").
>>
>>Are there a T0? or a T00? or other superminiature size(s)?
>
> I found this, which says it's a Torx 0.8. Most definitely the
> smallest one I've ever seen.
>
> http://stellatech.com/article.php?lang=en&id=810121
Thanks for calling that to my attention. In fact, as a number of
"Fixit" sites seem to report that the seven principal screws that
hold the Treo 650 front and back case halves together require T5's,
I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with tech help,
or a local Harbor Freight outlet, and see whether my Treo 650's screws
require a T5 or something finer. My eyes, and my 1/64"-graduated ruler,
may not be quite up to the task of measuring/estimating what's called
the "Inch point to point [in]" measurements (in the Wikipedia page)
for my 650's Torx screws :-) .
So thanks again (and I'll have to bookmark them in my travel file, for
the next time I'm in Berlin -- they're as well worth a visit as the great
Ethnographical museums of that fine city); and cheers,
-- tlvp
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 02:05:17 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:
>I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with tech help,
>or a local Harbor Freight outlet
If you have a local computer or cell repair shop, I'd start there. I
got my security torx set at Harbor Freight and they just don't seem to
cater to the smaller tools sizes you're looking for.
On 11/5/2011 3:50 PM, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:32:21 -0500, "NotMe"<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Torix (spl?)
>
> Close. It's torx.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
>
> I have to use a security torx bit to remove the MAF sensor on my car
> to clean it. They are also frequently used in electronic devices such
> as hard drives.
>
> The Wiki page above shows examples of numerous types of fastener
> heads.
Most of these are intended to prevent tinkering by those who do not know
what they are doing. Threats that "you will void your warranty" are
apparently not sufficient to keep the tinkerers out. The next step is
probably a "self destruct" when the case is opened.
Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Sun, 06 Nov 2011 11:39:46 -0500]:
> On 11/5/2011 3:50 PM, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:32:21 -0500, "NotMe"<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Torix (spl?)
>>
>> Close. It's torx.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
>>
>> I have to use a security torx bit to remove the MAF sensor on my car
>> to clean it. They are also frequently used in electronic devices such
>> as hard drives.
>>
>> The Wiki page above shows examples of numerous types of fastener
>> heads.
>
> Most of these are intended to prevent tinkering by those who do not know
> what they are doing. Threats that "you will void your warranty" are
> apparently not sufficient to keep the tinkerers out. The next step is
> probably a "self destruct" when the case is opened.
Yeah, I wonder if the treo in question is still in warranty
hah, probably not for years
Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
> I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with
> tech help, or a local Harbor Freight outlet, and see whether my
> Treo 650's screws require a T5 or something finer.
Home Depot has a very nice set of small Torx drives, here's the one I
got:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 17:22:17 +0000 (UTC), Justin wondered:
> ... if the treo in question is still in warranty
> hah, probably not for years
Justin, that Treo is one I salvaged (complete with its charger)
from a cell-phone recycle bin on the campus of my former employer.
Near as I can tell, it hadn't been used since April or May of 2010,
but (apart from having one of its screws lost and another one loose)
it seems to be just phine as a PalmPilot, and as a camera -- and
maybe even as a CDMA fone :-) .
(Alas, it was a Sprint model, so I'm probably *not* gonna be able to
get it activated with PagePlus :-{ . And I know of no Sprint-linked
MVNO to use in place of PagePlus.)
Cheers, -- tlvp
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Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:12:32 -0700, XS11E wrote:
> tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with
>> tech help, or a local Harbor Freight outlet, and see whether my
>> Treo 650's screws require a T5 or something finer.
>
> Home Depot has a very nice set of small Torx drives, here's the one I
> got:
>
> <http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100087664/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053>
>
> Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ok2d93
>
> It will have the bit you need and the quality is very good.
Thanks for that HomeDepot tip. May just be my best bet. Cheers, -- tlvp
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Those infernal tiny machine screws ...
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:28:20 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Nov 2011 02:05:17 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with tech help,
>>or a local Harbor Freight outlet
>
> If you have a local computer or cell repair shop, I'd start there. I
> got my security torx set at Harbor Freight and they just don't seem to
> cater to the smaller tools sizes you're looking for.
>
> You can check their selection at http://www.harborfreight.com.
In fact, my local Harbor Freight had in stock just what I needed:
a $7.99 kit of tiny Torx, Phillips, Flathead, and square-drive bits
(their SKU # 93916), including a Torx T-5 that fit perfectly in the
Torx screws holding my Treo 650 together.
BTW, four of the five accessible ones needed some serious snugging up
(the fifth was tight already, and a sixth had gone missing; "the" 7th
is the one that holds the antenna fast and I didn't bother undoing the
rubber plug that makes it accessible).
BTW as well, what with coupons from a local "Weekly Deals" brochure,
the bottom line for that kit -- plus a pair of utility scissors -- came
to under six bucks :-) .
Now to find a replacement for that one missing, T5-headed, 6.9 mm long
machine screw ... and a 650-ish version of the old Expense app that Palm
had for the old IIIe ... .
Thanks, all. And cheers, -- tlvp
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:12:32 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
>tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with
>> tech help, or a local Harbor Freight outlet, and see whether my
>> Treo 650's screws require a T5 or something finer.
>
>Home Depot has a very nice set of small Torx drives, here's the one I
>got:
>
>http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-
>100087664/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
>
>Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ok2d93
>
>It will have the bit you need and the quality is very good.
I have that item and I've found the quality to be poor. I've
disassembled hard drives and in the process I've destroyed several of
the bits, rounding the points if the screws are tight, which they
usually are.
The set is inexpensive and should work for at least a couple of tasks,
so I do recommend it, but I wouldn't expect any long term service from
it.
On Tue, 01 May 2012 16:23:31 -0500, Paul Miner wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:12:32 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I should probably try to find a local cellphone store with
>>> tech help, or a local Harbor Freight outlet, and see whether my
>>> Treo 650's screws require a T5 or something finer.
>>
>>Home Depot has a very nice set of small Torx drives, here's the one I
>>got:
>>
>>http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-
>>100087664/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
>>
>>Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ok2d93
>>
>>It will have the bit you need and the quality is very good.
>
> I have that item and I've found the quality to be poor. I've
> disassembled hard drives and in the process I've destroyed several of
> the bits, rounding the points if the screws are tight, which they
> usually are.
>
> The set is inexpensive and should work for at least a couple of tasks,
> so I do recommend it, but I wouldn't expect any long term service from
> it.
Thanks, Paul. I picked up the Harbor Freight offering, using a local
coupons-magazine offering page to get it and a blood-pressure machine and
something else for about two bucks, total; and used the T5 to gently *snug
up* a couple of the 650's screws that were loose. Fit the bill perfectly.
Now if I could just find an actual T5-headed screw to replace the one that
had inexplicably gone missing on that 650 before it reached my hands :-) .
Cheers, -- tlvp
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> Now if I could just find an actual T5-headed screw to replace the
> one that had inexplicably gone missing on that 650 before it
> reached my hands :-) .
Google is your friend. I've bought screw packs for different phones
from ebay. They may have 'em for your 650.
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Now if I could just find an actual T5-headed screw to replace the
>> one that had inexplicably gone missing on that 650 before it
>> reached my hands :-) .
>
> Google is your friend. I've bought screw packs for different phones
> from ebay. They may have 'em for your 650.
>
>
>
>
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The internet is your friend....google I'm not so certain about.
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsA046D1D5D263Exs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1...
>> tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Now if I could just find an actual T5-headed screw to replace the
>>> one that had inexplicably gone missing on that 650 before it
>
> Screws and other parts, try here:
> http://www.directfix.com/category/_TREO.html
One screw's the only thing I still need (sort of -- not absolutely
necessary for holding things together, but it'd be nice to have it).
So this link is a welcome one, thanks.
> How old is this post anyway?
Oh, it goes back a good 6 months or more ... but don't worry, I keep good
watch over my old posts: I don't abandon 'em, or let 'em become orphaned
necro-posts :-) .
So thanks, and cheers, -- tlvp
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