Some here may have done this already, and know what it takes to get
SMS-center, MMS-center, and WAP AUTH settings correctly set up for a
Verizon-branded Motorola V3m RAZR activated (not on VZW but) on PagePlus
-- all hints and tips gratefully welcomed.
TIA; and cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> Some here may have done this already, and know what it takes to get
> SMS-center, MMS-center, and WAP AUTH settings correctly set up for a
> Verizon-branded Motorola V3m RAZR activated (not on VZW but) on PagePlus
> -- all hints and tips gratefully welcomed.
Getting a RAZR V3m working for talk/txt/mms is a no-brainer; works
out-of-the-box after the OTA programming from PP.
There is a trick to the WAP and proxy settings, however. I never had much
luck getting things to work as I wished, but I followed these directions to
do so:
*******
This sequence allows you to create an editable web session. It seems
complicated but it does work. Make sure you enter menu access entries
quickly in succession or they won't work. I got this information from
Googling Hofo archives, retyped some of it for clarity, but credit goes to
original poster 'sesotek'.
On your keypad enter: ##2769737 [##BROWSER] and the web sessions menu will
appear. Copy the VZW session to another session name, then set that new
session as the default and try to connect for a second. Then go to the setup
menu, #073887* [#0SETUP*] , enter six zeroes [000000] as the security code,
and do a 'browser reset'. The phone freezes for about 30 sec while it
resets. This deletes that session that you recently made, but does not set
the VZW one back to the default. So now if you try to use your browser, it
will say something like "browser setup is incomplete". Hit right soft-key
for 'Setup', once again copy the VZW session, and now edit that new session.
All the settings are now there to edit. Change the settings to the Page Plus
settings listed below. Then set this session as the default, because after
you make the changes and save it the only way to change anything is to do
the reset again.
Page Plus wap settings:
HOMEPAGE - This should be set to http://homepage.
USER ID - This should be set to "min".
PASSWORD - This should be set to "vzw".
GATEWAY 1 - This should be set to ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com
SERVICE TYPE - This should be set to "HTTP".
PORT 1 - This should be set to "8080".
E2E PORT 1 - This should be set to "8080".
LXL PORT 1 - This should be set to "443".
GATEWAY 2 - This should be set to ppcgw2.vzwreseller.com
SERVICE TYPE 2 - This should be set to "HTTP".
PORT 2 - This should be set to "8080".
E2E PORT 2 - This should be set to "8080".
LXL PORT 2 - This should be set to "443".
This setup will get you to the Page Plus portal which was Yahoo but today I
get MSN on my Smooth. Web access is pretty much limited to what you can get
to from the homepage. Verizon menu options like 'go to url' don't work. Some
people have reported luck using http://google.com as homepage. There was
also a recent problem with 'Bad Gateway' errors which may have been an
overload of users on PPC's gateway.
Note: this works great for the K1m and should work for the V3m and Slvr as
well, but it doesn't work for later phones like the Vu30 as the web session
menu is now totally locked down.
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:s8adjs71e1i3$.g24q993wo3ws.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Some here may have done this already, and know what it takes to get
>> SMS-center, MMS-center, and WAP AUTH settings correctly set up for a
>> Verizon-branded Motorola V3m RAZR activated (not on VZW but) on PagePlus
>> -- all hints and tips gratefully welcomed.
>
> Getting a RAZR V3m working for talk/txt/mms is a no-brainer; works
> out-of-the-box after the OTA programming from PP.
>
> There is a trick to the WAP and proxy settings, however. I never had much
> luck getting things to work as I wished, but I followed these directions to
> do so:
>
> *******
> This sequence allows you to create an editable web session. It seems
> complicated but it does work. Make sure you enter menu access entries
> quickly in succession or they won't work. I got this information from
> Googling Hofo archives, retyped some of it for clarity, but credit goes to
> original poster 'sesotek'.
>
> On your keypad enter: ##2769737 [##BROWSER] and the web sessions menu will
> appear. Copy the VZW session to another session name, then set that new
> session as the default and try to connect for a second. Then go to the setup
> menu, #073887* [#0SETUP*] , enter six zeroes [000000] as the security code,
> and do a 'browser reset'. The phone freezes for about 30 sec while it
> resets. This deletes that session that you recently made, but does not set
> the VZW one back to the default. So now if you try to use your browser, it
> will say something like "browser setup is incomplete". Hit right soft-key
> for 'Setup', once again copy the VZW session, and now edit that new session.
> All the settings are now there to edit. Change the settings to the Page Plus
> settings listed below. Then set this session as the default, because after
> you make the changes and save it the only way to change anything is to do
> the reset again.
>
> Page Plus wap settings:
> HOMEPAGE - This should be set to http://homepage.
> USER ID - This should be set to "min".
> PASSWORD - This should be set to "vzw".
> GATEWAY 1 - This should be set to ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com
> SERVICE TYPE - This should be set to "HTTP".
> PORT 1 - This should be set to "8080".
> E2E PORT 1 - This should be set to "8080".
> LXL PORT 1 - This should be set to "443".
> GATEWAY 2 - This should be set to ppcgw2.vzwreseller.com
> SERVICE TYPE 2 - This should be set to "HTTP".
> PORT 2 - This should be set to "8080".
> E2E PORT 2 - This should be set to "8080".
> LXL PORT 2 - This should be set to "443".
>
> This setup will get you to the Page Plus portal which was Yahoo but today I
> get MSN on my Smooth. Web access is pretty much limited to what you can get
> to from the homepage. Verizon menu options like 'go to url' don't work. Some
> people have reported luck using http://google.com as homepage. There was
> also a recent problem with 'Bad Gateway' errors which may have been an
> overload of users on PPC's gateway.
>
> Note: this works great for the K1m and should work for the V3m and Slvr as
> well, but it doesn't work for later phones like the Vu30 as the web session
> menu is now totally locked down.
>
> - Originally Posted by jay_rm
Thanks, tycho!
FWiW, googling the suggested gateway node names leads to a page
Phone is not now active on anyone's network. Presumably I should put off
trying these steps until I'm actually activated on Page Plus, eh?
Impatient as I am, i found other suggestions at
<http://www.kittywireless.com/pageplus/pageplusmanualprogramming.html>.
Keying in with minimal hesitation # # B R O W S E R (i.e., ## 27 69 737)
gets to an "Outbox" screen looking sort of like this:
[Taking too long to key in ##BROWSER, nothing at all happens, and then
pressing the green SEND key is useless -- tries to dial that number on the
VZW network, and fails; do it all fast enough, though, and the Outbox
screen appears immediately upon entry of the final keypress "7" (aka "R").]
Highlighting the VZW line, the Options soft-key offers Copy Entry (among
other options); selecting Copy Entry, prompts you for "where?" I chose PPC.
Ah, now the Outbox shows another entry along with VZW: a PPC (no lock, no
checkmark). Selecting that, the Options soft-key offers Edit (among other
options), and with that all one can adjust is the four items
instead -- alas, no place to add Homepage spec, user ID, or PW; and the
only way to give Port numbers might be via ":8080" after the Gateway URL.
At this point, though, one sees both VZW (locked, and with checkmark) and
PPC on the Outbox screen, and one can select PPC, at which the Options
soft-key allows you to Set [it as] Default, upon which it's the PPC item
that carries a checkmark.
Comments? Suggestions? Additions? I tried the [MENU][0][7][3][8][8][7][*]
and/or [#][0][7][3][8][8][7][*] gambits but they seemed to lead nowhere --
some timing detail I may have overlooked? Should that be the way to get to
add User/pswd AUTH details that I couldn't find?
Thanks again for your pointer, tycho, to the crucial search-term
ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com :-) ! Now to get this little beastie activated on
PP to see whether what I did helped :-) . [More later.]
Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:08:06 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
>> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:s8adjs71e1i3$.g24q993wo3ws.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Some here may have done this already, and know what it takes to get
>>> SMS-center, MMS-center, and WAP AUTH settings correctly set up for a
>>> Verizon-branded Motorola V3m RAZR activated (not on VZW but) on PagePlus
>>> -- all hints and tips gratefully welcomed.
>>
>> Getting a RAZR V3m working for talk/txt/mms is a no-brainer; works
>> out-of-the-box after the OTA programming from PP.
>>
>> There is a trick to the WAP and proxy settings, however. I never had
>> much
>> luck getting things to work as I wished, but I followed these directions
>> to
>> do so:
>>
>> *******
>> **SNIP**
> Thanks, tycho!
>
> FWiW, googling the suggested gateway node names leads to a page
>
> <http://pageplusdealer.com/PagePlus/catalog/DataSettings.php>
>
> where the username = "min" is amplified/explained/clarified as follows:
>
> : DigitPhoneNumber@vzw3g.com (i.e., not the literal, "min", but the
> MINnumber)
>
> Phone is not now active on anyone's network. Presumably I should put off
> trying these steps until I'm actually activated on Page Plus, eh?
>
> Impatient as I am, i found other suggestions at
> <http://www.kittywireless.com/pageplus/pageplusmanualprogramming.html>.
> Keying in with minimal hesitation # # B R O W S E R (i.e., ## 27 69 737)
> gets to an "Outbox" screen looking sort of like this:
>
> **SNIP**
>
> Thanks again for your pointer, tycho, to the crucial search-term
> ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com :-) ! Now to get this little beastie activated on
> PP to see whether what I did helped :-) . [More later.]
>
> Cheers, -- tlvp
> --
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I actually did get the V3m to work with WAP browsing at some point a year or
so ago, surely using a combination of what I provided to you coupled with
what you sent (I'm active on the Kitty forums and I believe I also found
what you found).
But, using the "vzwreseller.com"-related settings forces you into a kind of
"hotmail" mode -- their homepage, etc. I was able to browse to Google and
use that for a bit, but eventually any search would be forced back to
Hotmail. Based on my research, the only fix is to use an alternative WAP
proxy. I was lead to believe that "free" is hard to implement but check
here: http://www.zaksenterprises.com/Latest-News/wap.html There is also
supposed to be a low-cost for-pay WAP proxy out there, but that kinda
defeated my purpose. And, if you haven't discovered it yet, check this: http://hacktherazr.com/
In the end I stopped experimenting. I was playing around to see if I could
obtain any kind of useable Internet experience on the cheap using the RAZR,
but it was just too annoying. Moreover, because I (1) have a Pixi, and even
better yet (2) have a 4th Gen iPod Touch and usually am in WiFi range, and
even better-better yet have a (3) girlfriend with a cost-effective Virgin
Mobile "unlimited" plan on a phone on which I have installed a tethering app
so as to supply WiFi to my Pixi and iPod, I ceased playing with WAP on the
RAZR. I keep the RAZR because it is an excellent voice phone (way better
than the Pixi). It also connects via BT better to my car than the Pixi, has
voice-dial (which the Pixi lacks), and works better with programmed
speed-dialing than my Pixi.
> I actually did get the V3m to work with WAP browsing at some point a year or
> so ago, surely using a combination of what I provided to you coupled with
> what you sent (I'm active on the Kitty forums and I believe I also found
> what you found).
>
> But, using the "vzwreseller.com"-related settings forces you into a kind of
> "hotmail" mode -- their homepage, etc.
That wouldn't bother me so long as I can get to a personal page of
bookmarks that I've set up, as a .wml WAP deck, on a domain I control.
I'm easy to please that way :-) . But I'll keep tabs on the "other proxy"
idea you're promulgating.
> ... I was able to browse to Google and
> use that for a bit, but eventually any search would be forced back to
> Hotmail. Based on my research, the only fix is to use an alternative WAP
> proxy. I was lead to believe that "free" is hard to implement but check
> here: http://www.zaksenterprises.com/Latest-News/wap.html There is also
> supposed to be a low-cost for-pay WAP proxy out there, but that kinda
> defeated my purpose. And, if you haven't discovered it yet, check this:
> http://hacktherazr.com/ .
Yup: hadn't discovered it yet. So thanks for mentioning it :-) .
> In the end I stopped experimenting. I was playing around to see if I could
> obtain any kind of useable Internet experience on the cheap using the RAZR,
Has Opera got a BREW-based version of Opera Mini going yet?
> but it was just too annoying. Moreover, because I (1) have a Pixi, and even
> better yet (2) have a 4th Gen iPod Touch and usually am in WiFi range, and
> even better-better yet have a (3) girlfriend with a cost-effective Virgin
> Mobile "unlimited" plan on a phone on which I have installed a tethering app
> so as to supply WiFi to my Pixi and iPod, I ceased playing with WAP on the
> RAZR. I keep the RAZR because it is an excellent voice phone (way better
> than the Pixi). It also connects via BT better to my car than the Pixi, has
> voice-dial (which the Pixi lacks), and works better with programmed
> speed-dialing than my Pixi.
Do you recommend -- or warn against -- hacktherazr's "DOWNLOAD THE MOTOROLA
DRIVER INSTALLER (Version: 2.06 / Driver Package: 2.6.2 / Size: 3.4mb)"
offering?
Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:51:38 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
***SNIP***
> Has Opera got a BREW-based version of Opera Mini going yet?
Honestly not sure. Only Opera I ever installed was on my =Laptop= so as to
use the free 1X (14.4K) data that I could get from the RAZR and deliver via
tether to the laptop. Interesting experiment. It did work, after a
fashion... See: http://my.opera.com/larskl/blog/2008...i-in-1280-1024
> Do you recommend -- or warn against -- hacktherazr's "DOWNLOAD THE
> MOTOROLA
> DRIVER INSTALLER (Version: 2.06 / Driver Package: 2.6.2 / Size: 3.4mb)"
> offering?
>
You need =some= drivers to make a PC recognize the phone when you connect
them via USB. Not sure that the above is what I used. I have in my
download bin "Moto_Drivers.zip" and it is only 66K. I think that's what I
used. I also have "Moto RAZR DriverTool" and it is a 240K folder.
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:e4dtb2xac5sm.acglomttbqz5.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:51:38 -0500, tycho wrote:
>>
> ***SNIP***
>> Has Opera got a BREW-based version of Opera Mini going yet?
>
> Honestly not sure. Only Opera I ever installed was on my =Laptop= so as to
> use the free 1X (14.4K) data that I could get from the RAZR and deliver via
> tether to the laptop. Interesting experiment. It did work, after a
> fashion... See:
> http://my.opera.com/larskl/blog/2008...i-in-1280-1024
>
>> Do you recommend -- or warn against -- hacktherazr's "DOWNLOAD THE
>> MOTOROLA
>> DRIVER INSTALLER (Version: 2.06 / Driver Package: 2.6.2 / Size: 3.4mb)"
>> offering?
>>
> You need =some= drivers to make a PC recognize the phone when you connect
> them via USB. Not sure that the above is what I used. I have in my
> download bin "Moto_Drivers.zip" and it is only 66K. I think that's what I
> used. I also have "Moto RAZR DriverTool" and it is a 240K folder.
Well ... Current situation is that Page Plus have transferred a line from a
cheap, antique StarTAC to this RAZR V3m. Voice and SMS in/out are dandy.
By keypressing *really* fast, I was able to get # 0 73887 * (# 0 SETUP *)
to take, and got into the programming menu. There I found the six
variations on * Port x (x = 1, 2; "*" = "", "E2E", "LXL") already set as
desired, User ID set at the previous owner's 10-digit Verizon phone number,
and a three-asterisk PassWord. That password I set to vzw (to be sure). I'm
not sure whether I should use my current 10-digit PagePlus phone number
as User ID, or [that 10-digit string] @ vzw3g.com instead.
I've chosen to try that [10-digit string] @ vzw3g.com with http://homepage/
as Homepage setting -- alas, that makes every attempt at a web session
error out with:
: Error: Requested content
: 'homepage/' cannot be
: accessed. You do not have
: access to the site.
Should I leave off the @vzw3g.com fragment?
Use a different (more complete) URL than ://homepage/ for Homepage?
Other?
TIA for your patient suggestions; and cheers, -- tlvp
[PS: More later, as things develop ... .]
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> I've chosen to try that [10-digit string] @ vzw3g.com with http://homepage/
> as Homepage setting -- alas, that makes every attempt at a web session
> error out with:
>
>: Error: Requested content
>: 'homepage/' cannot be
>: accessed. You do not have
>: access to the site.
>
> Should I leave off the @vzw3g.com fragment?
I tried that -- no difference, same failure mode.
> Use a different (more complete) URL than ://homepage/ for Homepage?
No hope -- that's a read-only setting, AFAICT, no way I can see to edit it.
Ideas? Thanks. -- tlvp
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> On Wed, 30 May 2012 19:19:34 -0400, tlvp wrote:
>
>> I've chosen to try that [10-digit string] @ vzw3g.com with http://homepage/
>> as Homepage setting -- alas, that makes every attempt at a web session
>> error out with:
>>
>>: Error: Requested content
>>: 'homepage/' cannot be
>>: accessed. You do not have
>>: access to the site.
>>
> I tried [leave off the @vzw3g.com fragment] -- no difference, same failure mode.
Ah, but putting in not the MIN itself but the literal three-LC-letter
expression
min
lets me get connected, to the surprisingly loaded, and yet useless, page
<http://home.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx> .
There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where *you*
want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
The Moto Q9m (WinMo 6 device) is astonishingly more friendly and usable --
as are the GSM incarnations of the RAZR V3, on T-Mo, and of its sibling,
the L2 (SLVR), on at&t.
Is there any way to ...
>> Use a different (more complete) URL than ://homepage/ for Homepage?
> ... [it looks like] ... a read-only setting, AFAICT, no way I can see to edit it.
>
> Ideas? Thanks. -- tlvp
Cheers, and TIA
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:16:20 -0400, tlvp wrote:
>
***SNIP***>
> Ah, but putting in not the MIN itself but the literal three-LC-letter
> expression
>
> min
>
> lets me get connected, to the surprisingly loaded, and yet useless, page
> <http://home.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx> .
>
> There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
> incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
> all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where *you*
> want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
You have now gotten as far as I had gotten.
I, too, found the MSN WAP page pretty much useless.
I was able to use the MSN page, and BING, to search for www.google.com, and
from there use google, but every now and then I would find myself back on
MSN through no efforts of my own. Grasshopper, you are now on your own.
Share the results!
> The Moto Q9m (WinMo 6 device) is astonishingly more friendly and usable --
> as are the GSM incarnations of the RAZR V3, on T-Mo, and of its sibling,
> the L2 (SLVR), on at&t.
>
>> Ideas? Thanks. -- tlvp
>
No ideas! My fear is that you cannot escape the grasp of VZW without using
a different proxy, per my earlier reply.
You are now at the head of the class, and we hope that you will share your
exploratory results!
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:48tto7xx9yai.1790nj2vaie0v.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:16:20 -0400, tlvp wrote:
>>
> ***SNIP***>
>> Ah, but putting in not the MIN itself but the literal three-LC-letter
>> expression
>>
>> min
>>
>> lets me get connected, to the surprisingly loaded, and yet useless, page
>> <http://home.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx> .
>>
>> There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
>> incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
>> all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where *you*
>> want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
>
> You have now gotten as far as I had gotten.
>
> I, too, found the MSN WAP page pretty much useless.
>
> I was able to use the MSN page, and BING, to search for www.google.com, and
> from there use google, but every now and then I would find myself back on
> MSN through no efforts of my own. Grasshopper, you are now on your own.
> Share the results!
>
>> The Moto Q9m (WinMo 6 device) is astonishingly more friendly and usable --
>> as are the GSM incarnations of the RAZR V3, on T-Mo, and of its sibling,
>> the L2 (SLVR), on at&t.
>>
>>> Ideas? Thanks. -- tlvp
>>
> No ideas! My fear is that you cannot escape the grasp of VZW without using
> a different proxy, per my earlier reply.
>
> You are now at the head of the class, and we hope that you will share your
> exploratory results!
It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
Anyway, thanks for getting me this far. I cannot see where to specify what
proxy to use, though, or even to read off what proxy is being used.
Cheers, and thanks again, -- tlvp (now seeking another Q9m instead :-) )
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"tycho" <this@wont-work.com> wrote in message
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>
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:48tto7xx9yai.1790nj2vaie0v.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:16:20 -0400, tlvp wrote:
>>
> ***SNIP***>
>> Ah, but putting in not the MIN itself but the literal three-LC-letter
>> expression
>>
>> min
>>
>> lets me get connected, to the surprisingly loaded, and yet useless, page
>> <http://home.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx> .
>>
>> There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
>> incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
>> all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where
>> *you*
>> want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
>
Let me explore the foregoing further.
When I select Mobile Web on the RAZR I am sent to the MSN Mobile page. The
Bing icon is highlighted. I can search and go to any website I choose.
In addition, my right soft key is "menu." From there the options I see are
"VZW Home", "add favorite", "search", "go to URL", "show URL". "Go to URL"
takes me back to MSN. "Add favorite" tells me that I am "currently using
WiFi and need to first access VZW mobile web through the VZW network." "In
the meantime you can still access the internet and search the web" (true).
What is not true is the reference to WiFI. I am obviously not using WiFi
because the RAZR is not a WiFi phone. But, because I am on the "reseller"
network, I guess VZW interprets me as being on WiFi. And thus, "add a
favorite" will never work, because I will never be on the VZW WAP network.
"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 May 2012 09:37:55 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
>> ***SNIP***>
> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
>
> Anyway, thanks for getting me this far. I cannot see where to specify what
> proxy to use, though, or even to read off what proxy is being used.
>
> Cheers, and thanks again, -- tlvp (now seeking another Q9m instead :-) )
I think the details of changing the RAZR WAP proxy might be gleaned from
this location:
> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
I'm sure they've driven them away but it's the proliferation of smart
phones, more than their attitude toward WAP.
Interesting you should bring this up because at my Toastmasters meeting
last night one person was trying to show how she could access the web on
her dumb phone on Verizon, but gave up.
Another member of the club is about to bail to Pageplus when her Verizon
contract ends next week. I put the kibash on her idea to add a smart
phone to her parent's family plan but use only Wi-Fi and no data (on
Pageplus you can have a Verizon smart phone with pay-as-you-go data, but
not on Verizon itself). Naturally our meeting place for Toastmasters has
free Wi-Fi, as do most businesses in Silicon Valley.
tlvp wrote on [Thu, 31 May 2012 10:56:25 -0400]:
>
> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
I don't imagine there was ever a drove of WAP users to begin with.
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1npdf9s53tf7f$.1vkt4samhtmtr$.dlg@40tude.net. ..
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 09:37:55 -0500, tycho wrote:
>>
>>> ***SNIP***>
>
>> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
>> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for getting me this far. I cannot see where to specify what
>> proxy to use, though, or even to read off what proxy is being used.
>>
>> Cheers, and thanks again, -- tlvp (now seeking another Q9m instead :-) )
>
> I think the details of changing the RAZR WAP proxy might be gleaned from
> this location:
>
> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/Free_WAP.htm
I'll have to have a look-see, thanks for doing my leg-work for me.
>> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:48tto7xx9yai.1790nj2vaie0v.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>> There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
>>> incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
>>> all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where
>>> *you*
>>> want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
>>
> Let me explore the foregoing further.
>
> When I select Mobile Web on the RAZR I am sent to the MSN Mobile page. The
> Bing icon is highlighted.
Up to here I quite agree.
> ... I can search and go to any website I choose.
If into the Bing Search Box I enter a website address, whether with or
without "http://" prepended, the V3m browser chugs a little and returns
with a duplicate of the original MSN Mobile page.
> In addition, my right soft key is "menu."
Likewise.
> ... From there the options I see are
> "VZW Home", "add favorite", "search", "go to URL", "show URL". "Go to URL"
> takes me back to MSN. "Add favorite" tells me that I am "currently using
> WiFi and need to first access VZW mobile web through the VZW network." "In
> the meantime you can still access the internet and search the web" (true).
"6. Address" is like your "show URL", and is read-only info. But there are
no "add favorite", or "search", or "Go to URL" options that I've been able
to find in that or any other menu on this V3m whatsoever.
> What is not true is the reference to WiFI. I am obviously not using WiFi
> because the RAZR is not a WiFi phone. But, because I am on the "reseller"
> network, I guess VZW interprets me as being on WiFi. And thus, "add a
> favorite" will never work, because I will never be on the VZW WAP network.
>
> That's all I know...
As regards the other sub-thread, that there is Opera Mini 4.4 for the V3m,
I must say I'm surprised, because my V3m is a BREW handset, and Opera Mini,
involving a .jad and/or a .jar, requires not a BREW but a J2ME environment.
Anyway, thanks for setting forth your RAZR's menu structure for comparison.
Mine's a bit more crippled, it would seem :-{ . Cheers, -- tlvp
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> "tycho" <this@wont-work.com> wrote in message
> news:jq7vp5$186$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:48tto7xx9yai.1790nj2vaie0v.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 23:16:20 -0400, tlvp wrote:
>>>
>> ***SNIP***>
>>> Ah, but putting in not the MIN itself but the literal three-LC-letter
>>> expression
>>>
>>> min
>>>
>>> lets me get connected, to the surprisingly loaded, and yet useless, page
>>> <http://home.mobile.msn.com/en-us/default.aspx> .
>>>
>>> There's no GoToURL amongst the options in the V3m's Browser Menu, and the
>>> incarnation of Bing on that default mobile.msn homepage doesn't serve at
>>> all as browser address bar -- so how do you get to navigate to where
>>> *you*
>>> want, rather than to where VZW is willing to let you?
>>
> Let me explore the foregoing further.
>
> When I select Mobile Web on the RAZR I am sent to the MSN Mobile page. The
> Bing icon is highlighted. I can search and go to any website I choose.
>
> In addition, my right soft key is "menu." From there the options I see are
> "VZW Home", "add favorite", "search", "go to URL", "show URL". "Go to URL"
> takes me back to MSN. "Add favorite" tells me that I am "currently using
> WiFi and need to first access VZW mobile web through the VZW network." "In
> the meantime you can still access the internet and search the web" (true).
>
> What is not true is the reference to WiFI. I am obviously not using WiFi
> because the RAZR is not a WiFi phone. But, because I am on the "reseller"
> network, I guess VZW interprets me as being on WiFi. And thus, "add a
> favorite" will never work, because I will never be on the VZW WAP network.
>
> That's all I know...
Unable to find, let alone exploit, any "Go to URL" function, I put some
URLs into an email to a hotmail account I have; then, logging in to Hotmail
from the MSN home page on the V3m, I can open that email, and the URLs in
it become hot links that the V3m's WAP browser *will* follow :-) (Cheers!).
And the links followed become a part of the browser's history :-) ... until
the session ends :-{ . And of course no "Add/Save as Favorite/Bookmark".
How Rube Goldberg is that Hotmail trick, though?
Other handsets at least allow URLs in SMS messages to serve as hot links
for their WAP browser (the GSM RAZR V3, old Nokia 6610, LG cu-400, SLVR L2)
-- that would be Rube Goldberg enough -- but not this VZW/CDMA RAZR V3m.
(Sigh!) Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Justin wrote:
> tlvp wrote on [Thu, 31 May 2012 10:56:25 -0400]:
>>
>> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
>> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
>
> I don't imagine there was ever a drove of WAP users to begin with.
I find that position hard to believe -- back in the Fall of 2000 when I
first came home from Belgium with a 3-band GSM Moto Timeport and a need for
a domestic cellular carrier, it was for the WAP service. Cellular voice I
had no use for -- even today, I have very little use for it; and SMS, while
it can be handy, is unnecessary if one has a good WAP service linking to
one's extant email providers' webmail interfaces.
In essence, for the dozen years I've had cellular service, it's *always*
been primarily for the WAP. If I'd started with VZW, I'd have dropped them,
early in the initial 15-day cooling-off period, never to return :-) .
Cheers, -- tlvp
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> On 5/31/2012 7:56 AM, tlvp wrote:
>
>> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
>> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
>
> I'm sure they've driven them away but it's the proliferation of smart
> phones, more than their attitude toward WAP.
>
> Interesting you should bring this up because at my Toastmasters meeting
> last night one person was trying to show how she could access the web on
> her dumb phone on Verizon, but gave up.
Dumbest move in the world, this bit about eliminating any Go to URL option.
> Another member of the club is about to bail to Pageplus when her Verizon
> contract ends next week. I put the kibash on her idea to add a smart
> phone to her parent's family plan but use only Wi-Fi and no data (on
> Pageplus you can have a Verizon smart phone with pay-as-you-go data, but
FWiW, the first phone this family outplaced to Page Plus was a Moto Q9m
WinMo6 unit. No need to modify a thing, browses just fine w/ MS WinMo IE.
Consequently, I had talked myself into believing the V3m would be as sweet
a kitty as that, and as both a (SIM-subsidy-unlocked, formerly Cingular)
SLVR and a GSM RAZR we have on T-Mo -- but not on your @$$ it ain't!
> not on Verizon itself). Naturally our meeting place for Toastmasters has
> free Wi-Fi, as do most businesses in Silicon Valley.
I picked up a MiniSD Wi-Fi card for the Q9m for the rare occasion that
we're "oot/n/aboot" where the Wi-Fi is plentiful but the CDMA is sparse,
but haven't used it yet. Seems 120 days isn't nearly enough time for the
Q9m to use up a single $10 PIN getting data from Page Plus :-) , so we
might just never get our money's worth from that Wi-Fi adapter.
Cheers, and thanks for your empathy and concern, -- tlvp
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At 01 Jun 2012 01:26:22 -0400 tlvp wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Justin wrote:
>
> > tlvp wrote on [Thu, 31 May 2012 10:56:25 -0400]:
> >>
> >> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send
thee"
> >> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in
droves!
> >
> > I don't imagine there was ever a drove of WAP users to begin with.
>
> I find that position hard to believe -- back in the Fall of 2000 when I
> first came home from Belgium with a 3-band GSM Moto Timeport and a need
for
> a domestic cellular carrier, it was for the WAP service. Cellular voice
I
> had no use for -- even today, I have very little use for it; and SMS,
while
> it can be handy, is unnecessary if one has a good WAP service linking to
> one's extant email providers' webmail interfaces.
To be fair, one person does not a "drove" make!
I too have used mobile data almost since there's been such a thing, (I
had an analog phone with an RJ-11 plug that allowed me to connect a PC
modem or fax machine. That connection usually topped out at 2400 baud,
maybe 4800 on a good day!) Folks like us were rare, and most people
couldn't be bothered with WAP, particularly if it cost extra.
> In essence, for the dozen years I've had cellular service, it's *always*
> been primarily for the WAP. If I'd started with VZW, I'd have dropped
them,
> early in the initial 15-day cooling-off period, never to return :-) .
I never liked WAP browsers or ten-key input. I typically tethered my
Pocket PCs to my phones via infrared in those days to take advantage of
the "high res" (320x240!) color screens and QWERTY on-screen keyboards.
tlvp wrote on [Fri, 1 Jun 2012 01:26:22 -0400]:
> On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC), Justin wrote:
>
>> tlvp wrote on [Thu, 31 May 2012 10:56:25 -0400]:
>>>
>>> It's hard to understand how, with its "Children, go where I send thee"
>>> attitude, VZW hasn't driven away its WAP-browsing clientele in droves!
>>
>> I don't imagine there was ever a drove of WAP users to begin with.
>
> I find that position hard to believe -- back in the Fall of 2000 when I
> first came home from Belgium with a 3-band GSM Moto Timeport and a need for
> a domestic cellular carrier, it was for the WAP service. Cellular voice I
> had no use for -- even today, I have very little use for it; and SMS, while
> it can be handy, is unnecessary if one has a good WAP service linking to
> one's extant email providers' webmail interfaces.
I used the google mail WAP interface once on my Razr
it was SLOW, it was clunky, it cost data to use
I can count on one finger the number of people I know who used data on
their pre-smartphone ON PURPOSE. Even though every verizon phone seemed to
pop into data at the drop of a mispressed button
> I never liked WAP browsers or ten-key input. I typically tethered my
> Pocket PCs to my phones via infrared in those days to take advantage of
> the "high res" (320x240!) color screens and QWERTY on-screen keyboards.
I was disappointed that so few phones had IR for tethering, since most
laptops used to have IR. There were some phones where they had the
window for IR on the phone, but there was really no IR. Infrared never
really took off for data usage other than for some printing functions
(I'm still using an HP 5MP Laserjet that has an IR port). I remember
printing from a Palm Pilot to an HP printer.
When I worked at NatSemi we made the IR chips used on about half the
laptops. I remember working at the IrDA (Infrared Data Association)
booth at Comdex one year, where we were showing some products. They had
a great poster of a kid insulting another kid with, "Your mother uses
cables." They had also rewritten the YMCA song. Instead of "It's fun to
stay at the YMCA" it was "It's fun to beam with the IrDA."
"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
news:1l84hln8b6hna.u5l2uldypifp$.dlg@40tude.net...
***SNIP***
> Unable to find, let alone exploit, any "Go to URL" function, I put some
> URLs into an email to a hotmail account I have; then, logging in to
> Hotmail
> from the MSN home page on the V3m, I can open that email, and the URLs in
> it become hot links that the V3m's WAP browser *will* follow :-)
> (Cheers!).
> And the links followed become a part of the browser's history :-) ...
> until
> the session ends :-{ . And of course no "Add/Save as Favorite/Bookmark".
>
> How Rube Goldberg is that Hotmail trick, though?
Too, too clever!
We must have different software loads, as I do have all the options that I
have described earlier in the thread, and as long as I use Bing to search
for and lead me to it I can (usually) get to most URLs. For example, if I
use Bing search to get to Yahoo email, I can then log in to my Yahoo
account. Similarly, I was able to use Bing to search for and go to Google
and then use Google.
One advantage: the appetite of the WAP browser is far less than a
smartphone browser. Even though I'm only on the PagePlus "standard plan"
(data=$.99/M, tinkering with the RAZR cost just 18 cents. Thus, if this
could be made to work, it might be a practical and inexpensive way to have
emergency limited-access email or whatever.
But, other than the huge kludgyness of all the above, one main reason why I
couldn't bear to use the RAZR in the real world for Internet access is the
keyboard entry system. Can barely use it for texting. Deal-breaker!
Hmmmm ... can I use the RAZR to tether data to my iPod Touch via Bluetooth?
Hmmmm...
Hmmmm ... can I use the RAZR to tether data to my iPod Touch via a USB
cable? I =can= do that to my laptop. Hmmmm...
> We must have different software loads, as I do have all the options that I
> have described earlier in the thread, and as long as I use Bing to search
> for and lead me to it I can (usually) get to most URLs. For example, if I
> use Bing search to get to Yahoo email, I can then log in to my Yahoo ...
My handset's UPC label bears datecode 0207. My Browser Info ( Menu |
Settings & Tools | 5. System | Device Info | Other Information | Browser
Info) says: Openwave 6.2.3. And you?
I don't doubt that you have what you described having. And I don't doubt
that Bing gets you to your Yahoo email ... I just doubt that the search
strings [ mail.yahoo.com ] or [ Yahoo+email ] are coaxing Bing to do that:
at least, in response to the former, Bing sends me a questionnaire, how
would I liked my search results formatted, while in response to the latter,
Bing spawns a fresh MSN homepage instance.
So: what sweet nothings do you whisper into Bing's search-term ear ... err,
*window* ... to get it to suggest a yahoo email login page?
> account. Similarly, I was able to use Bing to search for and go to Google
> and then use Google.
Ditto: good Bing-search string, please, for getting Bing to suggest Google?
> One advantage: the appetite of the WAP browser is far less than a
> smartphone browser. Even though I'm only on the PagePlus "standard plan"
> (data=$.99/M, tinkering with the RAZR cost just 18 cents. Thus, if this
> could be made to work, it might be a practical and inexpensive way to have
> emergency limited-access email or whatever.
Right: WAP data is utterly minimal. A month of all-I-can-stand daily email
checking on a T-Mo unlimited WAP plan (where, though it's metered, it costs
nothing extra) uses maybe 5 MB *over the whole gosh-darn month*. And four
months worth of daily email checking on the PagePlus-activated Moto Q9m
never quite used up the first $10 PIN that I applied to start the service.
> But, other than the huge kludgyness of all the above, one main reason why I
> couldn't bear to use the RAZR in the real world for Internet access is the
> keyboard entry system. Can barely use it for texting. Deal-breaker!
Agreed, MultiTap (or whatever TM-ed name they give it) is a drag. But, in
my view, it sure beats T9 :-) . (try writing Abu Simbel -- Abu starts out
as act, bat, bau[d], cat, cau[tion], cav[e], ... never quite lets me get to
the Simbel part :-) .)
> Hmmmm ... can I use the RAZR to tether data to my iPod Touch via Bluetooth?
> Hmmmm...
Which BT capabilities has your iPT? Which does the RAZR have? A match?
> Hmmmm ... can I use the RAZR to tether data to my iPod Touch via a USB
> cable? I =can= do that to my laptop. Hmmmm...
Not all USB ports have quite all USB connectivity potential; RIM's BB
Playbook, for example, can grok a USB keyboard, but not a USB HD (or so
'tis alleged). Be interesting to see what can work for you :-) .
Cheers, -- tlvp
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"tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:06:33 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
>> We must have different software loads, as I do have all the options that
>> I
>> have described earlier in the thread, and as long as I use Bing to search
>> for and lead me to it I can (usually) get to most URLs. For example, if
>> I
>> use Bing search to get to Yahoo email, I can then log in to my Yahoo ...
>
> My handset's UPC label bears datecode 0207. My Browser Info ( Menu |
> Settings & Tools | 5. System | Device Info | Other Information | Browser
> Info) says: Openwave 6.2.3. And you?
>
We have very different things going on. I have a different roster of
options under "menu/settings and tools". If I go to "menu/settings and
tools/9-Phone Info/2-SW Version/4-Browser Version" I also get Openwave
6.2.3. The overall software version on this phone is listed as
24.1_01.19.0A.
> I don't doubt that you have what you described having. And I don't doubt
> that Bing gets you to your Yahoo email ... I just doubt that the search
> strings [ mail.yahoo.com ] or [ Yahoo+email ] are coaxing Bing to do that:
> at least, in response to the former, Bing sends me a questionnaire, how
> would I liked my search results formatted, while in response to the
> latter,
> Bing spawns a fresh MSN homepage instance.
>
> So: what sweet nothings do you whisper into Bing's search-term ear ...
> err,
> *window* ... to get it to suggest a yahoo email login page?
>
> Ditto: good Bing-search string, please, for getting Bing to suggest
> Google?
If I am in the MSN Homepage that this setup forces me to, and I select the
"search" button (top right for me), I get a screen with a text box. I type
in "google." I select "go." I am taken to yet another screen (I suspect
Bing, but I have turned off picture dowlooads so I'm not quite sure) with
"google" in the text box and a "search" button beneath. I select "search".
It gives me urls/links to select. One was google. One was google mobile.
I selected same. It works.
This is much easier now because, having done this successfully, I can now go
to the "menu" softkey, get "browser menu," go down to 9-advanced, select
3-history, and select one of my successful targets, like the above "google
mobile."
From that page I can get to gmail, gmaps, gnews, youtube, gvoice, etc.
I was able to log into gmail.
For grins I also tried Google maps but it complains "the Google Maps
application is not supported on your KRAZR K1c." Close, but no cigar. It
offers to DL to me the J2ME version. I did, and the results were
interesting, but not what I was hoping for.
I just tried the above using as a search term "yahoo mail." I am taken to a
results page. One of the results is the link "sign into yahoo." another is
"Yahoo! Mail." I can select either and go the that page.
BIG WARNING: every "N" attempts at doing the above breaks, and/or is
intercepted, and I end up back at the MSN homescreen. That just happened
when I attempted to select the google "terms of service" link. This
problem, from what I have read, can only be fixed by installing a different
WAP proxy. Not for me. Perhaps you can go that road.
> "tlvp" <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote in message
> news:t8cvbfkbjfbo.1k5e3h8zz2in0.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:06:33 -0500, tycho wrote:
>>
>>> We must have different software loads, as I do have all the options that
>>> I
>>> have described earlier in the thread, and as long as I use Bing to search
>>> for and lead me to it I can (usually) get to most URLs. For example, if
>>> I
>>> use Bing search to get to Yahoo email, I can then log in to my Yahoo ...
>>
>> My handset's UPC label bears datecode 0207. My Browser Info ( Menu |
>> Settings & Tools | 5. System | Device Info | Other Information | Browser
>> Info) says: Openwave 6.2.3. And you?
>>
> We have very different things going on. I have a different roster of
> options under "menu/settings and tools". If I go to "menu/settings and
> tools/9-Phone Info/2-SW Version/4-Browser Version" I also get Openwave
> 6.2.3. The overall software version on this phone is listed as
> 24.1_01.19.0A.
Weird as all get-out! In my Menu | Settings & Tools , there is no 9 -- it
tops out at "8. Connections". Instead, I reach S/W Version as follows:
5. System | Device Info | Other Information | S/W Version:
NEWC_01.09.02 . ... yup, pretty different.
>> I don't doubt that you have what you described having. And I don't doubt
>> that Bing gets you to your Yahoo email ... I just doubt that the search
>> strings [ mail.yahoo.com ] or [ Yahoo+email ] are coaxing Bing to do that:
>> at least, in response to the former, Bing sends me a questionnaire, how
>> would I liked my search results formatted, while in response to the
>> latter,
>> Bing spawns a fresh MSN homepage instance.
>>
>> So: what sweet nothings do you whisper into Bing's search-term ear ...
>> err,
>> *window* ... to get it to suggest a yahoo email login page?
>>
>> Ditto: good Bing-search string, please, for getting Bing to suggest
>> Google?
>
> If I am in the MSN Homepage that this setup forces me to, and I select the
> "search" button (top right for me), I get a screen with a text box. I type
> in "google." I select "go." I am taken to yet another screen (I suspect
> Bing, but I have turned off picture dowlooads so I'm not quite sure) with
> "google" in the text box and a "search" button beneath. I select "search".
> It gives me urls/links to select. One was google. One was google mobile.
> I selected same. It works.
On mine it's unpredictable. Sometimes it works, I've since discovered.
Other times it just takes me back to VZW's initial MSN Homepage.
> This is much easier now because, having done this successfully, I can now go
> to the "menu" softkey, get "browser menu," go down to 9-advanced, select
> 3-history, and select one of my successful targets, like the above "google
> mobile."
Well, this V3m handset's [Menu] button offers no Browser Menu -- only
Contacts, Recent Calls, Settings & Tools, Get It Now (Tunes, Tones, Pix,
Flix, Fun, Games, News, Info, Going), and Messaging. Web access is had
*only* by pressing the Northern joystick compass-point, and that takes you
*only* to the preset homepage (MSN).
> From that page I can get to gmail, gmaps, gnews, youtube, gvoice, etc.
> I was able to log into gmail.
>
> For grins I also tried Google maps but it complains "the Google Maps
> application is not supported on your KRAZR K1c." Close, but no cigar. It
> offers to DL to me the J2ME version. I did, and the results were
> interesting, but not what I was hoping for.
I managed to get to my little personal WAP page with links of use to me,
one of which is the link for downloading/installing whatever .jar/.jad
file(s) Opera might think appropriate for the handset one is on. Opera
found my handset could use Opera Mini 4.4, and offered a link for
downloading and installing it. I accepted that ... and the browser
instantly brought back the MSN homepage :-{ . I don't think I'll dare try
google Maps :-) .
> I just tried the above using as a search term "yahoo mail." I am taken to a
> results page. One of the results is the link "sign into yahoo." another is
> "Yahoo! Mail." I can select either and go the that page.
>
> BIG WARNING: every "N" attempts at doing the above breaks, and/or is
> intercepted, and I end up back at the MSN homescreen. That just happened
> when I attempted to select the google "terms of service" link. This
> problem, from what I have read, can only be fixed by installing a different
> WAP proxy. Not for me. Perhaps you can go that road.
Heh-heh ... in my case "N" is on the order of 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 -- that is, I
only succeed in getting where I want once in every 3 to 5 tries. That's
pretty terrible. I may try defining yet another #0SETUP* bundle, giving as
gateway URLs not the ppcgw* ones recommended, but that WAP page of links I
developed for my own convenience years ago by now. If that works, great. If
not, time to look for another handset (or to reflash this one :-) ).
Anyway, many thanks for letting me compare notes with you. Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:01:51 -0500, "tycho" <this@wont-work.com> wrote:
>BIG WARNING: every "N" attempts at doing the above breaks, and/or is
>intercepted, and I end up back at the MSN homescreen. That just happened
>when I attempted to select the google "terms of service" link. This
>problem, from what I have read, can only be fixed by installing a different
>WAP proxy. Not for me. Perhaps you can go that road.
Is the resistance because there are no other available proxies for you
to try, or is it something else?
I'm only following this thread casually, but I noticed early on where
it was discussed HOW to change the proxy address, but I didn't see any
suggestion of what to change it to.
"Paul Miner" <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:01:51 -0500, "tycho" <this@wont-work.com> wrote:
>
>>BIG WARNING: every "N" attempts at doing the above breaks, and/or is
>>intercepted, and I end up back at the MSN homescreen. That just happened
>>when I attempted to select the google "terms of service" link. This
>>problem, from what I have read, can only be fixed by installing a
>>different
>>WAP proxy. Not for me. Perhaps you can go that road.
>
> Is the resistance because there are no other available proxies for you
> to try, or is it something else?
>
> I'm only following this thread casually, but I noticed early on where
> it was discussed HOW to change the proxy address, but I didn't see any
> suggestion of what to change it to.
The problem is no-or-limited other available proxies.
Early on in the thread there was discussion about changing from the default
VZW proxy to the one that works with PagePlus. The later was identified
("ppcgw1.vzwreseller.com") and it is the one that produces the results that
you have been reading about. The original VZW proxy (can't recall what it
is) will not work at all on a VZW phone that has been moved to PagePlus.
Q.: Verizon Moto RAZR V3m -- activating on PP -- set-up details? 
, tinkering with the RAZR cost just 18 cents. Thus, if this
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