Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better service and
there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or what you use it
for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
"Dave Rudisill" <denali@alaska.net> wrote in message
news:iqj0l3ppor04mmd50n416bur9ganlh118b@4ax.com...
>I see there is some new text related to the 5 GB limit..
>
> "If usage exceeds 5 GB/line/month, we reserve the right to reduce
> throughput speeds to a maximum of approximately 200 Kbps."
>
> <http://support.vzw.com/features/data_services/broadband_national_access.html>
> or
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfovwy
>
> --
> Dave
Jar-Jar Binks wrote:
> Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better service
> and there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or what
> you use it for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
>
I found this response interesting as I just saw a report on electronics
gadgets for holiday gifts on CNN, and they were pretty clear in saying that
Sprint had the worst record for call service.
Carl wrote:
> Jar-Jar Binks wrote:
>> Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better service
>> and there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or what
>> you use it for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
>>
> I found this response interesting as I just saw a report on electronics
> gadgets for holiday gifts on CNN, and they were pretty clear in saying that
> Sprint had the worst record for call service.
They're pretty horrible for voice calls, especially out in California,
but they have a good data network for 3G.
"Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote in
news:2q_3j.23983$ck5.1382@newsfe09.phx:
> Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better
service
> and there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or
what you
> use it for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
>
>
My Alltel ROKR Z6M counts every byte I use. Today, it reads
12.8GB since I reset it last month. How high is your byte
counter, just for grins and giggles?...(c;
We need to establish some kind of reward to The Bandwidth King,
the guy who sucks the most data milk out of Sellulars' tits.
Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems? http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
Jar-Jar Binks wrote:
> Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better service and
> there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or what you use it
> for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
>
>
I will agree on the no restriction part but in the areas I routinely
travel Verizon also has a much better data network.
REALLY!? When did you test Sprint in California. I am in Southern California
and they are equal-to or superior-to Verizon in the LA, Orange, Riverside,
and San Bernadino County areas.In fact, here in Laguna Niguel at my home,
Verizon doesn't provide service but Sprint provides full signal. I was a
Verizon customer for 10 years (it was Airtouch back then). Went with Sprint
and never looked back because Verizon couldn't provide service at my new
home. Also, I can force my phone to "roam" on verizon "at will" reglardless
of the quality of the Sprint signal. Sprint also doesn't cripple their
phones so you can install real browsers like Opera Mini on your phone. You
can't do that on a Verizon phone. Therefore I have the best of both worlds.
I can use Sprint, but if for some reason I want to use Verizon (Verizon has
the best coverage in Hawaii), I can force my phone with a menu option to
roam on Verizon and stay on Verizon. Interesting huh!? I have the best of
both worlds. Also several magazines have done comparisons of the data
service and Sprint comes out ontop. Not to mention nights starting at 7PM
for no charge and nights starting at 6PM for $5.
Sprint is really something to think about. If you haven't tried Sprint in
the past several years, please don't comment. Since Sprint purchased Nextel
they added their CDMA equipment to most of the existing Nextel towers and
really improved their coverage. Here is SoCal Sprint coverage is tops!
-jar-jar
"SMS ???. ?" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:47508a8e$0$84175$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> Jar-Jar Binks wrote:
>>> Go with Sprint for data. Tests shows that they provide better service
>>> and there is "NO LIMIT" on the amount of data that you use or what
>>> you use it for. You can even run a webserver if you want.
>>>
>> I found this response interesting as I just saw a report on electronics
>> gadgets for holiday gifts on CNN, and they were pretty clear in saying
>> that Sprint had the worst record for call service.
>
> They're pretty horrible for voice calls, especially out in California, but
> they have a good data network for 3G.
"Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote in news:3964j.24011
$ck5.6406@newsfe09.phx:
> Sprint also doesn't cripple their
> phones so you can install real browsers like Opera Mini on your
phone.
Jar, which phone are you running Opera Mini on? Is it a Brew
system phone? I can't get it to install on a MotoROKR Z6M
slidephone. It's not really important as I use Opera 8 for Maemo
Linux on my Nokia N800, only using the phone for a BT DUN
connection to EVDO, but it would be nice to have Opera Mini on
the phone itself at times.
Great comments on Sprint. Sprint also works fine in the highly
populated areas of South Carolina, roaming into Alltel's great
rural system if you have a trimode phone it can call Alltel on on
800 Mhz. Sprint is a PCS carrier here, so their footprint is
quite small and non-existant in rural areas. With Alltel's
roaming, it's quite acceptable. I'm an Alltel customer because
they have the smoothest coverage and best service in South
Carolina.
Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems? http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:18:55 -0800, "Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote:
>REALLY!? When did you test Sprint in California. I am in Southern California
>and they are equal-to or superior-to Verizon in the LA, Orange, Riverside,
>and San Bernadino County areas.In fact, here in Laguna Niguel at my home,
>Verizon doesn't provide service but Sprint provides full signal.....
>Here is SoCal Sprint coverage is tops!
Well, your personal case where only Sprint provides coverage at your home is one
thing.
But in general?
Let's see, my January 2008 Consumer Reports arrived yesterday. Several
California cities were specifically rated.
Let's start up north... San Francisco: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
San Diego: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
Los Angeles: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
Their general comments:
"Sprint. Bottom-ranked of carriers we rate. Consistently among the lowest-rated
for satisfaction, dropped calls, and customer service."
"In our survey, Alltel, T-Mobile, and Verizon were the better choices in a bad
lot for customer service. Only about 40 percent of their customers said these
companies were very helpful... But only 21 percent of Sprint customers said the
same thing. Sprint made news last summer when it terminated 1,000 subscribers
for complaining too much about the service. Roni Singleton, a Sprint
representative, says, "....it gets to the point where you say these customers
may be better off somewhere else."
"In some cases, Sprint extended the [customer's] contract when customers called
to complain or to get new batteries or small repairs for the phone..."
Does that sound like a company anyone would want to deal with?
Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2007-11-30, SMS 斯蒂文• å¤ <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Carl wrote:
>
>> They're pretty horrible for voice calls, especially out in California,
>
> Depends which part of California. In greater Los Angeles, although their
> footprint is not as large as Verizon's, the call quality is very good.
I don't live in Southern California, but my nephew does, and he's had
terrible coverage in the parts of the L.A. area where he lives and
works. In Orange County, Verizon is much better than Sprint.
> Well, your personal case where only Sprint provides coverage at your home is one
> thing.
>
> But in general?
>
> Let's see, my January 2008 Consumer Reports arrived yesterday. Several
> California cities were specifically rated.
>
> Let's start up north... San Francisco: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
>
> San Diego: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
>
> Los Angeles: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
Sprint's problems in California are often caused by a combination of
NIMBY's and Sprint's operation at 1900 MHz. The city I live in is a
microcosm of the rest of the state. T-Mobile and Sprint have terrible
coverage because they have not been able to install all the towers they
need to provide equivalent coverage to AT&T and Verizon. they need far
more towers because 1900 MHz doesn't provide the range that 800 MHz
provides, and because 1900 MHz penetrates into buildings less well.
In my town the subscriber breakdown, based on a recent survey by the
city (which is trying to address the complaints about coverage) were:
44% Verizon
38% AT&T
7% Sprint
6% T-Mobile
The rest are MVNO customers but the people doing the survey were too
dumb to know how to allocate the remaining respondents.
Of course many of the same people complaining about Sprint and T-Mobile
coverage are the ones that vehemently oppose any towers within view of
their houses.
To T-Mobile's credit, they freely admit their coverage problems. Sprint
does not.
On Dec 1, 8:17 am, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:18:55 -0800, "Jar-Jar Binks" <jar...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >REALLY!? When did you test Sprint in California. I am in Southern California
> >and they are equal-to or superior-to Verizon in the LA, Orange, Riverside,
> >and San Bernadino County areas.In fact, here in Laguna Niguel at my home,
> >Verizon doesn't provide service but Sprint provides full signal.....
> >Here is SoCal Sprint coverage is tops!
>
> Well, your personal case where only Sprint provides coverage at your home is one
> thing.
>
> But in general?
>
> Let's see, my January 2008 Consumer Reports arrived yesterday. Several
> California cities were specifically rated.
>
> Let's start up north... San Francisco: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
>
> San Diego: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
>
> Los Angeles: Sprint rated last. Decisively.
>
> Their general comments:
>
> "Sprint. Bottom-ranked of carriers we rate. Consistently among the lowest-rated
> for satisfaction, dropped calls, and customer service."
>
> "In our survey, Alltel, T-Mobile, and Verizon were the better choices in a bad
> lot for customer service. Only about 40 percent of their customers said these
> companies were very helpful... But only 21 percent of Sprint customers said the
> same thing. Sprint made news last summer when it terminated 1,000 subscribers
> for complaining too much about the service. Roni Singleton, a Sprint
> representative, says, "....it gets to the point where you say these customers
> may be better off somewhere else."
>
> "In some cases, Sprint extended the [customer's] contract when customers called
> to complain or to get new batteries or small repairs for the phone..."
>
> Does that sound like a company anyone would want to deal with?
>
> -- Larry
There's no way that Sprint should have rated last in Los Angeles or
many of those other markets. Sprint is easily top 2 in LA (if we're
talking only about CDMA coverage and not other things) and these
consumer reports surveys should be taken as a grain of salt. Sprint
has a very well built out system in LA and are actually quite popular
in this market. In fact Sprint beats all other carrier's hands down
in the tough to cover Hollywood Hills, Beverly Hills and Malibu
areas. Sprint has also added hundreds of new cell sites which are
referred to as "synergy sites". That's where they add CDMA to
existing Nextel towers where ever they need some improvement on the
CDMA side. Sprint has been able to easily expand and beef up their
CDMA network as a result of the Nextel merger and have also expanded
their coverage faster than any other carrier over the past 2 years.
These surveys are based more on other things such as old negative
perception, bad customer service experiences and overall negative
fallout as a result of the merger. Give Sprint better customer
service and a better marketing stratedgy and you will find that their
coverage will also suddenly be a lot better as well. Sprint has a lot
of problems within the company but coverage on the CDMA side is not
one of them (especially here in LA, OC and the Inland Empire).
If anyone would actully take the time to thoroughly do a fair and
unbiased comparison of the CURRENT sprint service in the LA/Orange
County area they might just be surprised to find out that Sprint is on
par or better than the other carriers. These surveys also have a
tendency to interview people who aren't even current customers and
base their findings on their experiences from 2 or 3 years ago. I
find it really amusing when people buy into the whole consumer reports
crap.
I have used a Motorola Razr and am currently using a Motorola Krzr. Sprint
phones are not "Brew Phones". Opera Mini is really a great application
especially since the latest release that allows you to easily browse normal
non-wap webpages. Sprint has great roaming agreement with Alltel and Alltel
provides excellent coverage. It is also a well known fact that Sprint
provided the best roaming of any cell phone provider. Therefore, there is
more of a chance that my Sprint phone will get a usable signal wherever I am
located in the USA.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99F96E5E82680noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote in news:3964j.24011
> $ck5.6406@newsfe09.phx:
>
>> Sprint also doesn't cripple their
>> phones so you can install real browsers like Opera Mini on your
> phone.
>
> Jar, which phone are you running Opera Mini on? Is it a Brew
> system phone? I can't get it to install on a MotoROKR Z6M
> slidephone. It's not really important as I use Opera 8 for Maemo
> Linux on my Nokia N800, only using the phone for a BT DUN
> connection to EVDO, but it would be nice to have Opera Mini on
> the phone itself at times.
>
> Great comments on Sprint. Sprint also works fine in the highly
> populated areas of South Carolina, roaming into Alltel's great
> rural system if you have a trimode phone it can call Alltel on on
> 800 Mhz. Sprint is a PCS carrier here, so their footprint is
> quite small and non-existant in rural areas. With Alltel's
> roaming, it's quite acceptable. I'm an Alltel customer because
> they have the smoothest coverage and best service in South
> Carolina.
>
> Larry
> --
> Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
> you're downloads threaten their networks......
> ....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
> http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
On 2007-12-03, Jar-Jar Binks <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I have used a Motorola Razr and am currently using a Motorola Krzr. Sprint
> phones are not "Brew Phones".
No, they aren't.
Alltel and Verizon use BREW for their mobile apps.
Cingular, T-Mobile and Sprint use Java.
"Jar-Jar Binks" <jarjar@nospam.com> wrote in
news:SrK4j.94$db7.38@newsfe12.phx:
> Therefore, there is
> more of a chance that my Sprint phone will get a usable signal
> wherever I am located in the USA.
>
Thanks for the info. Being able to combine the three carriers on
Alltel makes their national footprint far superior to Verizon's
which prevents in-market roaming since the late 1990's. My VZW
Sellphone used to roam onto Alltel a lot around Charleston when I
got my first Moto 725 CDMA/AMPS digital-analog pocketphone.
Letting VZW talk me into the 725 off my bagphone was a mistake.
They weren't ready for digital primetime, yet, and I suffered for
it, especially in the country where it tried to roam AMPS onto
Alltel's better rural systems and failed, miserably.
Sprint in SC is a PCS carrier, so their market footprint is tiny
areas around Myrtle Beach and the 4 major cities with
interconnecting strings along the interconnecting interstates.
It roams on Alltel CDMA (or AMPS if you have a trimode phone) in
the country once the PCS signal quickly fades away. They still
work with the roaming light blinking just fine.
Alltel phones roam onto VZW in some holes above Clinton, SC, up
to TN. I only know of one hole along the coast, the road to
Edisto Beach just S of Charleston where I have a few church
customers and plug my phone into the 3W linear and 9db antenna
atop my stepvan, restoring service. POWER is our FRIEND, in the
country.
Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems? http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
"SMS 斯蒂文• 夏" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:47518c82$0$84214$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Steve Sobol wrote:
>> On 2007-11-30, SMS 斯蒂文• å¤ <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> Carl wrote:
>>
>>> They're pretty horrible for voice calls, especially out in California,
>>
>> Depends which part of California. In greater Los Angeles, although their
>> footprint is not as large as Verizon's, the call quality is very good.
>
> I don't live in Southern California, but my nephew does, and he's had
> terrible coverage in the parts of the L.A. area where he lives and works.
> In Orange County, Verizon is much better than Sprint.
>
> Just look at all the surveys.
i worked for sprint and now am at verizon they do have better internet
connection on there phones then verizon but horrible voice service and
the whole you can use the net for anything you want on sprint is not
true if you get cought using your phone as a modem with out that added
feature they will cancell your service if they see it and the 5GB on
verizon if your just using it for email and to surf the web day to day
you will never hit that limit and i use my phone net hours on end
through out the day
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