Re: Full Time RV'ers

vagabond wrote:
> I know there are several fulltime RV'ers in this group and I
> wonder if any of you use mail forwarding services based in Texas
> or South Dakota to establish you "permanent address". The
> reason I ask is that the "Taxes, Governmental Surcharges and
> Fees" that Verizon passes along are based on your billing
> address. Just curious what that amount would be if you billing
> address is in a remote are of South Dakota. I'm not going to
> have a permanent base so Verizon (they tell me) will use the
> last address on record.
>
> cheers,
>
> --jerry

Your last address on record will likely be the billing address for a
credit card, or the bank account for automatic withdrawal or checking.
Mail forwarding has no impact on your fixed financial billing address.

Ask Verizon. They will not contract with you without a fixed financial
billing address, verified by credit card or checking account addresses.

Q

Quaoar wrote:
> vagabond wrote:
>> I know there are several fulltime RV'ers in this group and I wonder if
>> any of you use mail forwarding services based in Texas or South Dakota
>> to establish you "permanent address". The reason I ask is that the
>> "Taxes, Governmental Surcharges and Fees" that Verizon passes along
>> are based on your billing address. Just curious what that amount
>> would be if you billing address is in a remote are of South Dakota.
>> I'm not going to have a permanent base so Verizon (they tell me) will
>> use the last address on record.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> --jerry
>
> Your last address on record will likely be the billing address for a
> credit card, or the bank account for automatic withdrawal or checking.
> Mail forwarding has no impact on your fixed financial billing address.
>
> Ask Verizon. They will not contract with you without a fixed financial
> billing address, verified by credit card or checking account addresses.
>
> Q
I'm sorry Q, but you are wrong. I was a full-time RVer with a mail
forwarding address in Texas when I purchased my first Verizon phone in
2000 at a store in California. They did want the address of someone
local as a back up in case I didn't pay my bill. Though the phone had a
California number, the billing address was my mail forwarder in
Livingston, TX. All of my mail, including my credit card bills, bank
statements, went to that address. It was on my drivers license and I
used it as my address when I filed my income taxes with the IRS.

I found it easier to have Verizon charge my Visa card. If there was a
problem when the bill caught up with us, we straightened it out.

We remained full-time RVers until 2005 and Verizon never had a problem
with us. I know thousands of others who have Verizon phones and
addresses in South Dakota, Florida and Texas. Verizon does not require a
fixed residence for wireless service. Never has.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Thu, 31 May 2007 17:03:36 -0600, Quaoar <quaoar@marcabfleet.com>
wrote:

>Ask Verizon. They will not contract with you without a fixed financial
>billing address, verified by credit card or checking account addresses.

They don't verify anything by credit card or checking accounts. For
identification purposes, they asked me for my driver's license, and I
gave them my mailing (PO box) address. That was all. As long as I
paid my bill, I don't really think they gave a rip.

Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:465f6501$0$30504$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

<snip ...>

> I was a full-time RVer with
> a mail forwarding address in Texas when I purchased my
> first Verizon phone in 2000 at a store in California. They
> did want the address of someone local as a back up in case
> I didn't pay my bill. Though the phone had a California
> number, the billing address was my mail forwarder in
> Livingston, TX. All of my mail, including my credit card
> bills, bank statements, went to that address. It was on my
> drivers license and I used it as my address when I filed my
> income taxes with the IRS.
>

Janet, I'm curious. Does the mail forwarder in Texas have some
sort of special status that allows you to claim their address as
your legal residence or could I accomplish the same thing using
the address of a relative? Also, I take it you had to
physically go to Texas to get your drivers license (and
periodically return to renew)?

cheers,

--jerry

Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in news:465f6501$0$30504
$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> I know thousands of others who have Verizon phones and
> addresses in South Dakota, Florida and Texas. Verizon does not require a
> fixed residence for wireless service. Never has.
>

I know liveaboard yachties whos address is in exotic places, like St
Kitts/Nevis or Belize. They all have American cellphones, like Verizon.
For convenience, many are on autopay through their credit cards, but many
are not.

Larry
--
Warning - South Carolina's sales tax went up ANOTHER 1% today,
so that rich people with big houses could get reduced taxes.

vagabond wrote:

> Janet, I'm curious. Does the mail forwarder in Texas have some
> sort of special status that allows you to claim their address as
> your legal residence or could I accomplish the same thing using
> the address of a relative? Also, I take it you had to
> physically go to Texas to get your drivers license (and
> periodically return to renew)?

You could use the address of a relative. I don't believe there are any
states where you don't have to appear in person to get your license.
Texas permits renewal on the internet or by mail. South Dakota requires
in-person. I'm not sure about Florida. A good place for this information
is on the Escapees RV Club, Inc. discussion forums. www.escapees.com

The one thing that the Texas address (Escapees RV Club, Inc.'s mail
forwarding service) had that no other service has is that it has been
adjudicated as a legal address for voting by 2 state courts.

Texas, South Dakota and Florida are all popular states for full-time
RVers because they have no state income tax. If one can, under the US
Constitution, decide their own domicile, why not decide upon one that is
tax-friendly?

Establishing domicile is not very difficult and one will not face any
difficulties as long as one has all of their ducks in order. Drivers
license and registration in the same state as your mailing address is
important. It's recommended that you have a local bank account (we
didn't) and that you vote regularly even if it's by absentee ballot and
you only check one box. Use the address for social security and Federal
income tax.

If you are contemplating becoming a full time RVer, I highly recommend
The Escapees. The information and support are well worth the dues. Their
mail forwarding service is the largest in the US and we've had it for
over 11 years. We have never had a problem on their side. The few
problems were with the US Postal Service.

Janet
SKP #37269

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Dave Rudisill wrote:

> To make it even MORE complicated, just because one state allows you to
> register to votes there doesn't mean that another state can't legally
> require you to pay their state income tax on money you earn while there.
>

You will always have to pay a non-resident state income tax if you earn
money in a state that has an income tax. If you don't live in a state,
it's pretty hard for them to tax your income coming from sources outside
of that state.

I don't think it was at all complicated. We had residences in both South
Dakota and Texas. South Dakota doesn't "allow" you to use a campground
as a address for voting. It's a work-around because a mail forwarding
service is not legal for voting in SD. The state doesn't bother anyone
about it, but it's really not totally by the book.

It's best to look at all of the factors on a state by state basis for
your personal situation. For example, insurance will be more or less in
a particular state depending upon whether you have a motorized unit or a
towable unit. It's an individual choice and can't be made on
recommendation. You have to do your own research.

....and now back to cell phones...

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Janet Wilder wrote:

>
> You could use the address of a relative. I don't believe there are any
> states where you don't have to appear in person to get your license.
> Texas permits renewal on the internet or by mail. South Dakota
> requires in-person. I'm not sure about Florida.

Florida requires you to be physically there every 8 years (so they can do
the picture eye test thng), but you can renew by phone/internet after 4 (at
8 you have to go again, reminds me, 8 years is coming up, guess I'll have to
go visit my relatives there