Re: OBSCENELY large bill!!

On 10/19/2011 6:59 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<dfht97hpiqp2q2hm3vba1gisr4amm16h1o@4ax.com >,
> meh<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> A woman bought a cellphone for her deaf brother.
>>
>> He went to Canada for a month, and NO ONE told him about roaming,
>> OR turning off data.
>
> Ummmm.....are we such a nanny state that we have abdicated ANY and ALL
> responsibility for knowing how something works? That we can complain
> loudly about how "they never told me!" and EXPECT the world NOT to
> ridicule that?

Just as credit card companies notify you when there is abnormal activity
on your account, cellular providers should do the same.

The default on smart phones should be to have data roaming disabled.

The other issue is that many smart phone apps use data in the
background, often for pushing advertising, especially free apps on
Android. If you root your Android phone, you can have a setting that
specifies which apps are allowed to use data, which stops this data leakage.

You're confusing "ANY and ALL" responsibility, with reasonable
responsibility.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:35:36 -0400]:
> In article <4ea0645c$0$1668$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Ummmm.....are we such a nanny state that we have abdicated ANY and ALL
>> > responsibility for knowing how something works? That we can complain
>> > loudly about how "they never told me!" and EXPECT the world NOT to
>> > ridicule that?
>>
>> Just as credit card companies notify you when there is abnormal activity
>> on your account, cellular providers should do the same.
>
> Credit card companies, by law, are holding the bag.
>
> If you put cell phone companies into the same boat--make them
> substantiate the charges, for example, before presenting them to
> you--then maybe they, too, would notice and take action.

With NFC in the near future, they better start being held accountable

In article <elmop-4AC4C2.21085220102011@news.eternal-september.org>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty says...


> Ah, but then you wouldn't have that shiny iToy like all of your
> friends!!! But you're ENTITLED to that shiny iToy!! GIMMME!!!!

I can get a brand-new 16GB iPod Touch for $199 with no contract.

(you said iToy, you didn't specify WHICH iToy!)

(OW! Stop hitting me! OW!!!!!)



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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote on [Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:08:52 -0400]:
> In article <j7q7us$q0c$1@dont-email.me>, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >> Just as credit card companies notify you when there is abnormal activity
>> >> on your account, cellular providers should do the same.
>> >
>> > Credit card companies, by law, are holding the bag.
>> >
>> > If you put cell phone companies into the same boat--make them
>> > substantiate the charges, for example, before presenting them to
>> > you--then maybe they, too, would notice and take action.
>>
>> With NFC in the near future, they better start being held accountable
>
> Dream on.
>
> Face it: lobbyists own the politicians, and the corporations will use
> any shiny penny in their arsenal to get your attention and get you to
> sign up for their products and programs.
>
> You can't win. You can't break even. All you can do is choose not to
> play their games.
>
> Ah, but then you wouldn't have that shiny iToy like all of your
> friends!!! But you're ENTITLED to that shiny iToy!! GIMMME!!!!
>

You sound like a jealous little boy.

No, I have no iToy

In article <elmop-C27AD4.21303220102011@news.eternal-september.org>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty says...

> BUT IT'S NOT AN IPHONE!!!!! HOW CAN I BE SEEN WITH MY FRIENDS UNLESS
I
> HAVE AN IPHONE!!!!!! GIMME!!!!!

Ha.

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Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
sjsobol@JustThe.net