D. Stussy wrote:
> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon specific
>> CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many companies i
>> have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>
>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling Verizon
>> Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of realizing there
>> must be a problem they have you reboot your cell, this , that, and the
>> other thing.
>
> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>
>
LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they have
coverage maps :-)
Mea culpa.
>D. Stussy wrote:
>> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
>> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon specific
>>> CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many companies i
>>> have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>>
>>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling Verizon
>>> Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of realizing there
>>> must be a problem they have you reboot your cell, this , that, and the
>>> other thing.
>>
>> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>>
>>
>LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
>I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they have
>coverage maps :-)
>Mea culpa.
The Verizon Online group is for Verizon (landline) broadband internet
service. Your question is very much on topic here in
alt.cellular.verizon. Unfortunately, I know of no site which will let
you search for specific cell provider sites. The closest you will
come is looking through tower registration databases. But since the
providers lease space from the tower management companies, it can
often be a guessing game.
But here is a list of tower companies I compiled some time back.
"The Ghost of General Lee" <ghost@general.lee> wrote in message
news:fmmct5pnf1g9fokn36q6ejl3p95sh2qgje@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:05:29 -0400, Raoul Watson
> <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote:
>
>>D. Stussy wrote:
>>> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon specific
>>>> CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many companies i
>>>> have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>>>
>>>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling Verizon
>>>> Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of realizing
>>>> there
>>>> must be a problem they have you reboot your cell, this , that, and the
>>>> other thing.
>>>
>>> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>>>
>>>
>>LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
>>I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they have
>>coverage maps :-)
>>Mea culpa.
>
> The Verizon Online group is for Verizon (landline) broadband internet
> service. Your question is very much on topic here in
> alt.cellular.verizon. Unfortunately, I know of no site which will let
> you search for specific cell provider sites. The closest you will
> come is looking through tower registration databases. But since the
> providers lease space from the tower management companies, it can
> often be a guessing game.
>
> But here is a list of tower companies I compiled some time back.
>
> http://www.crowncastle.com/
> http://www.nwconline.com/
> http://www.sbasite.com/
> http://www.americantower.com/atcweb
I suggest that instead of trying to call Verizon Wireless customer service
you log on to your "My Verizon" page and send them an email. I did that a
couple of years ago and actually got a call from Verizon Wireless technical
service. They helped my line up the antenna for the cellular repeater that
I installed so I could get better coverage in my house. My original calls
to customer service didn't have very good results but the email explaining
what I needed worked fine.
Raoul Watson <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in
news:hr5k9q$d4v$1@news.eternal-september.org:
> D. Stussy wrote:
>> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
>> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon
>>> specific CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many
>>> companies i have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>>
>>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling
>>> Verizon Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of
>>> realizing there must be a problem they have you reboot your cell,
>>> this , that, and the other thing.
>>
>> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>>
>>
> LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
> I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they
> have coverage maps :-)
> Mea culpa.
>
Raoul Watson <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in
news:hr5k9q$d4v$1@news.eternal-september.org:
> D. Stussy wrote:
>> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
>> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon
>>> specific CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many
>>> companies i have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>>
>>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling
>>> Verizon Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of
>>> realizing there must be a problem they have you reboot your cell,
>>> this , that, and the other thing.
>>
>> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>>
>>
> LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
> I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they
> have coverage maps :-)
> Mea culpa.
>
You might also use the ULS, Universal Licensing System to find the
actual cellular license of Verizon or Cellco Partnerships for your city.
When you open their license record, click on the LOCATIONS tabs. The
URL above is for their system license KMKA205 in market CMA-026 in
Phoenix, AZ.
The lat/long of every transmitter in the system is conveniently located
for you on their very license form, as in:
Location 1 Fixed
Arrow Location 1 Details Coordinates
17022 N. 61ST AVENUE
GLENDALE, AZ
MARICOPA County
33-38-23.1 N , 112-11-31.6 W
Location 2 Fixed
Arrow Location 2 Details Coordinates
7620 E. JOMAX ROAD
SCOTTSDALE, AZ
MARICOPA County
33-43-37.1 N , 111-55-00.5 W
Location 3 Fixed
Arrow Location 3 Details Coordinates
13001 N. 175TH AVENUE
WADDELL, AZ
MARICOPA County
33-36-09.1 N , 112-26-06.6 W
Location 4 Fixed
Arrow Location 4 Details Coordinates
1701 S. 94TH AVENUE
TOLLESON, AZ
MARICOPA County
33-25-52.2 N , 112-15-44.6 W
Their license is modified with a new application to get a building
permit from FCC to expand their system. Those go into the FCC Register
with the Commission upon license modification application.
It's too bad FCC doesn't give you a KML reference to each tower to plot
them on Google Earth for you. Maybe someday....(c;]
Don't be too shocked to see how very FEW towers they actually possess
outside the vast big cities. All these companies operate their systems
on a shoestring to maximize shareholder profits, including Cellco
Partnerships, LLC.
Bet there's no tower in your area......go see.
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Raoul Watson <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in
news:hr5k9q$d4v$1@news.eternal-september.org:
> D. Stussy wrote:
>> "Raoul Watson" <WatsonR@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
>> news:hr1j5j$7jo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Is there a site that allow me to look up locations of Verizon
>>> specific CELL towers? I know of a search site but it lists so many
>>> companies i have no clue which ones are used by Verizon.
>>>
>>> Both my wife and my cell service went out this morning. Calling
>>> Verizon Wireless is just as useless as anything else. Instead of
>>> realizing there must be a problem they have you reboot your cell,
>>> this , that, and the other thing.
>>
>> Try asking on alt.cellular.verizon. Your question is off-topic here.
>>
>>
> LOL.. I know there is a topic cop roaming around here somewhere...
> I figured verizon ON-LINE service might have such a site since they
> have coverage maps :-)
> Mea culpa.
>
If you pick the tower you want and click on DETAILS, you get one of
these:
which is the details of the Verizon tower on Jomax Road in Scottsdale,
AZ. Each antenna 120 degree sector is listed as to its antenna pattern,
range, ERP (effective radiated power), etc. for you to see.
CDMA allows 24 users on a channel, times the number of channels on their
license, which I forget at the moment. The ERP listed is TOTAL power
output, not channel power output. So, to find out how much ERP is on
the particular channel you're using at the moment, you have to divide
the power by the channels to get the channel power. It isn't much to
keep it from overlapping with the next cell down the road.
--
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>>
>
> <http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...sp;JSESSIONID_
> ULSSEARCH=8xMQLWqJ6g9LTQGvzDTpPRVTsgXPTw15gFtHPy8q vJHZGNZ061yx!
> 729216367!1494039421?licKey=12936>
>
> You might also use the ULS, Universal Licensing System to find the
> actual cellular license of Verizon or Cellco Partnerships for your city.
> When you open their license record, click on the LOCATIONS tabs. The
> URL above is for their system license KMKA205 in market CMA-026 in
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
how do you perform a search for another market - like Chicago -
I wonder what shell company VZW is using in IL. I did a geosearch on
just Verizon with just IL as the target and found:
Specified Search
State = Illinois
Radio Service = CL, CW, CY, GR, GX, YC, YD, YS, YX
Name like Verizon
No matches found
They must be using another shell company name for the licensee in IL.
Cellco Partnership is the local shell company, here. Doesn't seem to
work in Chicago.
Ah, try this! On the first page of the advanced search, don't enter any
name. Click on ACTIVE so you don't see all the dead companies and
acquisitions, Click on CELLULAR LIKE on the type of radio service so it
gets all the various specialized cellphone companies then click
GEOSEARCH at the bottom. Pick Illinois from the state list, but not a
county so it will get the whole state. SEARCH and wait for it to FIND
THEM ALL! Now you have pointers to each active licensee in IL in any
Cellular-like service. Cellco Partnerships IS listed several times.
You can sort the list by NAME so the search lines them all up together
and research which NAM (location) is queer to your area. OPen the
license and click the LOCATIONS tab to see each transmitter location
licensed by FCC. You now have them all....probably....maybe....Why is
this such a problem. Who's hiding the map?!
What a huge list of cellco companies you never heard of! Verizon isn't
listed anywhere as a licensee and Cellco Partnership has no licenses in
Chicago, per se. ***??
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D6B7EA9BAC76noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>
> I wonder what shell company VZW is using in IL. I did a geosearch on
> just Verizon with just IL as the target and found:
>
> They must be using another shell company name for the licensee in IL.
>
> Cellco Partnership is the local shell company, here. Doesn't seem to
> work in Chicago.
>
> What a huge list of cellco companies you never heard of! Verizon isn't
> listed anywhere as a licensee and Cellco Partnership has no licenses in
> Chicago, per se. ***??
>
"Shell companies" is another one of your incredibly mis-informed statements.
Is absolutely everything some sort of conspiracy to you?
If you actually bothered to inform yourself about the history of most cellular licenses
and the original consortiums that obtained them you would know just how how idiotic
your above statements are.
Back in the beginning of cellular, an MSA could (many times was) made up of smaller territories.
Example: the Seattle MSA had Olympia, Tacoma, Bremerton, Everett, etc, etc. that made up the MSA.
These smaller entities actually could have a different set of licensees, so when carriers built out the
MSA, they had to form entities such as "Cellco Partnership" to actually build and run the MSA.
Then we have all of the M&A over the years...
Sorry Larry, no big conspiracy to hide something nefarious from you here.
Just a bit of business history.
"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in
news:KMednUddDYtplkPWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@giganews.com :
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D6B7EA9BAC76noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>>
>> I wonder what shell company VZW is using in IL. I did a geosearch on
>> just Verizon with just IL as the target and found:
>>
>> They must be using another shell company name for the licensee in IL.
>>
>> Cellco Partnership is the local shell company, here. Doesn't seem to
>> work in Chicago.
>>
>> What a huge list of cellco companies you never heard of! Verizon
>> isn't listed anywhere as a licensee and Cellco Partnership has no
>> licenses in Chicago, per se. ***??
>>
>
> "Shell companies" is another one of your incredibly mis-informed
> statements. Is absolutely everything some sort of conspiracy to you?
>
> If you actually bothered to inform yourself about the history of most
> cellular licenses and the original consortiums that obtained them you
> would know just how how idiotic your above statements are.
>
> Back in the beginning of cellular, an MSA could (many times was) made
> up of smaller territories. Example: the Seattle MSA had Olympia,
> Tacoma, Bremerton, Everett, etc, etc. that made up the MSA. These
> smaller entities actually could have a different set of licensees, so
> when carriers built out the MSA, they had to form entities such as
> "Cellco Partnership" to actually build and run the MSA.
>
> Then we have all of the M&A over the years...
>
> Sorry Larry, no big conspiracy to hide something nefarious from you
> here. Just a bit of business history.
>
Oh **** you....how's that....
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On 5/2/2010 7:34 PM, Ness-Net wrote:
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D6B7EA9BAC76noonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>>
>> I wonder what shell company VZW is using in IL. I did a geosearch on
>> just Verizon with just IL as the target and found:
>>
>> They must be using another shell company name for the licensee in IL.
>>
>> Cellco Partnership is the local shell company, here. Doesn't seem to
>> work in Chicago.
>>
>> What a huge list of cellco companies you never heard of! Verizon isn't
>> listed anywhere as a licensee and Cellco Partnership has no licenses
>> in Chicago, per se. ***??
>>
>
> "Shell companies" is another one of your incredibly mis-informed
> statements.
> Is absolutely everything some sort of conspiracy to you?
I doubt he will ever admit what twisted him so badly. But he is good for
a laugh and definitely a waste of time to engage because he is
absolutely convinced his bizarre ideas are correct.
>
> If you actually bothered to inform yourself about the history of most
> cellular licenses
> and the original consortiums that obtained them you would know just how
> how idiotic your above statements are.
>
> Back in the beginning of cellular, an MSA could (many times was) made up
> of smaller territories.
> Example: the Seattle MSA had Olympia, Tacoma, Bremerton, Everett, etc,
> etc. that made up the MSA.
> These smaller entities actually could have a different set of licensees,
> so when carriers built out the
> MSA, they had to form entities such as "Cellco Partnership" to actually
> build and run the MSA.
>
> Then we have all of the M&A over the years...
> Sorry Larry, no big conspiracy to hide something nefarious from you
> here. Just a bit of business history.
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9D6CD53B75D9Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>> If you actually bothered to inform yourself about the history of most
>>> cellular licenses and the original consortiums that obtained them you
>>> would know just how how idiotic your above statements are.
>>>
>>> Back in the beginning of cellular, an MSA could (many times was) made
>>> up of smaller territories. Example: the Seattle MSA had Olympia,
>>> Tacoma, Bremerton, Everett, etc, etc. that made up the MSA. These
>>> smaller entities actually could have a different set of licensees, so
>>> when carriers built out the MSA, they had to form entities such as
>>> "Cellco Partnership" to actually build and run the MSA.
>>>
>>> Then we have all of the M&A over the years...
>>>
>>> Sorry Larry, no big conspiracy to hide something nefarious from you
>>> here. Just a bit of business history.
>>>
>> Oh **** you....how's that....
>
> So now we know what happens when you lift up Larry's foil hat just a
> teeny bit and inject some reality underneath.
You got reality all over the floor! Did you expect something else?
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D6CD53B75D9Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>
> Oh **** you....how's that....
>
My.... what an articulate response.
It must have taken a great deal of thought...?
Ness-Net wrote:
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D6CD53B75D9Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13...
>>
>> Oh **** you....how's that....
>>
> My.... what an articulate response.
> It must have taken a great deal of thought...?
I wonder how many towers they have in Griffin, Georgia? I am blind and
can't see the maps or anything, and can't tell if they are on the
northside of Griffin or not.
Dana wrote:
> I wonder how many towers they have in Griffin, Georgia? I am blind and
> can't see the maps or anything, and can't tell if they are on the
> northside of Griffin or not.
>
You should not concern yourself with towers!
What you really care about is coverage! Can you make or receive a call
in any place you are likely to be?
If you can do that, you can hardly ask for better! If not, you need to
talk to Verizon Wireless about the problem.
Also note that not all cell phone base station antennas LOOK like
antennas. In sensitive areas considerable effort is made to make
antennas less noticeable!
Finally, you can buy and install a cellphone repeater that uses a high
gain directional antenna pointed at the nearest tower and will give you
coverage in a limited area. You may be able to share the cost with
several of your neighbors if they have problems similar to yours.
Oh, I get a pretty good signal where I am, just curious how close we are
to a tower.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Dana wrote:
>> I wonder how many towers they have in Griffin, Georgia? I am blind and
>> can't see the maps or anything, and can't tell if they are on the northside
>> of Griffin or not.
>>
>
> You should not concern yourself with towers!
>
> What you really care about is coverage! Can you make or receive a call in
> any place you are likely to be?
>
> If you can do that, you can hardly ask for better! If not, you need to talk
> to Verizon Wireless about the problem.
>
> Also note that not all cell phone base station antennas LOOK like antennas.
> In sensitive areas considerable effort is made to make antennas less
> noticeable!
>
> Finally, you can buy and install a cellphone repeater that uses a high gain
> directional antenna pointed at the nearest tower and will give you coverage
> in a limited area. You may be able to share the cost with several of your
> neighbors if they have problems similar to yours.
>
>
Verry good idea. I will ask them the next time I get by the store. I am a
ham also, and just curious how far the signal travels. Thanks.
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Dana wrote:
>> Oh, I get a pretty good signal where I am, just curious how close we are to
>> a tower.
>>
>
> Your best bet might be to ask Verizon Wireless where their towers are in your
> town.
>
On 6/2/2010 9:14 PM, Dana wrote:
> Verry good idea. I will ask them the next time I get by the store. I am
> a ham also, and just curious how far the signal travels. Thanks.
>
Not very far. The design intent of a modern cell system is to use more
lower power sites. That gives much higher capacity because of frequency
reuse.
> On 6/2/2010 9:14 PM, Dana wrote:
>> Verry good idea. I will ask them the next time I get by the store. I am
>> a ham also, and just curious how far the signal travels. Thanks.
>>
>
>
> Not very far. The design intent of a modern cell system is to use more lower
> power sites. That gives much higher capacity because of frequency reuse.
>
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