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Old 04-04-2012, 10:47 PM
nobody@nada.com
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Default Replenishing Page Plus

We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
is May 1.

I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.

1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.

2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
balance.

3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
just give me a PIN to use on May 1.

Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?




h

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:00 AM
tlvp
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Default Re: Replenishing Page Plus

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:47:34 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
> is May 1.


Careful: if you count Jan 2 as "Day 0", then May 1 is "Day 120".
But if you count Jan 2 as "Day 1", then "Day 120" is April 30 :-) .
(Confirm it? Jan 31 is "Day 30", Mar 1 is "Day 60", Mar 31 is "Day 90", and
Apr 30 is "Day 120".)

> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>
> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>
> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
> balance.
>
> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>
> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?


What meh said: get a PIN anytime at all through Calling Mart. (Often their
PINs are 5% off; often SMS even announces that as a PSA in this group :-) .
And those PINs are valid for PagePlus use anytime before 12 months go by.)

Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.

And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
-- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Replenishing Page Plus

tlvp wrote on [Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400]:
>
> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .


You're supposed to tip at Starbucks?

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Old 04-05-2012, 03:48 PM
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"Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> tlvp wrote on [Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400]:
>>
>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day
>> early
>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .

>
> You're supposed to tip at Starbucks?


If you don't want them to spit in your coffee the next time...



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Old 04-05-2012, 04:29 PM
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tycho wrote on [Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:48:02 -0500]:
>
> "Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:jlkdov$r4n$1@dont-email.me...
>> tlvp wrote on [Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400]:
>>>
>>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day
>>> early
>>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .

>>
>> You're supposed to tip at Starbucks?

>
> If you don't want them to spit in your coffee the next time...


Next you'll be telling me that mcdonalds is a tip place

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Old 04-05-2012, 06:26 PM
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:47:34 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
>> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
>> is May 1.

>
>Careful: if you count Jan 2 as "Day 0", then May 1 is "Day 120".
>But if you count Jan 2 as "Day 1", then "Day 120" is April 30 :-) .
>(Confirm it? Jan 31 is "Day 30", Mar 1 is "Day 60", Mar 31 is "Day 90", and
>Apr 30 is "Day 120".)
>
>> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
>> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
>> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>>
>> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
>> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
>> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>>
>> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
>> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
>> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
>> balance.
>>
>> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
>> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>>
>> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
>> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
>> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?

>
>What meh said: get a PIN anytime at all through Calling Mart. (Often their
>PINs are 5% off; often SMS even announces that as a PSA in this group :-) .
>And those PINs are valid for PagePlus use anytime before 12 months go by.)
>
>Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>
>And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>-- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>
>Cheers, -- tlvp


Thanks. It's my wife's phone and her usage since Jan 2 is 45 minutes.
Very little risk of running out of her $25 card. In fact I will be
getting a $10 card eevery 120 days, probably forever:-)

I also found pageplusdirect.com, that offers a 4.9% discount for when
callingmart isn't offering any.

PagePlus saves us a lot of money but it's frustrating dealing with
them. Their web site and their support give conflicting info on
replenishing.

And we never go to Starbucks. My wife is Colombian so we get our
coffee directly from Juan Valdez:-)

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Old 04-06-2012, 06:26 AM
tlvp
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:26:05 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:47:34 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>
>>> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
>>> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
>>> is May 1.

>>
>>Careful: if you count Jan 2 as "Day 0", then May 1 is "Day 120".
>>But if you count Jan 2 as "Day 1", then "Day 120" is April 30 :-) .
>>(Confirm it? Jan 31 is "Day 30", Mar 1 is "Day 60", Mar 31 is "Day 90", and
>>Apr 30 is "Day 120".)
>>
>>> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
>>> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
>>> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>>>
>>> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
>>> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
>>> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>>>
>>> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
>>> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
>>> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
>>> balance.
>>>
>>> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
>>> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>>>
>>> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
>>> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
>>> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?

>>
>>What meh said: get a PIN anytime at all through Calling Mart. (Often their
>>PINs are 5% off; often SMS even announces that as a PSA in this group :-) .
>>And those PINs are valid for PagePlus use anytime before 12 months go by.)
>>
>>Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>
>>And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>-- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>>
>>Cheers, -- tlvp

>
> Thanks. It's my wife's phone and her usage since Jan 2 is 45 minutes.
> Very little risk of running out of her $25 card. In fact I will be
> getting a $10 card eevery 120 days, probably forever:-)


.... and running up a steadily increasing credit balance :-) .

> I also found pageplusdirect.com, that offers a 4.9% discount for when
> callingmart isn't offering any.
>
> PagePlus saves us a lot of money but it's frustrating dealing with
> them. Their web site and their support give conflicting info on
> replenishing.


More frustrating than that is their finance pages going silent during their
nightly accounting spree, sometimes as long as midnight to 6 am -- can't do
anything financial then, as the back end data bases just don't connect to
the html services then at all. Can't read your call history, can't load a
new PIN, can't do much more than read about plans and handsets.

My take on their support and website replenishment advice is that, but for
a bit of imprecision, they're both trying to say the same thing (and what
that is has already been spelled out by other posters here earlier).
They're neither lawyers nor mathematicians, so what they actually say is
just supposed to mean what they meant it to mean when they said it, and not
necessarily what it literally seems to be saying :-) . Can ya live w/ that?

> And we never go to Starbucks. My wife is Colombian so we get our
> coffee directly from Juan Valdez:-)


Far be it from me to be urging Starbucks on anyone ... or McD's.

So: "Nada otra cosa que Juan Valdez" for you, eh :-) ? Bravo! Cheers,
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. -- tlvp

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Old 04-06-2012, 08:25 AM
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 02:26:51 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:26:05 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:00:18 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:47:34 -0700, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
>>>> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
>>>> is May 1.
>>>
>>>Careful: if you count Jan 2 as "Day 0", then May 1 is "Day 120".
>>>But if you count Jan 2 as "Day 1", then "Day 120" is April 30 :-) .
>>>(Confirm it? Jan 31 is "Day 30", Mar 1 is "Day 60", Mar 31 is "Day 90", and
>>>Apr 30 is "Day 120".)
>>>
>>>> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
>>>> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
>>>> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>>>>
>>>> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
>>>> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
>>>> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>>>>
>>>> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
>>>> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
>>>> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
>>>> balance.
>>>>
>>>> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
>>>> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>>>>
>>>> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
>>>> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
>>>> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?
>>>
>>>What meh said: get a PIN anytime at all through Calling Mart. (Often their
>>>PINs are 5% off; often SMS even announces that as a PSA in this group :-) .
>>>And those PINs are valid for PagePlus use anytime before 12 months go by.)
>>>
>>>Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>>out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>>belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>>
>>>And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>>-- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>>>
>>>Cheers, -- tlvp

>>
>> Thanks. It's my wife's phone and her usage since Jan 2 is 45 minutes.
>> Very little risk of running out of her $25 card. In fact I will be
>> getting a $10 card eevery 120 days, probably forever:-)

>
>... and running up a steadily increasing credit balance :-) .
>
>> I also found pageplusdirect.com, that offers a 4.9% discount for when
>> callingmart isn't offering any.
>>
>> PagePlus saves us a lot of money but it's frustrating dealing with
>> them. Their web site and their support give conflicting info on
>> replenishing.

>
>More frustrating than that is their finance pages going silent during their
>nightly accounting spree, sometimes as long as midnight to 6 am -- can't do
>anything financial then, as the back end data bases just don't connect to
>the html services then at all. Can't read your call history, can't load a
>new PIN, can't do much more than read about plans and handsets.
>
>My take on their support and website replenishment advice is that, but for
>a bit of imprecision, they're both trying to say the same thing (and what
>that is has already been spelled out by other posters here earlier).
>They're neither lawyers nor mathematicians, so what they actually say is
>just supposed to mean what they meant it to mean when they said it, and not
>necessarily what it literally seems to be saying :-) . Can ya live w/ that?
>

Not much choice.

"They're neither lawyers nor mathematicians"

Nor, apparently, native speakers of English.

>> And we never go to Starbucks. My wife is Colombian so we get our
>> coffee directly from Juan Valdez:-)

>
>Far be it from me to be urging Starbucks on anyone ... or McD's.
>
>So: "Nada otra cosa que Juan Valdez" for you, eh :-) ? Bravo! Cheers,


My wife's brother-in-law works for the Colombia governemnt's Coffee
Council (or whatever it is in Spanish) and we do get the primo stuff.

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Old 04-06-2012, 12:24 PM
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
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On 4/4/12 6:47 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
> is May 1.
>
> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>
> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>
> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
> balance.
>
> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>
> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?
>
>
>
>
> h


Nah, save yourself a lot of angst.

Check your online account to see what the expiry date is-- and just
refill it the day before. Yeah, you lose a day but that's only about 8
cents on a $10 card and 21 cents on a $25 card. No doubt the A.C.V.
whiner/*****ers will rail about that. Let them vent but compare those
pennies against getting ripped by Verizon every month;-)

--
You're all worthless and weak. Now drop and give me 20.

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Old 04-06-2012, 04:06 PM
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"Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote in message
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> On 4/4/12 6:47 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> We activated and started our first standard plan on Jan 2. My account
>> on line says the balance expires on May 19. The 120th day after Jan 2
>> is May 1.
>>
>> I called Page Plus and asked 3 questions and got answers I don't
>> believe (since their support request process on line is broken). Maybe
>> someone here can tell me is they are correct or not.
>>
>> 1) They told me that May 19 balance expiration
>> date is meaningless (so why tell me?) That I have to replenish on or
>> before May 1 to not loose any rollover balance.
>>
>> 2) To maximize my benefit of the 120 day policy and rollove the
>> balance I have to replenish exactly on May1. If I do it earlier I lose
>> part of my 120 day period. If I do it later I lose my rollover
>> balance.
>>
>> 3) If I replenish through them, the 120 days starts now. They don't
>> just give me a PIN to use on May 1.
>>
>> Something about these responses defies logic so I though I would
>> check. What's the best way to replenish without losing either the
>> rollover or lose part of the 120 day period forever?
>>
>> h

>
> Nah, save yourself a lot of angst.
>
> Check your online account to see what the expiry date is-- and just refill
> it the day before. Yeah, you lose a day but that's only about 8 cents on a
> $10 card and 21 cents on a $25 card. No doubt the A.C.V. whiner/*****ers
> will rail about that. Let them vent but compare those pennies against
> getting ripped by Verizon every month;-)


I'm with you, Neidermeyer. Much ado about nothing.

I now have 2 and have had as many as 4 different PP cell phones, and have
never had a problem buying and applying standard-plan PINs to any of them.
I get my PINs from PP, CallingMart, and Kitty -- whoever has the deal du
jour. I've only ever applied a PIN within 24 hours of the time my $$$ was
about to expire, so I've never run into the problems and frustration
experienced by nobody@nada.com. I've know from the beginning that if I
apply anything other than an $80 card, I have 120 days of use (the $80 gives
me a year. I know my one phone on an $80 card expires on May 9, for
example). So, I put a reminder on my calendar to replenish that account in
119 (or, 364) days. I know from reading the Kitty website that your
remaining balance could expire at =any unpredictable time= on the
120th/365th day, so I don't gamble with applying a PIN on the day of
expiration.

Simple. Brainless, really. And what minor annoyances there might be are
VASTLY compensated for by the cheap service.

Absolutely a perfect fit for me.






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Old 04-06-2012, 04:17 PM
SMS
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On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:

> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>
> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .


The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.

You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.

There is no way to set up auto-pay to add money every 120 days. The
minimum is once a month.

Of course adding $80 and having it last for a year is a good plan too,
as long as you can use up $80 per year. If it's a minimal use phone the
$80 card makes no sense.

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Old 04-07-2012, 01:10 AM
nobody@nada.com
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:
>
>> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>
>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .

>
>The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
>set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>
>You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
>118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.


Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.
>
>There is no way to set up auto-pay to add money every 120 days. The
>minimum is once a month.


Which makes is not useful for my purchases. My wife will never run out
of minutes. I'm only interested in maximizing time between payments. A
$10 card every 120 days would be perfect.
>
>Of course adding $80 and having it last for a year is a good plan too,
>as long as you can use up $80 per year. If it's a minimal use phone the
>$80 card makes no sense.


The initial card was a $25 one. I bought that much to be sure it was
enough. There's over $19 left. $10 refills should rollover enough so
we never need to buy a bigger card than $10. That puts it at $45 for
this year and $30 a year (OK 360 days) from them on.

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Old 04-07-2012, 03:11 AM
Todd Allcock
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At 06 Apr 2012 18:10:07 -0700 nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is

to
> >set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
> >date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
> >
> >You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in

at
> >118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
> >gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.

>
> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.
> >
> >There is no way to set up auto-pay to add money every 120 days. The
> >minimum is once a month.

>
> Which makes is not useful for my purchases. My wife will never run out
> of minutes. I'm only interested in maximizing time between payments. A
> $10 card every 120 days would be perfect.



Steve is suggesting using the PP auto-replenishment as a fail-safe, just
in case you forget to buy and load a pin. PP isn't as forgiving as they
used to be about restoring balances one accidentally lets lapse.


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Old 04-07-2012, 10:09 AM
nobody@nada.com
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:11:31 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>At 06 Apr 2012 18:10:07 -0700 nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is

>to
>> >set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>> >date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>> >
>> >You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in

>at
>> >118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>> >gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.

>>
>> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.
>> >
>> >There is no way to set up auto-pay to add money every 120 days. The
>> >minimum is once a month.

>>
>> Which makes is not useful for my purchases. My wife will never run out
>> of minutes. I'm only interested in maximizing time between payments. A
>> $10 card every 120 days would be perfect.

>
>
>Steve is suggesting using the PP auto-replenishment as a fail-safe, just
>in case you forget to buy and load a pin. PP isn't as forgiving as they
>used to be about restoring balances one accidentally lets lapse.


Using the auto-replenishment is more hassle than just buying a PIN and
holding it until 119 days. The auto pay insists you choose a weekly or
monthly renewal which means you'd have to cancel and redo it each time
it you used it.

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Old 04-07-2012, 01:56 PM
SMS
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On 4/6/2012 6:10 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>
>>> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>>
>>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .

>>
>> The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
>> set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>> date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>>
>> You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
>> 118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>> gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.

>
> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.


Setting up Auto-Pay to add money one day before the expiration date is
just a safety net. If you've ever forgotten to refill, it's a pain.
They'll restore half of your balance as a one time courtesy, but that's
it. I've never needed that safety net since I set it up.

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Old 04-07-2012, 04:10 PM
Todd Allcock
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At 07 Apr 2012 03:09:18 -0700 nobody@nada.com wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:11:31 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
> >At 06 Apr 2012 18:10:07 -0700 nobody@nada.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days

is
> >to
> >> >set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the

start
> >> >date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
> >> >
> >> >You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go

in
> >at
> >> >118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before

it
> >> >gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days

later.
> >>
> >> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.
> >> >
> >> >There is no way to set up auto-pay to add money every 120 days. The
> >> >minimum is once a month.
> >>
> >> Which makes is not useful for my purchases. My wife will never run

out
> >> of minutes. I'm only interested in maximizing time between payments.

A
> >> $10 card every 120 days would be perfect.

> >
> >
> >Steve is suggesting using the PP auto-replenishment as a fail-safe,

just
> >in case you forget to buy and load a pin. PP isn't as forgiving as they
> >used to be about restoring balances one accidentally lets lapse.

>
> Using the auto-replenishment is more hassle than just buying a PIN and
> holding it until 119 days. The auto pay insists you choose a weekly or
> monthly renewal which means you'd have to cancel and redo it each time
> it you used it.



Agreed, but the first time you forget to replenish, you might wish you
had put up with that hassle.

Personally, I don't bother with auto-replenish, I just set calendar
events on my phones to remind me a day or two prior.


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Old 04-08-2012, 01:58 AM
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:56:37 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 4/6/2012 6:10 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>>> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>>> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>>>
>>>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>>>
>>> The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
>>> set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>>> date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>>>
>>> You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
>>> 118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>>> gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.

>>
>> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.

>
>Setting up Auto-Pay to add money one day before the expiration date is
>just a safety net.


The setting up auto pay is easy but you have to choose weekly or
monthly auto charges. So unless you use that many minutes in a week or
month it will charge you again, and presumably restart the 120 day
cylce again unless you cancel auto pay. Then you have to do it againg
for the new expiration date.

>If you've ever forgotten to refill, it's a pain.
>They'll restore half of your balance as a one time courtesy, but that's
>it. I've never needed that safety net since I set it up.




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Old 04-08-2012, 04:36 AM
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nobody@nada.com wrote on [Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:58:29 -0700]:
> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:56:37 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 4/6/2012 6:10 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>>>> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>>>> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>>>>
>>>>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>>>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>>>>
>>>> The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
>>>> set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>>>> date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>>>>
>>>> You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
>>>> 118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>>>> gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.
>>>
>>> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.

>>
>>Setting up Auto-Pay to add money one day before the expiration date is
>>just a safety net.

>
> The setting up auto pay is easy but you have to choose weekly or
> monthly auto charges. So unless you use that many minutes in a week or
> month it will charge you again, and presumably restart the 120 day
> cylce again unless you cancel auto pay. Then you have to do it againg
> for the new expiration date.


What he's saying is to setup auto pay on a weekly or monthly status
but to have it start in 119 days...
Then, when that 119 days comes you kill the auto pay, refresh
your balance and then setup the autopay again to start in 119
days.

It's an annoying work around.

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Old 04-08-2012, 07:15 PM
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On 4/7/2012 3:09 AM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> Using the auto-replenishment is more hassle than just buying a PIN and
> holding it until 119 days. The auto pay insists you choose a weekly or
> monthly renewal which means you'd have to cancel and redo it each time
> it you used it.


The problem is not having a PIN in reserve or not, it's remembering to
apply it at 119 days.

The autopay is not much of hassle. You change the beginning autopay date
at the same time you go on the site to apply the PIN you bought from
Callingmart. You're on the Pageplus site anyway.

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Old 04-08-2012, 09:08 PM
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 04:36:37 +0000 (UTC), Justin <nospam@insightbb.com>
wrote:

>nobody@nada.com wrote on [Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:58:29 -0700]:
>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:56:37 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/6/2012 6:10 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:17:35 -0700, SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/4/2012 8:00 PM, tlvp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apply it anytime on or before whichever happens first: your account runs
>>>>>> out of funds (can happen real fast if the number you're assigned used to
>>>>>> belong to a deadbeat being hounded by bill-collectors :-) ), or April 30.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And don't sweat losing a day out of 120 by virtue of re-upping a day early
>>>>>> -- you lose more every time you leave a tip at Star Bucks :-) .
>>>>>
>>>>> The safe way to be sure to not let your account go beyond 120 days is to
>>>>> set up auto-payment to add money at 119 days. You can choose the start
>>>>> date for auto-pay to be the day before your expiration date.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should still buy the discounted CallingMart refills though. Go in at
>>>>> 118 days, add the CallingMart money, then disable auto-pay before it
>>>>> gets a chance to fund your account. Set it up again for 119 days later.
>>>>
>>>> Or just buy the PIN from callingmart.com or pageplusdirect.com.
>>>
>>>Setting up Auto-Pay to add money one day before the expiration date is
>>>just a safety net.

>>
>> The setting up auto pay is easy but you have to choose weekly or
>> monthly auto charges. So unless you use that many minutes in a week or
>> month it will charge you again, and presumably restart the 120 day
>> cylce again unless you cancel auto pay. Then you have to do it againg
>> for the new expiration date.

>
>What he's saying is to setup auto pay on a weekly or monthly status
>but to have it start in 119 days...
>Then, when that 119 days comes you kill the auto pay, refresh
>your balance and then setup the autopay again to start in 119
>days.
>
>It's an annoying work around.


And at some level of abstraction, identical to the initial problem -
Timing a 120 day renewal yourself and using PP to immediately
replenish, buying a PIN and replenishing when needed, or using auto
pay and having to cancel it and the redo it for the next 120 days.
What's real difference? You still have to watch the calendar and count
days on your own.

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Old 04-08-2012, 10:00 PM
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On 4/8/2012 2:08 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:

> And at some level of abstraction, identical to the initial problem -
> Timing a 120 day renewal yourself and using PP to immediately
> replenish, buying a PIN and replenishing when needed, or using auto
> pay and having to cancel it and the redo it for the next 120 days.
> What's real difference? You still have to watch the calendar and count
> days on your own.


The difference is that you don't need to really watch the calendar when
you have the auto-renewal in place. The worst that can happen is that
you end up buying a non-discounted refill directly from Pageplus rather
than a 3-5% discounted refill from Callingmart.

If you have a lot of money in your account you really want to ensure
that you don't ever miss that expiration date.

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Old 04-09-2012, 04:31 AM
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:00:34 -0700, sms88 wrote:

> If you have a lot of money in your account you really want to ensure
> that you don't ever miss that expiration date.


Actually, if you have a lot of money in your account, that's probably a
sign that your calling patterns are such that you're likely *never* to be
in a position to use it anyway. So it hardly matters if it just evaporates
when you miss a deadline by accident: it'll just gradually build up again
anyway over time :-) .

Though I must agree, the prospect of seeing even money that no one will
ever get to use disappear is a painful one.

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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Old 04-09-2012, 01:36 PM
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On 4/8/2012 9:31 PM, tlvp wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:00:34 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>
>> If you have a lot of money in your account you really want to ensure
>> that you don't ever miss that expiration date.

>
> Actually, if you have a lot of money in your account, that's probably a
> sign that your calling patterns are such that you're likely *never* to be
> in a position to use it anyway. So it hardly matters if it just evaporates
> when you miss a deadline by accident: it'll just gradually build up again
> anyway over time :-) .
>
> Though I must agree, the prospect of seeing even money that no one will
> ever get to use disappear is a painful one.


Not really. You could be a 1000 minute a year user that buys an $80 card
the first year, then three $10 cards at 120 day intervals the second
year, for a total of 2090 minutes (after the 50 per month is deducted).

You'd definitely want a fail-safe mechanism in place with the $80/1 year
card since renewals every year make you stop thinking about having to
constantly add money.


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Old 04-09-2012, 07:15 PM
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 06:36:24 -0700, SMS wrote:

> On 4/8/2012 9:31 PM, tlvp wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:00:34 -0700, sms88 wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a lot of money in your account you really want to ensure
>>> that you don't ever miss that expiration date.

>>
>> Actually, if you have a lot of money in your account, that's probably a
>> sign that your calling patterns are such that you're likely *never* to be
>> in a position to use it anyway. So it hardly matters if it just evaporates
>> when you miss a deadline by accident: it'll just gradually build up again
>> anyway over time :-) .
>>
>> Though I must agree, the prospect of seeing even money that no one will
>> ever get to use disappear is a painful one.

>
> Not really. You could be a 1000 minute a year user that buys an $80 card
> the first year, then three $10 cards at 120 day intervals the second
> year, for a total of 2090 minutes (after the 50¢ per month is deducted).


True enough :-) .

> You'd definitely want a fail-safe mechanism in place with the $80/1 year
> card since renewals every year make you stop thinking about having to
> constantly add money.


Agreed. Cheers, -- tlvp
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:00 AM
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:00:34 -0700, sms88 <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>On 4/8/2012 2:08 PM, nobody@nada.com wrote:
>
>> And at some level of abstraction, identical to the initial problem -
>> Timing a 120 day renewal yourself and using PP to immediately
>> replenish, buying a PIN and replenishing when needed, or using auto
>> pay and having to cancel it and the redo it for the next 120 days.
>> What's real difference? You still have to watch the calendar and count
>> days on your own.

>
>The difference is that you don't need to really watch the calendar when
>you have the auto-renewal in place. The worst that can happen is that
>you end up buying a non-discounted refill directly from Pageplus rather
>than a 3-5% discounted refill from Callingmart.


Yes you have to watch the calendar, because with autopay you have to
chose it to apply either weekly or monthly. If you don't stop autopay
before that week or month expires, you get replenished whether you
need it or not. There is no option to autopay every 120 days.

By the way, pageplusdirect.com has better discounts most of the time.
>
>If you have a lot of money in your account you really want to ensure
>that you don't ever miss that expiration date.


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