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Old 11-25-2006, 04:42 AM
Larry
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Default Skype wifi phone $159

I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a YEAR
of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it for....(sigh)

http://us.accessories.skype.com/dire....jsp?prod=3394

$159, direct-to-wifi SMC Skype phone, free wifi router, 500 minutes Skype
out, a year of Skype Voicemail. It's only problem is it will NOT logon to
webpage based wifi hotspots like restaurants/airports/etc., use. But, even
if it's just a housephone....that you can use on all the other wifi
hotspots like yours....oh, the temptation, the temptation.....

Damn.....(c;

I bet I can sell the tiny router for $30-50....(c;

Where's my credit card........................(sigh)

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Old 11-25-2006, 04:06 PM
Quit spamming Usenet Larry
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:42:25 -0500, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
>it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a YEAR
>of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it for....(sigh)


And what does this have to do with cellular?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Quit spamming the newsgroups, Larry!



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Old 11-25-2006, 05:38 PM
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Quit spamming Usenet Larry <none@nospam.net> wrote in
news:3vtgm29lc82nghf23ct9hooi3ivubtt5vp@4ax.com:

> And what does this have to do with cellular?
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
>


Unless you're in the cellular business, this has a lot to do with cellular
users as an excellent way to save money and communicate, the point of
cellular in the first place.

Of course, it has nothing to do with the cellular BUSINESS, if that's the
business you're in....and, obviously, I'm not.

Merely pointing out alternatives isn't, yet, a crime.

Larry
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Old 11-25-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <Xns98868B2BB2F30noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:

> Unless you're in the cellular business, this has a lot to do with cellular
> users as an excellent way to save money and communicate, the point of
> cellular in the first place.


********. It's off-topic, and you know it.

> Merely pointing out alternatives isn't, yet, a crime.


No one said it's a crime...

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Old 11-25-2006, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

"Quit spamming Usenet Larry" <none@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:3vtgm29lc82nghf23ct9hooi3ivubtt5vp@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:42:25 -0500, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
>>it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a
>>YEAR
>>of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it for....(sigh)

>
> And what does this have to do with cellular?
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
>
> Quit spamming the newsgroups, Larry!


I'm very interested in related, but technically off-topic posts, provided
they're informative. Anyone interested in cellular service should be
interested in emerging Wi-Fi technologies and how they may affect VZW (or
any other) cell service.

I would not be quite as effervescent about these technologies as Larry is,
at least not now, but his posts are something to think about.




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Old 11-25-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

"Ange1o DePa1ma" <angelodpnospam@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in
news:5YudnV1989ZgD_XYUSdV9g@ptd.net:

> I'm very interested in related, but technically off-topic posts,
> provided they're informative. Anyone interested in cellular service
> should be interested in emerging Wi-Fi technologies and how they may
> affect VZW (or any other) cell service.
>
> I would not be quite as effervescent about these technologies as Larry
> is, at least not now, but his posts are something to think about.
>
>


Thank you, Angelo. Those trying to stop any postings about VoIP, that
may interest other cellphone users, must have either some vested interest
in the cellular phone business, which is threatened by VoIP services like
Skype....or are some kind of control freaks.

What they need to do is to NOT read any posts about other technologies in
this OPEN forum of Usenet....or go to the company's controlled web forums
to read only the good stuff the company wants posted.

I sure hope the companies can never tell us what can be posted here.
That would be a shame, indeed.....for everyone.

A simple killfile looking for "Skype" and "VoIP" in the subject headers
will save them from having to even see the headers of these posts. They
know that, but it doesn't help them in their "control freak" mode....(c;


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Old 11-25-2006, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <5YudnV1989ZgD_XYUSdV9g@ptd.net>, Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:

> I'm very interested in related, but technically off-topic posts, provided
> they're informative. Anyone interested in cellular service should be
> interested in emerging Wi-Fi technologies and how they may affect VZW (or
> any other) cell service.


For what it's worth, I don't think all of Larry's Skype posts are spam.

The ones where he simply starts new threads hawking services and phones
are, without question, off-topic and inappropriate.



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Old 11-25-2006, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <Xns988691B13BEC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:

> Thank you, Angelo. Those trying to stop any postings about VoIP, that
> may interest other cellphone users, must have either some vested interest
> in the cellular phone business, which is threatened by VoIP services like
> Skype....or are some kind of control freaks.


Or we've seen other newsgroups get taken over by spammers to the point that
they're unusable. Saw it with cle.* many years ago, have seen it time and
again with news.admin.net-abuse.email... just to name a few.

> What they need to do is to NOT read any posts about other technologies in
> this OPEN forum of Usenet....or go to the company's controlled web forums
> to read only the good stuff the company wants posted.


Sounds like "Just hit delete." I've heard a lot of email spammers sing that
tune.

Thing is, my opinion of most of your Skype posts is no different from
my opinion of someone going into the Sprint or Cingular newsgroups and
starting to post similar crap about Verizon. I wouldn't condone that, either.

Anyhow, Larry, let me turn the tables: How much is Skype paying you? Do you
get some sort of referral fee? I know you love to claim I'm on Verizon's
payroll. How about you?

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Old 11-25-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnemh6s2.tqv.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> Anyhow, Larry, let me turn the tables: How much is Skype paying you?
> Do you get some sort of referral fee? I know you love to claim I'm on
> Verizon's payroll. How about you?
>
>


Ha! So far, it's COST me about $800...in PDAs, Skype PHones, new
laptop....but it's just an excuse...(c;

I'm but a simple, interested Skype USER who thinks the whole idea is just
grand....especially the part about bypassing the goddamned cellphone ripoff
*******s and their contracts and funny business.

There, now you know my motive...(c;



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Old 11-25-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <3vtgm29lc82nghf23ct9hooi3ivubtt5vp@4ax.com>,
Quit spamming Usenet Larry <none@nospam.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:42:25 -0500, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
> >it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a YEAR
> >of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it for....(sigh)

>
> And what does this have to do with cellular?


lots. it is a competitive and emerging alternative technology.

i can explain to you how to use a killfile if you'd like.

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Old 11-25-2006, 07:44 PM
james g. keegan jr.
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <slrnemh48a.pf2.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>,
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <Xns98868B2BB2F30noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
>
> > Unless you're in the cellular business, this has a lot to do with cellular
> > users as an excellent way to save money and communicate, the point of
> > cellular in the first place.

>
> ********. It's off-topic, and you know it.


no steven, it is not off-topic at all. it is quite relevant.

larry is easy enough to attack and put down if that is your intent.
this isn't the place to do it.

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Old 11-25-2006, 09:24 PM
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In article <jgkeegan-D77CAB.15443325112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan jr. wrote:

>> ********. It's off-topic, and you know it.

>
> no steven, it is not off-topic at all. it is quite relevant.


No, it's not relevant. I believe there are already other fora for VoIP,
including at least one Usenet newsgroup. The only Skype stuff that has
any relationship to cellular, at least out of what's posted here, is Larry's
constant whining about the way the wireless providers do business. He says
they all suck, and to some extent, they DO all suck. Fine... I'm not
going to argue that, it's true. So what's the point of posting that there's
some sale on XYZ Inc's newest Skype handset?

> larry is easy enough to attack and put down if that is your intent.
> this isn't the place to do it.


Give me a break. That argument is as tired as the argument that I'm a
VZ shill. I've publically agreed with Larry before. If I was only out to
attack him, that's what I'd be doing every time he posted, even when he was
not spamming.

Sorry James, there *are* guidelines for posting to Usenet, and most ISP's
even codify those guidelines into their Acceptable Use policies, like Larry's
cable company does. Why don't I just ignore all the crap? Because, as I've
said before, I've seen newsgroups get overrun by the off-topic BS, and those
newsgroups have become unusable. Alt.cellular.* hasn't yet.


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Old 11-25-2006, 10:51 PM
james g. keegan jr.
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Default Re: Skype wifi phone $159

In article <slrnemhgl9.gtg.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>,
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <jgkeegan-D77CAB.15443325112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan
> jr. wrote:
>
> >> ********. It's off-topic, and you know it.

> >
> > no steven, it is not off-topic at all. it is quite relevant.

>
> No, it's not relevant.


nonsense. a number of people have already told you that it was.

much as you might like to control the behavior of others, you're
off-base on this one, i believe. the topic is interesting to
newsgroup readers.

> I believe there are already other fora for VoIP,
> including at least one Usenet newsgroup. The only Skype stuff that has
> any relationship to cellular, at least out of what's posted here, is Larry's
> constant whining about the way the wireless providers do business. He says
> they all suck, and to some extent, they DO all suck. Fine... I'm not
> going to argue that, it's true. So what's the point of posting that there's
> some sale on XYZ Inc's newest Skype handset?


i won't dispute that there is a common foundation of whining about
the industry in larry's posts. i do argue that the evolution of
alternatives to today's cellular industry is most relevant.
>
> > larry is easy enough to attack and put down if that is your intent.
> > this isn't the place to do it.

>
> Give me a break. That argument is as tired as the argument that I'm a
> VZ shill. I've publically agreed with Larry before. If I was only out to
> attack him, that's what I'd be doing every time he posted, even when he was
> not spamming.


he was not spamming with his posts about skype; certainly no more
than you are.

> Sorry James, there *are* guidelines for posting to Usenet, and most ISP's
> even codify those guidelines into their Acceptable Use policies, like Larry's
> cable company does. Why don't I just ignore all the crap? Because, as I've
> said before, I've seen newsgroups get overrun by the off-topic BS, and those
> newsgroups have become unusable. Alt.cellular.* hasn't yet.


there is a historical reason for moderated and non-moderated
newsgroups, steven. i though you had been around long enough to
recognize that. i doubt that there are two usenet isp admin, however
usenet-illiterate they might be, who would categorize larry's skype
posts as spam.

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Old 11-25-2006, 11:30 PM
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In article <jgkeegan-1D70CF.18514125112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan jr. wrote:

> there is a historical reason for moderated and non-moderated
> newsgroups, steven. i though you had been around long enough to
> recognize that.


Yes, I do, I've been on Usenet since 1989. I also recognize that most
newsgroups have guidelines for posting. Even unmoderated alt groups.


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Old 11-26-2006, 12:21 AM
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In article <slrnemho1p.uot.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>,
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <jgkeegan-1D70CF.18514125112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan
> jr. wrote:
>
> > there is a historical reason for moderated and non-moderated
> > newsgroups, steven. i though you had been around long enough to
> > recognize that.

>
> Yes, I do, I've been on Usenet since 1989. I also recognize that most
> newsgroups have guidelines for posting. Even unmoderated alt groups.



that they do, and those guidelines evolve with usage and the will of
the group's participants.

your opinion on whether or not larry's post was relevant is clearly a
minority view. several people have explained that to you, perhaps
more than you have seen given your childish effort to redirect
follow-ups.

put your ego aside now do what you normally do which is post relevant
information.

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Old 11-26-2006, 12:53 AM
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In article <jgkeegan-C42B7C.20215425112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan jr. wrote:

> your opinion on whether or not larry's post was relevant is clearly a
> minority view. several people have explained that to you, perhaps
> more than you have seen given your childish effort to redirect
> follow-ups.


> put your ego aside now do what you normally do which is post relevant
> information.


Yes, a few people have disagreed with me. Since you either ignored or completely missed my
main point, I don't suppose there's any point in arguing further.

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Old 11-26-2006, 01:17 AM
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In article <slrnemhsse.45e.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>,
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <jgkeegan-C42B7C.20215425112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan
> jr. wrote:
>
> > your opinion on whether or not larry's post was relevant is clearly a
> > minority view. several people have explained that to you, perhaps
> > more than you have seen given your childish effort to redirect
> > follow-ups.

>
> > put your ego aside now do what you normally do which is post relevant
> > information.

>
> Yes, a few people have disagreed with me. Since you either ignored
> or completely missed my main point, I don't suppose there's any
> point in arguing further.


there was never any point in your continuing to defend your error.
even you knew that as evidenced by your childish effort to redirect
followups so that fewer posts critical of your failed arguments would
appear in the same groups to which you thought it appropriate to
post. that was hypocritical as well as intellectually dishonest of
you.

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Old 11-26-2006, 04:34 AM
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In article <jgkeegan-7EC3A4.21171225112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan jr. wrote:

> there was never any point in your continuing to defend your error.
> even you knew that as evidenced by your childish effort to redirect
> followups so that fewer posts critical of your failed arguments would
> appear in the same groups to which you thought it appropriate to
> post. that was hypocritical as well as intellectually dishonest of
> you.


I didn't do that intentionally. My newsreader (SLRN on Linux), by default,
doesn't follow up to all groups, just the first in the original list, and
I wasn't paying very close attention. I apologize and will have to see if
there's a config change I can make to default to following up to all groups.

At any rate, as I said, you missed the original point, so what's the use of
me continuing to argue?


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Old 11-26-2006, 12:57 PM
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In article <slrnemi9rp.l62.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net>,
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> In article <jgkeegan-7EC3A4.21171225112006@individual.net>, james g. keegan
> jr. wrote:
>
> > there was never any point in your continuing to defend your error.
> > even you knew that as evidenced by your childish effort to redirect
> > followups so that fewer posts critical of your failed arguments would
> > appear in the same groups to which you thought it appropriate to
> > post. that was hypocritical as well as intellectually dishonest of
> > you.

>
> I didn't do that intentionally. My newsreader (SLRN on Linux), by default,
> doesn't follow up to all groups, just the first in the original list, and
> I wasn't paying very close attention. I apologize and will have to see if
> there's a config change I can make to default to following up to all groups.


i have used slrn but do not remember how to set the follow-ups to the
same groups as the original post. thanks for addressing that point.
you demonstrated a lot of closs.

> At any rate, as I said, you missed the original point,


yes, that was both inaccurate and defensive since i responded to your
point several times.

> so what's the use of me continuing to argue?


none. as i said above: "there was never any point in your continuing
to defend your error."

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Old 11-27-2006, 07:37 AM
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Larry wrote:
> I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
> it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a YEAR
> of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it for....(sigh)
>
> http://us.accessories.skype.com/dire....jsp?prod=3394
>
> $159, direct-to-wifi SMC Skype phone, free wifi router, 500 minutes Skype
> out, a year of Skype Voicemail. It's only problem is it will NOT logon to
> webpage based wifi hotspots like restaurants/airports/etc., use.


That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct
you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:19 AM
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At 27 Nov 2006 00:37:43 -0800 SMS wrote:

> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct

you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.
>

Which is why I personally think a Wi-Fi enabled PocketPC is a better Wi-
Fi Skype phone than a Wi-Fi Skype phone! Many "last year's models" like
HP 2210s or Dell Axim X50's turn up as refurbs for $200-250, and have a
web browser that will let you login to a hotel free Wi-Fi, then you
switch to Skype (or whatever VoIP softphone you choose.)




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Old 11-27-2006, 01:41 PM
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:456aa3d9$0$82548
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct
> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.
>
>


Yeah, I agree. I'll have to carry the laptop and use the CIT200 to those
places. But, at home and at friends' houses, it will work great. It'll
become my home phone.

These phones may become a great way to get comms for those cellphone users
who have just terrible signals inside their houses we've always had
problems with. Alltel's signal is usable, but nothing to brag about. My
wifi signal from the central router is good for about 300' and, with 7
antennas to choose from, has no dead spots, even if you take into account
the usage charges so low with no fixed fees. $10 lasts a long time.

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Old 11-27-2006, 01:48 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:456ab552$0$21162
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> At 27 Nov 2006 00:37:43 -0800 SMS wrote:
>
>> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct

> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.
>>

> Which is why I personally think a Wi-Fi enabled PocketPC is a better Wi-
> Fi Skype phone than a Wi-Fi Skype phone! Many "last year's models" like
> HP 2210s or Dell Axim X50's turn up as refurbs for $200-250, and have a
> web browser that will let you login to a hotel free Wi-Fi, then you
> switch to Skype (or whatever VoIP softphone you choose.)
>

It will be great when Skype for Palm comes out so we don't have to buy a
Windoze Mobile PC that crashes all the time. Axim X51v I bought was just
awful...(d^ The Windoze Mobiles also run about 2 hours on a charge,
which makes using them for a phone pretty useless, too. I'm hoping I can
go all day on a Palm TX. Palm Pilots always have run a long time on a
charge. My old Handspring Visor Edge's battery run is measured in weeks,
not hours.

Stay away from that Axim. It sucks. I got the T-shirt!

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Old 11-27-2006, 03:36 PM
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At 27 Nov 2006 09:48:48 -0500 Larry wrote:

> > Which is why I personally think a Wi-Fi enabled PocketPC is a better

Wi-
> > Fi Skype phone than a Wi-Fi Skype phone!


> It will be great when Skype for Palm comes out so we don't have to buy

a
> Windoze Mobile PC that crashes all the time. Axim X51v I bought was

just
> awful...(d^


As I've told you before, your experience was atypical.

Most WinMo users do not have the problems you had.

> The Windoze Mobiles also run about 2 hours on a charge,
> which makes using them for a phone pretty useless, too. I'm hoping I

can
> go all day on a Palm TX. Palm Pilots always have run a long time on a
> charge.


Sure- when they had b&w screens, 16mhz processors, 1MB RAM and no
wireless connectivity. Stick a 480x480 color screen and built-in wi-fi
and bluetooth and you've got a two-hour device as well! Did you think
there was some kind of battery-saving magic in the Palm OS?

> My old Handspring Visor Edge's battery run is measured in weeks,
> not hours.


Which, compared to a modern-day Treo or Axim, was a pocket calculator
with an address book built-in.

> Stay away from that Axim. It sucks. I got the T-shirt!

I still believe, as I told you then, that you had a piece of defective
hardware and chose to blame the Windows Moble OS rather than just get a
replacement that worked. Some of your problems were bugs (the bluetooth
not connecting w/the headset) but the freeze ups and screwy video were
defects, but, as usual, you were happier blaming "evil corporations"
(this time Microsoft and Dell) than getting any enjoyment out of a product.


I'm surprised you have anything good to say about Skype, unless you don't
consider eBay an evil corporation...


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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Larry wrote:
>> I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
>> it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a
>> YEAR of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it
>> for....(sigh)
>>
>> http://us.accessories.skype.com/dire....jsp?prod=3394
>>
>> $159, direct-to-wifi SMC Skype phone, free wifi router, 500 minutes Skype
>> out, a year of Skype Voicemail. It's only problem is it will NOT logon
>> to webpage based wifi hotspots like restaurants/airports/etc., use.

>
> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct
> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.


I would hardly call free WiFi ubiquitous. Most hot spots charge, and many of
the free ones are impossible to log onto. It's going to be a while before
this stuff works.



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Old 11-28-2006, 05:50 PM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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> At 27 Nov 2006 00:37:43 -0800 SMS wrote:
>
>> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct

> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.
>>

> Which is why I personally think a Wi-Fi enabled PocketPC is a better Wi-
> Fi Skype phone than a Wi-Fi Skype phone! Many "last year's models" like
> HP 2210s or Dell Axim X50's turn up as refurbs for $200-250, and have a
> web browser that will let you login to a hotel free Wi-Fi, then you
> switch to Skype (or whatever VoIP softphone you choose.)


Yes indeed. My IPAQ with Skype installed works just like a cell phone.
Problem is, if I move 200 feet away from my house I get disconnected.

At some point though, this will work. If I spent all of my time in an area
that was blanketed by WiFi I would consider changing my cellular plan, and
under the right circumstances perhaps even dropping it.

But as I've written many times before, we are a long way from that.



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Old 11-28-2006, 05:53 PM
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Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:456aa3d9$0$82548$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> Larry wrote:
>>> I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't think
>>> it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out and a
>>> YEAR of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it
>>> for....(sigh)
>>>
>>> http://us.accessories.skype.com/dire....jsp?prod=3394
>>>
>>> $159, direct-to-wifi SMC Skype phone, free wifi router, 500 minutes Skype
>>> out, a year of Skype Voicemail. It's only problem is it will NOT logon
>>> to webpage based wifi hotspots like restaurants/airports/etc., use.

>> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct
>> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.

>
> I would hardly call free WiFi ubiquitous. Most hot spots charge, and many of
> the free ones are impossible to log onto. It's going to be a while before
> this stuff works.
>
>

Exactly, in the areas where I normally work/travel free WiFi is a rarity
unless you count wardriving and finding someones open system who didn't
know about looking it down.

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Old 11-28-2006, 06:54 PM
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At 28 Nov 2006 13:50:30 -0500 Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:

> Yes indeed. My IPAQ with Skype installed works just like a cell phone.
> Problem is, if I move 200 feet away from my house I get disconnected.


True, but if you had a PPC Phone edition, you could set Skype to forward
your calls to your cell (or vice versa) for more ubiquitous coverage.

> At some point though, this will work. If I spent all of my time in an

area
> that was blanketed by WiFi I would consider changing my cellular plan,

and
> under the right circumstances perhaps even dropping it.
>
> But as I've written many times before, we are a long way from that.


I agree 100%. I keep Skype on my T-Mo MDA as a very seldom used backup.
I was at a Holiday Inn in Nebraska not too long ago that had lousy T-
Mobile coverage in the building, but offered free Wi-Fi. I made all of
my outgoing calls in the room with Skype, rather than the room's phone,
which charged $1.00 for local calls!

I'm certainly not willing to give up my cellplan anytime this decade
either, but VoIP is a good backup on the right occasion!


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Old 11-29-2006, 04:38 PM
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"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Ange1o DePa1ma wrote:
>> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:456aa3d9$0$82548$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> I found it for $143 on Pricegrabber.com from nerds.net, but I don't
>>>> think it comes with the FREE wireless router, 500 minutes of Skype Out
>>>> and a YEAR of free Skype voicemail like Skype's own store is selling it
>>>> for....(sigh)
>>>>
>>>> http://us.accessories.skype.com/dire....jsp?prod=3394
>>>>
>>>> $159, direct-to-wifi SMC Skype phone, free wifi router, 500 minutes
>>>> Skype out, a year of Skype Voicemail. It's only problem is it will NOT
>>>> logon to webpage based wifi hotspots like restaurants/airports/etc.,
>>>> use.
>>> That part of it sucks. Free Wi-Fi is ubiquitous, but most places direct
>>> you to a start page with terms and conditions to accept.

>>
>> I would hardly call free WiFi ubiquitous. Most hot spots charge, and many
>> of the free ones are impossible to log onto. It's going to be a while
>> before this stuff works.

> Exactly, in the areas where I normally work/travel free WiFi is a rarity
> unless you count wardriving and finding someones open system who didn't
> know about looking it down.


Yup. That strategy falls under the category of fun stuff, "Larry stuff."
Cool as hell and just as impractical.



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