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Old 12-09-2006, 01:47 PM
Robert Coe
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Default Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

At work we have a modem-equipped PC that monitors various aspects of our
network and notifies one or more people if it finds something wrong. In the
past, most of the notifications went to people's beepers; but most of us have
switched from beepers to cell phones, so the requirement is now to send an SMS
text message to a cell phone. (Yes, we could send an SMTP message to the
phone's text-messaging email address, but what if our SMTP servers are what's
down?)

The way this works is that the notification software maintains a profile for
each cell phone provider, including such parameters as transmission protocols,
line speed, and, most importantly, the land-line phone number to call to
insert the message into the provider's messaging system. (The user's cell
phone number is part of the message header; the computer doesn't call it
directly.) Most of our cell phones are Verizon, and the necessary phone number
is posted on the VZW Web site. (It isn't easy to find, being buried in an
obscure FAQ list, but it's there.) But one or two of the message recipients
have Cingular phones, and I haven't been able to find a corresponding number
for Cingular. Can someone tell me how to find it? If it's region-specific, I
need the one for the Boston area.

For that matter, is it even possible to inject a text message into the
Cingular system? At first glance, Cingular appears a bit more hostile to
outsiders than Verizon is. I notice that Cingular won't let you send text
messages to their subscribers from their Web site, while Verizon makes that
easy to do.

Bob

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Old 12-09-2006, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

In article <chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com>, bob@1776.COM
says...
> obscure FAQ list, but it's there.) But one or two of the message recipients
> have Cingular phones, and I haven't been able to find a corresponding number
> for Cingular. Can someone tell me how to find it? If it's region-specific, I
> need the one for the Boston area.
>

See if either of these work for you:
800-856-6122 prompts for 10digit cell# then enter numeric message
sends "please call nnnn" to phone via SMS
800-469-5351 modem access
couldn't test this since I no longer have the software but a
modem still answers - please post if it still works
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Old 12-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Robert Coe
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:46:24 GMT, Jud Hardcastle
<I5i5changethistodash5rbo@xemaps.com> wrote:
: In article <chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com>, bob@1776.COM
: says...
: > obscure FAQ list, but it's there.) But one or two of the message recipients
: > have Cingular phones, and I haven't been able to find a corresponding number
: > for Cingular. Can someone tell me how to find it? If it's region-specific, I
: > need the one for the Boston area.
: >
: See if either of these work for you:
: 800-856-6122 prompts for 10digit cell# then enter numeric message
: sends "please call nnnn" to phone via SMS
: 800-469-5351 modem access
: couldn't test this since I no longer have the software but a
: modem still answers - please post if it still works

Thanks! The "modem access" number may be just what I'm looking for. I'll try
it Monday and let you know.

Bob

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Old 12-09-2006, 03:47 PM
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"Robert Coe" <bob@1776.COM> wrote in message news:chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com...
> At work we have a modem-equipped PC that monitors various aspects of our
> network and notifies one or more people if it finds something wrong. In the
> past, most of the notifications went to people's beepers; but most of us have
> switched from beepers to cell phones, so the requirement is now to send an SMS
> text message to a cell phone. (Yes, we could send an SMTP message to the
> phone's text-messaging email address, but what if our SMTP servers are what's
> down?)


The last time I tried, xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com still worked as a universal message address.

Some complain it's not an elegant solution, but it works and only wastes some electrons.



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Old 12-09-2006, 06:56 PM
Steven J. Sobol
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

In article <chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com>, Robert Coe wrote:

> For that matter, is it even possible to inject a text message into the
> Cingular system? At first glance, Cingular appears a bit more hostile to
> outsiders than Verizon is. I notice that Cingular won't let you send text
> messages to their subscribers from their Web site, while Verizon makes that
> easy to do.



AreaCodeAndPhoneNumber@CingularMe.com

or go to their website:

http://CingularMe.com/

and click "Send a Message"

Yes, they probably have the site linked off cingular.com, but it IS
there.

Right now (Saturday 12/9 - noon Pacific time), it says the site is
unavailable, but it usually works.


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Old 12-09-2006, 09:56 PM
Robert Coe
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 19:56:56 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
: In article <chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com>, Robert Coe wrote:
:
: > For that matter, is it even possible to inject a text message into the
: > Cingular system? At first glance, Cingular appears a bit more hostile to
: > outsiders than Verizon is. I notice that Cingular won't let you send text
: > messages to their subscribers from their Web site, while Verizon makes that
: > easy to do.
:
:
: AreaCodeAndPhoneNumber@CingularMe.com
:
: or go to their website:
:
: http://CingularMe.com/
:
: and click "Send a Message"
:
: Yes, they probably have the site linked off cingular.com, but it IS
: there.
:
: Right now (Saturday 12/9 - noon Pacific time), it says the site is
: unavailable, but it usually works.

Almost three hours later it's still down. But in any case it's an answer to a
question I didn't ask. I don't care whether I can send mail to a Cingular
subscriber from a Web site; I need to have a computer do it through a dial-up
modem. I cited the Web site example only as a possible indicator that Cingular
may not be terribly interested in facilitating access to their messaging
system from outside their network.

Bob

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Old 12-09-2006, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

It is alleged that Thurman claimed:

> The last time I tried, xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com still worked as a universal message address.


I just tried it. The message bounced with a "452 Message rejected"
error.

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Old 12-09-2006, 10:43 PM
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:47:53 -0600, "Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com> wrote:
:
: "Robert Coe" <bob@1776.COM> wrote in message news:chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com...
: > At work we have a modem-equipped PC that monitors various aspects of our
: > network and notifies one or more people if it finds something wrong. In the
: > past, most of the notifications went to people's beepers; but most of us have
: > switched from beepers to cell phones, so the requirement is now to send an SMS
: > text message to a cell phone. (Yes, we could send an SMTP message to the
: > phone's text-messaging email address, but what if our SMTP servers are what's
: > down?)
:
: The last time I tried, xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com still worked as a universal message address.

Apparently it's now xxxxxxxxxx@MyCingular.com.

: Some complain it's not an elegant solution, but it works and only wastes some electrons.

Elegance isn't the issue. We're trying to avoid a solution that relies on SMTP
mail for the reason stated in my original message.

Bob

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Old 12-09-2006, 11:18 PM
james g. keegan jr.
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

In article <v5imn29jk4utdd9gglvhjafc5kvt8kj7le@4ax.com>,
Robert Coe <bob@1776.COM> wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:47:53 -0600, "Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com> wrote:
> :
> : "Robert Coe" <bob@1776.COM> wrote in message
> : news:chgln2p8o0rt94k7hv55n2l8oqfde89mlq@4ax.com...
> : > At work we have a modem-equipped PC that monitors various aspects of our
> : > network and notifies one or more people if it finds something wrong. In
> : > the
> : > past, most of the notifications went to people's beepers; but most of us
> : > have
> : > switched from beepers to cell phones, so the requirement is now to send
> : > an SMS
> : > text message to a cell phone. (Yes, we could send an SMTP message to the
> : > phone's text-messaging email address, but what if our SMTP servers are
> : > what's
> : > down?)
> :
> : The last time I tried, xxx-xxx-xxxx@teleflip.com still worked as a
> : universal message address.
>
> Apparently it's now xxxxxxxxxx@MyCingular.com.


on the contrary xxxxxxxxxx@teleflip.com worked 2 minutes ago and sent
a message to a verizon account.

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Old 12-10-2006, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Text messaging a Cingular user from a LL phone?

It is alleged that Robert Coe claimed:

> Apparently it's now xxxxxxxxxx@MyCingular.com.


This also failed.

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Old 12-10-2006, 05:54 AM
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In article <95fmn210pqqgvs5vec8pjnguqkkfl7of58@4ax.com>, Robert Coe wrote:

> Almost three hours later it's still down. But in any case it's an answer to a
> question I didn't ask. I don't care whether I can send mail to a Cingular
> subscriber from a Web site


I understand that's not the question you asked. I was replying to one
of the other points you made.

> modem. I cited the Web site example only as a possible indicator that Cingular
> may not be terribly interested in facilitating access to their messaging
> system from outside their network.


Which seems to be refuted by the reply I made...

Incidentally, none of the carriers seem eager to give out TAP numbers,
which I believe is what you're looking for. I know Sprint's and I used
to know Verizon's, but that's it.


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Old 12-10-2006, 05:55 AM
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In article <d8omn2h4el0cu7len6sibmdvnq3a7htptq@gordol.org>, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> It is alleged that Robert Coe claimed:
>
>> Apparently it's now xxxxxxxxxx@MyCingular.com.

>
> This also failed.


xxxxxxxxxx@cingularme.com does work. The domain stands for "Cingular
Media," if I recall correectly.


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Old 12-10-2006, 12:19 PM
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Steven J. Sobol wrote:

>
>> modem. I cited the Web site example only as a possible indicator that Cingular
>> may not be terribly interested in facilitating access to their messaging
>> system from outside their network.

>
> Which seems to be refuted by the reply I made...
>
> Incidentally, none of the carriers seem eager to give out TAP numbers,
> which I believe is what you're looking for. I know Sprint's and I used
> to know Verizon's, but that's it.
>
>


Verizons is listed on the website:

https://www.vtext.com/customer_site/...outservice.jsp

and they will also give it to you if you ask for the data department
when you call. Cingular CS seems to be totally clueless about what it is
and they have had various numbers for their TDMA and GSM systems.
Someone I know who uses TAP in a similar fashion to what the poster was
asking for has said that Cingulars TAP is often unreliable either
erroring out or not sending the message.

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Old 12-10-2006, 01:24 PM
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 06:55:08 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
: In article <d8omn2h4el0cu7len6sibmdvnq3a7htptq@gordol.org>, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
: > It is alleged that Robert Coe claimed:
: >
: >> Apparently it's now xxxxxxxxxx@MyCingular.com.
: >
: > This also failed.
:
: xxxxxxxxxx@cingularme.com does work. The domain stands for "Cingular
: Media," if I recall correectly.

I'm sure you're right; my error. I'm not a Cingular subscriber, but my son and
his wife are, and I was remembering a domain name from the past. I knew
Cingular had changed it; I just wasn't thinking.

Bob

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Old 12-10-2006, 01:46 PM
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 06:54:22 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
: In article <95fmn210pqqgvs5vec8pjnguqkkfl7of58@4ax.com>, Robert Coe wrote:
:
: > Almost three hours later it's still down. But in any case it's an answer to a
: > question I didn't ask. I don't care whether I can send mail to a Cingular
: > subscriber from a Web site
:
: I understand that's not the question you asked. I was replying to one
: of the other points you made.
:
: > modem. I cited the Web site example only as a possible indicator that Cingular
: > may not be terribly interested in facilitating access to their messaging
: > system from outside their network.
:
: Which seems to be refuted by the reply I made...

I'm not sure I see that, but you may well be right. I won't dispute your
point.

: Incidentally, none of the carriers seem eager to give out TAP numbers,
: which I believe is what you're looking for.

Yes, that's what I'm looking for. One of the other responders posted what he
thinks it is; I'm hoping he turns out to be right. I can't test it until
tomorrow at the earliest.

: I know Sprint's and I used to know Verizon's, but that's it.

Verizon's is on their Web site. You have to look for it, and it's accompanied
by warnings that you're on your own because they neither sell nor support PC
messaging software, but it's there.

I'd ask you about Sprint's number, but I don't think any of the people who
need to receive messages from our computer are Sprint users.

Bob

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Old 12-10-2006, 04:12 PM
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In article <lcednVVESrLxlOHYnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@adelphia.com>, George wrote:

> Verizons is listed on the website:
>
> https://www.vtext.com/customer_site/...outservice.jsp


Cool! That's relatively new, then. Thanks!


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