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Old 09-15-2008, 03:59 PM
George
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Default Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the US
border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?

Thanks

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

George wrote:
> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the US
> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?


Not sure of your friends plan but you do not want to roam on
Mexican towers $$$$$$$$$... Check with Verizon on their plan. The
signal is there but I turn off my phone when I leave route 8 toward
Algodones just to be sure.

It is more like on the border.. park in the Indian parking lot and
walk across the border and you are there.

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Jim

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Old 09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

On 2008-09-15, George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the US
> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?


The CDMA carrier in Mexico which Verizon roams on is Iusacell, at

http://www.iusacell.com.mx

Unfortunately their coverage is lean and their coverage checker
is almost worse than useless. It lists Municipio Mexicali as having
coverage but there is no way to know how far from the center
of town that coverage extends.

In any case, I wouldn't bet on the Mexican CDMA operator operating
there so your friends might have to hope they get lucky and find
a native Verizon signal. In general, roaming in Mexico is best
done with a GSM phone since the coverage from the GSM carriers
is much, much more extensive.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 09-15-2008, 05:33 PM
George
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2008-09-15, George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the US
>> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
>> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?

>
> The CDMA carrier in Mexico which Verizon roams on is Iusacell, at
>
> http://www.iusacell.com.mx
>
> Unfortunately their coverage is lean and their coverage checker
> is almost worse than useless. It lists Municipio Mexicali as having
> coverage but there is no way to know how far from the center
> of town that coverage extends.



Thanks, that coverage map is less than useless.


I found this which at least gives a slightly better idea but there is no
zoom:

http://cellularmap.net/mx_net_compare.shtml


>
> In any case, I wouldn't bet on the Mexican CDMA operator operating
> there so your friends might have to hope they get lucky and find
> a native Verizon signal. In general, roaming in Mexico is best
> done with a GSM phone since the coverage from the GSM carriers
> is much, much more extensive.
>
> Dennis Ferguson


It sure looks that way from the comparison map link. They would need to
pickup an unlocked phone and buy a SIM. Thats a lot of effort for a
short trip.

Hopefully someone might expand on this who found native coverage there.

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:06 PM
Dennis Ferguson
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

On 2008-09-15, George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Dennis Ferguson wrote:
>> On 2008-09-15, George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the US
>>> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
>>> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?

>>
>> The CDMA carrier in Mexico which Verizon roams on is Iusacell, at
>>
>> http://www.iusacell.com.mx
>>
>> Unfortunately their coverage is lean and their coverage checker
>> is almost worse than useless. It lists Municipio Mexicali as having
>> coverage but there is no way to know how far from the center
>> of town that coverage extends.

>
> Thanks, that coverage map is less than useless.
>
> I found this which at least gives a slightly better idea but there is no
> zoom:
>
> http://cellularmap.net/mx_net_compare.shtml


Yes, that map does seem to suggest there is no coverage but you
can't count on that. That map is the same map the US carriers have
been using to show CDMA coverage in Mexico since Verizon Wireless
owned Iusacell 5 years ago, and I know for certain that their coverage
has expanded to places not shown on that map (in southern Mexico where
I've travelled more, at least).

>> In any case, I wouldn't bet on the Mexican CDMA operator operating
>> there so your friends might have to hope they get lucky and find
>> a native Verizon signal. In general, roaming in Mexico is best
>> done with a GSM phone since the coverage from the GSM carriers
>> is much, much more extensive.

>
> It sure looks that way from the comparison map link. They would need to
> pickup an unlocked phone and buy a SIM. Thats a lot of effort for a
> short trip.
>
> Hopefully someone might expand on this who found native coverage there.


That would be the only way to know for sure.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 09-15-2008, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

George wrote:
> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the
> US
> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?
>
> Thanks


1st, it's not a mile off the border, but jam up against the border.
You enter from California by I-8 on route 186, Algodones Road. As you
near the border, park in the large fenced in parking lot on the right.
There is a fee and it is patrolled. Now to Verizon. I have had no
problem getting a Verizon signal there in the past 4 or 5 years, so I
don't believe it will be any different this year, but won't know until
around 11/1 when I get there!! If you get roaming on a Mexican network
you'll know it when they ask for a credit card number. That's when
it's past time to hit the off button!!

Tom J



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Old 09-16-2008, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Is there native coverage in Los Algodones, Mexico?

Tom J wrote:
> George wrote:
>> Some friends are going to Los Algodones. It is only 1 mile from the
>> US
>> border (and Yuma, AZ). Anyone know if native CDMA coverage leaks in
>> there? If not will a VZW digital phone roam on any carrier there?
>>
>> Thanks

>
> 1st, it's not a mile off the border, but jam up against the border.
> You enter from California by I-8 on route 186, Algodones Road. As you
> near the border, park in the large fenced in parking lot on the right.
> There is a fee and it is patrolled. Now to Verizon. I have had no
> problem getting a Verizon signal there in the past 4 or 5 years, so I
> don't believe it will be any different this year, but won't know until
> around 11/1 when I get there!! If you get roaming on a Mexican network
> you'll know it when they ask for a credit card number. That's when
> it's past time to hit the off button!!
>
> Tom J
>

As you can tell I don't know anything about the area and am just trying
to help someone.

That sounds good that you got signal in the past while there. I have
been in a few places that had amazingly sharp cutoff at a boundary so I
had no idea what it might be like there.

Thanks

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