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Old 01-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Jason Bourne
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Default Typical Monthly Smart Phone Data Usage

What do most folks average?

What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
per day?

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:28 PM
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Jason Bourne wrote:
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?


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Old 01-27-2010, 01:19 AM
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Jason Bourne wrote:
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?


I'm an Ultra-light user. I don't text or e-mail using my phone. I use
my computer to send and receive mail and to read newsgroups. I wouldn't
want to lift that 21" monitor but it sure is easy to read mail on!

While my phone is capable of e-mail, texting, and web surfing, the 3"
display and lack of a querty keyboard make it a less than convenient
device with which to send/receive mail and read newsgroups.

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Old 01-27-2010, 02:37 AM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
news:FqednVj4kKGsCMLWnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@giganews.com :

> a less than convenient
> device


= horrible

My Nokia N800 was also horrible for typing text and emails until I bought
the Nokia Bluetooth keyboard first and the hackers built this little USB
converter that allows me to plug in an external USB keyboard. The
Bluetooth keyboard suffered from interference in busy places that made the
keystrokes lag and sometimes resulted in multiple keystrokes as BT tried to
compensate. The USB rubber rollup keyboard is just about as small rolled
up and works perfectly anywhere there's a flat surface to use it.

http://tinyurl.com/ybo63aa
BT works great if very few other BT devices are running in the area...

http://www.gadgets.co.uk/item/USBRK/...rtable-Rubber-
Keyboard.html
This one is mine.

http://www.wetkeys.com/Washable-Full...ard-KBWKFC109-
p/kbwkfc109.htm
This one's cool for $20.


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Old 01-27-2010, 04:35 AM
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"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

> Jason Bourne wrote:
>> What do most folks average?
>>
>> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes
>> surfing per day?

>
> I'm an Ultra-light user. I don't text or e-mail using my phone.
> I use my computer to send and receive mail and to read newsgroups.
> I wouldn't want to lift that 21" monitor but it sure is easy to
> read mail on!


How is that helpful in any way to the OP?


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Old 01-27-2010, 04:50 AM
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Jason Bourne <jg@spy.net> wrote:

> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes
> surfing per day?


I think I'm a light user, I used 70.085 Mb of data and 47 minutes of
talk between November 26 and December 25 of last year.

This month, December 26 to January 25, I used 66.671 Mb of data and 46
minutes of talk.

Both months show way more talk minutes than is usual because of the
holidays.

No text, it's blocked on my phone and at VZW's website, no messaging,
just webbrowsing and email through BIS.


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Old 01-27-2010, 05:14 AM
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XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9D0CDE2048D3Axs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1:

> I think I'm a light user, I used 70.085 Mb of data and 47 minutes of
> talk between November 26 and December 25 of last year.


47 x .051 = $02.40
71 x 1.20 = $85.20
service $00.42
========
$88.02


>
> This month, December 26 to January 25, I used 66.671 Mb of data and 46
> minutes of talk.
>
>


46 x .051 = $02.35
67 x 1.20 = $80.40
service $00.42
======
$83.17

Nope....can't do that on PP per min prepaid.....

On Pageplus 1200+1200+50 I get:

21 x 1.20 = $25.20
1200+1200 = $26.42
========
$51.62

17 x 1.20 = $20.40
1200+1200 = $26.42
========
$46.82

Pageplus isn't for you. Too bad we can't wean you off cellular
internet!
$2.82 the first month
$2.77 the second month
Don't think the phone service could be any cheaper.

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Old 01-27-2010, 06:12 AM
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At 26 Jan 2010 21:50:09 -0700 XS11E wrote:
> Jason Bourne <jg@spy.net> wrote:
>
> > What do most folks average?
> >
> > What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes
> > surfing per day?

>
> I think I'm a light user, I used 70.085 Mb of data and 47 minutes of
> talk between November 26 and December 25 of last year.
>
> This month, December 26 to January 25, I used 66.671 Mb of data and 46
> minutes of talk.
>
> Both months show way more talk minutes than is usual because of the
> holidays.
>
> No text, it's blocked on my phone and at VZW's website, no messaging,
> just webbrowsing and email through BIS.


Before we give the OP a false sense of security, Blackberry servers
compress data sent to Blackberries. Other smartphones can use more data
doing the same things.

I use about 250 MB a month on a Windows phone, with light surfing, email
and usenet.



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Old 01-27-2010, 01:37 PM
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On 1/26/2010 20:19, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Jason Bourne wrote:
>> What do most folks average?
>>
>> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes
>> surfing per day?

>
> I'm an Ultra-light user. I don't text or e-mail using my phone. I use my
> computer to send and receive mail and to read newsgroups. I wouldn't
> want to lift that 21" monitor but it sure is easy to read mail on!
>
> While my phone is capable of e-mail, texting, and web surfing, the 3"
> display and lack of a querty keyboard make it a less than convenient
> device with which to send/receive mail and read newsgroups.


You keep on repeating what you don't like. How is that helpful? You do
know there are lots of mobile people who use smartphones every day to
good advantage?

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Old 01-27-2010, 01:41 PM
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On 1/26/2010 18:23, Jason Bourne wrote:
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?


According to the Pageplus fanboi your usage would make you a heavy duty
mega power user since "normal" users would only use the web 26 seconds/day.

I would say the usage you describe would be ~200 Mb



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Old 01-27-2010, 01:50 PM
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Jason Bourne wrote:
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?



Guys, guys-- what I'm just looking for here is info on typical data use
per month!

I've been with VZW since AirTouch days and I'm thinking about trading my
antique but perfectly functional LG VX10 for a smart phone. I can't
really evaluate the various plan options without some kind of estimate
of how much data I'm likely to use.

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Old 01-27-2010, 06:06 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> At 26 Jan 2010 21:50:09 -0700 XS11E wrote:


>> I think I'm a light user, I used 70.085 Mb of data and 47 minutes
>> of talk between November 26 and December 25 of last year.
>>
>> This month, December 26 to January 25, I used 66.671 Mb of data
>> and 46 minutes of talk.
>>
>> Both months show way more talk minutes than is usual because of
>> the holidays.
>>
>> No text, it's blocked on my phone and at VZW's website, no
>> messaging, just webbrowsing and email through BIS.

>
> Before we give the OP a false sense of security, Blackberry
> servers compress data sent to Blackberries. Other smartphones can
> use more data doing the same things.


I don't know what the compression ratio is but I doubt it's as much as
2:1 so if we ***-U-me that ratio my average would still be less than
140 Mb/month.

Again, I consider myself a light user.



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Old 01-27-2010, 06:14 PM
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Jason Bourne <jg@spy.net> wrote:

> Guys, guys-- what I'm just looking for here is info on typical
> data use per month!


Define "Typical".

> I've been with VZW since AirTouch days


Ditto.

> and I'm thinking about trading my antique but perfectly functional
> LG VX10 for a smart phone. I can't really evaluate the various
> plan options without some kind of estimate of how much data I'm
> likely to use.


It depends entirely on your particular usage, amount of emails, texts,
etc.

Try this: Look at your usage on your PC, you should get a feel for
amount of email, etc. maybe that'll help you make an estimate?

Next thought: Get the smart phone, sign up for a data plan and SEE what
your typical usage might be. Remember, you can return the phone within
the alloted time period and re-activate the LG VX10 or get another non-
smart phone and cancel the data plan.

Also, if your data usage (cost) exceeds your budget you can change to
an unlimited data plan.


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Old 01-27-2010, 06:27 PM
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Jason Bourne wrote:
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?


That's really hard to say.

Roger Entner, head of telecom research for Nielsen, said that the
typical smartphone customer consumes about 40 to 80 MBs of wireless
capacity a month, whereas the typical iPhone customer uses 400 MB a month.

But they never really define typical. The _average_ data usage of an
iPhone customer is of course more than 400MB because the heavy users
bring up the mean.

e-mails alone use very little data, and web surfing usage depends on the
type of sites, i.e. are there a lot of high resolution graphics, audio,
or video?

I'm a lighter user than what you define, probably 1/3 the usage, since I
use data over the 3G network only when there's no other alternative.

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:27 PM
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XS11E wrote:
> Jason Bourne <jg@spy.net> wrote:
>
>> Guys, guys-- what I'm just looking for here is info on typical
>> data use per month!

>
> Define "Typical".
>
>> I've been with VZW since AirTouch days

>
> Ditto.
>
>> and I'm thinking about trading my antique but perfectly functional
>> LG VX10 for a smart phone. I can't really evaluate the various
>> plan options without some kind of estimate of how much data I'm
>> likely to use.

>
> It depends entirely on your particular usage, amount of emails, texts,
> etc.
>
> Try this: Look at your usage on your PC, you should get a feel for
> amount of email, etc. maybe that'll help you make an estimate?
>
> Next thought: Get the smart phone, sign up for a data plan and SEE what
> your typical usage might be. Remember, you can return the phone within
> the alloted time period and re-activate the LG VX10 or get another non-
> smart phone and cancel the data plan.
>
> Also, if your data usage (cost) exceeds your budget you can change to
> an unlimited data plan.
>
>


Alas, the VX10 is not GPS enabled so can't be reactivated on VZW. If the
truth be told, I'm also looking real hard at the data plans at PagePlus
and StraightTalk..

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:41 PM
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Jason Bourne wrote:

> Alas, the VX10 is not GPS enabled so can't be reactivated on VZW. If the
> truth be told, I'm also looking real hard at the data plans at PagePlus
> and StraightTalk..


No, you don't have to drop your VX10 and current Verizon service while
you experiment with a smart phone and a data plan to see how much you'll
use.

What happens when people have unlimited data plans is that they don't
even think about using data, and it's almost like they're at an
all-you-can-eat buffet where you eat as much as you can to get your
money's worth. When you're on a limited plan, or paying by the MB, you
use 3G data when there's no WiFi or DSL available, and you don't do
things like stream Pandora to your car radio!

Remember, with Straight Talk there is NO ROAMING for voice or for data.
It's a great deal if you can live with that (and all the other
restrictions in the terms of service).

Another new option is the unlimited data on the iPad for $30 a month, or
250MB for $15 a month. This is a very good deal if an iPad suits your
needs and if you live with AT&T 3G. Of course you have to buy a 3G iPad
which isn't cheap, but compared to the unsubsidized price of some of the
3G smart phones it's not a bad deal.

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Old 01-28-2010, 01:11 AM
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On 1/27/2010 16:41, SMS wrote:
> Jason Bourne wrote:
>
>> Alas, the VX10 is not GPS enabled so can't be reactivated on VZW. If
>> the truth be told, I'm also looking real hard at the data plans at
>> PagePlus and StraightTalk..

>
> No, you don't have to drop your VX10 and current Verizon service while
> you experiment with a smart phone and a data plan to see how much you'll
> use.
>
> What happens when people have unlimited data plans is that they don't
> even think about using data, and it's almost like they're at an
> all-you-can-eat buffet where you eat as much as you can to get your
> money's worth. When you're on a limited plan, or paying by the MB, you
> use 3G data when there's no WiFi or DSL available, and you don't do
> things like stream Pandora to your car radio!


That would be you assuming what people do. I know what my usage is and I
also know what how much my playing usage is. I think very few people
would be happy with your idea of what "light" usage might be and would
want to restrict their usage to a few minutes/day to use Pageplus.

>
> Remember, with Straight Talk there is NO ROAMING for voice or for data.
> It's a great deal if you can live with that (and all the other
> restrictions in the terms of service).
>
> Another new option is the unlimited data on the iPad for $30 a month, or
> 250MB for $15 a month. This is a very good deal if an iPad suits your
> needs and if you live with AT&T 3G. Of course you have to buy a 3G iPad
> which isn't cheap, but compared to the unsubsidized price of some of the
> 3G smart phones it's not a bad deal.



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Old 01-28-2010, 01:58 AM
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Jason Bourne wrote:
> Jason Bourne wrote:
>> What do most folks average?
>>
>> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes
>> surfing per day?

>
>
> Guys, guys-- what I'm just looking for here is info on typical data use
> per month!
>
> I've been with VZW since AirTouch days and I'm thinking about trading my
> antique but perfectly functional LG VX10 for a smart phone. I can't
> really evaluate the various plan options without some kind of estimate
> of how much data I'm likely to use.


Do you expect US to know how much data you are likely to use? If you
don't text, don't e-mail, don't surf the web and don't download music or
videos to your phone, you won't use any data. If you do any of the
above, your data usage will be greater than zero. How much data you
will use is largely up to you.

Each character sent or received is one byte of data. Pictures or videos
use a LOT of data. Each color "pixel" may use three bytes of data.
The instruction manual for your phone may tell you the screen resolution
in pixels and, perhaps, also the "color resolution" or how many
different colors can be displayed.

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:31 AM
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"Jason Bourne" <jg@spy.net> wrote in message
news:hjntgq$l81$1@news.albasani.net...
> What do most folks average?
>
> What about a light user-- maybe a dozen emails and 15-20 minutes surfing
> per day?


Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Verizon only offered their Unlimited
Data Plan for "smartphones" ($30 per month for personal use [BIS], $45 for
business use [BES]), and that all "smartphones" required a data plan. So
light, average, or heavy use really isn't the question. It cost is the same
regardless. While the plan supposedly allows unlimited use, I believe
Verizon has the right to "throttle" it back if you exceed 5GB useage in any
billing cycle. Unless you listen to Pandora or Slacker radio, spend all day
on Facebook, or have an open RSS feed, etc. you probably will never use 5GB.
I use about 25MB per cycle, and have never exceeded 50MB in what I would
call normal use.


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Old 01-28-2010, 06:41 AM
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At 27 Jan 2010 13:41:51 -0800 SMS wrote:

> Another new option is the unlimited data on the iPad for $30 a month,
> or 250MB for $15 a month. This is a very good deal if an iPad suits
> your needs and if you live with AT&T 3G. Of course you have to buy a 3G
> iPad which isn't cheap, but compared to the unsubsidized price of some
> of the 3G smart phones it's not a bad deal.



Using that logic, you can buy an Amazon Kindle for $250 and get free 3G
data service, albeit on a device with a black and white display and a
cellphone-esque web browser.



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