I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
explanation or suggestions?
KyleDP123@lycos.com wrote in news:1172163119.471756.253040
@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
> work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
> but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
> guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
> I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
> explanation or suggestions?
>
>
Verizon, Sprint and Alltel all used to roam on each other's systems, here
in SC. Coverage was great! But, alas, none of them realized how shitty
all their systems were and that so MUCH unpaid-for roaming would go on.
Suddenly, quietly, without notification, with a little PRL change, phones
suddenly refused to roam any more and read, still do, NO SERVICE in the
Dead Zones, even though you're staring at a Sprint tower. Users got wind
of this and stopped upgrading their PRLs. The old PRLs would STILL roam.
The carriers retaliated by changing their systems to refuse any calls
from the other carriers, about a year later. It was nice while it
lasted.
Verizon refuses to roam anywhere in SC. Alltel still roams free in the
mountainous NW of SC above Clinton, SC, up I-26. Sprint just stopped
roaming, too, as far as I know. Not sure what Sprint's doing now. Every
time I roamed an old VZW PRL over there, they simply refused the call.
>I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
>work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
>but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
>guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
>I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
>explanation or suggestions?
VZW used to roam on Sprint, but from what I heard, they were charging
VZW too much money. So in most areas Sprint is no longer a roaming
partner.
VZW's favorite roaming partner is Alltel, but in many areas VZW is
building their own towers.
I can drive 35 miles west of where I live and it will still roam on
Alltel since VZW does not (yet) have native coverage.
More and more areas of the country are now native VZW, so they're
cutting back on the roaming agreements. But some of these new areas
are in the 1900 MHz PCS band, which I find to be inferior to the 800
Mhz band.
If you want to see the roaming partners for VZW or any othe CDMA type
carrier, go here:
<KyleDP123@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1172163119.471756.253040@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
> work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
> but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
> guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
> I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
> explanation or suggestions?
>
>
I'm on Alltel with the latest PRL. Be informed this roaming agreement
allows Alltel and Sprint customers to use each others system IN PLACES
WHERE THERE IS NO NATIVE COVERAGE. Alltel's PRL specifically forbids
roaming onto Sprint's PCS IN-MARKET where Alltel is supposed to provide
service. You can still be standing in the shadow of the other system's
tower and be dropping calls like a hot potatoe because you're not allowed
to use the BEST tower, just your own tower.....dammit FCC!
Larry
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to inside the USA, 1 mile, we turn it into our OPEN PIT nuclear
waste dump, turning it into a no-mans-land for tens of thousands
of years. Anyone attempting to cross will simply be eaten alive
by neutrons! Problem solved!
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:21:45 -0500, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>I'm on Alltel with the latest PRL. Be informed this roaming agreement
>allows Alltel and Sprint customers to use each others system IN PLACES
>WHERE THERE IS NO NATIVE COVERAGE. Alltel's PRL specifically forbids
>roaming onto Sprint's PCS IN-MARKET where Alltel is supposed to provide
>service. You can still be standing in the shadow of the other system's
>tower and be dropping calls like a hot potatoe because you're not allowed
>to use the BEST tower, just your own tower.....dammit FCC!
Nothing to do with the FCC. Its a business practice. VZW does the same
thing.
Diamond Dave <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:n7bdu2lpj2j7mmd6cqgcf78que5ofilrff@4ax.com:
> Nothing to do with the FCC. Its a business practice. VZW does the same
> thing.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
FCC is tasked with providing the public with rules and regulations on its
public carriers, including Verizon Wireless, that use the public's
airwaves and sell to the public services on those airwaves. This has
everything to do with the FCC, providing the public with an enforced
level of service over the area the FCC has licensed the carriers (or
their bogus network companies, it matters not) to provide. FCC regulates
the signal, regulates to minimize interference and is supposed to protect
the public it is supposed to serve against being ripped off.
IF the FCC did its job, it would matter not what Verizon's "business
practices" were. Unfortunately, I don't think the FCC has done its job
since the lawyers took over the FCC away from those staunch engineers
that provided great service to the public on their airwaves. The FCC now
acts like a park service that's auctioning off the forest it has been
tasked with protecting to the logging companies for money....the only
thing lawyers understand. We do still control the licensing of cellular
providers and can FORCE, if necessary, them to provide a decent level of
service to more than just the highest profit areas in the big cities.
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns98E67B8A468Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
> Diamond Dave <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:n7bdu2lpj2j7mmd6cqgcf78que5ofilrff@4ax.com:
>
>> Nothing to do with the FCC. Its a business practice. VZW does the
>> same thing.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
> FCC is tasked with providing the public with rules and regulations on
> its public carriers, including Verizon Wireless, that use the public's
> airwaves and sell to the public services on those airwaves. This has
> everything to do with the FCC, providing the public with an enforced
> level of service over the area the FCC has licensed the carriers (or
> their bogus network companies, it matters not) to provide. FCC
> regulates the signal, regulates to minimize interference and is
> supposed to protect the public it is supposed to serve against being
> ripped off.
>
Yeah- for evidence of their successful efforts, see Cable Television.
Their decision to not force sharing of transmission lines (as they did with
telephone) was certainly in the best interest of the consumer.
The FCC has nothing to do with roaming.
Their only jurisdiction is with a license holder, in the area they hold the license.
Roaming is a completely different thing, consisting of intercarrier agreements.
Absolutely no FCC involvement whatsoever.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns98E67B8A468Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Diamond Dave <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:n7bdu2lpj2j7mmd6cqgcf78que5ofilrff@4ax.com:
>
>> Nothing to do with the FCC. Its a business practice. VZW does the same
>> thing.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
> FCC is tasked with providing the public with rules and regulations on its
> public carriers, including Verizon Wireless, that use the public's
> airwaves and sell to the public services on those airwaves. This has
> everything to do with the FCC, providing the public with an enforced
> level of service over the area the FCC has licensed the carriers (or
> their bogus network companies, it matters not) to provide. FCC regulates
> the signal, regulates to minimize interference and is supposed to protect
> the public it is supposed to serve against being ripped off.
>
> IF the FCC did its job, it would matter not what Verizon's "business
> practices" were. Unfortunately, I don't think the FCC has done its job
> since the lawyers took over the FCC away from those staunch engineers
> that provided great service to the public on their airwaves. The FCC now
> acts like a park service that's auctioning off the forest it has been
> tasked with protecting to the logging companies for money....the only
> thing lawyers understand. We do still control the licensing of cellular
> providers and can FORCE, if necessary, them to provide a decent level of
> service to more than just the highest profit areas in the big cities.
>
> Larry
> --
One day, I was at a CompUSA in Sunrise, Fla. I noticed that my phone was
roaming? Well a quik call to 611 revealed it was roaming on Sprint, so there
u have it!
<KyleDP123@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1172163119.471756.253040@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
> work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
> but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
> guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
> I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
> explanation or suggestions?
>
Ray Dios wrote:
> One day, I was at a CompUSA in Sunrise, Fla. I noticed that my phone was
> roaming? Well a quik call to 611 revealed it was roaming on Sprint, so there
> u have it!
In article <nogGh.1348$68.284@bignews8.bellsouth.net>, Ray Dios wrote:
> One day, I was at a CompUSA in Sunrise, Fla. I noticed that my phone was
> roaming? Well a quik call to 611 revealed it was roaming on Sprint, so there
> u have it!
Who you roam on depends on where you are.
Verizon probably doesn't roam on Sprint in Ann Arbor because (as I
understand it) Sprint doesn't have good coverage in MI outside Detroit.
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It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
Just yesterday, I hear "extended network" from my Q...
I do a quick ##* send to have a look at the SID.....
04186 - Sprint (latest PRL 50722 - Seattle area)
<KyleDP123@lycos.com> wrote in message news:1172163119.471756.253040@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>I live in Ann Arbor, MI, in a building where Verizon literally doesn't
> work one step into the doorway. Sprint has better coverage right here,
> but I guess if I could roam on Sprint, my phone would work too? So I'm
> guessing Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? That's unfortunate because
> I'm pretty sure Sprint roams on Verizon. I'm on a current AC plan. Any
> explanation or suggestions?
>
"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
news:xPidnSJ7E6aMKHTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@giganews.com ...
>I guess it totally depends on where you are.
>
> Just yesterday, I hear "extended network" from my Q...
>
> I do a quick ##* send to have a look at the SID.....
>
> 04186 - Sprint (latest PRL 50722 - Seattle area)
>
>
That's strange, I just dialed that from my LG VX4400 and I got a
"disconnected/invalid phone number" error message--
##* - send is a backdoor into the MOTOROLA Q's field test mode menu....
I wouldn't ever expect it to work on an LG phone
Probably not even other Motorola's....
"Special Ed" <ed@class> wrote in message news:7oednf1VSM8oK3TYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
> news:xPidnSJ7E6aMKHTYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>I guess it totally depends on where you are.
>>
>> Just yesterday, I hear "extended network" from my Q...
>>
>> I do a quick ##* send to have a look at the SID.....
>>
>> 04186 - Sprint (latest PRL 50722 - Seattle area)
>>
>>
>
> That's strange, I just dialed that from my LG VX4400 and I got a "disconnected/invalid phone number" error message--
>
"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
news:zs2dnSPA35YMJXTYnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@giganews.com :
> ##* - send is a backdoor into the MOTOROLA Q's field test mode menu....
>
>
Thanks. Got any more in a list? I've always left my V60i in test mode,
but have forgotten how to put one into test mode that isn't already...(c;
Larry
--
If the damned government isn't going to enforce
immigration laws, can they at LEAST park an ICE
paddy wagon in front of WalMart so I can find
a parking place and make the checkout line SHORTER?!
Diamond Dave <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ekuju257bh7dl16comuc8oc5ant619b9ql@4ax.com:
> ##33284 (##DEBUG)
>
> The last "4" won't show when its dialed.
>
>
>
Thanks! I'd forgotten it. That was years ago...(c;
Larry
--
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immigration laws, can they at LEAST park an ICE
paddy wagon in front of WalMart so I can find
a parking place and make the checkout line SHORTER?!
Verizon doesn't roam on Sprint? 
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