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Old 05-16-2007, 07:30 PM
alien
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Default verizon internet data plan

hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a month
data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs a month. I
am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier service and go
over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on top of that
downloading music and a game here and there I would most likely go over 5
gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on dial up. Just needing
thoughts.

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Old 05-16-2007, 11:59 PM
Larry
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alien <aliensoul69_is_here@oo.com> wrote in
news:Xns99329353A2B19aliensoul69ishereyoc@216.151. 153.41:

> hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a
> month data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs
> a month. I am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier
> service and go over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on
> top of that downloading music and a game here and there I would most
> likely go over 5 gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on
> dial up. Just needing thoughts.
>


Read it closer:

"UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be
used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like
customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or
host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera
posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine
connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute
or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by
way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet,
downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets
is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services
and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is
prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one
hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited
uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a
month.

For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We
reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and
to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is
using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or
whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using
more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the
service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to
immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We
also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer
Agreement term..."

It's NOT internet service....it's WEBPAGES and EMAIL and your company
intranet O-N-L-Y! NO DOWNLOADING, NO FTP, NO FILE SHARING, NO VOIP, NO
NOTHING!....Webpage spam and email....USELESS!

And, don't be clickin' up any of those webpages with STREAMING on it,
either!.....


Larry
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:54 AM
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Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns9932CBC0558A2noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:

> alien <aliensoul69_is_here@oo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns99329353A2B19aliensoul69ishereyoc@216.151. 153.41:
>
>> hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a
>> month data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs
>> a month. I am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier
>> service and go over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on
>> top of that downloading music and a game here and there I would most
>> likely go over 5 gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on
>> dial up. Just needing thoughts.
>>

>
> Read it closer:
>
> "UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
> Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
> BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY
> be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
> browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
> corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications
> like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
> automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
> any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
> limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
> streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices
> or host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web
> camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated
> machine–to–machine connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or
> (iii) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data
> connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email,
> surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or
> visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies
> using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals
> for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited
> uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs,
> or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week,
> could use more than 5 GBs in a month.
>
> For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
> protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows.
> We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data
> transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to
> anyone we believe is using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any
> manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network
> or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given
> month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited
> above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service
> of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to
> terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term..."
>
> It's NOT internet service....it's WEBPAGES and EMAIL and your company
> intranet O-N-L-Y! NO DOWNLOADING, NO FTP, NO FILE SHARING, NO VOIP,
> NO NOTHING!....Webpage spam and email....USELESS!
>
> And, don't be clickin' up any of those webpages with STREAMING on it,
> either!.....
>
>
> Larry


yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.

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Old 05-17-2007, 01:11 AM
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> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.


You made a wise choice.



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Old 05-17-2007, 03:31 AM
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Mij Adyaw wrote:
>> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
>> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
>> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
>> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
>> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.

>
> You made a wise choice.


Until you find out how lousy their service is!



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Old 05-17-2007, 05:09 AM
Larry
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alien <aliensoul69_is_here@oo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9932D3FA9621Daliensoul69ishereyoc@216.151. 153.21:

> I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.


Load the hell out of Sprint EVDO during this 30 days and see if they cancel
or bitch at you. I think they ALL have similar statements in their AUPs,
some just enforced more heavily than others. If they bitch, you just dump
'em during your 30 day period. Connect to a big binary usenet server
through it and download movies from alt.binaries.movies.divx. I'm working
on about 42GB tonight and tomorrow....

Larry
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:26 AM
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 05:09:46 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>alien <aliensoul69_is_here@oo.com> wrote in
>news:Xns9932D3FA9621Daliensoul69ishereyoc@216.151 .153.21:
>
>> I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.

>
>Load the hell out of Sprint EVDO during this 30 days and see if they cancel
>or bitch at you. I think they ALL have similar statements in their AUPs,
>some just enforced more heavily than others. If they bitch, you just dump
>'em during your 30 day period. Connect to a big binary usenet server
>through it and download movies from alt.binaries.movies.divx. I'm working
>on about 42GB tonight and tomorrow....


Thief.


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Old 05-17-2007, 06:33 AM
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"Pegleg" <peglegjones@retirednavy.mil> wrote in message
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> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>>> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
>>> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
>>> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
>>> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
>>> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.

>>
>> You made a wise choice.

>
> Until you find out how lousy their service is!
>
>

No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed in the
clever Verizon Advertisments. Our company has both Verizon and Sprint phones
and has a contract with both companies. In Southern California, Sprint and
Verizon are equal. In other areas throughout the USA they are also quite
equal. It is important to understand that Sprint has some of the best
roaming agreements. If you do not get a Sprint signal, you will roam for
free on Verizon or Alltel. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds and
also true unlimited data.

Also, I have no personal interest in Sprint. I was drinking the Verizon
Kool-aid for the past 10 years (they were Airtouch Cellular at that time). I
was convinced that Sprint was garbage until I was forced to try them because
Verizon does not provide a signal at my home. Sprint has really improved and
with the Nextel acquisition, has added CDMA to most of the existing Nextel
towers.

Do some research and don't swallow the Kool-aid like I did for so many
years. No cell phone provider is the best. They all have their advantages
and disadvantages.




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Old 05-17-2007, 11:26 AM
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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> "Pegleg" <peglegjones@retirednavy.mil> wrote in message
> news:mqSdnZKiGYw-UdbbnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>>>> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
>>>> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
>>>> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
>>>> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
>>>> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.
>>> You made a wise choice.

>> Until you find out how lousy their service is!
>>
>>

> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed in the
> clever Verizon Advertisments. Our company has both Verizon and Sprint phones
> and has a contract with both companies. In Southern California, Sprint and
> Verizon are equal. In other areas throughout the USA they are also quite
> equal.



But that wouldn't be my area or the nearby states. I could care less who
the carrier might be I just want good service. If you go into the local
mall here there are always 3 people kept busy in the Verizon kiosk. The
Sprint kiosk usually features someone leaning on the counter waiting for
business.




It is important to understand that Sprint has some of the best
> roaming agreements. If you do not get a Sprint signal, you will roam for
> free on Verizon or Alltel. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds and
> also true unlimited data.
>
> Also, I have no personal interest in Sprint. I was drinking the Verizon
> Kool-aid for the past 10 years (they were Airtouch Cellular at that time). I
> was convinced that Sprint was garbage until I was forced to try them because
> Verizon does not provide a signal at my home. Sprint has really improved and
> with the Nextel acquisition, has added CDMA to most of the existing Nextel
> towers.
>
> Do some research and don't swallow the Kool-aid like I did for so many
> years. No cell phone provider is the best. They all have their advantages
> and disadvantages.
>
>
>


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Old 05-17-2007, 12:44 PM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:31:49 -0700, Pegleg
<peglegjones@retirednavy.mil> wrote:

>Mij Adyaw wrote:
>>> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
>>> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
>>> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
>>> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
>>> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.

>>
>> You made a wise choice.

>
>Until you find out how lousy their service is!
>

I just came from a 30 day try out at sprint. Yep you will be back.
By the way when you are on hold 45 mins and then find out the 30 days
are not free let the group know will ya. In the plan you will pay %100
of air time at the min rate. You will not get your money back on the
air card untill 2 billing cycles. Approx 90 days when you get it.
Like a free loan to them. It took me only 2 days to return the card.
I drive a semi and from cincinnati to just pittsburg it dropped 3
times and every time took close to 5 miles or 5mins to refind a tower.

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Old 05-17-2007, 02:24 PM
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"Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com> wrote:

> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed
> in the clever Verizon Advertisments.


Hogwash, we're drinking in the customer satisfaction results compiled
by the University of Michigan's National Quality Research Center which
compiles the American Customer Satisfaction Index.

Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.

http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?opt...Partnership%29

Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vb358

Next time know what your talking about before opening your mouth and
making a fool of yourself, OK?



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Old 05-17-2007, 06:40 PM
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On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com> wrote:
>
>> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed
>> in the clever Verizon Advertisments.

>
> Hogwash, we're drinking in the customer satisfaction results compiled
> by the University of Michigan's National Quality Research Center which
> compiles the American Customer Satisfaction Index.
>
> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.


I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.

Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.
Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in frustration. I
lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 05-17-2007, 07:30 PM
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Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:


>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest
>> of all.

>
> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in
> particular, or T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.


Correct, it only shows customer's service experiences.

> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of
> any carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this
> better. Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in
> frustration. I lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to
> Verizon, however, and I've come to the conclusion that I would
> have been better off with a Sprint data plan where I live than the
> Verizon plan I have now, even though I don't have trouble with the
> 5 GB limit.


Any plan with coverage in your area is OK as long as you don't have any
problems that require contacting customer service. Customer service is
the same for any industry, how good/bad it is make absolutely no
difference until you need to use it, only then do people realize
they've made a horrible mistake. If the original poster never needs
Sprint's customer non-service he'll be OK.

Sites such as http://www.theacsi.org/ can only help people who check
such things prior to signing up.



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Old 05-17-2007, 08:02 PM
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Dennis Ferguson wrote:

> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier,


I don't know about that Verizon spent 10+ months trying to figure
out why my bill was screwed up every month .. finally fixed it by
changing my plan.. at least I hope it is fixed .. we will see next month!!
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:58 PM
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At 17 May 2007 13:40:50 -0500 Dennis Ferguson wrote:

> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
> T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.


It was a Customer Satisfaction survey only.

> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.



According to a Sprint-management friend of mine, between Sprint and Nextel,
they have THOUSANDS of rate plans in the system counting the grandfathered,
obsolete, and regional plans. This makes it difficult and time consuming
for reps to fix incorrect plans and codes. They are hoping to prune it
down to about four hundred this year!

> I
> lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
> I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
> a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
> though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.


Yeah, but you might want to consider leveraging that limit into leaving
Verizon without an ETF! ;-)


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Old 05-18-2007, 04:25 AM
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XS11E wrote:
> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.


Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got numbers about
data-customer satisfaction.

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Old 05-18-2007, 05:22 AM
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clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest
>> of all.

>
> Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got numbers
> about data-customer satisfaction.


You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post before
replying you'd have seen the URLs.

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Old 05-18-2007, 07:01 AM
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XS11E wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest
>>> of all.

>>
>> Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got numbers
>> about data-customer satisfaction.

>
> You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post before
> replying you'd have seen the URLs.


In <Xns99334B4D7C7AFxs11eyahoocom@69.28.173.184>, XS11E wrote:
> http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?opt...Partnership%29
> Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vb358


It appears they are scoring "Wireless Telephone Service", not data service
but all service. So, looking at the subject, I'm still compelled to ask
where you got numbers about data-customer satisfaction.

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Old 05-18-2007, 07:24 AM
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clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> XS11E wrote:
>>>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>>>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest
>>>> of all.


>>> Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got
>>> numbers about data-customer satisfaction.


>> You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post
>> before replying you'd have seen the URLs.


> It appears they are scoring "Wireless Telephone Service", not data
> service but all service. So, looking at the subject, I'm still
> compelled to ask where you got numbers about data-customer
> satisfaction.


I see, you missed the change. The topic is now customer satisfaction,
not data-customer satisfaction. As is typical of Usenet, the subject
was changed, hijacked if you will. See Mij Adyaw's post of Wednesday,
May 16th which is the post to which I replied.

Please try to keep up, OK? ;-)


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Old 05-18-2007, 07:47 AM
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Is the 5GB limit the same as the Unlimited plan ?

Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
it's very much limited in transfer amount.

"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed
>>> in the clever Verizon Advertisments.

>>
>> Hogwash, we're drinking in the customer satisfaction results compiled
>> by the University of Michigan's National Quality Research Center which
>> compiles the American Customer Satisfaction Index.
>>
>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.

>
> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
> T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.
>
> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.
> Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in frustration. I
> lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
> I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
> a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
> though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.
>
> Dennis Ferguson



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Old 05-18-2007, 12:19 PM
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> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.


Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice minutes.

-Frank

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Old 05-18-2007, 12:36 PM
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Never said it did. What I was saying is. Verizon tells everyone that there
"Unlimited" data plan is "Unlimited" Which in fact it is "Limited"


"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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>> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
>> it's very much limited in transfer amount.

>
> Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice
> minutes.
>
> -Frank



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Old 05-18-2007, 01:41 PM
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The data plan is UNLIMITED regarding the TIME you are using data services.
(In contrast to the voice minutes which ARE limited by time)

Remember the dial-up ISP ads? Remember when ISPs used to charge by minutes
on-line? Remember UNLIMITED plans? (no on-line time limit)?

Bottom line... exactly *what* is unlimited is never defined. So... everyone
sees what they want to see in that word. The company and the consumers.

-Frank

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Never said it did. What I was saying is. Verizon tells everyone that there
> "Unlimited" data plan is "Unlimited" Which in fact it is "Limited"
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:RbidnUxRF59xBNDbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
>>> it's very much limited in transfer amount.

>>
>> Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice
>> minutes.
>>
>> -Frank

>



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Old 05-18-2007, 03:38 PM
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XS11E wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> XS11E wrote:
>>> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> XS11E wrote:
>>>>> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
>>>>> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest
>>>>> of all.

>
>>>> Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got
>>>> numbers about data-customer satisfaction.

>
>>> You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post
>>> before replying you'd have seen the URLs.

>
>> It appears they are scoring "Wireless Telephone Service", not data
>> service but all service. So, looking at the subject, I'm still
>> compelled to ask where you got numbers about data-customer
>> satisfaction.

>
> I see, you missed the change. The topic is now customer satisfaction,
> not data-customer satisfaction. As is typical of Usenet, the subject
> was changed, hijacked if you will. See Mij Adyaw's post of Wednesday,
> May 16th which is the post to which I replied.
>
> Please try to keep up, OK? ;-)


You know Usenet; not everybody catches (and remembers) every article.
But in the meantime, I've already talked one Sprint customer into being
a former customer; he's much happier with T-Mobile, and I don't have
to put up with his dropped calls. Sprint may be good in some areas,
but (at least as of a couple of years ago) they sucked around here.

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Old 05-18-2007, 03:39 PM
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Frankster wrote:
>> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
>> it's very much limited in transfer amount.

>
> Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice minutes.


I suppose one can call it unlimited in the sense of "you can call it
'unlimited' all you like and it still won't be unlimited," too.

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Old 05-18-2007, 04:28 PM
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clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:

> You know Usenet; not everybody catches (and remembers) every
> article.


I know, I've the same problem trying to use OE at work since I delete
everything when I close a group. I use Xnews and I store nothing and
also delete all headers and messages every time I close it but when I
read an article it takes only one mouse click to bring up the parent
article and ctr U will bring up the entire thread. I've never found
out how to do that in Knode or Pan so I usually don't bother reading
newsgroups when I boot into Linux. To use Linux regularly I'd have to
get Xnews running under Wine, I've hear it's doable.

> But in the meantime, I've already talked one Sprint
> customer into being a former customer; he's much happier with
> T-Mobile, and I don't have to put up with his dropped calls.


I've only been with Verizon for around 7 years, since they were
Airtouch, so I don't have that much experience but so far, dropped
calls = 0. Funny, I've use my phone all over the US and never dropped
a call but I usually keep my calls fairly short, that may be why?

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Old 05-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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On 2007-05-18, Kevin Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Is the 5GB limit the same as the Unlimited plan ?


Yes.

> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.


I guess so, but I'd note that the Terms and Conditions I've looked
at for all data plans from all carriers give them sufficient lattitude to
kick you off if you do something they don't like, with what that might
be being at the carrier's discretion. Verizon is just a little more
specific about what they won't like than the others.

It would certainly be fair to say that in practice Verizon's limits are
likely more limited than the (unspecified) limits the other carriers might
want to enforce, since Verizon is the only carrier I've seen reports of
people actually being kicked off of so far.

I suspect Verizon's data service already has some load problems where I
live anyway (the downside of being able to get by with fewer towers at
800 MHz?), so maybe they think it is a good thing their limit is
smaller and well publicized.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 05-18-2007, 08:10 PM
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On 2007-05-17, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 17 May 2007 13:40:50 -0500 Dennis Ferguson wrote:
>> I
>> lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
>> I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
>> a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
>> though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.

>
> Yeah, but you might want to consider leveraging that limit into leaving
> Verizon without an ETF! ;-)


I'm sort of working on that this month, but I felt a bit guilty about
just hammering it so I'm attempting it with "normal" usage by just leaving
my laptop on the data card as much as possible rather than connecting to
my home network at home and work network at work.

If this doesn't do it I'll need to think about what to do next month.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:59 PM
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The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
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> On Thu, 17 May 2007 05:09:46 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>alien <aliensoul69_is_here@oo.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns9932D3FA9621Daliensoul69ishereyoc@216.15 1.153.21:
>>
>>> I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.

>>
>>Load the hell out of Sprint EVDO during this 30 days and see if they
>>cancel or bitch at you. I think they ALL have similar statements in
>>their AUPs, some just enforced more heavily than others. If they
>>bitch, you just dump 'em during your 30 day period. Connect to a big
>>binary usenet server through it and download movies from
>>alt.binaries.movies.divx. I'm working on about 42GB tonight and
>>tomorrow....

>
> Thief.
>
>


What the hell are you talking about? He's on Sprint PAYING FOR SERVICE.

How does that make HIM a thief?

Horseshit!@

Larry
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:06 PM
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"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:kTc3i.789
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> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.
>


Whoa, Kevin! Transfer? No file transfers are allowed!....(c;

Verboten.....Ve haf our ways of dealing vit "transfers"....Col. Klink.

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