At 26 Feb 2012 20:21:10 -0800 SMS wrote:
> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto Mojave
> Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>
> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when outside
> Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>
> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers, Golden
> State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
I would imagine those carriers have a number of customers who are
perfectly happy with them. If Verizon wants to cover those areas they
can negotiate a roaming agreement, or buy licenses for those areas and
build out a network. We need more carriers and competition, not less!
> I would imagine those carriers have a number of customers who are
> perfectly happy with them. If Verizon wants to cover those areas they
> can negotiate a roaming agreement, or buy licenses for those areas and
> build out a network.
Verizon does have roaming agreements, but the agreements don't cover
Pageplus.
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:52:23 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>On 2/26/2012 8:47 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> I would imagine those carriers have a number of customers who are
>> perfectly happy with them. If Verizon wants to cover those areas they
>> can negotiate a roaming agreement, or buy licenses for those areas and
>> build out a network.
>
>Verizon does have roaming agreements, but the agreements don't cover
>Pageplus.
That's just the price you pay for the price you don't pay.
At 26 Feb 2012 20:52:23 -0800 SMS wrote:
> On 2/26/2012 8:47 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> > I would imagine those carriers have a number of customers who are
> > perfectly happy with them. If Verizon wants to cover those areas they
> > can negotiate a roaming agreement, or buy licenses for those areas and
> > build out a network.
>
> Verizon does have roaming agreements, but the agreements don't cover
> Pageplus.
Well that's hardly an incentive for Verizon to buy up those carriers!
On 2/26/2012 10:35 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 26 Feb 2012 20:52:23 -0800 SMS wrote:
>> On 2/26/2012 8:47 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>>> I would imagine those carriers have a number of customers who are
>>> perfectly happy with them. If Verizon wants to cover those areas they
>>> can negotiate a roaming agreement, or buy licenses for those areas and
>>> build out a network.
>>
>> Verizon does have roaming agreements, but the agreements don't cover
>> Pageplus.
>
>
> Well that's hardly an incentive for Verizon to buy up those carriers!
>
I think the incentive is when it comes to data. Some of those smaller
carriers lack the funds to deploy 3G and LTE, or they are preventing
roaming customers from using data. That affects Verizon's actual customers.
> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto Mojave
> Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>
> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when
> outside Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>
> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers,
> Golden State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
I'm sure Verizon is really wanting a long, expensive fight with the
Feds over a couple of smaller carriers..... NOT!
On 2/27/2012 8:31 AM, XS11E wrote:
> SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto Mojave
>> Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>>
>> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when
>> outside Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>>
>> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers,
>> Golden State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
>
> I'm sure Verizon is really wanting a long, expensive fight with the
> Feds over a couple of smaller carriers..... NOT!
Nah, the Feds don't care about the smaller carriers, such acquisitions
happen all the time. Verizon already has a stake in many of these carriers.
>
>
> On 2/27/2012 8:31 AM, XS11E wrote:
>> SMS<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto
>>> Mojave Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>>>
>>> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when
>>> outside Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>>>
>>> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers,
>>> Golden State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
>>
>> I'm sure Verizon is really wanting a long, expensive fight with
>> the Feds over a couple of smaller carriers..... NOT!
>
> Nah, the Feds don't care about the smaller carriers, such
> acquisitions happen all the time. Verizon already has a stake in
> many of these carriers.
In the past you were correct but since the AT&T/T-Mobile deal set the
precedent no acquisition will go unchallenged, now. I doubt VZW (or
any major carrier) can even buy a box of staples w/o Sprint or AT&T
crying "FOUL" to the feds (and probably Apple suing for 'staple
infringement') <G>
In article <4f4b04b6$0$12031$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS says...
>
> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto Mojave
> Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>
> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when outside
> Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>
> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers, Golden
> State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
I thought they'd already BOUGHT Mohave. In 2003, when I moved from
Cleveland to Apple Valley, I came out on I-40 and roamed on Mohave
(analog, of course, as Mohave wasn't CDMA then) with my Verizon phone.
Would have been nice if it wasn't analog roaming, but...
On 2/28/2012 10:08 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article<4f4b04b6$0$12031$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS says...
>>
>> Traveling through Kingman AZ on Friday, I was roaming onto Mojave
>> Wireless on my Pageplus phone.
>>
>> Interesting that there is no roaming charges for texting when outside
>> Verizon's network, but voice roaming is rather pricey.
>>
>> Verizon should buy up the rest of the smaller CDMA carriers, Golden
>> State, Mohave, U.S. Cellular.
>
> I thought they'd already BOUGHT Mohave. In 2003, when I moved from
> Cleveland to Apple Valley, I came out on I-40 and roamed on Mohave
> (analog, of course, as Mohave wasn't CDMA then) with my Verizon phone.
Verizon has stakes in many of the smaller CDMA carriers, with roaming,
at least for voice, included at no extra charge on their own voice
plans. But for Verizon's MVNO's, roaming onto those other carriers is
not included.
Verizon needs to buy Mohave Wireless 
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