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Old 06-29-2007, 10:16 AM
Jeff
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Default Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt

With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.

But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.

The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.

Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
you the kit in the first place, but that another story.

So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
these stores won't have a line.




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Old 06-29-2007, 12:25 PM
Kuriashkin Victor
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Default Re: Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

Do you know that iPhone owners can use MSN on it?


On Jun 29, 2:16 pm, jeffrey...@hotmail.com (Jeff) wrote:
> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt
>
> With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
> to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
> or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
> week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
> Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.
>
> But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
> match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
> release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
> company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.
>
> The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
> phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
> deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
> TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
> cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.
>
> Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
> Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
> support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
> will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
> That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
> even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
> you the kit in the first place, but that another story.
>
> So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
> Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
> Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
> these stores won't have a line.




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Old 06-29-2007, 12:28 PM
Kuriashkin Victor
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Default Re: Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

I mean,

http://iphone-msn.com service.

User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari

On Jun 29, 4:25 pm, Kuriashkin Victor <vk4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know that iPhone owners can use MSN on it?
>
> On Jun 29, 2:16 pm, jeffrey...@hotmail.com (Jeff) wrote:
>
> >http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt

>
> > With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
> > to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
> > or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
> > week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
> > Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.

>
> > But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
> > match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
> > release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
> > company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.

>
> > The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
> > phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
> > deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
> > TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
> > cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.

>
> > Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
> > Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
> > support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
> > will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
> > That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
> > even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
> > you the kit in the first place, but that another story.

>
> > So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
> > Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
> > Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
> > these stores won't have a line.




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Old 06-29-2007, 12:52 PM
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net
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Default Re: Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

On 29 Jun 2007 10:16:34 -0000, jeffrey578@hotmail.com (Jeff) wrote:

>http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt
>
>With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
>to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
>or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
>week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
>Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.
>
>But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
>match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
>release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
>company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.
>
>The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
>phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
>deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
>TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
>cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.
>
>Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
>Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
>support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
>will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
>That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
>even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
>you the kit in the first place, but that another story.
>
>So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
>Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
>Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
>these stores won't have a line.
>
>


In a vain attempt to stop the churn of 1 million users to the iPhone
before years end, Verizon is waiving activation fees
untill July 9 at Circuit City locations.

As one reviewer said about the iPhone "You can use it
right away, no manual needed" , although one is included.

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Old 06-29-2007, 12:55 PM
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net
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Default Re: Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:28:53 -0700, Kuriashkin Victor
<vk4arm@gmail.com> wrote:

>I mean,
>
>http://iphone-msn.com service.
>
>User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari
>



If it's a him, he might want to download Playboy movies, formatted for
the iPhone.

http://www.playboy.com/style/feature...boy-video.html

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Old 06-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone


"Jeff" <jeffrey578@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Y4FN5BZJ39262.1781712963@anonymous.poster...
> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt
>
> With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
> to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
> or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement
> this
> week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home
> and
> Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.
>
> But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
> match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
> release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
> company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.
>
> The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
> phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a
> good
> deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
> TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
> cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.
>
> Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
> Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
> support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
> will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
> That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
> even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
> you the kit in the first place, but that another story.
>
> So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to
> leave
> Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
> Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
> these stores won't have a line.


I have used ATT and Verizon for at least twenty years, concurrently. Let me
assure you that ATT third rate. Verizon blows it away on a daily basis.
FYI: The "new" ATT is not anything like the "old" ATT.



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Old 06-29-2007, 01:25 PM
Kuriashkin Victor
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On Jun 29, 4:55 pm, karlkrand...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:28:53 -0700, Kuriashkin Victor
>
> <vk4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I mean,

>
> >http://iphone-msn.com service.

>
> >User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari

>
> If it's a him, he might want to download Playboy movies, formatted for
> the iPhone.
>
> http://www.playboy.com/style/feature...boy-video.html


no problem, but
0) porn is not good... at all. So + women and gays will be out of
market :-)
1) traffic is expensive... Students and middle-am's will not use it.
btw.
2) it is impossible to j$rk in metro :-) so, not wasp will not use it
at all
3)
4)
....

Messanger better :-)


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Old 06-29-2007, 02:30 PM
George Graves
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:16:34 -0700, Jeff wrote
(in article <Y4FN5BZJ39262.1781712963@anonymous.poster>):

> http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt
>
> With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
> to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
> or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
> week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
> Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.
>
> But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
> match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
> release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
> company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.
>
> The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
> phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
> deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
> TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
> cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.
>
> Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
> Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
> support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
> will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
> That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
> even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
> you the kit in the first place, but that another story.
>
> So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
> Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
> Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
> these stores won't have a line.
>
>
>


Is the iPhone locked? If it isn't, why wouldn't any GSM - based phone/data
system's SIM card work? I have a Blackberry 7100 that I don't use any more
for various reasons, but mostly due to it's lousy reception. When I bought
it, it came with T-Mobile service. After six months I got them to give me the
code to unlock the phone so that I could use pay-as-you-go phone service in
Europe (T-Mobile's roam charges overseas were outrageous - over a dollar a
minute at that time as I recall while TIM (Telecom Italia Mobilare) charged
less than US$0.30/min domestically). In an effort to get better coverage, I
switched from T-Mobile to Cingular after my service contract period was up.
All I had to do was remove the T-Moble SIM card and replace it with a
Cingular card and Voila! I had a Cingular Blackberry. It was then that I
found that it wasn't the service that had lousy coverage, it was the phone
itself, so I went down to the Cingular store and found a tiny blister-packed
'Go-Phone' (Motorola V190) for $30. I popped my SIM card out of the
Blackberry and into the Moto, and I've never looked back. The Blackberry now
resides in a bureau drawer, and Moto gives me 4-bars here at home where the
Blackberry barely gave one.

My point is that if GSM phones are unlocked, it looks as if you can use
anybody's service (as long as they are GSM).


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Old 06-29-2007, 04:18 PM
Larry
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jeffrey578@hotmail.com (Jeff) wrote in news:Y4FN5BZJ39262.1781712963
@anonymous.poster:

> But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
> match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day.


Where are they gonna get the chairs? There's none in the stores....(c;

Rental?

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Old 06-29-2007, 04:19 PM
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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote in
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> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:28:53 -0700, Kuriashkin Victor
> <vk4arm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I mean,
>>
>>http://iphone-msn.com service.
>>
>>User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari
>>

>
>
> If it's a him, he might want to download Playboy movies, formatted for
> the iPhone.
>
> http://www.playboy.com/style/feature...boy-video.html
>


Hope he's on wifi....AT&T forbids downloading and streaming...

Larry
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:20 PM
Larry
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Kuriashkin Victor <vk4arm@gmail.com> wrote in news:1183123526.491549.90390
@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> 2) it is impossible to j$rk in metro :-) so, not wasp will not use it
> at all
>


You sure about that??...(c;

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Old 06-29-2007, 04:39 PM
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On 29 Jun 2007 10:16:34 -0000, jeffrey578@hotmail.com (Jeff) wrote:

>http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-973...?tag=cnetfd.mt
>
>With the iPhone completely dominating cell phone news this week, it's easy
>to forget that other cell phones exist. Crave wonders why any manufacturer
>or service provider would see the PR benefit in making an announcement this
>week, but that hasn't stopped T-Mobile from unveiling its Hotspot @Home and
>Sprint from taking the wraps off its new LG Muziq phone.
>
>But today Verizon Wireless revealed that it was hosting its own party to
>match the Apple and AT&T events on the iPhone launch day. In a press
>release, the carrier invites shoppers to test-drive "the leading wireless
>company with the most reliable voice and data network". Meow.
>
>The carrier also invites shoppers to check out its selection of music cell
>phones, including the LG VX9400, which is on sale for $99.99. That's a good
>deal for a cool phone, but the keep in mind that the spiffy V Cast Mobile
>TV service (something the VX9400 supports) is available only in a few
>cities. Yet unlike the iPhone, the LG handset does offer 3G.
>
>Buyers will also be able to download songs wirelessly at the stores from
>Verizon's V Cast Music service. As everyone knows, the iPhone will not
>support tune downloads over the air. But the best news is that customers
>will get a free Music Essentials kit, which normally sets you back $30.
>That's exceedingly generous of Verizon, considering the kit is needed to
>even sync a phone with a PC. We don't know why Verizon just doesn't give
>you the kit in the first place, but that another story.
>
>So if you've decided you're too cool for the iPhone, or you refuse to leave
>Verizon for AT&T, you'll be pleased to know that Verizon has you covered.
>Verizon stores and kiosks will stay open until 9 p.m. And you can be sure
>these stores won't have a line.
>
>

So what your saying is the blood sucking verizon will continue to
screw over there customers by forcing them to pay full price for half
a phone. And if they do not feel it's crippled enough they will give
you a free software upgrade to lock up anything they forgot about the
first time...
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:29 PM
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On 2007-06-29, George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:


> Is the iPhone locked?


I'm sure it is, but Cingular will unlock it after several months. T-Mobile has
a similar policy. But both initially sell their phones SIM-locked.



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Old 06-30-2007, 02:22 AM
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Pegleg wrote:

> Big deal...Lame...if you use "My Account" on line Verizon never
> charges an activation fee.


How do you use "My Account" when you are setting up new service and
being charged an activation fee?

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Old 06-30-2007, 01:38 PM
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On Jun 29, 8:28 pm, Kuriashkin Victor <vk4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://iphone-msn.comservice.
>
> User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari


We just have to enter our userids and passwords over a clear text
link?
Who are you people?


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Old 06-30-2007, 04:17 PM
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In article <620a8392vep88e74cavj2pi0t6hrvu1sme@4ax.com>,
<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> In a vain attempt to stop the churn of 1 million users to the iPhone
> before years end, Verizon is waiving activation fees
> untill July 9 at Circuit City locations.


Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?

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Old 06-30-2007, 04:19 PM
Randall Ainsworth
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In article <6n7hi.16221$Fo1.3467@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Dr zara
<jackcal@aol.com> wrote:

> I have used ATT and Verizon for at least twenty years, concurrently. Let me
> assure you that ATT third rate. Verizon blows it away on a daily basis.
> FYI: The "new" ATT is not anything like the "old" ATT.


More accurately phrased: Verizon blows.
But, if you like crippled hardware so they can do open wallet surgery
at every turn...then go for it.

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Old 06-30-2007, 05:09 PM
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Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <620a8392vep88e74cavj2pi0t6hrvu1sme@4ax.com>,
> <karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> In a vain attempt to stop the churn of 1 million users to the iPhone
>> before years end, Verizon is waiving activation fees
>> untill July 9 at Circuit City locations.

>
> Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?


Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
lot more places than at&t.

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Old 06-30-2007, 05:50 PM
Randall Ainsworth
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In article <y96dnda0tMN5EBvbnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, George
<george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?

>
> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
> lot more places than at&t.


Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
in.

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Old 06-30-2007, 06:30 PM
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At 30 Jun 2007 10:50:44 -0700 Randall Ainsworth wrote:

> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
> or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
> because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
> in.


True. However, you'll have a hard time might hearing that bluetooth-
transfered ringtone in a "no-service" area...



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Old 06-30-2007, 07:11 PM
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Nope... sorry.

I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.

OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.

Next?

"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message news:300620071050442847%rag@nospam.techline.com...
> In article <y96dnda0tMN5EBvbnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, George
> <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?

>>
>> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
>> lot more places than at&t.

>
> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
> or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
> because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
> in.




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Old 06-30-2007, 07:37 PM
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On Jun 29, 8:20 pm, Larry <n...@home.com> wrote:
> Kuriashkin Victor <vk4...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1183123526.491549.90390
> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > 2) it is impossible to j$rk in metro :-) so, not wasp will not use it
> > at all

>
> You sure about that??...(c;
>


I do not want to check it out :-)


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Old 06-30-2007, 07:40 PM
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On Jun 30, 5:38 pm, zit <ttrtil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 8:28 pm, Kuriashkin Victor <vk4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://iphone-msn.comservice.

>
> > User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari

>
> We just have to enter our userids and passwords over a clear text
> link?
> Who are you people?


Actually it seems that I need to include https on it. Right now we
have not it, and it seems that, at least, for a while, we have not any
problem.
But - yes, U R right, https is must be.


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Old 06-30-2007, 08:41 PM
Randall Ainsworth
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In article <xNOdnXapb9XsNhvbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@giganews.com>, Ness_net
<richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Nope... sorry.
>
> I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
> I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.
>
> OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.
>
> Next?


You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
wallpaper, etc.

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Old 06-30-2007, 08:53 PM
ed
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On Jun 30, 1:41 pm, Randall Ainsworth <r...@nospam.techline.com>
wrote:
> In article <xNOdnXapb9XsNhvbnZ2dnUVZ_jidn...@giganews.com>, Ness_net
> <rich...@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
> > Nope... sorry.

>
> > I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
> > I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.

>
> > OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.

>
> > Next?

>
> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> wallpaper, etc.


verizon does cripple the bluetooth on their phones, but you can
transfer wallpaper and ringtones w/out hacking the phone- you just use
a serial cable profile. there's no problem transferring via a cable
to begin with- they just don't provide you the software to do it.
bitpim is the most popular choice for transferring files.

and since this conversation is in the context of the iphone, it should
be pointed out that the iphone has the same limitations on using user
ringtones, and the first reports are that the iphone's bluetooth is
also crippled... and more so than most verizon phones- for example,
verizon bluetooth phones have been coming w/ their dial up networking
profiles enabled, which is not true w/ iphone...



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Old 06-30-2007, 09:57 PM
Kevin Weaver
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Some Razr phones made it out of Verizon with everything working. I had one.
Once Verizon found out they called me to bring it in for a firmware update.
I said yeah right. Why so you can take away the Bluetooth function ?

When I sold it on eBay the bids got up high fast.

"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
news:300620071341263372%rag@nospam.techline.com...
> In article <xNOdnXapb9XsNhvbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@giganews.com>, Ness_net
> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Nope... sorry.
>>
>> I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
>> I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.
>>
>> OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.
>>
>> Next?

>
> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> wallpaper, etc.



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Old 06-30-2007, 10:30 PM
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In article <1183236838.223173.162360@d30g2000prg.googlegroups .com>,
ed <news@atwistedweb.com> wrote:

> On Jun 30, 1:41 pm, Randall Ainsworth <r...@nospam.techline.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <xNOdnXapb9XsNhvbnZ2dnUVZ_jidn...@giganews.com>, Ness_net
> > <rich...@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
> > > Nope... sorry.

> >
> > > I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
> > > I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.

> >
> > > OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.

> >
> > > Next?

> >
> > You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> > their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> > wallpaper, etc.

>
> verizon does cripple the bluetooth on their phones, but you can
> transfer wallpaper and ringtones w/out hacking the phone- you just use
> a serial cable profile. there's no problem transferring via a cable
> to begin with- they just don't provide you the software to do it.
> bitpim is the most popular choice for transferring files.
>
> and since this conversation is in the context of the iphone, it should
> be pointed out that the iphone has the same limitations on using user
> ringtones, and the first reports are that the iphone's bluetooth is
> also crippled... and more so than most verizon phones- for example,
> verizon bluetooth phones have been coming w/ their dial up networking
> profiles enabled, which is not true w/ iphone...


While i expected the feature set to be somewhat limited at first
introduction, i must say i'm somewhat shocked to learn that apple has
not yet enabled and/or has intentionally crippled bluetooth features
but then again... apple wants to tie everything iphone related to the
itunes music store, hence you have to open an itunes account to even
activate the phone. Look for them to offer ringtones via itunes soon
though it may be possible to assign itunes purchased music as a ringtone?

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Old 07-01-2007, 01:53 AM
Shawn Hirn
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In article <xNOdnXapb9XsNhvbnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> Nope... sorry.
>
> I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.


Same here with my Verizon Treo 700p. It works fine with all three of my
Macs via Bluetooth.

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Old 07-01-2007, 05:09 AM
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At 30 Jun 2007 13:41:26 -0700 Randall Ainsworth wrote:

> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> wallpaper, etc.



Apparently it's also no secret that the iPhone is almost equally
crippled. According to engadget.com, who's playing with 12 of them, you
can't tether a computer to an iPhone via bluetooth or cable, can't
transfer files via bluetooth, and can't even use it as an iPod until it's
activated with AT&T (so much for unlocking it! It only allows emergency
phones calls and no other functions if a non-iTunes activated SIM is
inserted.)

I'm surprised Verizon passed on the iPhone- it's crippled almost to
Verizon spec and beyond!



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Old 07-01-2007, 05:40 AM
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:46872be4$0$16365$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> At 30 Jun 2007 13:41:26 -0700 Randall Ainsworth wrote:
>
>> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
>> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
>> wallpaper, etc.

>
>
> Apparently it's also no secret that the iPhone is almost equally
> crippled. According to engadget.com, who's playing with 12 of them, you
> can't tether a computer to an iPhone via bluetooth or cable, can't
> transfer files via bluetooth, and can't even use it as an iPod until it's
> activated with AT&T (so much for unlocking it! It only allows emergency
> phones calls and no other functions if a non-iTunes activated SIM is
> inserted.)
>
> I'm surprised Verizon passed on the iPhone- it's crippled almost to
> Verizon spec and beyond!


the bluetooth is actually crippled beyond verizon spec. :P


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