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Old 01-01-2010, 01:14 PM
Katmandu
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Default Very Delayed Voicemail

Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
2-3 weeks old.

Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!

Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.

Anyone here experienced this problem?

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Old 01-01-2010, 02:03 PM
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Katmandu <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote in
news:if0sj5tn312gadmgds5t5gj7j65kokku17@4ax.com:

> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?
>


Many times both as a Verizon customer then, now, as a Page Plus customer
using the same Verizon system.

It no longer ruins my business and makes my customers mad as hell that I
didn't return their phone calls....since I retired....(c;]

My advise is to do what I did when business suffered, turn off voicemail
entirely until you can find something better. That way the callers will
keep trying, like an old telephone on a wire, until you answer it......


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Old 01-01-2010, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Very Delayed Voicemail

On 1/1/2010 09:14, Katmandu wrote:
> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?


I have never experienced that. If several people told you that it might
be some unique condition with your particular phone or location
considering the 50+ million who aren't complaining.

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Old 01-01-2010, 03:50 PM
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"Katmandu" <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?


Which model phone and how long have you had it?

Have you made any modifications to your account(s) lately? VZ has been
known to violate the "it ain't broke so don't fix it" rule when making
account changes.

If it's a new phone, it or some VZ config settings on your account may be
the problem. Take it to a VZ store and hope they make it better and not
worse.

If it's been a reliable unit for a longer period of time, there are a lot of
possibilities:

In the phone itself, a config setting gone bad or not kept current - not
likely but not impossible.

At VZ, a config setting gone bad, erroneously changed, or not kept current.
Again, not likely but possible.

Something about the senders. Do you see any pattern in the delayed e-mails
(the senders, their service providers, etc.)?

I only use my VZ phone to talk, so I'm not familiar with the network
mechanisms for sending and receiving text and e-mail on a phone. However, I
have VZ DSL. From time to time there are stretches when e-mail and
newsgroup postings get delayed.

Sometimes I can force Windows Mail to download recent newsgroup postings
that didn't immediately show, but sometimes stuff from weeks or months ago
suddenly gets downloaded to my reader for no apparent reason. (Probably a
server somewhere was reset.) The problem comes and goes for no apparent
reason. Some of it obviously is related to the up-line mail and newsgroup
servers (e.g., eternal-september.org). However, there's no way to tell if
they were VZ server problems, or issues with the originating and
intermediate servers.

I would think that at least some of my DSL problems have their parallels
when it comes to cell phone e-mail.


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Old 01-01-2010, 04:07 PM
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Katmandu wrote:
> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?


I haven't.

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Old 01-01-2010, 04:19 PM
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Katmandu wrote:
> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?


Yup .. delayed up to several days. Powering the phone down and
back up seemed to cause it to get the voice mail notification but it
might also have been coincidence. Whatever it is annoying!!!!

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Old 01-01-2010, 06:09 PM
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Katmandu <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:

> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?


No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.



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Old 01-01-2010, 06:15 PM
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We have that problem every once in awhile. Just last night my wife looked
at her phone and there was a voice mail notification on it which she hadn't
noticed before. Turns out that the voice mail was from Christmas day. She
uses her phone almost every day and I'm sure that she would have noticed if
that notification had been there before yesterday.

Also, I received a voice mail over this past weekend and when I went to
check it I found that there was a second message on it that I know I hadn't
heard before. Turns out it was from almost a month ago. I'm sure that I
hadn't seen the notification earlier.

FWIW, I had the same experience with other phones on Verizon and also back
when we were on Cingular with different phones. I just chalk it up and
figure it's just part of the "cell phones are not quite ready for prime
time" experience! Maybe it's just the fact that we live in the boonies.



"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 1/1/2010 09:14, Katmandu wrote:
>> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
>> 2-3 weeks old.
>>
>> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>>
>> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> I have never experienced that. If several people told you that it might be
> some unique condition with your particular phone or location considering
> the 50+ million who aren't complaining.



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Old 01-01-2010, 06:16 PM
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XS11E wrote:

> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.


Huh? You can receive vm when your phone is on. You missed
the point of the original posters question.

Pegleg

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Old 01-01-2010, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Very Delayed Voicemail

Our phone are always on, too. But that doesn't mean that we don't get voice
mails. Even though the phones are always on there are times when we can't
answer so they go to voice mail!

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Katmandu <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
>> 2-3 weeks old.
>>
>> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>>
>> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.
>
>
>
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> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/



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Old 01-01-2010, 07:22 PM
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GV wrote:
> Maybe it's just the fact that we live in the
> boonies.



That may be the most significant clue! We also live in the
boonies and many times voicemails don't reach our phones
until we leave the immediate area and get closer to
"civilization"! Then several will come beaming in all at the
same time.

Pegleg

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Old 01-01-2010, 08:13 PM
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-C91CAC.10312101012010@nothing.attdns.com:

> In article <Xns9CF366423FB7Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> My advise is to do what I did when business suffered, turn off
>> voicemail entirely until you can find something better. That way the
>> callers will keep trying, like an old telephone on a wire, until you
>> answer it......

>
> Actually, no, they won't.
>
> The better solution in this case is to turn off voicemail and program
> your phone to foward to Google Voice on busy/no answer.
>


Or, if you are LUCKY ENOUGH to be INVITED to Google Voice, send all the
phone calls to GV in the first place.

Can just anyone join GV now? Since when?


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Old 01-01-2010, 08:40 PM
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Pegleg <brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>
>> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.

>
> Huh? You can receive vm when your phone is on.


Why would anyone send one?

The only voice mails I've ever received are calls when I did turn my
phone off or didn't answer, since I leave it on now and no longer have
the ability to limit calls to people in my contacts only*, there are no
more VMs.



*A major failing of BB IMHO although I understand it can be done with a
separate app....

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Old 01-01-2010, 09:52 PM
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On 1/1/2010 14:09, XS11E wrote:
> Katmandu<darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
>> 2-3 weeks old.
>>
>> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>>
>> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.
>
>
>

So you have never been on a call and you didn't answer another call, had
lunch and ignored the phone or slept?

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Old 01-01-2010, 09:56 PM
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On 1/1/2010 14:59, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9CF37BBF22CFCxs11eyahoocom@127.0.0.1>,
> XS11E<xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
>>> 2-3 weeks old.
>>>
>>> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>>>
>>> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>>>
>>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>>
>> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.

>
> ummmm.....one doesn't follow the other...
>
> My phone is always on, too--and I get voicemails.
>
> Sometimes it's in-network voicemails that someone sends me directly from
> his account. Many times I simply choose not to answer the phone.
>
> I *have* seen infrequent instances of someone calling me, my choosing
> not to answer the phone, then a resulting voicemail popping up a week or
> two later.


Never had that happen. I think it is rude to switch to another caller
unless it is really really important so I typically never answer another
call while in a call. Typically the voice mail alert comes right after
the person leaves their message.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:43 PM
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XS11E wrote:
> Katmandu <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
>> 2-3 weeks old.
>>
>> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>>
>> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> No, sorry. My phone is always on so I never get voicemail.
>
>
>

Mine is always on, too, but I don't always hear it, like the other day
in the bowling alley. I don't wear it on my pants like many of you
fellows do. It's in my purse. Also, I've found that there are times when
I'm not on the phone, it's right near me and the call goes to voice
mail. I think that happens when the towers are running at capacity.

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Old 01-01-2010, 11:06 PM
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George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> So you have never been on a call and you didn't answer another
> call, had lunch and ignored the phone or slept?


No.

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Old 01-01-2010, 11:07 PM
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Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mine is always on, too, but I don't always hear it


I've had phones I couldn't hear ring but my current phone fixes that.



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Old 01-02-2010, 01:29 AM
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:27 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
>news:elmop-C91CAC.10312101012010@nothing.attdns.com:
>
>> In article <Xns9CF366423FB7Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
>> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My advise is to do what I did when business suffered, turn off
>>> voicemail entirely until you can find something better. That way the
>>> callers will keep trying, like an old telephone on a wire, until you
>>> answer it......

>>
>> Actually, no, they won't.
>>
>> The better solution in this case is to turn off voicemail and program
>> your phone to foward to Google Voice on busy/no answer.
>>

>
>Or, if you are LUCKY ENOUGH to be INVITED to Google Voice, send all the
>phone calls to GV in the first place.
>
>Can just anyone join GV now? Since when?


It's still not fully open, but anyone can request an invitation (go to
voice.google.com, then click "Request an invite"; mine took less than
2 weeks. No luck required.

Current members do get 3 invites that they can send, so if you find a
friend with it already your wait could be less...

Josh

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Old 01-02-2010, 06:38 AM
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-C91CAC.10312101012010@nothing.attdns.com...
> In article <Xns9CF366423FB7Fnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> My advise is to do what I did when business suffered, turn off voicemail
>> entirely until you can find something better. That way the callers will
>> keep trying, like an old telephone on a wire, until you answer it......

>
> Actually, no, they won't.
>
> The better solution in this case is to turn off voicemail and program
> your phone to foward to Google Voice on busy/no answer.



or if you aren't worried about keeing/porting the number over, consider
something like a magicjack, under $20 a year, free VM and sent to your email
as an attachment, and a phone to make free calls anywhere in the us wherever
theres a puter with windows, a usb port, and internet (use it when i travel,
works on my laptops usb and with wifi.... other voip services work too, i
just happen to use a magickjack and finally cut first the landline and now
the cell off http://www.magickjack.com/ also use maxemail
http://www.maxemail.com/ same idea for incoming calls, lets you have local
numbers for people to call locally, have both VM and fax, and send incoming
as attachments to my email).. either can be activated within a few hours,
and both offer a free 30 day trial

as for the your original prob of delayed VM on the cell, yup, that happened
to me all to often, especially when i travelled to places like alaska and
hawaii




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Old 01-02-2010, 06:44 AM
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"Pegleg" <brian.pegleg.jones@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> GV wrote:
>> Maybe it's just the fact that we live in the boonies.

>
>
> That may be the most significant clue! We also live in the boonies and
> many times voicemails don't reach our phones until we leave the immediate
> area and get closer to "civilization"! Then several will come beaming in
> all at the same time.
>
> Pegleg




you do know it's been doing that for years.... many rural providers have an
extremely low priority for data/non voice free traffic, some even still
aren't tied into the verizon data network...


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Old 01-02-2010, 11:47 AM
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:14:17 -0500, Katmandu
<darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:

>Anyone here experienced this problem?


Yes, TXT's as well. Get used to it. This is an ongoing issue with
Verizon and has been for years.

A_C

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Old 01-02-2010, 12:03 PM
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On 1/1/2010 19:06, XS11E wrote:
> George<george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> So you have never been on a call and you didn't answer another
>> call, had lunch and ignored the phone or slept?

>
> No.
>


You don't sleep?

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Old 01-02-2010, 12:07 PM
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On 1/2/2010 07:47, Agent_C wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:14:17 -0500, Katmandu
> <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> Yes, TXT's as well. Get used to it. This is an ongoing issue with
> Verizon and has been for years.
>
> A_C


How is it an "issue"? An "issue" is something that is persistent and
wide spread. I have never experienced it nor have I heard about it
except for the few people who posted here who described they were in the
boonies or Alaska.

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Old 01-02-2010, 02:18 PM
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:07:31 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>On 1/2/2010 07:47, Agent_C wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:14:17 -0500, Katmandu
>> <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>>
>> Yes, TXT's as well. Get used to it. This is an ongoing issue with
>> Verizon and has been for years.
>>
>> A_C

>
>How is it an "issue"? An "issue" is something that is persistent and
>wide spread. I have never experienced it nor have I heard about it
>except for the few people who posted here who described they were in the
>boonies or Alaska.



I see that google voice still requires interaction with your VZW
phone. I don't know what advantage I could reap using something that
apparently still relies on the reliability of VZW to receive
notifications of voicemail, etc.

I did just recently upgrade my phone from an LG chocolate to an Env
touch. I really wanted a Blackberry, but I can't fiscally justify
$100 a month just for that.

I did have the same problem with the Chocolate for over two years, so
I can't really blame it on the upgrade to the Env touch.

I am hard of hearing and frequently work in noisy environments where I
cannot hear the phone ring despite having created custom LOUD
ringtones for my phone. That's one reason the late voicemails are so
aggravating.

The late voicemail that prompted me to inquire was one I received just
a couple of days ago to remind me of my Dr. appointment on Dec. 4th!

I doubt my location could be considered 'the boonies'. My county has
a population of close to 600,000 in 1800 sq mi, and I live and work in
the largest population area.


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Old 01-02-2010, 03:01 PM
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Yes, I and several friends have had this problem on occasion.

I have no idea why it happens, but I have occasionally noticed that even
though I got no VM notification, if I call VM, the mailbox is holding a new
message....so once in awhile I'll call VM to check the mailbox myself. I
have found a couple of "stray" messages there over the years.

What I am suggesting, if no permanent solution is found, is that you do the
same. Make it a habit to dial *86 from time to time, especially if you might
be expecting an important VM. Obviously, if you dial from another VZW phone,
this won't cost anybody anything.

I know this doesn't solve the problem, but....just a thought.

By the way, IIRC, this happened more frequently when I was traveling outside
my local SID. Maybe the various different regional systems that make up the
VZW network still aren't perfectly synchronized. In any case, when I travel,
I do make it a point to do a *86 every couple of days.

HTH,
Dean

"Katmandu" <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Several times this year I have received voicemail messages that are
> 2-3 weeks old.
>
> Fortunately none of them were emergencies . . . yet!
>
> Several people have told me of similar experiences with VZW.
>
> Anyone here experienced this problem?




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Old 01-02-2010, 03:17 PM
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Sorry, George! When I said boonies I meant a rural area in central Illinois
USA. Approximately 6.4 miles from a Verizon tower over almost flat terrain.
It's boonies compared to downtown Chicago but nothing compared to the middle
of the Mojave or Alaskan wilderness!

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 1/2/2010 07:47, Agent_C wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:14:17 -0500, Katmandu
>> <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>>
>> Yes, TXT's as well. Get used to it. This is an ongoing issue with
>> Verizon and has been for years.
>>
>> A_C

>
> How is it an "issue"? An "issue" is something that is persistent and wide
> spread. I have never experienced it nor have I heard about it except for
> the few people who posted here who described they were in the boonies or
> Alaska.



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Old 01-02-2010, 05:18 PM
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Agent_C wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:14:17 -0500, Katmandu
> <darnold.puddytat@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyone here experienced this problem?

>
> Yes, TXT's as well. Get used to it. This is an ongoing issue with
> Verizon and has been for years.
>
> A_C


Not true with text messages where I live. We have marginal
reception outside the house in general and since we have a
metal roof incoming calls will ring but the call is unusable
unless we go outside. However, text message are received
without a problem even in the house. Voice mails are a
total crap shoot in the house or outside the house. Some
make it, most don't.

Pegleg

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Old 01-02-2010, 05:23 PM
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George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> On 1/1/2010 19:06, XS11E wrote:
>> George<george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> So you have never been on a call and you didn't answer another
>>> call, had lunch and ignored the phone or slept?

>>
>> No.

>
> You don't sleep?


Of course I do. If the phone rings, I wake up and answer it, that
happens less than once a year.


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GV wrote:
> Sorry, George! When I said boonies I meant a rural area in central
> Illinois USA. Approximately 6.4 miles from a Verizon tower over almost
> flat terrain. It's boonies compared to downtown Chicago but nothing
> compared to the middle of the Mojave or Alaskan wilderness!


We are in the far north west corner of Washington State,
about 10 miles from the border. Here Verizon towers are ten
miles apart and we are just about in between two towers and
our service sucks. You can drive the interstate (I-5) and
watch your signal strength go from one bar to four bars up
and down as you go from tower to tower.

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