wanted: phone with great reception/voice quality

My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.

Can someone recommend a phone that has:

- great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)

- bluetooth

In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.

Thanks!

JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>
> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>
> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>
> - bluetooth
>
> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>
> Thanks!
>

Is it possible that the battery is dying of old age? A new battery is
probably a hell of a lot cheaper than a new phone. You won't have to
sign a new contract. . . .

Now if the phone is unsatisfactory for some other reason, go ahead and
get a new one.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:59:44 -0800 (PST), JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:

> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>
> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>
> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>
> - bluetooth
>
> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>
> Thanks!

Unfortunately it's hard to find a good phone today without the camera, etc.

Why not pick up an e815 off eBay? It was one of the best reception phones
VZW offered.

JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> charge."

Try touching the connector pins to your tongue before connecting it. Not a
big wet lick, just a touch for moisture.

--
B. Hussein Obama won't wear an American flag on his lapel, or put his hand over
his heart during the national anthem, but prominently displayed in his Houston
campaign office is a Cuban flag with a picture of Che Guevara superimposed on
it.

On Feb 12, 11:21 am, CellGuy <cell...@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:59:44 -0800 (PST), JoelAtExc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> > charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>
> > Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>
> > - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>
> > - bluetooth
>
> > In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Unfortunately it's hard to find a good phone today without the camera, etc.
>
> Why not pick up an e815 off eBay? It was one of the best reception phones
> VZW offered.

It's okay if it has a camera, etc., but that's not why I'm buying the
phone.

My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
(My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
It's the charging mechanism and connection.)

So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
the e815 in voice/reception quality?

<JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c17684bf-8ce2-4441-93fd-bbd47ed80cc6@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 12, 11:21 am, CellGuy <cell...@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:59:44 -0800 (PST), JoelAtExc...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>> > charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>>
>> > Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>>
>> > - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>>
>> > - bluetooth
>>
>> > In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>>
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> Unfortunately it's hard to find a good phone today without the camera,
>> etc.
>>
>> Why not pick up an e815 off eBay? It was one of the best reception
>> phones
>> VZW offered.
>
> It's okay if it has a camera, etc., but that's not why I'm buying the
> phone.
>
> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)
>
> So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
> the e815 in voice/reception quality?

Had to dumb my trusty E815 for the very same reason (others have commented
they did also), so I went for the new Razr2 V9m. Same good reception and
call quality even on speaker phone. A little expensive, but worth checking
out. A little on the large size (but the external and internal screens are
equally large), it's very slim and has brick-solid construction.

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
>> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>>
>> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>>
>> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>>
>> - bluetooth
>>
>> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> Is it possible that the battery is dying of old age? A new battery is
> probably a hell of a lot cheaper than a new phone. You won't have to
> sign a new contract. . . .
>
> Now if the phone is unsatisfactory for some other reason, go ahead and
> get a new one.
>

The OP might be having the same problem I had with my Moto. The innards
that connect to the charger break. I couldn't charge mine with either
the car or the AC charger last summer. I learned later that it's a
problem that Motorola phones seem to have quite often.




--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

clifto wrote:
> JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
>> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>> charge."
>
> Try touching the connector pins to your tongue before connecting it. Not a
> big wet lick, just a touch for moisture.
>

I tried that with mine. Worked for a little while, but then it didn't.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>
> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>
> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>
> - bluetooth
>
> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>
> Thanks!
>

I replaced my Motorola with an LG VX8300 last summer. This phone has
great reception. I live in a concrete house and it works fine even away
from the windows. It has a stubby antenna. It also does tricks and takes
pictures but I haven't figured that part out yet. I use it to make phone
calls and get phone calls and

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

<JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5c423d9e-5dd8-4b86-a3ed-3fcd2e1b150b@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>
> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>
> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>
> - bluetooth
>
> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>
> Thanks!
>

I'm looking for this too. I have some PN-300s, with great audio and a pull
up antenna for great reception, but it lacks bluetooth.

JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)

I have the same connector on my V710. Touch the contacts with your tongue
before plugging the plug into the phone. It works.

--
B. Hussein Obama won't wear an American flag on his lapel, or put his hand over
his heart during the national anthem, but prominently displayed in his Houston
campaign office is a Cuban flag with a picture of Che Guevara superimposed on
it.

"stevev" <stevev@addlebrain.com> wrote in
news:8Jlsj.474$fX7.154@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Had to dumb my trusty E815 for the very same reason (others have
> commented they did also), so I went for the new Razr2 V9m. Same good
> reception and call quality even on speaker phone. A little expensive,
> but worth checking out. A little on the large size (but the external
> and internal screens are equally large), it's very slim and has
> brick-solid construction.
>
>

I moved from the E815 with the defective data software that wouldn't stay
connected to the Z6m, instead of the Z9, because I figured, rightly, that
ONE screen would take less power than TWO. It's small and light and has
lots of toys (MP3 player works great and its LOUD, which is unusual)(2
megapixel camera even takes good pictures to the 2GB micro SD card (max
2G) As a phone, it's first class. The speakerphone will make them scowl
at you several tables away at full volume.

My only complaint is the SLIPPERY shiny metal case. I wish it were made of
that same tacky rubber they make pens out of so it doesn't slip from your
hand like a bar of soap in a hot shower.... It slides open very nicely
because there's a bar under the display to push against. The slide is
STEEL and very nicely made.

The Alltel version only loses one function key to their stupid SELLtop
addon gadget you can't remove. Verizon calls it the Z6tv and replaces the
main menu that lets you do all kinds of things with stupid Vcast so they
can SELL you more. The center button is SUPPOSED to take you to the main
menu. It does on Alltel for all the toys and setups.

Sure wish I could delete SELLtop....damn them.

Ya, I'm puzzled how Moto could make such a good phone with such a rotten
charging port. I was lucky with mine, it never broke, but it was always
"touchy"---often had to unplug and plug back in.

To the OP:

Anecdotally, the answer is probably no. Some pretty trusted names on this
board have indicated that none of the new phones have quite as "hot" a
reception profile as the 815. That phone appears to have been the paradigm
of reception, although it did suffer from a number of other issues, mostly
software related.

That said, as I indicated in another post, many many people I know
transitioned to the Razr v3m and had no trouble at all. It would only
concern me if I had serious reception issues in my area, for instance, if
you currently have to get up and go to another room at home to make a call.
In that case I'd be researching other providers as well.

Dean

"Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:47b1ed5f$0$25451$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>>> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>>>
>>> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>>>
>>> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>>>
>>> - bluetooth
>>>
>>> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Is it possible that the battery is dying of old age? A new battery is
>> probably a hell of a lot cheaper than a new phone. You won't have to
>> sign a new contract. . . .
>>
>> Now if the phone is unsatisfactory for some other reason, go ahead and
>> get a new one.
>>
>
> The OP might be having the same problem I had with my Moto. The innards
> that connect to the charger break. I couldn't charge mine with either the
> car or the AC charger last summer. I learned later that it's a problem
> that Motorola phones seem to have quite often.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
> Good Friends. Good Life

Dean wrote:
> Ya, I'm puzzled how Moto could make such a good phone with such a rotten
> charging port. I was lucky with mine, it never broke, but it was always
> "touchy"---often had to unplug and plug back in.

There have been posts on how to open those phones with the crappy
charging port and do the repair. I've done it on several Motorola
phones. The connections from the connector to the PCB break.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:38:44 -0800, stevev wrote:

> Had to dumb my trusty E815 for the very same reason (others have commented
> they did also), so I went for the new Razr2 V9m. Same good reception and
> call quality even on speaker phone. A little expensive, but worth checking
> out. A little on the large size (but the external and internal screens are
> equally large), it's very slim and has brick-solid construction.

I went the same way. Love the V9M!

Dean was thinking very hard :
> Ya, I'm puzzled how Moto could make such a good phone with such a rotten
> charging port. I was lucky with mine, it never broke, but it was always
> "touchy"---often had to unplug and plug back in.
>
> To the OP:
>
> Anecdotally, the answer is probably no. Some pretty trusted names on this
> board have indicated that none of the new phones have quite as "hot" a
> reception profile as the 815. That phone appears to have been the paradigm
> of reception, although it did suffer from a number of other issues, mostly
> software related.
>
> That said, as I indicated in another post, many many people I know
> transitioned to the Razr v3m and had no trouble at all. It would only
> concern me if I had serious reception issues in my area, for instance, if
> you currently have to get up and go to another room at home to make a call.
> In that case I'd be researching other providers as well.
>
> Dean
>
> "Janet Wilder" <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:47b1ed5f$0$25451$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>> JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>>>> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>>>>
>>>> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>>>>
>>>> - bluetooth
>>>>
>>>> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible that the battery is dying of old age? A new battery is
>>> probably a hell of a lot cheaper than a new phone. You won't have to
>>> sign a new contract. . . .
>>>
>>> Now if the phone is unsatisfactory for some other reason, go ahead and
>>> get a new one.
>>>
>>
>> The OP might be having the same problem I had with my Moto. The innards
>> that connect to the charger break. I couldn't charge mine with either the
>> car or the AC charger last summer. I learned later that it's a problem
>> that Motorola phones seem to have quite often.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Janet Wilder
>> Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
>> Good Friends. Good Life

I went from the 815 to the V9M. I was skeptical at first that any phone
without an external antenna would perform as well as my 815 but in my
opinion my V9M's reception is as good as if not better than my 815

JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com brought next idea :
> On Feb 12, 11:21 am, CellGuy <cell...@seemessagebody.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:59:44 -0800 (PST), JoelAtExc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
>>> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
>>> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
>>> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
>>> - bluetooth
>>
>>> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> Unfortunately it's hard to find a good phone today without the camera, etc.
>>
>> Why not pick up an e815 off eBay? It was one of the best reception phones
>> VZW offered.
>
> It's okay if it has a camera, etc., but that's not why I'm buying the
> phone.
>
> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)
>
> So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
> the e815 in voice/reception quality?

My V9M does just that. My only complaint is the battery charge does not
last as long but I'm getting used to it.

SMS wrote:
> Dean wrote:
>> Ya, I'm puzzled how Moto could make such a good phone with such a
>> rotten charging port. I was lucky with mine, it never broke, but it
>> was always "touchy"---often had to unplug and plug back in.
>
> There have been posts on how to open those phones with the crappy
> charging port and do the repair. I've done it on several Motorola
> phones. The connections from the connector to the PCB break.

When I took my Moto with that problem to the shop the tech said it
couldn't even be welded to repair it. It was too broken.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:49:52 GMT, TeddeLI wrote:

>> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
>> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
>> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)
>>
>> So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
>> the e815 in voice/reception quality?
>
> My V9M does just that. My only complaint is the battery charge does not
> last as long but I'm getting used to it.

I boiught the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I can
get up to two days without a charge.

Traveling Man wrote on 2/14/2008 :
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:49:52 GMT, TeddeLI wrote:
>
>>> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
>>> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
>>> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)
>>>
>>> So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
>>> the e815 in voice/reception quality?
>>
>> My V9M does just that. My only complaint is the battery charge does not
>> last as long but I'm getting used to it.
>
> I boiught the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I can
> get up to two days without a charge.

Great minds think alike. I bought one as well and agree that it lasts
longer between charges

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:15:03 GMT, TeddeLI <Spam@nospam.neat> wrote:

>> I boiught the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I can
>> get up to two days without a charge.
>
>Great minds think alike. I bought one as well and agree that it lasts
>longer between charges

It takes a great mind to figure out that the high-capacity battery will last
longer than the standard battery?

Hot damn! Move over, boys! I got me a great mind too, since I bought my
high-capacity batteries along with my V9s!

-- Larry (flattered to be in such exalted company. Anyone have the email address
for MENSA?)

pltrgyst expressed precisely :
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:15:03 GMT, TeddeLI <Spam@nospam.neat> wrote:
>
>>> I boiught the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I
>>> can get up to two days without a charge.
>>
>> Great minds think alike. I bought one as well and agree that it lasts
>> longer between charges
>
> It takes a great mind to figure out that the high-capacity battery will last
> longer than the standard battery?
>
> Hot damn! Move over, boys! I got me a great mind too, since I bought my
> high-capacity batteries along with my V9s!
>
> -- Larry (flattered to be in such exalted company. Anyone have the email
> address for MENSA?)

Sorry to hear you don't have as great a mind as others. It's just that
two individuals unknown to each other have had similar experiences.
That is the general idea of the saying.

> -- Larry (flattered to be in such exalted company. Anyone have the email address
> for MENSA?)

Any genius knows it's nationaloffice <at> americanmensa.org :-)

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:02:47 -0600, Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com>
wrote:
: Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
: > JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com wrote:
: >> My current Motorola phone keeps displaying a message "unable to
: >> charge." So it's become unreliable. So I need a new phone.
: >>
: >> Can someone recommend a phone that has:
: >>
: >> - great reception and great voice quality (this is most important)
: >>
: >> - bluetooth
: >>
: >> In short, I want a phone, not a camera/PDA/MIDI-synthesizer/etc.
: >>
: >> Thanks!
: >>
: >
: > Is it possible that the battery is dying of old age? A new battery is
: > probably a hell of a lot cheaper than a new phone. You won't have to
: > sign a new contract. . . .
: >
: > Now if the phone is unsatisfactory for some other reason, go ahead and
: > get a new one.
: >
:
: The OP might be having the same problem I had with my Moto. The innards
: that connect to the charger break. I couldn't charge mine with either
: the car or the AC charger last summer. I learned later that it's a
: problem that Motorola phones seem to have quite often.

I once had a Motorola phone. (My least reliable mobile phone ever, but it was
dirt cheap.) IIRC, "Unable to charge" usually meant that the charger wasn't
making good contact with the phone. At the time, Motorola phones had a tiny,
crappy plug and socket that could work loose easily if the phone were jostled
at all while it was charging. Whether this was the same problem that Janet had
or a different one, I can't say.

Bob

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:19:09 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:49:52 GMT, TeddeLI wrote:
:
: >> My current phone is an e815. I'm looking for something like that.
: >> (My e815 doesn't charge reliably any more. it's not the battery.
: >> It's the charging mechanism and connection.)
: >>
: >> So my question is really: is there a phone that can match (or beat)
: >> the e815 in voice/reception quality?
: >
: > My V9M does just that. My only complaint is the battery charge does not
: > last as long but I'm getting used to it.
:
: I bought the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I can
: get up to two days without a charge.

"Up to two days" on the *extended* battery?? <chuckle!> I have the standard
(not extended) battery on my LG 8300, and it goes three or four days, no
problem.

Bob

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:14:34 -0500, Robert Coe wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:19:09 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
>:
>: I bought the extended battery for my V9M. Works much much better. I can
>: get up to two days without a charge.
>
> "Up to two days" on the *extended* battery?? <chuckle!> I have the standard
> (not extended) battery on my LG 8300, and it goes three or four days, no
> problem.
>
> Bob

The LG 8300 has a published talk time of 3.8 hours, the V9M of 3.7 hours
(standard battery). The battery life depends on how often you use the
phone.