Where can I buy a non-branded/unlocked CDMA, HTC Touch Pro in the US

Hi all,

I've been thinking about trying to purchase and unlocked, CDMA version
of the HTC Touch Pro and having Verizon activate it under my current
account. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to purchase on on
the internet?

Steve wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been thinking about trying to purchase and unlocked, CDMA version
> of the HTC Touch Pro and having Verizon activate it under my current
> account. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to purchase on on
> the internet?

http://www.amazon.com/

http://www.ebay.com/

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:22:49 -0500, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> Steve wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been thinking about trying to purchase and unlocked, CDMA version
>> of the HTC Touch Pro and having Verizon activate it under my current
>> account. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to purchase on on
>> the internet?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/
>
> http://www.ebay.com/

GSM? Won't work on Verizon.

Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
Sprint Logo on it.

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:44:33 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:22:49 -0500, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about trying to purchase and unlocked, CDMA version
>>> of the HTC Touch Pro and having Verizon activate it under my current
>>> account. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to purchase on on
>>> the internet?
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/
>
>GSM? Won't work on Verizon.

On 2008-11-04, Steve <SteveBakar@Adelphia.net> wrote:
> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
> Sprint Logo on it.

I think you'll have trouble then. CDMA phones aren't (yet) usually
sold unbranded the way GSM phones are since traditionally you have
been forced to buy CDMA phones from the carrier you wanted to use
the phone with. Verizon may (or may not) have changed its rules
about the latter but that hasn't yet changed how the phones are
marketed.

Dennis Ferguson

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:

> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
> Sprint Logo on it.

Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:37 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:
>
>> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
>> Sprint Logo on it.
>
>Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.

Yes they will. I already contacted them.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:54:52 -0500, Steve wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:37 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:
>>
>>> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
>>> Sprint Logo on it.
>>
>>Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.
>
> Yes they will. I already contacted them.

OK, must be under the new rules.

Traveling Man <none@none.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:c0d311orrtcj$.1w7jl9grvixov.dlg@40tude.net:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:54:52 -0500, Steve wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:37 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
>>>> Sprint Logo on it.
>>>
>>>Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.
>>
>> Yes they will. I already contacted them.
>
> OK, must be under the new rules.
>

They may activate it, but don't expect anything close to full
functionality.

> They may activate it, but don't expect anything close to full
> functionality.

Given the verizon cripples the phones, or adds their own ******
alternatives, how is this a bad thing?

"Traveling Man" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:c0d311orrtcj$.1w7jl9grvixov.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:54:52 -0500, Steve wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:37 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
>>>> Sprint Logo on it.
>>>
>>>Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.
>>
>> Yes they will. I already contacted them.
>
> OK, must be under the new rules.

"New rules"...?

The have ALWAYS activated other phones.
(The difficulty was getting the SUB lock from Sprint)

From what I have seen of people activating Verizon phones on other carriers,
they loose Get it Now, MMS, WAP, Mobile TV, and in some cases MP3 playback
capability.

"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:x7WdnTlwDIrabYXUnZ2dnUVZ_sPinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> They may activate it, but don't expect anything close to full
>> functionality.
>
> Given the verizon cripples the phones, or adds their own ******
> alternatives, how is this a bad thing?

At 12 Nov 2008 09:37:35 -0600 Jon wrote:
> From what I have seen of people activating Verizon phones on other
carriers,
> they loose Get it Now, MMS, WAP, Mobile TV, and in some cases MP3
playback
> capability.


How much a month does that save them? ;-)

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 12 Nov 2008 09:37:35 -0600 Jon wrote:
>> From what I have seen of people activating Verizon phones on other
> carriers,
>> they loose Get it Now, MMS, WAP, Mobile TV, and in some cases MP3
> playback
>> capability.
>
>
> How much a month does that save them? ;-)
>
>

If you don't need: Get it Now, MMS, WAP, Mobile TV, etc, do you care?
If that stuff cost only $1/month, I wouldn't pay for it. I expect it
actually costs a good deal more!

Some of us just need a phone.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:04:02 -0800, Ness-Net wrote:

> "Traveling Man" <none@none.com> wrote in message news:c0d311orrtcj$.1w7jl9grvixov.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:54:52 -0500, Steve wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:37 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:01:32 -0500, Steve wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sprint has a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Pro, but I don't want a
>>>>> Sprint Logo on it.
>>>>
>>>>Verizon won't activate phones from Sprint.
>>>
>>> Yes they will. I already contacted them.
>>
>> OK, must be under the new rules.
>
> "New rules"...?
>
> The have ALWAYS activated other phones.
> (The difficulty was getting the SUB lock from Sprint)

Not true. They will not activate e816s (same as the e815) from AmpMobile.

At 16 Nov 2008 01:30:15 +0000 Traveling Man wrote:


> > The have ALWAYS activated other phones.
> > (The difficulty was getting the SUB lock from Sprint)
>
> Not true. They will not activate e816s (same as the e815) from AmpMobile.


IIRC, the e816 suffered from a severe bug that tied up a carrier's data
channel constantly even if the phone wasn't actively transferring data.
AMP'd went out of business before they could correct it. AFAIK, no one
will activate one of those 816s! Verizon, although fairly liberal about
activating non-Verizon phones, does draw the line at devices that "harm"
the network...

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:30:15 GMT, Traveling Man <none@none.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:04:02 -0800, Ness-Net wrote:
>
>> The have ALWAYS activated other phones.
>
>Not true. They will not activate e816s (same as the e815) from AmpMobile.

Ummm, language check: "The[y] have ALWAYS activated other phones" does not mean
that they have always activated every type of phone presented to them.

-- Larry

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:08:19 -0700, Todd Allcock wrote:

> At 16 Nov 2008 01:30:15 +0000 Traveling Man wrote:
>
>
>>> The have ALWAYS activated other phones.
>>> (The difficulty was getting the SUB lock from Sprint)
>>
>> Not true. They will not activate e816s (same as the e815) from AmpMobile.
>
>
> IIRC, the e816 suffered from a severe bug that tied up a carrier's data
> channel constantly even if the phone wasn't actively transferring data.
> AMP'd went out of business before they could correct it. AFAIK, no one
> will activate one of those 816s! Verizon, although fairly liberal about
> activating non-Verizon phones, does draw the line at devices that "harm"
> the network...

Unfortunately VZW won't even activate an e816 after it's flashed with the
VZW e815 firmware, making it an e815. The ESN is blacklisted.

At 17 Nov 2008 21:59:49 +0000 Traveling Man wrote:

> > IIRC, the e816 suffered from a severe bug that tied up a carrier's data
> > channel constantly even if the phone wasn't actively transferring data.
> > AMP'd went out of business before they could correct it. AFAIK, no one
> > will activate one of those 816s! Verizon, although fairly liberal about
> > activating non-Verizon phones, does draw the line at devices that "harm"
> > the network...
>
> Unfortunately VZW won't even activate an e816 after it's flashed with the
> VZW e815 firmware, making it an e815. The ESN is blacklisted.

While that's unfortunate, it's not surprising that Verizon is unwilling to
assume the risk of taking the customer's word the phone has been "fixed"
or taking the time/effort to have a qualified employee verify that it has
been. Blacklisting, sadly, is cheaper, easier, and safer.