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Old 02-08-2008, 12:57 PM
robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
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Default Where's the moderator?

C'mon,
Where's our moderator?
Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
sex........
At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
What a waste of time reviewing this site....

Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
feed up and leaving (for now!)

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Old 02-08-2008, 01:48 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
> C'mon,
> Where's our moderator?
> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
> sex........
> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
> What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>
> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)


Moderator? What moderator? I've never seen anything to show or even
suggest that this group is moderated.

"MI5" seems to have disappeared from ALL the groups I read. Perhaps he
has been blacklisted by EVERY IP. We can always hope. . . .


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Old 02-08-2008, 01:58 PM
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On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:48:27 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:

>[...] Perhaps he has been blacklisted by EVERY IP.
>We can always hope. . . .


Or perhaps, he's in the custody of the British authorities.
We can always hope... ;-)

A_C

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Old 02-08-2008, 02:34 PM
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robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
> C'mon,
> Where's our moderator?
> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
> sex........
> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
> What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>
> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)
>

While I dislike the stupid abuse by some posters as much as you do, if you
want moderators you should join moderated groups. Usenet is not about
moderation.

I will agree with you, however, that, as in many things in our world, the
minority of assholes are ruining for everyone what was once a great thing.
They seem to be able to drag us all down to their lowest common denominator.

Here is a moderated Verizon group for you. Move over to their if that's what
you're seeking: http://www2.verizon.net/policies/newsgroup_posting.asp

There are also choices of moderated newsgroups for each phone type. I
belong, for example to both blackberry.com and crackberry.com. When I want
real information I go there. When I want to check out rumors and gossip, I
come here.




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Old 02-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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Agent_C wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:48:27 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>[...] Perhaps he has been blacklisted by EVERY IP.
>>We can always hope. . . .

>
>
> Or perhaps, he's in the custody of the British authorities.
> We can always hope... ;-)
>
> A_C


Or that he's getting the "help" he so obviously needs!


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Old 02-08-2008, 02:48 PM
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[posted and mailed]

robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:

> Where's our moderator?


Moderator? What moderator? Maybe you need to learn what a newsgoup is
and how to use one?

> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
> sex........
> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
> What a waste of time reviewing this site....


Nothing is banned, has been banned or will be banned unless you get a
newsreader and learn to use killfiles and scoring to ban posts
yourself.

> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)


Why tell Google? They have nothing to do with newsgroups other than
providing the horrible web interface you're using, and, of course, the
fact that most of the garbage you're complaining about originates from
Google, they encourage it!

I had to go look for your post because, of course, I killfile all posts
from Google groups. Follow the link in my signature to see why and
then go get a newsreader and learn to use it and how to use usenet.


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The Usenet Improvement Project:
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Old 02-08-2008, 02:50 PM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> "MI5" seems to have disappeared from ALL the groups I read. Perhaps he
> has been blacklisted by EVERY IP. We can always hope. . . .


Interesting reading on Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI-5_Persecution


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Old 02-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this.
>> I'm feed up and leaving (for now!)
>>

> While I dislike the stupid abuse by some posters as much as you
> do, if you want moderators you should join moderated groups.
> Usenet is not about moderation.


He's not on usenet, he's a google grouper.

The link in my sig will explain it if you don't know about Google
Groupers.

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Old 02-08-2008, 04:45 PM
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At 08 Feb 2008 08:52:12 -0700 XS11E wrote:

> He's not on usenet, he's a google grouper.
>
> The link in my sig will explain it if you don't know about Google
> Groupers.
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project:
> http://improve-usenet.org



But, (since we're discussing this in a cellular group,) ironically, Google
(or rather, any web interface) is about the only way to access Usenet from
most mobile phones, so it's reasonable that the cellular groups might have
a higher instance of "G-Groupers" than other groups, including those folks
who "Usenet" at home, and "G-Group" on the road.

I used to use Google Groups quite a bit from my Pocket PCs and/or
cellphones until I found a decent NNTP client for my PPCs and WinMo phones
that worked online. (Many older WinMo "Usenet" clients were simply
aggregators that downloaded all recent posts of selected groups to your PC,
then synced them to the mobile device to read on the go, similar to how
many used "mobile" e-mail in the years B.C.C.: Before Cellular
Connectivity.)

While Google is certainly the _conduit_ for much of the nonsense we see,
it's not the _source_- it's simply being abused like any ubiquitous, easy-
to-use tool. Just as "guns don't kill people... blah blah," Google
doesn't pollute Usenet with stupidity and spam- they just provide the tool.
At least Google has an "honesty" about it- explaining what Usenet is (to
anyone willing to drill through the links and read,) unlike those stupid
"web forums" (like cellbanter.com, for example) that mirror usenet to a web
interface pretending that all of Usenet is their "forum."

If we didn't have Google (or before that AOL) to kick around and blame for
Usenet's woes, we'd be blaming loose or anonymous servers for not filtering
spammers (a few more chapters of the "MI5 Persecution" saga, anyone?)

Spammers will take the path of least resistance, and if that wasn't Google,
it'd be someone else. Noobs and losers, well, there'll always be those as
long as some web interface exists, and that's ok. I cut my Usenet teeth on
AOL groups,and migrated to "real" Usenet NNTP after I figured out what was
going on. Noobs eventually grow up, and without them (and probably Google!)
Usenet would go the way of the dinosaur as all the curmugeons that know
the "secret NNTP handshake" to be admitted eventually die off.

Probably the only thing keeping Usenet alive commercially, since most ISPs
no longer provide NNTP servers, is it's new era of piracy-through-binary-
groups (right, Larry?), otherwise independent newsservers would have a
tough time finding customers!




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Old 02-08-2008, 04:48 PM
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At 08 Feb 2008 10:42:32 -0500 Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> > Or perhaps, he's in the custody of the British authorities. We can

always hope... ;-)
> >
> > A_C

>
> Or that he's getting the "help" he so obviously needs!
>


Hopefully the sort of "help" Le Chiffre dealt to James Bond with the
business end of a Carpet beater in "Casino Royale"... ;-)






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Old 02-08-2008, 06:18 PM
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I thought that John Navas is our moderator. Oooops! Maybe he only modeates
the Cingular and ATTWS Newsgoups! :-)

<robot10001-ann@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1f1a5eb-86c9-43ca-a101-578efec61b1e@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> C'mon,
> Where's our moderator?
> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
> sex........
> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
> What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>
> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)




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Old 02-08-2008, 06:26 PM
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robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
> C'mon,
> Where's our moderator?
> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
> sex........
> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
> What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>
> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)


Who's Google? What's a moderator?

Sigh, newbies......

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Old 02-08-2008, 07:03 PM
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Janet Wilder <kelliepoodle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
>> C'mon,
>> Where's our moderator?
>> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
>> sex........ At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially
>> banned!!!!!! What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>>
>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
>> feed up and leaving (for now!)

>
> Who's Google? What's a moderator?
>
> Sigh, newbies......


Not a newbie, a Google Grouper which is much worse.

See link in signature.



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Old 02-08-2008, 09:38 PM
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In news:Xns9A3E5992B7082xs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90. 236 XS11E
<xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Where's our moderator?

>
> Moderator? What moderator? Maybe you need to learn what a newsgoup is
> and how to use one?


He's a googlegrouper.

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:39 PM
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:57:35 -0800 (PST), robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
wrote:

>C'mon,
>Where's our moderator?
>Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
>sex........
>At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
>What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>
>Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
>feed up and leaving (for now!)


As others have said, this is an unmoderated Usenet group. this has
nothing to do with Google Groups, other than that it carries this
Usenet group, like most ISPs.

There are moderated Usenet groups, but all the ones that start with
"alt" (alternative?) are NOT moderated.



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Old 02-08-2008, 11:04 PM
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Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:Xns9A3E5992B7082xs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90. 236 XS11E
> <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Where's our moderator?

>>
>> Moderator? What moderator? Maybe you need to learn what a
>> newsgoup is and how to use one?

>
> He's a googlegrouper.


Yes, I also had this in my post, "I had to go look for your post
because, of course, I killfile all posts from Google groups. Follow
the link in my signature to see why and then go get a newsreader and
learn to use it and how to use usenet."



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Old 02-09-2008, 02:43 PM
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Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:57:35 -0800 (PST), robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>>Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this.
>>I'm feed up and leaving (for now!)

>
> How about you doing it?
>
> Otherwise quit whinning and learn how to use filters.


I think we have the winning answer! <G>

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Old 02-11-2008, 03:12 PM
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Pegleg wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:57:35 -0800 (PST), robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
>> feed up and leaving (for now!)

>
> How about you doing it?
>
> Otherwise quit whinning and learn how to use filters.
>

Personally, I think he made his post and left, so he's not getting the
benefit of our advice. As such, he doesn't realize that makes him part of
the problem, not the solution.



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Old 02-11-2008, 04:12 PM
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Pegleg wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:57:35 -0800 (PST), robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this.
>>> I'm feed up and leaving (for now!)

>>
>> How about you doing it?
>>
>> Otherwise quit whinning and learn how to use filters.
>>

> Personally, I think he made his post and left, so he's not getting
> the benefit of our advice. As such, he doesn't realize that makes
> him part of the problem, not the solution.


He's gone, he emailed me complaining that I had apparently hurt his
delicate feelings when I said he needed to learn about newsgroups.


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Old 02-11-2008, 05:42 PM
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XS11E wrote:
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Pegleg wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 05:57:35 -0800 (PST), robot10001-ann@yahoo.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this.
>>>> I'm feed up and leaving (for now!)
>>>
>>> How about you doing it?
>>>
>>> Otherwise quit whinning and learn how to use filters.
>>>

>> Personally, I think he made his post and left, so he's not getting
>> the benefit of our advice. As such, he doesn't realize that makes
>> him part of the problem, not the solution.

>
> He's gone, he emailed me complaining that I had apparently hurt his
> delicate feelings when I said he needed to learn about newsgroups.


As the undercover moderator of this usenet group, I have to suspend your
access for 24 minutes. That's the proscribed penalty for making another
google grouper cry. Be chastened.



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Old 02-11-2008, 10:24 PM
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In alt.cellular.verizon, robot10001-ann@yahoo.com wrote:

> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
> feed up and leaving (for now!)


Consider it done. Google is in total control now.


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Old 02-12-2008, 02:11 PM
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:24:43 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
wrote:

>Consider it done. Google is in total control now.


Oh yeah??? You're Mother wears army boots!!!!

A_C

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:45 PM
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Jar-Jar Binks wrote:

> I thought that John Navas is our moderator. Oooops! Maybe he only modeates
> the Cingular and ATTWS Newsgoups! :-)
>
> <robot10001-ann@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:d1f1a5eb-86c9-43ca-a101-578efec61b1e@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> C'mon,
>> Where's our moderator?
>> Moving companies, Atheist, Integrity, Apple, drinking your own pee,
>> sex........
>> At least "M'I.5'Persecution"has been partially banned!!!!!!
>> What a waste of time reviewing this site....
>>
>> Please, someone step up to the plate and tell Google about this. I'm
>> feed up and leaving (for now!)



These groups are unmoderated and he as well as the rest of us are powerless
to do much of anything except complain to the isp of the sources of off
topic and way out stuff. Google does not own any of this, they only are but
one method of accessing newsgroups and the majority of us are using the
news servers from our isp.


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